The Pope calls for end of death penalty

[Blackrook]

A murderer sent to prison for life might kill another prisoner, or order the killing of a President, which is what Charles Manson did. Twice.

 

[OnePercenter]

Is the Catholic Church going to pay for housing people forever? I mean, they do have the monies to do that.

Vatican Inc.: 5 facts about the business of the Catholic Church

You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion. L. Ron Hubbard

 

[zaangalewa]

... Catholics are not required to be either pro or con the death penalty. ....

What's wrong. Death penalty is not compatible with the catholic faith. The only reason for death penalty in former times was it to eliminate extremly dangerous human beings - so everyone was able to live in peace. But today prisons are save, so there's no need any longer for death penalty.

You misquoted that...Meriweather said that.

You don't understand: Jesus was a victim of death penatly. That's an essential reason why never a Christian is able to be a friend of death penalty.

 

[zaangalewa]

Is the Catholic Church going to pay for housing people forever? I mean, they do have the monies to do that.

Vatican Inc.: 5 facts about the business of the Catholic Church

You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion. L. Ron Hubbard

Scientology is a criminal organisation. Nothing else. And it's by the way interesting to hear that three times as many people are visiting Rome now since Francesco is Pope. I guess you are not able to understand how fascinating in his completly normal Catholicism our Pope Francis is for us.

 

[zaangalewa]

Pope calls for worldwide abolition of death penalty

There is no evidence that it acts as a deterrent, so its application is purely revenge/punishment.

Is he right or misguided ?

The New Testament says that the law ("a life for a life") can be practiced...wonder why he would talk against the New Testament.

Such a sentence like "life for a life" could mean only to give the own life instead of a killed life. A man who for example accidentally killed someone was for example responsible for the life of the old mother of the killed person. Do you have a concrete context in the NT?

It's in one of Paul's epistles.

I was not able to find it there. ... But I enjoyed very much to read textes from Paul by taking a special view to the word "life" in his textes. Thank you for this idea. It's fascinating.

 

[OnePercenter]

... Catholics are not required to be either pro or con the death penalty. ....

What's wrong. Death penalty is not compatible with the catholic faith. The only reason for death penalty in former times was it to eliminate extremly dangerous human beings - so everyone was able to live in peace. But today prisons are save, so there's no need any longer for death penalty.

You misquoted that...Meriweather said that.

You don't understand: Jesus was a victim of death penatly. That's an essential reason why never a Christian is able to be a friend of death penalty.

You don't understand: Jesus was a victim of death penatly. That's an essential reason why never a Christian is able to be a friend of death penalty.

As the story goes.

The truth is the brain is fantastic! It starts to function just before you are born, and fully functions until you join a religion.

 

[OnePercenter]

Is the Catholic Church going to pay for housing people forever? I mean, they do have the monies to do that.

Vatican Inc.: 5 facts about the business of the Catholic Church

You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion. L. Ron Hubbard

Scientology is a criminal organisation. Nothing else. And it's by the way interesting to hear that three times as many people are visiting Rome now since Francesco is Pope. I guess you are not able to understand how fascinating in his completly normal Catholicism our Pope Francis is for us.

In case you haven't noticed, ALL organized religion is criminal. Why do you think God directed L. Ron Hubbard to create Scientology? God was trying to tell you something, you didn't listen!

 

[zaangalewa]

... Catholics are not required to be either pro or con the death penalty. ....

What's wrong. Death penalty is not compatible with the catholic faith. The only reason for death penalty in former times was it to eliminate extremly dangerous human beings - so everyone was able to live in peace. But today prisons are save, so there's no need any longer for death penalty.

You misquoted that...Meriweather said that.

You don't understand: Jesus was a victim of death penatly. That's an essential reason why never a Christian is able to be a friend of death penalty.

You don't understand: Jesus was a victim of death penatly. That's an essential reason why never a Christian is able to be a friend of death penalty.

As the story goes.

The truth is the brain is fantastic! It starts to function just before you are born, and fully functions until you join a religion.

I don't understand what you like to say with this words.

 

[zaangalewa]

Is the Catholic Church going to pay for housing people forever? I mean, they do have the monies to do that.

Vatican Inc.: 5 facts about the business of the Catholic Church

You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion. L. Ron Hubbard

Scientology is a criminal organisation. Nothing else. And it's by the way interesting to hear that three times as many people are visiting Rome now since Francesco is Pope. I guess you are not able to understand how fascinating in his completly normal Catholicism our Pope Francis is for us.

In case you haven't noticed, ALL organized religion is criminal.

Strange.

Why do you think God directed L. Ron Hubbard to create Scientology? God was trying to tell you something, you didn't listen!

Seems to me you are a prisoner of your own thoughts. I said: "Scientology is a criminal organisation. Nothing else".

 

[GiveMeATicketToWork]

... Catholics are not required to be either pro or con the death penalty. ....

What's wrong. Death penalty is not compatible with the catholic faith. The only reason for death penalty in former times was it to eliminate extremly dangerous human beings - so everyone was able to live in peace. But today prisons are save, so there's no need any longer for death penalty.

You misquoted that...Meriweather said that.

You don't understand: Jesus was a victim of death penatly. That's an essential reason why never a Christian is able to be a friend of death penalty.

The law says a life for a life and Paul says that the law can be practiced.

 

[GiveMeATicketToWork]

Pope calls for worldwide abolition of death penalty

There is no evidence that it acts as a deterrent, so its application is purely revenge/punishment.

Is he right or misguided ?

The New Testament says that the law ("a life for a life") can be practiced...wonder why he would talk against the New Testament.

Such a sentence like "life for a life" could mean only to give the own life instead of a killed life. A man who for example accidentally killed someone was for example responsible for the life of the old mother of the killed person. Do you have a concrete context in the NT?

It's in one of Paul's epistles.

I was not able to find it there. ... But I enjoyed very much to read textes from Paul by taking a special view to the word "life" in his textes. Thank you for this idea. It's fascinating.

I'll do a search for you and get back to you with an edit of this post...

EDIT - This is Galatians 5:3, NIV:

"(3)Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law."

Here Paul says that the law can be practiced if one wants to be circumcised.

 

[GiveMeATicketToWork]

ogibillm

I missed the joke where you said my post (post #11) was funny.

 

[sealybobo]

Pope calls for worldwide abolition of death penalty

There is no evidence that it acts as a deterrent, so its application is purely revenge/punishment.

Is he right or misguided ?

1. If it's not fair, make it fair. All those questionable cases should have never been death penalty cases. It should only be used when there's no question the person did it. The uber driver in Saginaw who drove around shooting people. He should be put to death but Michigan doesn't have the death penalty.

2. If you only use it for slam dunk cases the appeal process doesn't have to be so expensive. Ten bullets is cheap.

3. Life in prison isn't so bad once you get used to it I bet.

I see no reason to feed house educate and entertain these animals for their entire life. It's like social security Medicare and a free senior citizen home early retirement

 

[Moonglow]

Pope calls for worldwide abolition of death penalty

There is no evidence that it acts as a deterrent, so its application is purely revenge/punishment.

Is he right or misguided ?

Where would the Christians and the Pope be without a little capital punishment?

 

[zaangalewa]

... Catholics are not required to be either pro or con the death penalty. ....

What's wrong. Death penalty is not compatible with the catholic faith. The only reason for death penalty in former times was it to eliminate extremly dangerous human beings - so everyone was able to live in peace. But today prisons are save, so there's no need any longer for death penalty.

You misquoted that...Meriweather said that.

You don't understand: Jesus was a victim of death penatly. That's an essential reason why never a Christian is able to be a friend of death penalty.

The law says a life for a life and Paul says that the law can be practiced.

You show with this sentence only that you don't read the bible and you don't have any idea about the christian religion and traditions. Fortunatelly god is not a dead thing to claim - god is alive. So I will ask the Holy Spirit to enlighten your heart to find the beauties and happinesses of lifes. May god never bring anyone in the force to have to kill you as you like to kill others.

 

[zaangalewa]

Pope calls for worldwide abolition of death penalty

There is no evidence that it acts as a deterrent, so its application is purely revenge/punishment.

Is he right or misguided ?

1. If it's not fair, make it fair. All those questionable cases should have never been death penalty cases. It should only be used when there's no question the person did it. The uber driver in Saginaw who drove around shooting people. He should be put to death but Michigan doesn't have the death penalty.

2. If you only use it for slam dunk cases the appeal process doesn't have to be so expensive. Ten bullets is cheap.

3. Life in prison isn't so bad once you get used to it I bet.

I see no reason to feed house educate and entertain these animals for their entire life. It's like social security Medicare and a free senior citizen home early retirement

Pope calls for worldwide abolition of death penalty

There is no evidence that it acts as a deterrent, so its application is purely revenge/punishment.

Is he right or misguided ?

The New Testament says that the law ("a life for a life") can be practiced...wonder why he would talk against the New Testament.

Such a sentence like "life for a life" could mean only to give the own life instead of a killed life. A man who for example accidentally killed someone was for example responsible for the life of the old mother of the killed person. Do you have a concrete context in the NT?

It's in one of Paul's epistles.

I was not able to find it there. ... But I enjoyed very much to read textes from Paul by taking a special view to the word "life" in his textes. Thank you for this idea. It's fascinating.

I'll do a search for you and get back to you with an edit of this post...

EDIT - This is Galatians 5:3, NIV:

"(3)Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law."

Here Paul says that the law can be practiced if one wants to be circumcised.

This are the first four sentences of the letter from Paul to the people in Galata, chapter 5:

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For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. ...
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[Mudda]

... Catholics are not required to be either pro or con the death penalty. ....

What's wrong. Death penalty is not compatible with the catholic faith. The only reason for death penalty in former times was it to eliminate extremly dangerous human beings - so everyone was able to live in peace. But today prisons are save, so there's no need any longer for death penalty.

You misquoted that...Meriweather said that.

You don't understand: Jesus was a victim of death penatly. That's an essential reason why never a Christian is able to be a friend of death penalty.

The law says a life for a life and Paul says that the law can be practiced.

You show with this sentence only that you don't read the bible and you don't have any idea about the christian religion and traditions. Fortunatelly god is not a dead thing to claim - god is alive. So I will ask the Holy Spirit to enlighten your heart to find the beauties and happinesses of lifes. May god never bring anyone in the force to have to kill you as you like to kill others.

God's plan for mankind has killed everyone that ever existed. Making god a mass murderer.

 

[Meriweather]

God's plan for mankind has killed everyone that ever existed. Making god a mass murderer.

Which is kind of like saying, every child a mother has ever given birth to has died or will die--making mothers mass murderers. And, what about the men who impregnated them? Let's call them mass murderers as well.

God (and mothers for that matter) are called givers of life for a reason. People of faith believe without God, there would be no life; that with God there is eternal life.

 

[Mudda]

God's plan for mankind has killed everyone that ever existed. Making god a mass murderer.

Which is kind of like saying, every child a mother has ever given birth to has died or will die--making mothers mass murderers. And, what about the men who impregnated them? Let's call them mass murderers as well.

God (and mothers for that matter) are called givers of life for a reason. People of faith believe without God, there would be no life; that with God there is eternal life.

Only god can make souls. And he stillborns some of their bodies, and others he deforms or gives cancer...

 

[Meriweather]

Only god can make souls. And he stillborns some of their bodies, and others he deforms or gives cancer...

God does not "give" cancer or deformities. Rather the souls enter physical bodies, some--simply by the nature of being physical bodies may develop deformity or illness. In my career as teacher, I have met many beautiful souls in deformed, ill bodies. It appears that God can work with souls no matter what physical troubles they face and live with in this physical realm.