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He ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved. He did not return to his home.
Correct, so for some people to think that he should have covered that distance in such a little time doesn't seem plausible. He had every right to " ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved" , he didn't commit any crime in doing that. zimmerman tried to play "cop" and in doing so, he is responsible for Martin's death, in my opinion.
a) That is untrue.
b) That is irrelevant.
At the time he shot him, Zimmerman was in fear for his life. It was a justified shooting.
How long does it take you to walk 100 yards? Did he cover those 100 yards in a straight line?
He ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved. He did not return to his home.
Correct, so for some people to think that he should have covered that distance in such a little time doesn't seem plausible. He had every right to " ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved" , he didn't commit any crime in doing that. zimmerman tried to play "cop" and in doing so, he is responsible for Martin's death, in my opinion.
Where is the evidence that GZ started confrontation? EVIDENCE! Not name calling and emotions. EVIDENCE! Not what you would have done. EVIDENCE!
Excuse me? What part of following someone in the dark with a loaded gun did you miss?
What part of the recorded audio of "...these fucking punks...these assholes always get away..." did you miss?
Charles Manson was convicted for life on far less circumstantial evidence than this.
Is walking in the dark with a loaded gun with a permit a crime in Florida?
Interesting how you're bringing up the claim of someone who is NOT on trial.I'm not sure you're suggesting that I'm making baseless assumptions or not, but I'll repeat again, the testimonies given today and yesterday show Zimmerman to have lied about the extent of his injuries.
It's in his interest to portray himself as having a reasonable threat to his life, and not just embarrassed that he was losing a fist-fight to a 17 year old kid.
He has all the reason in the world to lie.
He had the balls to give testimony to Sean Hannity, he should have the balls to give testimony on trial and defend himself.
Tracy Martin said it was not his son screaming. Then he changed his mind. That is apparently proof of being a liar. He went on Anderson Cooper and other shows. He should have the balls to explain his change in story.
How about using the words from the person who IS on trial?
Zimmerman: Screaming In 911 Call ?Doesn?t Even Sound Like Me? [Audio] | Axiom Amnesia
Correct, so for some people to think that he should have covered that distance in such a little time doesn't seem plausible. He had every right to " ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved" , he didn't commit any crime in doing that. zimmerman tried to play "cop" and in doing so, he is responsible for Martin's death, in my opinion.
a) That is untrue.
b) That is irrelevant.
At the time he shot him, Zimmerman was in fear for his life. It was a justified shooting.
That is certainly something he has claimed after the fact to cover his sorry ass, now isn't it?
Guy with the gun who just happens to be alive is the one to be believed, right? People brandishing bags of candy are the losers.
Where is the evidence that GZ started confrontation? EVIDENCE! Not name calling and emotions. EVIDENCE! Not what you would have done. EVIDENCE!
Excuse me? What part of following someone in the dark with a loaded gun did you miss?
What part of the recorded audio of "...these fucking punks...these assholes always get away..." did you miss?
Charles Manson was convicted for life on far less circumstantial evidence than this.
Is walking in the dark with a loaded gun with a permit a crime in Florida?
What probably happened.
Zimmerman saw another "****** punk" who always gets away walking with arrogance (in his mind) down the street in a "white" neighborhood.
So he started following the kid imagining every thing his psychologist was afraid he would imagine. Then, when the kid ran off, to Zimmerman, that was "proof" and got out of his car to chase down the imagined perpetrator.
At this point, Trayvon is walking home with his Skittles and Ice Tea with a bounce in his step knowing he would be watching the "game" he had been waiting for. Then he notices a big ugly older white (to him) guy following him. He wonders if it's a perv or a policeman. Since the guy doesn't call out or yell stop, he thinks it's a perv so he takes off running.
Thinking he's safe, he begins talking with his "friend" girl telling her about the perv who was following him when he hears Zimmerman saying something like, "Where do you think you're going ******?" So Trayvon tells him, "Stay away from me" and starts to walk off. At this point, Zimmerman pulls out his gun and takes off the safety. He grabs Trayvon and says, "You punks always get away. Well not this time". Because he was so close, Trayvon grabs the gun and jumps on Zimmerman and they both go down with Trayvon screaming for help.
They fall back and Zimmerman hits his head on the sidewalk with the uneven surface which is why he has only a couple of slight scrapes. That's when Zimmerman shoots the kid who falls forward and his forehead hits Zimmerman in the mouth. Trayvon doesn't show bruising because he is already dead. Zimmerman pushes Trayvon off to the side which is why they found Trayvon face down with his hands under his chest.
Zimmerman was able to shoot so quickly because he had already disengaged the safety. He wasn't letting "this one" get away. Too many others already had.
By the time the police showed up, Zimmerman was walking around the body like a game hunter proud of what he bagged. He didn't feel remorse, but he didn't want to boast either. After leaving the police station, he went out and celebrated.
I suspect that was pretty close to what actually happened.
Right wingers are hoping this incident gives them license to hunt down any black man or child they want and have no fear of repercussion. They feel they are teaching "uppity" blacks to not get above their station. In their minds, they are actually hurting Obama somehow.
On a Scale from 10 (very intelligent) down to 0 (imbecilic to the point of tragedy), rderp's above quoted post rates his usual -5.
He's so uninterested in truth, his post are painfully stupid.
Excuse me? What part of following someone in the dark with a loaded gun did you miss?
What part of the recorded audio of "...these fucking punks...these assholes always get away..." did you miss?
Charles Manson was convicted for life on far less circumstantial evidence than this.
Is walking in the dark with a loaded gun with a permit a crime in Florida?
No. But that's not what we're talking about, now is it?
His HOA meeting in January 2012 explicitly told his Neighborhood Watch committee they were to watch and report, not confront. He was told not to follow and he did anyway.
Excuse me? What part of following someone in the dark with a loaded gun did you miss?
What part of the recorded audio of "...these fucking punks...these assholes always get away..." did you miss?
Charles Manson was convicted for life on far less circumstantial evidence than this.
Is walking in the dark with a loaded gun with a permit a crime in Florida?
No. It's our way of life.
I carry a loaded gun every day.
That's actually typical of the entire Republican party. This is why they were thrilled voting rights are being rolled back. And this is why they want Zimmerman to walk. It signals that they can go out and shoot any black man or child walking down the street and then plead that black person was suspicious which gives them cause to be afraid for their life.
Bless your black heart
I'm not a Republican. I don't believe in "let him die" and I certainly don't kneel at the altar of the Church of the Heartless Bastard. And for sure, I would never, ever, chase down a teen ager and shoot him because I could.
That's speculation, I'm not spinning anything. What would you do if some asshole was following you in his truck and then got out of his truck and confronted you? Would you lay on your stomach, bow, run, or defend yourself?He ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved. He did not return to his home.
Correct, so for some people to think that he should have covered that distance in such a little time doesn't seem plausible. He had every right to " ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved" , he didn't commit any crime in doing that. zimmerman tried to play "cop" and in doing so, he is responsible for Martin's death, in my opinion.
The point that he never returned home can also indicate he was lying in wait to ambush Zimmerman after he broke off his pursuit. You really should stop spinning this. He had no right to attack Zimmerman, Phoenix. He had no right to beat his face in and beat his head into the ground. He had no right to threaten him.
Excuse me? What part of following someone in the dark with a loaded gun did you miss?
What part of the recorded audio of "...these fucking punks...these assholes always get away..." did you miss?
Charles Manson was convicted for life on far less circumstantial evidence than this.
Is walking in the dark with a loaded gun with a permit a crime in Florida?
No. But that's not what we're talking about, now is it?
His HOA meeting in January 2012 explicitly told his Neighborhood Watch committee they were to watch and report, not confront. He was told not to follow and he did anyway.
He ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved. He did not return to his home.
Correct, so for some people to think that he should have covered that distance in such a little time doesn't seem plausible. He had every right to " ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved" , he didn't commit any crime in doing that. zimmerman tried to play "cop" and in doing so, he is responsible for Martin's death, in my opinion.
How does playing cop make him responsible ?
That's speculation, I'm not spinning anything. What would you do if some asshole was following you in his truck and then got out of his truck and confronted you? Would you lay on your stomach, bow, run, or defend yourself?
a) That is untrue.
b) That is irrelevant.
At the time he shot him, Zimmerman was in fear for his life. It was a justified shooting.
That is certainly something he has claimed after the fact to cover his sorry ass, now isn't it?
Guy with the gun who just happens to be alive is the one to be believed, right? People brandishing bags of candy are the losers.
People who continue to make unsubstantiated claims despite evidence are the losers. Guess what, you are being a sore loser.
Excuse me? What part of following someone in the dark with a loaded gun did you miss?
What part of the recorded audio of "...these fucking punks...these assholes always get away..." did you miss?
Charles Manson was convicted for life on far less circumstantial evidence than this.
Is walking in the dark with a loaded gun with a permit a crime in Florida?
No. But that's not what we're talking about, now is it?
His HOA meeting in January 2012 explicitly told his Neighborhood Watch committee they were to watch and report, not confront. He was told not to follow and he did anyway.
Correct, so for some people to think that he should have covered that distance in such a little time doesn't seem plausible. He had every right to " ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved" , he didn't commit any crime in doing that. zimmerman tried to play "cop" and in doing so, he is responsible for Martin's death, in my opinion.
How does playing cop make him responsible ?
Because he got out of his truck to confront Martin.
Correct, so for some people to think that he should have covered that distance in such a little time doesn't seem plausible. He had every right to " ducked and dodged, shucked and weaved" , he didn't commit any crime in doing that. zimmerman tried to play "cop" and in doing so, he is responsible for Martin's death, in my opinion.
How does playing cop make him responsible ?
Because he got out of his truck to confront Martin.
