The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

[Faun]

You people suggested that Maude was casually jogging towards someone who had been terroristicly threatening him with a gun and was clearly a deadly threat

Again you are a liar. He was not casually jogging toward only one threat. He was not casually jogging because he was being chased from behind by a man in a pickup truck the final minute of his life. So that omission makes you a liar..

You also are a liar because AA chose not to jog toward TM when he got out of the truck and aimed his shotgun at AA. He ran in a direction to avoid TM and would’ve made it had TM not reposition to cut him off and shoot him.

are you 12?

You already admitted that Travis McMichael never stood in front of OR "cut off" Arberry
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You said he tried to do it meaning that he did not accomplish his goal of cutting him off by "standing in front of him"

arberry had a big wide open street right in front of him where he could have just kept running while black but he chose to attack

I have another unfortunate news flash for you...standing in front of someone in the middle of the street is not a crime so even if Travis McMichael somehow did get in front of arberry it still doesn't justify using violence when you have so many other opportunities to escape

Even a professional hack Like Richard dial couldn't say that Travis "aimed a gun" at Maude with a straight face, instead he sounded like a bumbling stumbling Porky Pig with something up his butt

Travis wasn't just standing there, he was threatening Arbery with deadly force. You said so yourself. This is gonna be a slam dunk case for the prosecution when even Travis McMichael's most staunch supporters like you think he posed a deadly threat to Arbery.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

You people suggested that Maude was casually jogging towards someone who had been terroristicly threatening him with a gun and was clearly a deadly threat

Again you are a liar. He was not casually jogging toward only one threat. He was not casually jogging because he was being chased from behind by a man in a pickup truck the final minute of his life. So that omission makes you a liar..

You also are a liar because AA chose not to jog toward TM when he got out of the truck and aimed his shotgun at AA. He ran in a direction to avoid TM and would’ve made it had TM not reposition to cut him off and shoot him.

are you 12?

You already admitted that Travis McMichael never stood in front of OR "cut off" Arberry
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You said he tried to do it meaning that he did not accomplish his goal of cutting him off by "standing in front of him"

arberry had a big wide open street right in front of him where he could have just kept running while black but he chose to attack

I have another unfortunate news flash for you...standing in front of someone in the middle of the street is not a crime so even if Travis McMichael somehow did get in front of arberry it still doesn't justify using violence when you have so many other opportunities to escape

Even a professional hack Like Richard dial couldn't say that Travis "aimed a gun" at Maude with a straight face, instead he sounded like a bumbling stumbling Porky Pig with something up his butt

Travis wasn't just standing there, he was threatening Arbery with deadly force. You said so yourself. This is gonna be a slam dunk case for the prosecution when even Travis McMichael's most staunch supporters like you think he posed a deadly threat to Arbery.

(notice no quote)

* he doesn't like to quote people because it messes up the drama narrative

How exactly did Travis "threaten" Maude?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

 

[NotfooledbyW]

You said he tried to do it meaning that he did not accomplish his goal of cutting him off by "standing in front of him"

No. You are a lying moron. TM did try to get in front to try to stop AA, but AA didn’t stop so TM shot AA in the chest - that still didn’t stop him. So AA Tried to beat the shit out of the whacko that just shot him.

IF TM didn’t shoot AA in a couple hundred yards AA gets away on a Main Street where the racist fuckheads can’t set up another roadblock.

You are a liar because you have absolutely no way of knowing that AA decided to attack before getting shot. That makes no sense because a few seconds before AA was shot he changed course to avoid TM. Yet you say AA was a minute from getting away but for no reason at all AA comes around the front of the Truck, sees Travis there standing with barrel down picking his nose minding his own business in the middle of the westbound lane so in half a second he decides To punch TM in the face simultaneously grabbing the gun whije delivering a blow that somehow elevates TM into midair and then gets shot and then wrestles around in the eastbound lane some more for the gun and gets shot again snd gets shot again - fatally.

And you can’t learn how ignorant you are. racism rules your fact free mind.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

How exactly did Travis "threaten" Maude?

When he aimed a shotgun at him right here.

and after that TM threatened AA again after he moved toward AA as he headed around the other side of the truck and when they came together he pulled the trigger.

Do you see the shotgun blast above the stop sign? Aren’t you saying that’s proof the gun was fired at this frame when AA just makes it past the front of the truck?

 

[Dadoalex]

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way

the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had suffered a string of recent burglaries and fled like a thief when he was confronted by the neighbor

The McMichaels weren't a couple of hillbillies sitting on their front porch downing canned beer when an innocent black jogger happened by

they are BOTH former professional law enforcement agents who recognized the local Petty Criminal hauling ass up the street from the video Larry English had captured after installing a security system and no trespassing sign due to the burglaries and may have been alerted by the first neighbor who had called 911 when he saw arberry illegally enter the crime scene and subsequently bolt when he realized he'd been caught

Per Georgia law they armed themselves and engaged in a Pursuit while on the phone with 911 and continued to relay the criminals position to the responding officers

At one point Arberry decided he was going to attack the McMichaels and ran towards Travis grabbing his shotgun and punching him in the face numerous times committing a felony assault

In fact it was so obvious a simple self-defense shooting that they couldn't even determine whether or not Travis had pulled the trigger intentionally or not as when an attacking person is pulling on a long gun it is perfectly plausible that they themselves set the fire arm off

The notion that a couple of vigilante Hillbillies set upon an innocent black jogger and gunned him down in the street is a complete joke

The fact is Arberry committed a crime by entering a residence with a no trespassing sign and then bolted when confronted thus providing reasonable suspicion that he was in fact the person they recognized from the videos and a prior encounter Travis had with him. In fact Gregory McMichael knew arberry because he had worked on one of his previous crimes

It's absolutely hilarious that mainstream media Outlets can get away with a false narrative and an edited video designed to convince people that these two men are bloodthirsty murderers who decided to hunt down an innocent black jogger, if they had planned to murder a jogger they certainly wouldn't have used a shotgun with a less-lethal round then is a available at Walmart to do so.

It certainly is a shame that businesses who have suffered damage due to riots can't sue these media outlets for false information leading to the violence and destruction that has crippled their

They ran the man down and murdered him.
He was unarmed and, except for getting a drink from a hose, had not committed a crime.
The men who murdered him did not know him.
They did not know his background.
He was just a niggar in their neighborhood and they weren't going to have THAT.

Why are you justifying murder?

 

[Dadoalex]

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way

the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had suffered a string of recent burglaries and fled like a thief when he was confronted by the neighbor

The McMichaels weren't a couple of hillbillies sitting on their front porch downing canned beer when an innocent black jogger happened by

they are BOTH former professional law enforcement agents who recognized the local Petty Criminal hauling ass up the street from the video Larry English had captured after installing a security system and no trespassing sign due to the burglaries and may have been alerted by the first neighbor who had called 911 when he saw arberry illegally enter the crime scene and subsequently bolt when he realized he'd been caught

Per Georgia law they armed themselves and engaged in a Pursuit while on the phone with 911 and continued to relay the criminals position to the responding officers

At one point Arberry decided he was going to attack the McMichaels and ran towards Travis grabbing his shotgun and punching him in the face numerous times committing a felony assault

In fact it was so obvious a simple self-defense shooting that they couldn't even determine whether or not Travis had pulled the trigger intentionally or not as when an attacking person is pulling on a long gun it is perfectly plausible that they themselves set the fire arm off

The notion that a couple of vigilante Hillbillies set upon an innocent black jogger and gunned him down in the street is a complete joke

The fact is Arberry committed a crime by entering a residence with a no trespassing sign and then bolted when confronted thus providing reasonable suspicion that he was in fact the person they recognized from the videos and a prior encounter Travis had with him. In fact Gregory McMichael knew arberry because he had worked on one of his previous crimes

It's absolutely hilarious that mainstream media Outlets can get away with a false narrative and an edited video designed to convince people that these two men are bloodthirsty murderers who decided to hunt down an innocent black jogger, if they had planned to murder a jogger they certainly wouldn't have used a shotgun with a less-lethal round then is a available at Walmart to do so.

It certainly is a shame that businesses who have suffered damage due to riots can't sue these media outlets for false information leading to the violence and destruction that has crippled their

With all due respect, you ain't seen nothing yet.

In the coming decades, there will be outrages that are even worse.

The perp will become the victim; the victim, the perp.

There ain't nothing that can be done about it, for more and more "journalists" will be those "kids" who marched in 2020's BLM demonstrations.

That's the future United States. What a tragedy!

Isn't that what the OP is doing to Arberry?

 

[Dadoalex]

I'm eager to see what happens in this case.

Everyone watches the video and comes to their own conclusion. In my opinion, as a staunch supporter of the 2nd Amendment and concealed carry permit holder, I believe the only way Travis McMichael avoids the death penalty is if he makes a deal. I believe Gregory McMichael goes to prison for a minimum of 20 years. I may be a bit off on both of those, but they're both going to spend a long time in prison.

They armed themselves, chased down someone down and killed him. And they have it on video. Those are facts. Was Arbury a thief? I dunno', sure. Let's say he was. Did Gregory and Travis McMichael actually witness him stealing anything? No, by their own admission they did not. His previous actions did not justify the actions taken by the McMichael's boys.

Oh, and to a point made by the OP, I haven't seen a single thing which says the younger McMichael was a former law enforcement professional. Frankly, the guy looks like he'd have a difficult time dressing himself...

Travis McMichael was trained by the US military in law enforcement and it's perfectly legal to arm yourself and Chase someone you suspect of committing a crime in the state of Georgia and if that person decides to violently attack you you're allowed to defend yourself as well

Golly. A reference to a statute might support your claim.

 

[Faun]

How exactly did Travis "threaten" Maude?

You tell me. You're the one who said Travis was a deadly threat to Arbery.

 

[Faun]

Once again, you show how Arbery was within his legal right to try to disarm Travis. Your video explains if you're being threatened with death, you can engage in self-defense and even use lethal force against that deadly threat.

And as you yourself said -- Travis posed a deadly threat to Ahmaud Arbery.

This case will end very quickly and very badly for the MchMichaels.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

IF TM didn’t shoot AA in a couple hundred yards AA gets away on a Main Street where the racist fuckheads can’t set up another roadblock

I got you so there's no racism on Main Street? LOL

why couldn't they just drive up in their truck and shoot him on Main Street?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

when they came together

But if Maud would have kept jogging while black he wouldn't have "came together" with Travis

You already admitted that Travis didn't block his path of travel

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Once again, you show how Arbery was within his legal right to try to disarm Travis. Your video explains if you're being threatened with death, you can engage in self-defense and even use lethal force against that deadly threat.

And as you yourself said -- Travis posed a deadly threat to Ahmaud Arbery.

This case will end very quickly and very badly for the MchMichaels.

try to leave B-dub at of it

that's my boy

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

They ran the man down

* actually he ran them down

had not committed a crime.

* except Criminal Trespass with the intent to commit burglary which is a felony in Georgia

The men who murdered him did not know him

* yes they actually did, they recognized him as a wanted criminal hauling ass up the road as if he was running from something

He was just a niggar in their neighborhood and they weren't going to have THAT

They only chased him because they recognized him from the video and their personal first-hand experiences with him, if he was Korean they would have been chasing a Korean

(you're a gold mine)

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Once again, you show how Arbery was within his legal right to try to disarm Travis. Your video explains if you're being threatened with death, you can engage in self-defense and even use lethal force against that deadly threat.

And as you yourself said -- Travis posed a deadly threat to Ahmaud Arbery.

This case will end very quickly and very badly for the MchMichaels.

So if you chase somebody cuz they black it's okay for them to punch you in the throat cuz you got a gun?

( I like where this is going)

 

[NotfooledbyW]

KingGUERRILLA is a deranged pathetic liar. Here is one example why:

It starts with post: 26436722 KingG utters a rare truth that TM was a fool for trying to cut off AA’s path of travel.

Travis who is now foolishly trying to cut off the criminals path of Escape against his father's wise

Then in Post 26448973 KingG ask a question.

Why would Travis shoot him this time when he had so many other opportunities?

In post: 26449056 I answered:

You answered that question already. BECAUSE HE WAS A DUMBASS WITH A GUN. when he tried to block AA’s path of travel.

Notice the full answer. “BECAUSE HE WAS A DUMBASS WITH A GUN when he tried to block AA’s path of travel.”

Since that answer KingG lies like this:

You already admitted that Travis didn't block his path of travel

The big KingG lie was in Post 26449063 when he dropped half of my sentence and dropped the word “when”

he tried to block AA’s path of travel

So you admit he never even blocked his path of travel?

I said TM shot AA “BECAUSE HE WAS A DUMBASS WITH A GUN when he tried to block AA’s path of travel.”

And he was a dumbass with a gun when he made this move:

He was a Dumbass “with a gun”
because he tried to physically block AA’s path with a loaded shotgun in his hand. He should not have put himself in a position that would cause him to shoot somebody who didn’t want to stop jogging while black.

I cant prove it but the video evidence strongly suggests that AA did not expect TM to be there in front of the truck when he came around it and was immediately shot. And then he had to fight.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

because he tried to physically block AA’s path

so you admit he never even blocked his path of Escape or even put a hand on him!!

maude had clear open road in front of him but chose to turn 90 degrees to the left run a few steps and attack travis by grabbing the firearm and trying to dislodge it by striking Travis in the face with his other hand

By running up to and then attacking a man who is standing his ground holding a gun maude committed the act of felony assault after he had already committed Criminal Trespass and a carjacking attempt

In response to the felony assault on his person Travis McMichael was forced to discharge his shotgun loaded with pellets in an attempt to stop the assault

Throughout the entire assault McMichael continuously moved backward and never once raised his firearm as he was fighting for control of it as it discharged

the split-second the assault ceased Travis McMichael stopped firing his weapon dropped it down and continued to move rearward and circle away as he allowed the criminal who had just attacked him to flee

 

[NotfooledbyW]

post: 26455850

But if Maud would have kept jogging while black he wouldn't have "came together" with Travis

But your racism and dishonesty prevents you from recognizing that it was TM’s aggressive move in the final few seconds prior to the first shot that caused the two men to come together.

A critical point is that TM knew the general general direction that AA intended to go to get past him. AA did not know what AA would do or where TM would be after AA swerved to avoid TM and ran to the passenger side of the truck. And add to that unknown was the fact that TM’s move to intercept AA at the front of the truck was not visible to AA until AA makes it to the front of the truck and it all happened so fast.,

I do not see how any member of the jury will buy your racist scenario that a mentally challenged black male was required to anticipate and calculate that he must not run from the grass back onto the pavement when he gets around the truck because there was a possibility that TM would be ahead of him ready to fire and would fire within half a second of setting a foot onto the pavement.

That pavement was AA’s path of travel and the whole case boils down to responsibility during that half a second between AA’s foot touching the pavement and the first shot being fired..

You blame an unarmed man for his own death because he didn’t figure out under all that stress that TM would be where he was ready to shoot if he didn’t stay in the grass.

And you don’t know if TM would not have pulled the trigger if AA figured that all out and stayed on the grass a bit longer until safely past the threat to his life.

The racism in you wants TM to walk free after admitting that TM’s move to the front of the truck was dumb.

You are saying the stupid N-word deserved death because he did not figure out under duress what you were forced to finally admit on a message boards

post: 26436722

Travis who is now foolishly trying to cut off the criminals path of Escape against his father's wise

If you really think the white moron with a gun who foolishly tried to cut AA off should walk after ending a young man’s life for jogging while black there can be no doubt that a moral and reasonable society posces the label “racist” on you.. that’s the only plausible explanation for your atrocious content on this forum.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

maude had clear open road in front of him

Not if TM is still coming at AA as AA passes the windshield and sees TM with shotgun aimed at him.

Since you are a racist you can’t know why your statement that AA had a clear path in front of him is just another one if your lies.

because you do not know because the video does not show if TM was standing still or still moving towards a collision with the man he was trying to stop.

 

[SavannahMann]

Your video proves that Travis is the criminal.