The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[Gadawg73]

Zimmerman's injuries under the law have little to no bearing in this case.
Fearing for his life is the burden of self defense.
And direct evidence NOT CIRCUMSTANTIAL which is all you folks are offering here HAS MARTIN ON TOP OF ZIMMERMAN.
If that is not reasonable doubt ON THE MURDER CHARGE then nothing is.
I would entertain still any and all arguments on manslaughter.
The unbiased, objective open minded responsible citizen that I am.
Very sad the Martin family was conned into believing this was a murder case.
I feel for them, they did nothing wrong and have to watch this pitiful case the prosecution brought.
And see that their son was involved in the fight which they were led to believe was not the case. They were conned into believing Zimmerman ran Martin down and gunned him down without a fight.
And Crump pockets 400K as a result of that con to date.

 

[testarosa]

Nope. Tude DD proved that cracka

 

[thanatos144]

You just need to be more quiet going forward.

Hahahaha!!! That was funny.

And I do like a good joke. You get a thank you from me.

You think this is funny? You've tried and convicted a man based on your opinions. How dare you think this is a joke? How dare you insert your prevaricated and biased opinions into objective discussions? You are sickening.

>:|

He has him tried and convicted because of the color of his skin.

Welcome to my nightmare

 

[Snookie]

Look...this case is falling apart because there is no case.

Mistakes were made, blah blah blah. Hate to say it that way. Honest to goodness, this is not a crime. Neither GZ or TM went out that night with bodily harm on their minds but a death happened. Martin was a testosterone-pumped wanna be thug who didn't go home when he had the chance. He scuffled with Zimmerman who had a gun. It ended with Martin dead and Zimmerman on the hot seat. This is tragic however you look at it. It was a crossing of paths that ended horribly. It was not a case of murder or even of negligent homicide, it was a clear case of self defense. Flapping of gums is useless. It will never be more than it is. How much more evidence does the public and we here on this forum need to see and hear??? Let's call it what it is. Be done with it and mourn both the poor decisions of TM, and of the attorney's office that chose to prosecute this unwinnable case. GZ and his family are also traumatized, as well as the Martin family. Let it rest.

Yeah, let's forget about it. Nobody's perfect.

Let's go have some milk and cookies.

 

[SantaFeWay]

Look...this case is falling apart because there is no case.

Mistakes were made, blah blah blah. Hate to say it that way. Honest to goodness, this is not a crime. Neither GZ or TM went out that night with bodily harm on their minds but a death happened. Martin was a testosterone-pumped wanna be thug who didn't go home when he had the chance. He scuffled with Zimmerman who had a gun. It ended with Martin dead and Zimmerman on the hot seat. This is tragic however you look at it. It was a crossing of paths that ended horribly. It was not a case of murder or even of negligent homicide, it was a clear case of self defense. Flapping of gums is useless. It will never be more than it is. How much more evidence does the public and we here on this forum need to see and hear??? Let's call it what it is. Be done with it and mourn both the poor decisions of TM, and of the attorney's office that chose to prosecute this unwinnable case. GZ and his family are also traumatized, as well as the Martin family. Let it rest.

Yeah, let's forget about it. Nobody's perfect.

Let's go have some milk and cookies.

Keep it up Snooks and I'll have YOU for breakfast.

 

[Ernie S.]

Mark is going to be busy for awhile. Smacking the Bernster and then its CNN NBC and ABCs turn.

This thread can keep us entertained for the next year.

Wait until DeeDee is released, and can talk to the press.

THAT can keep us entertained for the next year.

Just her spitting out her aliases so we can understand would take a few days.

 

[25Caliber]

Why would he feel threatened by someone who couldn't find what he was looking for? I think I'd laugh and walk away and let the guy continue to flail away at himself.

OH lord...ernie...work with me here!!! Thats the point....he didnt allow him to find whatever it was he was looking for...remember this happening very quickly.

Then he committed an unprovoked assault. Simple as that.

Or not as simple as that and Trayvon prevented scenario #1 from happening . Im certainly not going to stand there and wait for him to get whatever he is frantically reaching for. I cant turn tail and run. So the creep following me in the dark gets clocked...sorry thats the real world.

 

[Mertex]

Zimmerman had already drawn a conclusion about the kid as of the first non emergency call.

He kept calling Travon the suspect for one thing. He said he was walking casually in the drizzle as if that somehow made Travon guilty. He stalked Travon, we only have his account of how Travon moved, looked, what he supposedly said, that he may have been looking in houses, etc.. He is sticking to his story but the profiling is apparent especially in this reading of the statement.

So what you're saying is that the young man that was in Sanford because he'd been suspended from school for stealing was unfairly profiled because George Zimmerman thought he was acting suspiciously?

Gee, Sarah...could it be that George Zimmerman might have been correct in his observations about Trayvon Martin that night?

What exactly was suspicious about Martin? That he was walking in the rain with his hoodie up?

That the young man who had a history of theft was in fact checking out the neighborhood?

That a person who has a history for hostile behavior was in fact following someone he "imagined" didn't belong there?

I know that doesn't fit the "fairy tale" that's been written by the main stream media to portray "poor little Trayvon" but the closer you look at who this kid REALLY was, who he hung out with and how he conducted his life then it's not unreasonable to think that the person who only in Sanford BECAUSE he was a thief may have been up to his same old tricks again.

The more that comes out about Zimmerman the more we find out why his lawyer doesn't want him to take the stand. All the discrepancies in his different versions of what happened would suddenly make him appear like the "liar" that he is?

Martin came out of the bushes - there were no bushes.
GZ claims he was scared - he took Karate classes and was armed, and was scared?
Told not to follow him, and saying "OK" - and then doing the opposite.
Claiming he was told to give an address - but no record of 911 Oper asking him to provide an address.
Lived there for several years, reported other suspicious activity, and didn't know the street names in the area (and there are only three streets in the subdivision)!

Geez, we're finding out these discrepancies anyway, so it really doesn't matter if he testifies, we're aware of the discrepancies in his story.

 

[Ernie S.]

I'm thinking "Diamond Eugene" is her "stripper name".

 

[testarosa]

That's right. Y'all haven't met Santy, she's been kind of quiet. Up til now. Lol

 

[Rat in the Hat]

I'm thinking "Diamond Eugene" is her "stripper name".

 

[Ernie S.]

OH lord...ernie...work with me here!!! Thats the point....he didnt allow him to find whatever it was he was looking for...remember this happening very quickly.

Then he committed an unprovoked assault. Simple as that.

Or not as simple as that and Trayvon prevented scenario #1 from happening

Logically, Martin had no idea Zimmerman was armed. Unprovoked attack.

Moot point actually. Seeing Zimmerman is the only witness to that event, the court has to accept it as fact or disprove it.

Or maybe Dee Dee can suddenly make up... sorry, remember details of her conversation with Trayvon up to the gunshot.

 

[Sarah G]

Zimmerman's injuries under the law have little to no bearing in this case.
Fearing for his life is the burden of self defense.
And direct evidence NOT CIRCUMSTANTIAL which is all you folks are offering here HAS MARTIN ON TOP OF ZIMMERMAN.
If that is not reasonable doubt ON THE MURDER CHARGE then nothing is.
I would entertain still any and all arguments on manslaughter.
The unbiased, objective open minded responsible citizen that I am.
Very sad the Martin family was conned into believing this was a murder case.
I feel for them, they did nothing wrong and have to watch this pitiful case the prosecution brought.
And see that their son was involved in the fight which they were led to believe was not the case. They were conned into believing Zimmerman ran Martin down and gunned him down without a fight.
And Crump pockets 400K as a result of that con to date.

Only one witness said that Zimmerman was on top. The rest said the one on top got up, the other was dead on the ground. The jury heard this and that is what is important, not what people here are making up.

There is also a dna report that does NOT support Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon Martin caused his injuries The jury also has this stuff:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/7449095-post26.html

 

[Snookie]

Then he committed an unprovoked assault. Simple as that.

Or not as simple as that and Trayvon prevented scenario #1 from happening

Logically, Martin had no idea Zimmerman was armed. Unprovoked attack.

Moot point actually. Seeing Zimmerman is the only witness to that event, the court has to accept it as fact or disprove it.

Or maybe Dee Dee can suddenly make up... sorry, remember details of her conversation with Trayvon up to the gunshot.

Jimmie Hoffa would agree to that.-

 

[Amelia]

OK, but how else could it be if not that in the case of, gunman Zimmerman vs. unarmed Trayvon?

there are a few scenarios and you are hearing about them from the prosecution's witnesses. zimmerman started it, martin got the best of him and in the heat of the fight he went too far and zimmerman reasonably feared for his life.....zimmerman didn't start it....etc

Let's stop right there...

That being the case, wasn't Trayvon defending himself in fear of HIS life? Which ultimately got taken as we all know. So it turns out he had the right fear and was justified in fighting to the death.

Do you agree?

Bull. Martin was younger, faster, stronger. He was near the place he was visiting. He could have gotten away. His life was taken because he and his teenage brain went crazy and did something reckless. All the evidence shown so far points to Zimmerman doing as advised, ending his pursuit and walking back toward his vehicle. Then getting his head bashed by Martin. Then allegedly, Martin saw Zimmerman's gun and that's when things got even more serious than just Zimmerman's head being slammed into concrete, which was bad enough.

 

[Gracie]

When did she say this? I missed it. Did I miss her presser????

Dr Drew show. I got so pissed, I changed the channel but then switched back...and Mz Footstool head is not there. They replaced her. Gosh. I wonder why.

I'm late to the party. I envisioned Ms Footstool as Rachel/DD/Diamond, which is why I asked about her having a presser. Who then? All I know is...it's obvious if the natives are restless then they see the writing on the wall that this case is going nowhere.

i am not a racist. I am a businesswoman who interacts with people of all races and ethnicities. I hate needing to provide this disclaimer. It's degrading in itself, but the BS PC community expects it so I'll comply.

I haven't heard what happened or that someone was calling for "unrest" if the verdict doesn't comport with the guilty verdict blacks seem to want in this case. When did this happen and who predicted this "tantrum"???

[MENTION=43884]SantaFeWay[/MENTION].....Dr Drew show is on HLN..and his guests are commentators. Mz Ali, aka Footstool Head (african hat) was saying riots are what whites call their temper tantrum...and there probably won't be "temper tantrums" because Z will walk (insert snake head 'tude here). The threats of violence of killing white crackers were posted on a website called The Blaze..which is a newspaper but I do not know where.

Sometime between my channel flipping, they got Mz Footstool off the show. Probably because even the blacks AGAINST zimmerman was aghast at what Footstool said. She showed what she wanted very clearly..hence them hastily retreating her from in front of the camera, I suppose.

 

[Gadawg73]

Zimmerman's injuries under the law have little to no bearing in this case.
Fearing for his life is the burden of self defense.
And direct evidence NOT CIRCUMSTANTIAL which is all you folks are offering here HAS MARTIN ON TOP OF ZIMMERMAN.
If that is not reasonable doubt ON THE MURDER CHARGE then nothing is.
I would entertain still any and all arguments on manslaughter.
The unbiased, objective open minded responsible citizen that I am.
Very sad the Martin family was conned into believing this was a murder case.
I feel for them, they did nothing wrong and have to watch this pitiful case the prosecution brought.
And see that their son was involved in the fight which they were led to believe was not the case. They were conned into believing Zimmerman ran Martin down and gunned him down without a fight.
And Crump pockets 400K as a result of that con to date.

Only one witness said that Zimmerman was on top. The rest said the one on top got up, the other was dead on the ground. The jury heard this and that is what is important, not what people here are making up.

There is also a dna report that does NOT support Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon Martin caused his injuries The jury also has this stuff:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/7449095-post26.html

HAHAHAHA
No, you are so far off base it is pathetic. Are you really this ignorant?
The DNA evidence has already been introduced and ALL it says that may help the prosecution is that they found no DNA on the gun.
And since it was raining the forensic examiner stated that was common to have rain wash off DNA from the gun.
There has been no "the rest" of the witnesses to testify what you claim.
Go away and look at the videos of the trial. You know nothing of anything factual in this case.

 

[25Caliber]

Then he committed an unprovoked assault. Simple as that.

Or not as simple as that and Trayvon prevented scenario #1 from happening

Logically, Martin had no idea Zimmerman was armed. Unprovoked attack.

Moot point actually. Seeing Zimmerman is the only witness to that event, the court has to accept it as fact or disprove it.

Or maybe Dee Dee can suddenly make up... sorry, remember details of her conversation with Trayvon up to the gunshot.

He may not have seen the gun...but when he goes reaching like that a logical person can think he may have that or another weapon.

And whats a logical person to do when the stranger following him in the dark and rain goes frantically reaching for something...wait to see what it is?...lol.

And I dont have to prove that...all I have to do is suggest it and let the jury decide. They dont have to make up their mind with what has undoubtedly be proven. It needs to be logical and reasonable. And to me that is a logical and reasonable response for someone being followed in the dark. Ill bet i could get at least half the jury to agree and prevent an acquittal.

 

[pioneerpete]

Every witness that said they saw GZ on top said that they saw him after the gunshot. This goes along with GZ's statement. Check transcripts if you don't believe.

 

[Avatar4321]

There's also evidence that Zimmerman FOLLOWED Trayvon for no reason other than in his demented mind. AFTER being told that he didn't have to do that.

So it's six of one, and half-a-dozen of the other.

Alright, Let's assume that Zimmer followed Trayvon for no reason. So what? How does that invalidate the self defense defense? There is still no evidence that Zimmerman attacked Trayvon first and plenty of evidence to the opposite.

The Prosecution has the burden to prove their case. They wont be able to because the evidence we have indicates self defense. And all there has to be is a reasonable doubt.