The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[jon_berzerk]

He also clarified that a life threatening injury is not required for reasonable fear and beyond that, one doesn't even have to be touched by the other party to have reasonable fear.

court is in recess

but from what i hear

he is back on the stand under cross

to conduct more damage on the states case

Mark isn't near done with him yet, he broke because he hasn't begun yet and needed to start it up again

Also got him to say self defense on the stand

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will omara bring up
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that serino was pressured
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from "higher ups" to bring charges
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[Ernie S.]

Well now damn! I gotta go cook a late dinner...grilling chops tonight...youre all invited!

What a fun day.

Do you ever stop to sleep?

 

[MarcATL]

never said what you claim

when you want an honest discussion, get back to me

OK, but how else could it be if not that in the case of, gunman Zimmerman vs. unarmed Trayvon?

In Florida nobody knows who has a gun - a concealed carry permit and a gun are easy to get.
So Z could not have known that T was not also carrying a gun.

You simply assume ANYBODY can have a gun in Florida and do not get in a stupid fight for nothing.
If you are reasonable

Vox are you really trying to suggest that a REASONABLE person in the state of Florida assumes that anybody and/or everybody is carrying a gun?

REALLY?!?!?

 

[testarosa]

court is in recess

but from what i hear

he is back on the stand under cross

to conduct more damage on the states case

Mark isn't near done with him yet, he broke because he hasn't begun yet and needed to start it up again

Also got him to say self defense on the stand

send

perfect
stop

will omara bring up
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that serino was pressured
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from "higher ups" to bring charges
send

Politics card played

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then the break

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HA-HA!

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[MarcATL]

"You are going to die tonight MFer!!!"

That's a line straight out of a cheesy B-movie.

That's the claptrap that Zimmerman is pushing and the radical RWers are lapping up as gospel truth.

LOL!!!!

 

[MarcATL]

Will he?

Why? Why not?

 

[Gracie]

Scharazade Ali. That is her name. Before i changed the channel, the question was asked if riots would erupt due to the verdict..if the verdict is not quilty. Mz Footstool On Her Head rolled her eyes, did the snake head dance and then said the rodney king riots were tempter tantrums but whitey calls them riots. (She didn't exactly say whitey, but it was damn close).

Everyone else on the panel..including blacks....were aghast at her attitude. SHE is what is wrong with the race problem.She and alll that think just as she does. She WANTS blacks to have a "temper tantrum". She showed that plain and simple.

 

[asaratis]

Here's what's interesting about today's Defense Witness, Chris Zerino...

He implied that a witness that sticks too much to their story may be lying.

He said that he didn't think that Zimmerman's injuries were as serious as he indicated them to be.

WoW!!!

Two things:

1
Spell the man's name correctly.

2
Don't misrepresent what he said. His statement was that a suspect that repeats his story word for word, sentence for sentence exactly the same way on multiple occasions is probably lying. The defense lawyer was pointing out the fact the Zimmerman had not done that. There are insignificant variances in Zimmerman's repeating what happened. He did not "memorize" a canned statement. Close to the end or Serino's testimony today, he said that he thought Zimmerman was telling the truth.

 

[ScienceRocks]

MarcAtl,

Why are you racist against whites? Please let your bigotry rest for a moment to consider the evidence.

 

[Vox]

OK, but how else could it be if not that in the case of, gunman Zimmerman vs. unarmed Trayvon?

In Florida nobody knows who has a gun - a concealed carry permit and a gun are easy to get.
So Z could not have known that T was not also carrying a gun.

You simply assume ANYBODY can have a gun in Florida and do not get in a stupid fight for nothing.
If you are reasonable

Vox are you really trying to suggest that a REASONABLE person in the state of Florida assumes that anybody and/or everybody is carrying a gun?

REALLY?!?!?

Of course. What is so strange with that?

p.s. are you from Chicago, New York or California ?

 

[Mr. H.]

?
I thought I heard on the news that he did just that. Today maybe?

 

[testarosa]

Scharazade Ali. That is her name. Before i changed the channel, the question was asked if riots would erupt due to the verdict..if the verdict is not quilty. Mz Footstool On Her Head rolled her eyes, did the snake head dance and then said the rodney king riots were tempter tantrums but whitey calls them riots. (She didn't exactly say whitey, but it was damn close).

Everyone else on the panel..including blacks....were aghast at her attitude. SHE is what is wrong with the race problem.She and alll that think just as she does. She WANTS blacks to have a "temper tantrum". She showed that plain and simple.

The media is riot jonesing.

 

[IrishTexanChick]

You could possibly be the funniest....most intelligent chick with red toe-nails that I've ever met!
Cheers Chica!

 

[MarcATL]

?
I thought I heard on the news that he did just that. Today maybe?

You heard tape from when he was initially in custody.

 

[pioneerpete]

Here's what's interesting about today's Defense Witness, Chris Zerino...

He implied that a witness that sticks too much to their story may be lying.

He said that he didn't think that Zimmerman's injuries were as serious as he indicated them to be.

WoW!!!

Few things. There doesn't have to be any injuries for there to be a legal claim of self defense. Walking or running or even following are not felonies in Florida, so unless you have evidence that GZ threw the first punch, TM can not be legally justified in defending himself. To the point that the aggressor can still claim self defense 2a or 2b:

Florida Statutes (Fla. Stat.)

Title XLVI. Crimes.

Chapter 776: JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE

776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—

The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or

(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or

(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.

Got to take the good with the bad bro.

Marc please respond.

 

[Gracie]

He would be stupid if he does. However, I would love to hear what he has to say and HOW he says it.

 

[Ernie S.]

The last O’Mara question of the day, the last words the jury heard to take with them into the evening recess, could only be characterized as catastrophic for the State’s theory of the case. Looking directly at the man who had been the chief investigator on the case, who had possessed access to ever bit of evidence of any sort, who had interviewed, and re-interviewed, and re-re-interviewed–applying increasing from each interview to the next–O’Mara asked him:

“Do YOU think George Zimmerman was telling you the truth?”

Serino succinct answer: “Yes.”

Zimmerman Trial | Live video | Prosecution Witnesses

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I'm thinking Bernie should take down the big top and steal away covered by darkness.

I'm thinking there's a plea bargain going on in the background. So far, the prosecution has offered the Miami Dolphins, but Zim's lawyers are demanding 20 years for Corey.

 

[testarosa]

You could possibly be the funniest....most intelligent chick with red toe-nails that I've ever met!
Cheers Chica!

I get that all the time.

LOL

Fn cheers babycakes!

 

[MarcATL]

Here's what's interesting about today's Defense Witness, Chris Zerino...

He implied that a witness that sticks too much to their story may be lying.

He said that he didn't think that Zimmerman's injuries were as serious as he indicated them to be.

WoW!!!

Two things:

1
Spell the man's name correctly.

2
Don't misrepresent what he said. His statement was that a perp that repeats his story word for word, sentence for sentence exactly the same way on multiple occasions is probably lying. The defense lawyer was pointing out the fact the Zimmerman had not done that. There are insignificant variances in Zimmerman's repeating what happened. He did not "memorize" a canned statement. Close to the end or Serino's testimony, he said that he thought Zimmerman was telling the truth.

How is what you stated in 2, any different than what I stated?

Here's what I stated...

He implied that a witness that sticks too much to their story may be lying.

Please don't try to read into what I'm saying, just take it as face value. I'm saying the same thing.

 

[Yurt]

So according to Yurt, in the great state of Florida, you get to walk around with a concealed weapon, follow innocent people around, confront them, provoke them and get into fights with them, then get to kill them too.

WoW!!!

If that's the case, then it's really FloriDUH!!

never said what you claim

when you want an honest discussion, get back to me

OK, but how else could it be if not that in the case of, gunman Zimmerman vs. unarmed Trayvon?

there are a few scenarios and you are hearing about them from the prosecution's witnesses. zimmerman started it, martin got the best of him and in the heat of the fight he went too far and zimmerman reasonably feared for his life.....zimmerman didn't start it....etc