The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[JoeB131]

Looks like the Jury is thinking the same thing...

 

[depotoo]

the judge appears very passive-aggressive

 

[OODA_Loop]

An emotional resolution with a verdict of manslaughter doesn't seem there would be questions.

Questions on manslaughter would seem murder is out

 

[ScienceRocks]

So I guess it is ok to commit crimes if you're BLACK. This is what I'm talking about when I discuss the double standard.

No wonder our inner-cities are going to hell. Is there NOT one black that will speak out about how very fucking wrong this is?

 

[PredFan]

other than your debunked "coons" claim....do you have evidence that he is?

I didn't say all his calls were about blacks. And I didn't say he was racist for that reason but it was a route of inquiry. I asked if anyone would deny he was racist and no one has given any reason to show he wasn't.

When 20/20 comes out while the "coons" story broke and convinces most people that he did say it, how in hell can something like that EVER be disproven?

now backed into a corner...you madly try to spin your way out of another gross error regarding this case

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGuctYqCDvo]DIAGNOSTIC: George Zimmerman Clearly says "Fucking Coons" Before Killing Trayvon Martin - YouTube[/ame]

This is a gross error?

No, what it is is 100% bull shit.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Anderson Cooper: Did George Zimmerman use a racial slur? Why it's important - National unsolved cases | Examiner.com

Click here and listen to the tape at 1:17.

Without editing the tape, the comment in question could easily be missed as it appears Zimmerman said it under his breath. The comment lasted only 1.6 seconds.

Sierra lowered the base to make it easier to hear what Zimmerman was saying. When the tape is played again [2:12] it is much easier to hear what sounds like:

“
“F-ing coons.”

Asked why he wanted to get rid of the low end, or base of the audio, Sierra said, “To minimize the noise.” This eliminates the background noise so the voice can be heard more clearly. Sierra boosted the audio up again [2:56] making it even easier to hear what again sounds like “f-ing coons.”

Sierra agreed it’s very difficult to know for sure if that’s what Zimmerman said, however, it does sound like it. The only person who knows for sure is Zimmerman, and CNN says he’s not talking.

Why is it so important?

CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin said it’s extremely significant because the federal government is not able to prosecute your every day, typical murder. “People fighting on the street is not a federal crime,” Toobin said. “However, if one person shoots another based on racial hostility, racial animus, that does become a federal crime and if, very shortly before the murder, Zimmerman used this racial epithet to refer to the person he ultimately shot, that very much puts it within the FBI and the Justice Department’s ambit of a case that they could prosecute.”

Why would such serious commentary come from a legal analyst if it hadn't pretty much been decided at that time that he very likely at the very minimum said "coons"?

Oh I know, debunking. I'd hate to burst your bubble but debunking is not a very highly regarded art.

 

[depotoo]

question submitted to the jurors, waiting 15 minutes to see if they respond before their dinner break.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

now backed into a corner...you madly try to spin your way out of another gross error regarding this case

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGuctYqCDvo]DIAGNOSTIC: George Zimmerman Clearly says "Fucking Coons" Before Killing Trayvon Martin - YouTube[/ame]

This is a gross error?

No, what it is is 100% bull shit.

To the unbelievers.

 

[depotoo]

So I guess it is ok to commit crimes if you're BLACK. This is what I'm talking about when I discuss the double standard.

No wonder our inner-cities are going to hell. Is there NOT one black that will speak out about how very fucking wrong this is?

Qiut Matthew, please. You know you are wrong.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

question submitted to the jurors, waiting 15 minutes to see if they respond before their dinner break.

If I were them I would get dinner before submitting the verdict.

 

[deltex1]

It just took an hour to ask the jurors to clarify their request for clarification...god help GZ..

 

[depotoo]

Anderson Cooper: Did George Zimmerman use a racial slur? Why it's important - National unsolved cases | Examiner.com

Click here and listen to the tape at 1:17.

Without editing the tape, the comment in question could easily be missed as it appears Zimmerman said it under his breath. The comment lasted only 1.6 seconds.

Sierra lowered the base to make it easier to hear what Zimmerman was saying. When the tape is played again [2:12] it is much easier to hear what sounds like:

“
“F-ing coons.”

Asked why he wanted to get rid of the low end, or base of the audio, Sierra said, “To minimize the noise.” This eliminates the background noise so the voice can be heard more clearly. Sierra boosted the audio up again [2:56] making it even easier to hear what again sounds like “f-ing coons.”

Sierra agreed it’s very difficult to know for sure if that’s what Zimmerman said, however, it does sound like it. The only person who knows for sure is Zimmerman, and CNN says he’s not talking.

Why is it so important?

CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin said it’s extremely significant because the federal government is not able to prosecute your every day, typical murder. “People fighting on the street is not a federal crime,” Toobin said. “However, if one person shoots another based on racial hostility, racial animus, that does become a federal crime and if, very shortly before the murder, Zimmerman used this racial epithet to refer to the person he ultimately shot, that very much puts it within the FBI and the Justice Department’s ambit of a case that they could prosecute.”

Why would such serious commentary come from a legal analyst if it hadn't pretty much been decided at that time that he very likely at the very minimum said "coons"?

Oh I know, debunking. I'd hate to burst your bubble but debunking is not a very highly regarded art.

you know why, and here is what was said after it was properly enhanced-

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOt1wEDy0SI&feature=player_embedded]Zimmerman's 911 call: Audio enhanced again - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JoeB131]

It's looking more like they are leaning towards Manslaughter as a comprimise verdict.

 

[ScienceRocks]

It's looking more like they are leaning towards Manslaughter as a comprimise verdict.

BASED ON WHAT? How would you feel if someone started slamming your head against the ground???

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

It's looking more like they are leaning towards Manslaughter as a comprimise verdict.

BASED ON WHAT? How would you feel if someone started slamming your head against the ground???

Dazed?

 

[Jackson]

The jury is asking about manslaughter. It may not be a compromise verdict.

 

[deltex1]

Does one fucking coon offset one white ass cracker???? I need clarification...

 

[Lakhota]

Why did Zimmerman feel compelled to shot Martin in the heart. Couldn't he have just wounded him in the arm, leg, etc.?

 

[JoeB131]

It's looking more like they are leaning towards Manslaughter as a comprimise verdict.

BASED ON WHAT? How would you feel if someone started slamming your head against the ground???

Matt, not going to rehash the evidence for the 500th time, it's tiresome.

Just saying that the Jury asking for this clarification does not look good for Zimmerman.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It's looking more like they are leaning towards Manslaughter as a compromise verdict.

They are asking for clarification, that doesn't mean they have convicted him of it yet. Idiot. Also since self defense applied to Murder 2 (which they dismissed), it also applies to manslaughter. What I'm guessing is that they did indeed determine that he acted in self defense with regards to Murder 2, so if that were true, it can be possible that they are about to make the same determination with manslaughter. Hey, they could also be asking what instruction acquits him.