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You cannot be seriously suggesting that Judaism was lost and then rediscovered in the 13th century, thats just a hoot if there ever was one.
Knowing how blinded you are by Joooo hatred and hasbara nonsense how about a number of sources, although I'm sure you'll find something to complain about.
arab immigration
The fact of Arab Immigration during the early to mid 20 century is so well established that you really don't hear it questioned much anymore but yeah.
its a no brainer
You can plot the graph yourself if you are having trouble reading
Just be sure and use enough sources to get a fair representation. Also one cannot go with the term Immigrant as the Arabs didn't seem to comprehend the term back in the times specified or even today for that matter.
You cannot be seriously suggesting that Judaism was lost and then rediscovered in the 13th century, thats just a hoot if there ever was one.
*sigh* I'm not suggesting anything, the person credited with re-introducing Judaism into Palestine said that Judaism was all but extinct there when he arrived, in 1267, if I remember correctly. He could only find 2 Jewish families in Jerusalem, a total of 12 individuals. Now be a good boy and run along and practice your English comprehension, then read a few history books instead of Joan Peters' fantasy novel.
Knowing how blinded you are by Joooo hatred and hasbara nonsense how about a number of sources, although I'm sure you'll find something to complain about.
arab immigration
The fact of Arab Immigration during the early to mid 20 century is so well established that you really don't hear it questioned much anymore but yeah.
its a no brainer
You can plot the graph yourself if you are having trouble reading
Just be sure and use enough sources to get a fair representation. Also one cannot go with the term Immigrant as the Arabs didn't seem to comprehend the term back in the times specified or even today for that matter.
I'll take this as a, "No I can't provide a link to the data behind the graph I submitted, I Bison 1, habitually make things up."
The Arab Muslims aren't from Judea ergo they are NOT the indigenous people
Unfortunately for your "argument" the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine were a mix of ethnicities, some of whom adopted Judaism, or Christianity, or any of the many Pagan cults of the area over the centuries until ultimately they converted to Islam and adopted Arab culture.
In the 13th Century Judaism was "reinvented" in Palestine by Moses ben Nahman, a Jewish Spaniard who wrote at the time that when he arrived there were only a total of 12 Jewish "worshippers" in Jerusalem. Moses is widely credited with re-introducing Judaism into the area; building a synagogue and encouraging the establishment of yeshivas. Ironically, in his correspndence he writes how, living in Jerusalem he felt the strong pangs of his exile from Spain.
The European Jewish Zionist colonists were, on the other hand, descendants of European converts, and after 1948, more Jewish immigrants arrived Berbers from Morocco and Tunisia; Jewish Arabs from Iraq and elswhere. Religion, however, does not on its own grant indigenous status.
Most Arab-speaking people outside of Arabia have very Arabian genetic background. Just as most Spanish speaking people outside of Spain have little Spanish genetic background.
As far as immigration. The facts are clear as per the official census figures of the Mandatory as reported by the UN prior to partition in UN Resolution A 364.
"(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE
15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year. The flow has not been regular, however, being fairly high in 1924 to 1926, falling in the next few years (there was a net emigration in 1927) and rising to even higher levels between 1933 and 1936 as a result of the Nazi persecution in Europe. Between the census year of 1931 and the year 1936, the proportion of Jews to the total population rose from 18 per cent to nearly 30 per cent.
16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."
A/364 of 3 September 1947
You cannot be seriously suggesting that Judaism was lost and then rediscovered in the 13th century, thats just a hoot if there ever was one.
*sigh* I'm not suggesting anything, the person credited with re-introducing Judaism into Palestine said that Judaism was all but extinct there when he arrived, in 1267, if I remember correctly. He could only find 2 Jewish families in Jerusalem, a total of 12 individuals. Now be a good boy and run along and practice your English comprehension, then read a few history books instead of Joan Peters' fantasy novel.
Pfffft You can't be serious. So you're saying that after the countless pogroms in the area designed to wipe out the Judiac people one guy goes back and says "wow, where are all the jews" and "I don't see anyone praying at the wall"
You can't be serious.
And what does that have to do with indigenous people, that the indigenous people were run off a few times. Guess what, they survived and are now back, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Its a win for native peoples everywhere
When your response is a lie.
I'll take that as a lie.
And obviously you have no rebuttal to having been supplied with the source information.
When your response is a lie.
I'll take that as a lie.
And obviously you have no rebuttal to having been supplied with the source information.
From someone who invented a "Judaic People" who lived in a mythical, non-existant "Canaan Valley", once upon a time, who then declares there were "waves of Arab migration" and then presents a graph that demonstrates quite the opposite and is unable to provide source data for that graph but instead substitutes another graph again without supporting source data; who patheticaly tries to reinvent "Hasbara" as an Islamist concept and then accuses ME of lying, that's rich.
There's nothing I need to rebut because your own "evidence" does it for me.
When your response is a lie.
I'll take that as a lie.
And obviously you have no rebuttal to having been supplied with the source information.
From someone who invented a "Judaic People" who lived in a mythical, non-existant "Canaan Valley", once upon a time, who then declares there were "waves of Arab migration" and then presents a graph that demonstrates quite the opposite and is unable to provide source data for that graph but instead substitutes another graph again without supporting source data; who patheticaly tries to reinvent "Hasbara" as an Islamist concept and then accuses ME of lying, that's rich.
There's nothing I need to rebut because your own "evidence" does it for me.
1) Judaic=Jewish, tomaito=tamahto (both tomatoes).
2) Are you saying there was no land called Canaan in ancient times?
3) Churchill (who lived in those times) said that the Arabs have crowded into Palestine in such great numbers, so that all of World Jewry could not compete with them.
4) The word Hasbara (which simply means "public relations" in Hebrew, from the root word "explanation") has been co-opted by Arab sympathizers to mean something negative. Boston is just turning the tables on you.
When your response is a lie.
I'll take that as a lie.
And obviously you have no rebuttal to having been supplied with the source information.
From someone who invented a "Judaic People" who lived in a mythical, non-existant "Canaan Valley", once upon a time, who then declares there were "waves of Arab migration" and then presents a graph that demonstrates quite the opposite and is unable to provide source data for that graph but instead substitutes another graph again without supporting source data; who patheticaly tries to reinvent "Hasbara" as an Islamist concept and then accuses ME of lying, that's rich.
There's nothing I need to rebut because your own "evidence" does it for me.
1) Judaic=Jewish, tomaito=tamahto (both tomatoes).
2) Are you saying there was no land called Canaan in ancient times?
3) Churchill (who lived in those times) said that the Arabs have crowded into Palestine in such great numbers, so that all of World Jewry could not compete with them.
4) The word Hasbara (which simply means "public relations" in Hebrew, from the root word "explanation") has been co-opted by Arab sympathizers to mean something negative. Boston is just turning the tables on you.
1) In that it appertains to a religious cult, I can accept that, but an ethnicity? No.
2) Where was the georgraphical feature "Canaan Valley"?
3) Just because Churchill said something dosn't make it necessarily true; Churchill was a well known racist who despised "brown people" in general.
4) Hasbara is what it is, the Zionists use the term "Public Deplomacy", pro-Palestinians call it "Israeli Bullshit"
Boston1 just likes to make things up.
When your response is a lie.
I'll take that as a lie.
And obviously you have no rebuttal to having been supplied with the source information.
From someone who invented a "Judaic People" who lived in a mythical, non-existant "Canaan Valley", once upon a time, who then declares there were "waves of Arab migration" and then presents a graph that demonstrates quite the opposite and is unable to provide source data for that graph but instead substitutes another graph again without supporting source data; who patheticaly tries to reinvent "Hasbara" as an Islamist concept and then accuses ME of lying, that's rich.
There's nothing I need to rebut because your own "evidence" does it for me.
When your response is a lie.
I'll take that as a lie.
And obviously you have no rebuttal to having been supplied with the source information.
From someone who invented a "Judaic People" who lived in a mythical, non-existant "Canaan Valley", once upon a time, who then declares there were "waves of Arab migration" and then presents a graph that demonstrates quite the opposite and is unable to provide source data for that graph but instead substitutes another graph again without supporting source data; who patheticaly tries to reinvent "Hasbara" as an Islamist concept and then accuses ME of lying, that's rich.
There's nothing I need to rebut because your own "evidence" does it for me.
1) Judaic=Jewish, tomaito=tamahto (both tomatoes).
2) Are you saying there was no land called Canaan in ancient times?
3) Churchill (who lived in those times) said that the Arabs have crowded into Palestine in such great numbers, so that all of World Jewry could not compete with them.
4) The word Hasbara (which simply means "public relations" in Hebrew, from the root word "explanation") has been co-opted by Arab sympathizers to mean something negative. Boston is just turning the tables on you.
From someone who invented a "Judaic People" who lived in a mythical, non-existant "Canaan Valley", once upon a time, who then declares there were "waves of Arab migration" and then presents a graph that demonstrates quite the opposite and is unable to provide source data for that graph but instead substitutes another graph again without supporting source data; who patheticaly tries to reinvent "Hasbara" as an Islamist concept and then accuses ME of lying, that's rich.There's nothing I need to rebut because your own "evidence" does it for me.
From someone who invented a "Judaic People" who lived in a mythical, non-existant "Canaan Valley", once upon a time, who then declares there were "waves of Arab migration" and then presents a graph that demonstrates quite the opposite and is unable to provide source data for that graph but instead substitutes another graph again without supporting source data; who patheticaly tries to reinvent "Hasbara" as an Islamist concept and then accuses ME of lying, that's rich.There's nothing I need to rebut because your own "evidence" does it for me.
Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Jews (/dʒuːz/;[11] Hebrew: יְהוּדִים ISO 259-3 Yehudim, Israeli pronunciation [jehuˈdim]), also known as the Jewish People, are an ethnoreligious group[12] originating from the Israelites, or Hebrews, of the Ancient Near East.[13][14] Jewish ethnicity, nationhood and religion are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish Nation,[15][16][17] while its observance varies from strict observance to complete nonobservance.`
Jews originated as a national and religious group in the Middle East during the Second Millennium BCE,[10] in the part of the Levant known as the Land of Israel.[18]
The Merneptah Stele appears to confirm the existence of a people of Israel, associated with the god El,[19] somewhere in Canaan as far back as the 13th century BCE.[20][21] The Israelites, as an outgrowth of the Canaanite population,[22] consolidated their hold with the emergence of the Kingdom of Israel, and the Kingdom of Judah. Some consider that these Canaanite sedentary Israelites melded with incoming nomadic groups known as 'Hebrews'.[23]...
From someone who invented a "Judaic People" who lived in a mythical, non-existant "Canaan Valley", once upon a time, who then declares there were "waves of Arab migration" and then presents a graph that demonstrates quite the opposite and is unable to provide source data for that graph but instead substitutes another graph again without supporting source data; who patheticaly tries to reinvent "Hasbara" as an Islamist concept and then accuses ME of lying, that's rich.There's nothing I need to rebut because your own "evidence" does it for me.
Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Jews (/dʒuːz/;[11] Hebrew: יְהוּדִים ISO 259-3 Yehudim, Israeli pronunciation [jehuˈdim]), also known as the Jewish People, are an ethnoreligious group[12] originating from the Israelites, or Hebrews, of the Ancient Near East.[13][14] Jewish ethnicity, nationhood and religion are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish Nation,[15][16][17] while its observance varies from strict observance to complete nonobservance.`
Jews originated as a national and religious group in the Middle East during the Second Millennium BCE,[10] in the part of the Levant known as the Land of Israel.[18]
The Merneptah Stele appears to confirm the existence of a people of Israel, associated with the god El,[19] somewhere in Canaan as far back as the 13th century BCE.[20][21] The Israelites, as an outgrowth of the Canaanite population,[22] consolidated their hold with the emergence of the Kingdom of Israel, and the Kingdom of Judah. Some consider that these Canaanite sedentary Israelites melded with incoming nomadic groups known as 'Hebrews'.[23]...
"Judaic" not "Jewish" and of course, it's in Wikipedia so it HAS to be true. Go talk to Phoenall about Wikipedia....
Palestinians, Muslim and Christians are the same people that have always lived in the area. The fact that some converted to Islam does not make them Arabians. Arab is a language distinction. A Moroccan has very little in common with an Arabian genetically.
As far as Jews being a majority in Jerusalem in 1864, they weren't even a majority in 1896 after years of Jewish invasion. There are film documentaries to the effect. The Jewish propaganda is so easily debunked by fact.
