the only remaining argument against capatalism

[Dad2three]

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would the right wingers EVER have Bubba?


Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percentof the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.


Contrary to Entitlement Society Rhetoric Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly Disabled or Working Households Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Still doesn't entitle someone to another person's money. If you feel they need, write a check to them personally. You won't because you'd rather see someone else forced to do it so you can take credit for having done nothing.

You're the kind that believes professional wrestling is real but the moon landing was faked.

AGAIN, we tried your nonsense before PROGRESSIVE POLICIES built the worlds largest middle class, it looked a lot like Indonesia (or other 3rd world nations), your new fluff buddies paradise!!!


When are you going to grow a brain Bubba? ONE state/nation to EVER use your libertarian BS EVER? lol

We've tried the bleeding heart policies for well over 50 years and still have the same percentage in poverty.

Hard to do the right thing when enough of you piss ant bleeding hearts that rely on my hard work think someone owes you something.

The progressive mindset is only part of what's your is yours and the rest of your is mine.

Yep, and Medicare is on the way out, right Bubba? lol

Too many leeches willing to vote in politicians willing to pander to people like you with someone else's money. How sad it must be to know that you, a dad to three based on your name, can't support his own kids.

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Hint 3 GROWN kids (owning 3 houses) with 5 grand-kids. Next fallacy Bubba? lol

 

[Conservative65]

Still won't answer the question, Corky?

Society works for people who work it.

You just don't want to work it do you?

You have failed to address the question

We are not talking about one person being able to work harder and earn more. We are talking about 100 million workers who need to earn more

Show me the economic data showing there are 100 million better paying jobs out there

Better paying than what?

And why does making more money necessarily mean having someone else provide a job for you?

There are countless ways to make extra money that do not involve working for someone else you know.

Reagan is dead and I never said anything about him

Ronnie was just another big government dupe pretending to be a small government guy

Try thinking out of your 2 dimensional pigeonhole once in a while.

ONE nation to EVER use your libertarian BS successfully? EVER? lol

Actually, the U.S. until freeloaders like you came along did just fine with it.

Progressive Economics: Thinking that by giving poor people someone else's money they'll be motivated to do better themselves.

 

[Conservative65]

Still doesn't entitle someone to another person's money. If you feel they need, write a check to them personally. You won't because you'd rather see someone else forced to do it so you can take credit for having done nothing.

You're the kind that believes professional wrestling is real but the moon landing was faked.

AGAIN, we tried your nonsense before PROGRESSIVE POLICIES built the worlds largest middle class, it looked a lot like Indonesia (or other 3rd world nations), your new fluff buddies paradise!!!


When are you going to grow a brain Bubba? ONE state/nation to EVER use your libertarian BS EVER? lol

We've tried the bleeding heart policies for well over 50 years and still have the same percentage in poverty.

Hard to do the right thing when enough of you piss ant bleeding hearts that rely on my hard work think someone owes you something.

The progressive mindset is only part of what's your is yours and the rest of your is mine.

Yep, and Medicare is on the way out, right Bubba? lol

Too many leeches willing to vote in politicians willing to pander to people like you with someone else's money. How sad it must be to know that you, a dad to three based on your name, can't support his own kids.

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Hint 3 GROWN kids (owning 3 houses) with 5 grand-kids. Next fallacy Bubba? lol

Without freeloading leeches, we'd have more of our own money.

 

[Conservative65]

So you think you need the government's help to increase your income?

THAT is your problem not some rich guy you never met or never will.

How can the government increase my income?

I paid out over $12,000 in medical expenses last year. You don't see many people in other industrialized countries having to do that

They can provide lower cost educational expenses like other countries do

They can require working Americansto pay lower percentage of their income for government services and return rates for those making over $1 million a year to pay 50%

They can stop billionaires from paying a lower effective tax rate than I do

You all think taking more money from some rich guy will make your life easier.

It won't.

Only you can improve your situation but none of you want to you just want to piss and moan

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Without people like me, who would support your fucking kids?

Poor baby, does the whiner pay taxes and resent the fact that his money helps others? Well, why don't you simply read that bible of yours, you can cherry pick passages that make you feel avarice is a virtue and I can find some that make what you covet a deadly sin:

No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money. (NIV, Matthew 6:24)

I've read it and what you claim it says isn't there when it comes to Jesus using the government to mandate charity.

Desiring to help people as I see the need not where you determine it for me doesn't go against that verse.

 

[Dad2three]

Yeah, we spent trillions on war, does war still exist Bubba? lol

The War on Poverty’s surprising success

But the official poverty numbers mask a substantial reduction in poverty attributable to government efforts, and although the OEO proved a short-lived failure, other poverty programs implemented under Johnson–Medicare, Medicaid, and, yes, food stamps–achieved measurable success.

Even judging by the official poverty rate (currently $23,550 for a family of four), Johnson’s anti-poverty programs enjoyed initial success. The poverty rate for African-Americans dropped precipitously for the remainder of Johnson’s term. It evened off for the next 25 years, then dropped again under President Bill Clinton before rising slightly during the past decade. The poverty rate for the elderly dropped dramatically under Johnson and Nixon and, less dramatically, continues to do so.

Overall, the official poverty rate declined significantly through Nixon’s first term before leveling off; since the 2008 crash it’s been rising.

None of these calculations include in-kind benefits through Medicare, Medicaid, and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, and none include the Earned Income Tax Credit, a program targeted to the working poor that was implemented under President Gerald Ford and greatly expanded under Reagan and Clinton. When these are factored in, the poverty rate has dropped nearly in half.

The War on Poverty s surprising success MSNBC


OOPS, RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS LOSE AGAIN!!!

When then poverty rate today is the same percentage as it was before the war on poverty, the only losers are those of us forced to fund those programs. What else would MSNBC say? The percentages don't lie but partisan Liberal hacks on MSNBC do. I guess as long as social welfare is around you'll be able to think you actually earned the money you get from it.

Got it, reality isn't accepted in your world. Shocking

Why don't you support your own damn three kids instead of expecting someone else to do it for you.

LOL, That's the best you have Bubba? Seriously? What your mind never got past the Simpson's? lol

Since you don't support your own, sounds like you don't have anything at all to offer. Guess showing you can't even be a baby daddy to your kids hurts your feelings.

I get it Bubba, ASSUMPTIONS based on bull sh*t, the right wings usual mode. Shocking

Hint I own my own home and have rental property (got lucky after a divorce and couldn't afford to buy where I was living so started with a duplex in a poor area).


BUT, without false premises, distortions and lies, what would you wingnutters EVER have right?

 

[Dad2three]

Methinks you are confused, the word used to describe the above arch conservatives is Dystopian. Why do I call them arch conservatives, here's why: An arch conservative is extremely averse to change, thus they rule by my way or the gas chamber.

I'll not get into semantics with you. You can call them from the left or the right. They are still statists. They had to use the force of the gun to impose their will, making them no different than the tyrants of today's statists.

Most people would call you a loon if you wanted to say Lenin or Stalin was a "conservative." What a hoot. They tore down the old system and constructed a completely new one in it's place, using the force of the gun to redistribute and force people to do things the way the government and the elites thought best. But if you want to call them conservative, have at it. I don't give a shit.

The point is, in the new era of humankind, the only way we will ever have freedom is through a voluntary exchange of ideas, material and labor, and through freewill. Until then, corruption, graft, greed, and inequality will be the hallmarks of all government, whether cobbled together by right-wing coalitions or left wing coalitions. When you have to FORCE people to do things at the barrel of a gun, you know your system is bankrupt.

Stalin rule would be considered right wing extremism, just as the Nazis were right wing extremist.


ONE nation to EVER use your loon libertarian theory Bubba? lol

One nation to successfully use your bleeding heart socialist theory freeloader?

Again, MOST of Western Europe, the US, Japan, Australia, etc...

Methinks you are confused, the word used to describe the above arch conservatives is Dystopian. Why do I call them arch conservatives, here's why: An arch conservative is extremely averse to change, thus they rule by my way or the gas chamber.

I'll not get into semantics with you. You can call them from the left or the right. They are still statists. They had to use the force of the gun to impose their will, making them no different than the tyrants of today's statists.

Most people would call you a loon if you wanted to say Lenin or Stalin was a "conservative." What a hoot. They tore down the old system and constructed a completely new one in it's place, using the force of the gun to redistribute and force people to do things the way the government and the elites thought best. But if you want to call them conservative, have at it. I don't give a shit.

The point is, in the new era of humankind, the only way we will ever have freedom is through a voluntary exchange of ideas, material and labor, and through freewill. Until then, corruption, graft, greed, and inequality will be the hallmarks of all government, whether cobbled together by right-wing coalitions or left wing coalitions. When you have to FORCE people to do things at the barrel of a gun, you know your system is bankrupt.

Stalin rule would be considered right wing extremism, just as the Nazis were right wing extremist.


ONE nation to EVER use your loon libertarian theory Bubba? lol

One nation to successfully use your bleeding heart socialist theory freeloader?

Again, MOST of Western Europe, the US, Japan, Australia, etc...

Maybe you missed the successful part. Any system that forces from one who earned and gives it to one that didn't is a failure from inception. It can't be successful.

 

[Conservative65]

When then poverty rate today is the same percentage as it was before the war on poverty, the only losers are those of us forced to fund those programs. What else would MSNBC say? The percentages don't lie but partisan Liberal hacks on MSNBC do. I guess as long as social welfare is around you'll be able to think you actually earned the money you get from it.

Got it, reality isn't accepted in your world. Shocking

Why don't you support your own damn three kids instead of expecting someone else to do it for you.

LOL, That's the best you have Bubba? Seriously? What your mind never got past the Simpson's? lol

Since you don't support your own, sounds like you don't have anything at all to offer. Guess showing you can't even be a baby daddy to your kids hurts your feelings.

I get it Bubba, ASSUMPTIONS based on bull sh*t, the right wings usual mode. Shocking

Hint I own my own home and have rental property (got lucky after a divorce and couldn't afford to buy where I was living so started with a duplex in a poor area).


BUT, without false premises, distortions and lies, what would you wingnutters EVER have right?

Three grown kids and 5 grandkids. Just 8 examples of a taint to the gene pool.

Can't keep a wife? Guess she figured out you were a piece of shit, too.

 

[Conservative65]

I'll not get into semantics with you. You can call them from the left or the right. They are still statists. They had to use the force of the gun to impose their will, making them no different than the tyrants of today's statists.

Most people would call you a loon if you wanted to say Lenin or Stalin was a "conservative." What a hoot. They tore down the old system and constructed a completely new one in it's place, using the force of the gun to redistribute and force people to do things the way the government and the elites thought best. But if you want to call them conservative, have at it. I don't give a shit.

The point is, in the new era of humankind, the only way we will ever have freedom is through a voluntary exchange of ideas, material and labor, and through freewill. Until then, corruption, graft, greed, and inequality will be the hallmarks of all government, whether cobbled together by right-wing coalitions or left wing coalitions. When you have to FORCE people to do things at the barrel of a gun, you know your system is bankrupt.

Stalin rule would be considered right wing extremism, just as the Nazis were right wing extremist.


ONE nation to EVER use your loon libertarian theory Bubba? lol

One nation to successfully use your bleeding heart socialist theory freeloader?

Again, MOST of Western Europe, the US, Japan, Australia, etc...

I'll not get into semantics with you. You can call them from the left or the right. They are still statists. They had to use the force of the gun to impose their will, making them no different than the tyrants of today's statists.

Most people would call you a loon if you wanted to say Lenin or Stalin was a "conservative." What a hoot. They tore down the old system and constructed a completely new one in it's place, using the force of the gun to redistribute and force people to do things the way the government and the elites thought best. But if you want to call them conservative, have at it. I don't give a shit.

The point is, in the new era of humankind, the only way we will ever have freedom is through a voluntary exchange of ideas, material and labor, and through freewill. Until then, corruption, graft, greed, and inequality will be the hallmarks of all government, whether cobbled together by right-wing coalitions or left wing coalitions. When you have to FORCE people to do things at the barrel of a gun, you know your system is bankrupt.

Stalin rule would be considered right wing extremism, just as the Nazis were right wing extremist.


ONE nation to EVER use your loon libertarian theory Bubba? lol

One nation to successfully use your bleeding heart socialist theory freeloader?

Again, MOST of Western Europe, the US, Japan, Australia, etc...

Maybe you missed the successful part. Any system that forces from one who earned and gives it to one that didn't is a failure from inception. It can't be successful.

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Says the one that can't keep a wife.

 

[Dad2three]

Conservative damagogues like Limbaugh have been able to convince the public that the huge incomes of the wealthiest Americans are irrelevant to those who make moderate-to-low incomes. They even suggest that the more money the wealthiest Americans make, the more wealth will trickle down to the lower classes.

If you've swallowed this line of conservative garbage, get ready to vomit. As all conservative economists know, and deny to the public that they know, wealth is a zero-sum game. That is true at both the front end—when income is divided up, and the back end—when it is spent.

The Front End of Zero-Sum: Dividing the Loot


There is only so much corporate income in a given year. The more of that income that is used to pay workers, the less profit the corporation makes. The less profit, the less the stock goes up. The less the stock goes up, the less the CEO and the investors make. It’s as simple as that. Profit equals income minus expenses. No more, no less. Subtract the right side of the equation from the left side and the answer is always zero. Hence the term, “zero-sum.”

So, to the extent a corporation can keep from sharing the wealth with workers—the ones who created the wealth to begin with—investors and executives get a bigger slice of the income pie and become richer.

The Zero-sum Nature of economics




The Top 0.1% Of The Nation Earn Half Of All Capital Gains (includes dividends) 1/10th of 1% of US

The Top 0.1 Of The Nation Earn Half Of All Capital Gains - Forbes


Capital Gains Tax Cuts ‘By Far’ The Biggest Contributor To Growth In Income Inequality, Study Finds


Capital gains and other investment income was taxed as regular wage income from 1986 until 1996, when the capital gains rate was reduced. It was further reduced as part of the Bush tax cuts, and over the last decade, it has reversed the equalizing effects of taxes and allowed for massive income gains for the wealthy that translated directly into increased income inequality:

By far, the largest contributor to this increase was changes in income from capital gains and dividends.

I don't listen to Limbaugh or any other blowhard partisan hack on the radio or the idiot box.

That's how I know that there is no one stopping me from improving my financial situation.

You think everyone else is holding you back when all you have to do to see who the real culprit is is look in the mirror.

So now tell me who is stopping you from making more money?

Like I said, you believe in myths and fairy tales and you can't see as a society how it works. I'm shocked. No really I am

Still won't answer the question, Corky?

Society works for people who work it.

You just don't want to work it do you?

Simplistic moron asks a simplistic question and wants a real answer??? Seriously?

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Show me how those so called greedy rich are taking money out of your pocket.

BESIDES them capturing Gov't? And the Corp subsidies?


Apple, Google and two other Silicon Valley companies have agreed to pay $415 million in a second attempt to resolve a class-action lawsuit alleging they formed an illegal cartel to prevent their workers from leaving for better-paying jobs

Apple Google Intel Adobe Reach New Deal in Employee Poaching Suit - NBC News

Scott Walker to Sign Anti-Union bill That Will Make Inequality Worse

Walker has swallowed hook, line and sinker the anti-union extremism of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), which is linked to the Koch brothers

Scott Walker to Sign Anti-Union bill That Will Make Inequality Worse Common Dreams Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community

 

[Dad2three]

How can the government increase my income?

I paid out over $12,000 in medical expenses last year. You don't see many people in other industrialized countries having to do that

They can provide lower cost educational expenses like other countries do

They can require working Americansto pay lower percentage of their income for government services and return rates for those making over $1 million a year to pay 50%

They can stop billionaires from paying a lower effective tax rate than I do

You all think taking more money from some rich guy will make your life easier.

It won't.

Only you can improve your situation but none of you want to you just want to piss and moan

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Without people like me, who would support your fucking kids?

Got it Bubba, you'll stick with the moocher vibe. Please, please lets go to why minority's should vote for the GOP, since you are doing such a good job for the poor voting for the GOP... lol


NEVER in my life have I seen such hatred of facts or critical thinking as I do from today's conservatives.

Anyone that demands another person meet the responsibility a parent has to his kids is a moocher.

If getting the vote of a bunch of freeloaders means pandering to them with another person's money, no thank. They aren't worth having.

Never in my life have I seen the mindset that one person owes another as with today's Liberals. I don't owe you or anyone else a damn thing simply because you don't have it including food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, etc. Buy it yourself or do without.

Sounds just like Christ Bubba. Thanks

 

[Conservative65]

You all think taking more money from some rich guy will make your life easier.

It won't.

Only you can improve your situation but none of you want to you just want to piss and moan

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Without people like me, who would support your fucking kids?

Got it Bubba, you'll stick with the moocher vibe. Please, please lets go to why minority's should vote for the GOP, since you are doing such a good job for the poor voting for the GOP... lol


NEVER in my life have I seen such hatred of facts or critical thinking as I do from today's conservatives.

Anyone that demands another person meet the responsibility a parent has to his kids is a moocher.

If getting the vote of a bunch of freeloaders means pandering to them with another person's money, no thank. They aren't worth having.

Never in my life have I seen the mindset that one person owes another as with today's Liberals. I don't owe you or anyone else a damn thing simply because you don't have it including food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, etc. Buy it yourself or do without.

Sounds just like Christ Bubba. Thanks

Christ didn't use the government to mandate one person giving to another.

 

[Dad2three]

You have failed to address the question

We are not talking about one person being able to work harder and earn more. We are talking about 100 million workers who need to earn more

Show me the economic data showing there are 100 million better paying jobs out there

Better paying than what?

And why does making more money necessarily mean having someone else provide a job for you?

There are countless ways to make extra money that do not involve working for someone else you know.

Reagan is dead and I never said anything about him

Ronnie was just another big government dupe pretending to be a small government guy

Try thinking out of your 2 dimensional pigeonhole once in a while.

ONE nation to EVER use your libertarian BS successfully? EVER? lol

Actually, the U.S. until freeloaders like you came along did just fine with it.

Progressive Economics: Thinking that by giving poor people someone else's money they'll be motivated to do better themselves.

Sure Bubba, sure

THE FOUNDERS WERE MANY THINGS, BUT THEY WEREN'T LIBERTARIANS.... As part of the right's newfound interest in all things constitutional, there's been a related push of late to recast the framers of the Constitution. Today's far-right activists, we're told, are the ideological descendents of the Founding Fathers.

This is certainly a welcome characterization for those who prefer to believe most of the progressive bedrocks of modern American society -- Social Security, Medicare, etc. -- are not only unconstitutional, but are wholly at odds with the vision of limited government established by the framers.

The problem, of course, is that the framers weren't libertarians. John Vecchione had a good piece on this the other day.

George Washington belonged to the Established Church (Episcopalian) of the State of Virginia; he also was the chief vindicator of national power in the new republic. Thomas Jefferson determined to wage war by simply denying foreigners the right to trade with the U.S. So did Madison. What libertarian has ever thought the government could cut off trade between free individuals?

Further, Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine supported the French Revolution. That revolution denied there was anything the state could not do in the name of the people. Jefferson never repudiated his support for that tyranny and Thomas Paine was only slightly more dismissive even after it nearly killed him. [...]

The Founders believed in carefully delineated federal powers either broad (Hamilton) or limited (Jefferson, sometimes) but all believed in a more powerful state than libertarians purport to believe in. If ever there was a libertarian document it was the Articles of Confederation. There was no national power. The federal government could not tax. Its laws were not supreme over state laws. It was in fact, the hot mess that critics of libertarians believe their dream state would be ... and it was recognized as such by the majority of the country and was why the Constitution was ratified. The Articles of Confederation is the true libertarian founding document and this explains the failure of libertarianism.

Jon Chait noted a recent piece from historian Gordon Wood that touches on this, emphasizing the similarities between the debates of the framers and those of today. "The great irony, of course, is that the Anti-Federalist ancestors of the Tea Partiers opposed the Constitution rather than revered it," Wood explained.

And this, too, speaks to a larger truth. As Ezra Klein noted yesterday, "In reality, the tea party -- like most everyone else -- is less interested in living by the Constitution than in deciding what it means to live by the Constitution." Or as Matt Yglesias added this morning, "The field of constitutional law has always featured a great deal of what's known as 'motivated belief' where people look at the document and tend to see it as supporting their preexisting policy conclusions."

The same is true of the nation's founders, and the drive on the right to convince themselves that they think as the framers did, which somehow gives contemporary conservatism a weighty, historical legacy, and a strong foundation from which to attack the modern welfare state.

This might be more compelling if it weren't transparent nonsense.

The Washington Monthly


HINT, GOV'T ALWAYS HAD A HAND IN THE ECONOMY!!! LOL

 

[Dad2three]

AGAIN, we tried your nonsense before PROGRESSIVE POLICIES built the worlds largest middle class, it looked a lot like Indonesia (or other 3rd world nations), your new fluff buddies paradise!!!


When are you going to grow a brain Bubba? ONE state/nation to EVER use your libertarian BS EVER? lol

We've tried the bleeding heart policies for well over 50 years and still have the same percentage in poverty.

Hard to do the right thing when enough of you piss ant bleeding hearts that rely on my hard work think someone owes you something.

The progressive mindset is only part of what's your is yours and the rest of your is mine.

Yep, and Medicare is on the way out, right Bubba? lol

Too many leeches willing to vote in politicians willing to pander to people like you with someone else's money. How sad it must be to know that you, a dad to three based on your name, can't support his own kids.

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Hint 3 GROWN kids (owning 3 houses) with 5 grand-kids. Next fallacy Bubba? lol

Without freeloading leeches, we'd have more of our own money.

Spoken like a true "Christian" of the modern AmeriKKKan conservative movement, and my ex wonders why I walked away from the belief in a God *shaking head*

 

[Wry Catcher]

How can the government increase my income?

I paid out over $12,000 in medical expenses last year. You don't see many people in other industrialized countries having to do that

They can provide lower cost educational expenses like other countries do

They can require working Americansto pay lower percentage of their income for government services and return rates for those making over $1 million a year to pay 50%

They can stop billionaires from paying a lower effective tax rate than I do

You all think taking more money from some rich guy will make your life easier.

It won't.

Only you can improve your situation but none of you want to you just want to piss and moan

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Without people like me, who would support your fucking kids?

Got it Bubba, you'll stick with the moocher vibe. Please, please lets go to why minority's should vote for the GOP, since you are doing such a good job for the poor voting for the GOP... lol


NEVER in my life have I seen such hatred of facts or critical thinking as I do from today's conservatives.

Anyone that demands another person meet the responsibility a parent has to his kids is a moocher.

If getting the vote of a bunch of freeloaders means pandering to them with another person's money, no thank. They aren't worth having.

Never in my life have I seen the mindset that one person owes another as with today's Liberals. I don't owe you or anyone else a damn thing simply because you don't have it including food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, etc. Buy it yourself or do without.

This is only a guess, but I suspect I paid as much in taxes, as you earned in 2014. The only people I disrespect, who receive (in theory) my tax dollars, are the Members of Congress.

 

[Wry Catcher]

How can the government increase my income?

I paid out over $12,000 in medical expenses last year. You don't see many people in other industrialized countries having to do that

They can provide lower cost educational expenses like other countries do

They can require working Americansto pay lower percentage of their income for government services and return rates for those making over $1 million a year to pay 50%

They can stop billionaires from paying a lower effective tax rate than I do

You all think taking more money from some rich guy will make your life easier.

It won't.

Only you can improve your situation but none of you want to you just want to piss and moan

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Without people like me, who would support your fucking kids?

Poor baby, does the whiner pay taxes and resent the fact that his money helps others? Well, why don't you simply read that bible of yours, you can cherry pick passages that make you feel avarice is a virtue and I can find some that make what you covet a deadly sin:

No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money. (NIV, Matthew 6:24)

I've read it and what you claim it says isn't there when it comes to Jesus using the government to mandate charity.

Desiring to help people as I see the need not where you determine it for me doesn't go against that verse.

Another deadly sin committed by the 'good' Christian. So you know what Jesus meant, isn't that over the top Pride?

 

[Conservative65]

You all think taking more money from some rich guy will make your life easier.

It won't.

Only you can improve your situation but none of you want to you just want to piss and moan

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Without people like me, who would support your fucking kids?

Got it Bubba, you'll stick with the moocher vibe. Please, please lets go to why minority's should vote for the GOP, since you are doing such a good job for the poor voting for the GOP... lol


NEVER in my life have I seen such hatred of facts or critical thinking as I do from today's conservatives.

Anyone that demands another person meet the responsibility a parent has to his kids is a moocher.

If getting the vote of a bunch of freeloaders means pandering to them with another person's money, no thank. They aren't worth having.

Never in my life have I seen the mindset that one person owes another as with today's Liberals. I don't owe you or anyone else a damn thing simply because you don't have it including food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, etc. Buy it yourself or do without.

This is only a guess, but I suspect I paid as much in taxes, as you earned in 2014. The only people I disrespect, who receive (in theory) my tax dollars, are the Members of Congress.

Sure you did. Why don't you prove it if you suspect it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Sure, you "said it" yet support policy and politicians who support and do the opposite. Weird

I support politicians who want to seal the border.
You support Obama who wants to import more illegals.
Why do you hate poor Americans?

Obama doesn't want to let millions more illegals come here?
Obama didn't sign an executive amnesty? LOL!
Maybe Obamacare can help you with that brain damage?

Like I said, without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have?

"Obama doesn't want to let millions more illegals come here?"

There is the LIE


"Obama didn't sign an executive amnesty? "

Thee is the distortion

What else do you morons have Bubba?

Obama is doing nothing to prevent millions of illegals from coming here and reducing wages for Americans.
He hates poor Americans and if you support him, you do too.

And the Reps controlling Congress has done what? Nothing. They are too busy fighting the same war as you are to actually do anything. That war is "Get rid of Obama at all costs including the cost of losing a Nation".

 

[Conservative65]

You all think taking more money from some rich guy will make your life easier.

It won't.

Only you can improve your situation but none of you want to you just want to piss and moan

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Without people like me, who would support your fucking kids?

Poor baby, does the whiner pay taxes and resent the fact that his money helps others? Well, why don't you simply read that bible of yours, you can cherry pick passages that make you feel avarice is a virtue and I can find some that make what you covet a deadly sin:

No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money. (NIV, Matthew 6:24)

I've read it and what you claim it says isn't there when it comes to Jesus using the government to mandate charity.

Desiring to help people as I see the need not where you determine it for me doesn't go against that verse.

Another deadly sin committed by the 'good' Christian. So you know what Jesus meant, isn't that over the top Pride?

Another example of a bad person like you misusing something he simply doesn't understand.

 

[Dad2three]

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Without people like me, who would support your fucking kids?

Got it Bubba, you'll stick with the moocher vibe. Please, please lets go to why minority's should vote for the GOP, since you are doing such a good job for the poor voting for the GOP... lol


NEVER in my life have I seen such hatred of facts or critical thinking as I do from today's conservatives.

Anyone that demands another person meet the responsibility a parent has to his kids is a moocher.

If getting the vote of a bunch of freeloaders means pandering to them with another person's money, no thank. They aren't worth having.

Never in my life have I seen the mindset that one person owes another as with today's Liberals. I don't owe you or anyone else a damn thing simply because you don't have it including food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, etc. Buy it yourself or do without.

Sounds just like Christ Bubba. Thanks

Christ didn't use the government to mandate one person giving to another.

Yet it's mainly the "Bible Belt" right wingers sucking off the teet of the blue staters. Go figure

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.

Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala The New Republic

 

[Wry Catcher]

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would right wingers EVER have Bubba?

Without people like me, who would support your fucking kids?

Got it Bubba, you'll stick with the moocher vibe. Please, please lets go to why minority's should vote for the GOP, since you are doing such a good job for the poor voting for the GOP... lol


NEVER in my life have I seen such hatred of facts or critical thinking as I do from today's conservatives.

Anyone that demands another person meet the responsibility a parent has to his kids is a moocher.

If getting the vote of a bunch of freeloaders means pandering to them with another person's money, no thank. They aren't worth having.

Never in my life have I seen the mindset that one person owes another as with today's Liberals. I don't owe you or anyone else a damn thing simply because you don't have it including food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, etc. Buy it yourself or do without.

This is only a guess, but I suspect I paid as much in taxes, as you earned in 2014. The only people I disrespect, who receive (in theory) my tax dollars, are the Members of Congress.

Sure you did. Why don't you prove it if you suspect it.

Tell me your 2014 income, and I'll post how much I paid in federal income tax, and if necessary, real estate taxes on two homes in CA., special district taxes, sales taxes and surtax on gasoline.