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And again, Mr./Mrs. BDS , you have exposed to everyone who you actually are and what you are here to do.Reading something and the facts are totally different things.This thread was created in order to attempt to fix the significant derailment of another thread without having to delete posts.
The topic of this thread is one that comes up with regularity in IP, and is also a frequent derailer of active threads so it will now have a thread of it's own which will be pinned as a "stickie".
I apologize ahead of time for the bumpy discontinuous beginnig of this, but I think it will smooth out as discussion goes on.
The topic is: The history involving the creation of Israel, the British Mandate, and the applicable actions of the UN in that history.
I admit that I, too, drank the "Kool Aid", concerning Israel's supposed fight for survival in 1948, until very recently. While reading Charles Townshend's book, Terrorism: A Very Short Introduction (not really an introduction, but simply the name of that series of publications by Oxford University Press), I encountered the perspective that claims it's a myth that Arab nations attacked Israel, when the U.N. recognized its independence in 1948. This argument calls that narrative the "Israel Founding Myth." The argument goes farther: it posits the opposite it true. Israel attacked Palestinian communities within its borders, ethnically cleansing them from the land, in the creation of the new state. What an eye-opener.......
Good to see that your knowledge of what happened at the time went from Zilch to Zero.
Your post is very much an "eye opener" about you, whether you are simply a Jew hater, BDS flag holder, or anything which is close to any of it.
These whole paragraph has been used before, or most of it.....and without any evidence to show for it.
Whether you are actually a new poster, or an old one trying to pull the wool over people's eyes on these threads.......
Welcome
I'm just relating what I read. I always believed the opposite. Just another insight.... I'm sure it isn't the whole truth. I tend to favor Israel in its age-old struggle against the Arabs, even though I'm not a Neo-Conservative. My distrust of Islam is rather profound.
Should I believe that the US Southern Confederates won the civil war in 1865, if I just happened to read that in a book by someone?
You are using Exactly the same formula used by every BDS member.
"I used to believe Israel was such and such, but NOW......."
"I distrust Islam"
"I am not a Neo-conservative"
Go and do some actual reading and do not come back until you do.
Your first post is beyond clear as to who you are and what you came here to do:
I admit that I, too, drank the "Kool Aid", concerning Israel's supposed fight for survival in 1948, until very recently. While reading Charles Townshend's book, Terrorism: A Very Short Introduction (not really an introduction, but simply the name of that series of publications by Oxford University Press), I encountered the perspective that claims it's a myth that Arab nations attacked Israel, when the U.N. recognized its independence in 1948. This argument calls that narrative the "Israel Founding Myth."
Go and have some real drinks for a change.
While I appreciate your thoughtful response, I hardly have to remind you that yours is not the last word on this emotionally charged, highly political and controversial issue. When you consider the ruthlessness of Israeli terrorism, directed against the British, leading up to 1948, it should be obvious that the Israelis were certainly capable of mass murder. Yes, I believe there was considerable ethnic-cleansing, along with Arab attacks. Israelis were willing to do whatever it took to consolidate territory and secure their independence. That's understandable. Nonetheless, they must grasp the depth of Palestinian resentment. Moreover, the U.S. should stop underwriting their misadventures, especially settlement-expansions.
Namaste