The Presbyterian Church votes to declare Israel an apartheid state

[22lcidw]

German nationalism was called Nazis..

Globalism is the new nazis. And the fools that are being enveloped by their pie in the sky promises. What we see in areas of our nation is a deconstructing going on. We pay more and more in taxes and fees and fines and get less back for it. This is planned to bankrupt us. Thousands of useless or little value return programs that adds up.

 

[BackAgain]

Wow, what is with the Presbyterian church today?!! These people have been completely taken over by the left and the wokesters!

The Presbyterian Church voted to declare Israel an apartheid state. Jewish organizations are calling the move antisemitic.​

• The US Presbyterian Church voted to declare Israel's actions against Palestinians apartheid.
• Jewish organizations argued the move is antisemitic, calling the allegation "offensive and false."
• "[T]here is a fundamental difference between antisemitism and the right to critique the policies of Israel," read a letter by the church.

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The Presbyterians are stupid and ignorant on international issues and on the meaning of “apartheid.”

So, who gives a shit what they voted on?

 

[JGalt]

That's what I figured.

A person doesn't have to belong to a church to read the Bible, accept Christ, and be saved.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Israel calls any kind of criticism "anti-antisemitism".

Indirect Insults Won't Be Deciphered

Thinking Jews have no more rights than the rabid Arab rabble is anti-Jewish, just as the Civil Rights Acts were an attack on Whites by the same upper class that invented antisemitism.

 

[TheParser]

No one should criticize Israel for its desire to remain a Jewish state.

Hear tell, about 25% of the population are non-Jewish. That's fine. Am sure that they are lovely people.

But Israel looks at the ethnic, uh, unpleasantness in the United States and says, "We will pass, thank you."

So it's fine, I feel, if Israel peacefully and gently asks non-Jewish people who are currently living in Israel if they will be nice enough to find another home.

For example, some perfectly lovely people from sub-Sahara Africa are in Israel. The Israeli government has offered them generous financial incentives to leave. Israel, hear tell, has even offered to help them emigrate to a welcoming European nation.

"Apartheid"? That is just a word.

Israel is determined to NOT become another United States.

Can you blame it?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Globalism is the new nazis. And the fools that are being enveloped by their pie in the sky promises. What we see in areas of our nation is a deconstructing going on. We pay more and more in taxes and fees and fines and get less back for it. This is planned to bankrupt us. Thousands of useless or little value return programs that adds up.

OLD SCHOOL: Daniel Boone
NEW AGE: Boondoggle

 

[surada]

A person doesn't have to belong to a church to read the Bible, accept Christ, and be saved.

Where did the Scofield influence come from?

 

[JGalt]

No one should criticize Israel for its desire to remain a Jewish state.

Hear tell, about 25% of the population are non-Jewish. That's fine. Am sure that they are lovely people.

But Israel looks at the ethnic, uh, unpleasantness in the United States and says, "We will pass, thank you."

So it's fine, I feel, if Israel peacefully and gently asks non-Jewish people who are currently living in Israel if they will be nice enough to find another home.

For example, some perfectly lovely people from sub-Sahara Africa are in Israel. The Israeli government has offered them generous financial incentives to leave. Israel, hear tell, has even offered to help them emigrate to a welcoming European nation.

"Apartheid"? That is just a word.

Israel is determined to NOT become another United States.

Can you blame it?

Loved that, and I'm not even Jewish.

 

[Quasar44]

That's because they're leftists first, and Jews second. Religion and Marxism are as incompatible as Catholicism and abortion.

Jews in Israel are nationalist
Jews in America are Bolsheviks

 

[JGalt]

Where did the Scofield influence come from?

What's a Scofield?

Oh right.

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[Quasar44]

Loved that, and I'm not even Jewish.

Why are Jews small ??

 

[surada]

What's a Scofield?

Oh right.

1875 SCHOFIELD 2° MOD. | Uberti Replicas | Top quality firearms replicas from 1959

A Christian heresy from the 1830. It's become popular since the prophet Hal Lindsey.

 

[JGalt]

A Christian heresy from the 1830. It's become popular since the prophet Hal Lindsey.

No idea. But I did look up Hal Lindsey, and he does make sense to me.

“The Jews became a victim of their own success. The more they restored the land and made it fertile, the more Muslims were attracted from nearby Muslim countries and flocked to Jewish-settled areas for jobs. These same poor Muslims who benefited from Jewish-created jobs later charged that the Jews had stolen land that had been in their families since time immemorial. This remains one of the most colossal lies of history. Yet the West has swallowed the lie hook, line, and sinker. This lie will eventually lead to Armageddon.”


“The Palestinians were deliberately forced into refugee camps by their fellow Muslims and not permitted to integrate in any way into the society of their unwilling hosts. Their own people didn’t even try to help them; instead they prevailed upon the United Nations and gullible Western charities to supply the refugees’ needs. They have been kept in these camps for more than sixty years—like an unhealed wound by their own people—just to be used as political pawns by Muslim negotiators to charge their plight as “Israeli aggression.”


“Since that time, Muslims have quoted the “Quraysh Model” as justification for deceptive treaties. This model means: “Negotiate ‘peace’ with your enemy until you become strong enough to annihilate him.” This is the justification Chairman Yasser Arafat quoted in Arabic to the Muslim world when he signed the Oslo Agreement. Muslims believe that no infidels really understand what the Quraysh Model means—and for the vast majority of non-Muslims, that is a correct assumption.”


“In truth, “Arab” terrorism in the Holy Land originated centuries before the recent tool of “the Palestinian cause was invented.” In towns where Jews lived for hundreds of years, those Jews were periodically robbed, raped, in some places massacred, and in many instances, the survivors were obliged to abandon their possessions and run. As we have seen, beginning with the Prophet Mohammad’s edict demanding racial purity—that “Two religions may not dwell together . . .”—the Arab-Muslim world codified its supremacist credo, and later that belief was interpreted liberally enough to allow many non-Muslim dhimmis, or infidels, to remain alive between onslaughts in the Muslim world as a means of revenue. The infidel’s head tax, in addition to other extortions—and the availability of the “non-believers” to act as helpless scapegoats for the oft-dissatisfied masses—became a highly useful mainstay to the Arab-Muslim rulers. Thus the pronouncement of the Prophet Mohammad was altered in practice to: two religions may not dwell together equally. That was the pragmatic interpretation.181 In the early seventeenth century, a pair of Christian visitors to Safed [Galilee] told of life for the Jews: “Life here is the poorest and most miserable that one can imagine.” Because of the harshness of Turkish rule and its crippling dhimmi oppression, the Jews “pay for the very air they breath”.182 Reports like these could be multiplied. The audacity of Haj Amin al-Husseini’s claim that the “Jews always did live previously in Arab countries with complete freedom and liberty, as natives of the country” and that, “in fact, Muslim rule has always been tolerant . . . according to history Jews had a most quiet and peaceful residence under Arab rule,” is shown to be a cynical lie. This simply shows that Haj al-Husseini learned a lot from his visit to Nazis Germany. Adolf Hitler, whom he greatly admired, developed the propaganda tactic of “the Big Lie.”

 

[surada]

No idea. But I did look up Hal Lindsey, and he does make sense to me.

“The Jews became a victim of their own success. The more they restored the land and made it fertile, the more Muslims were attracted from nearby Muslim countries and flocked to Jewish-settled areas for jobs. These same poor Muslims who benefited from Jewish-created jobs later charged that the Jews had stolen land that had been in their families since time immemorial. This remains one of the most colossal lies of history. Yet the West has swallowed the lie hook, line, and sinker. This lie will eventually lead to Armageddon.”


“The Palestinians were deliberately forced into refugee camps by their fellow Muslims and not permitted to integrate in any way into the society of their unwilling hosts. Their own people didn’t even try to help them; instead they prevailed upon the United Nations and gullible Western charities to supply the refugees’ needs. They have been kept in these camps for more than sixty years—like an unhealed wound by their own people—just to be used as political pawns by Muslim negotiators to charge their plight as “Israeli aggression.”


“Since that time, Muslims have quoted the “Quraysh Model” as justification for deceptive treaties. This model means: “Negotiate ‘peace’ with your enemy until you become strong enough to annihilate him.” This is the justification Chairman Yasser Arafat quoted in Arabic to the Muslim world when he signed the Oslo Agreement. Muslims believe that no infidels really understand what the Quraysh Model means—and for the vast majority of non-Muslims, that is a correct assumption.”


“In truth, “Arab” terrorism in the Holy Land originated centuries before the recent tool of “the Palestinian cause was invented.” In towns where Jews lived for hundreds of years, those Jews were periodically robbed, raped, in some places massacred, and in many instances, the survivors were obliged to abandon their possessions and run. As we have seen, beginning with the Prophet Mohammad’s edict demanding racial purity—that “Two religions may not dwell together . . .”—the Arab-Muslim world codified its supremacist credo, and later that belief was interpreted liberally enough to allow many non-Muslim dhimmis, or infidels, to remain alive between onslaughts in the Muslim world as a means of revenue. The infidel’s head tax, in addition to other extortions—and the availability of the “non-believers” to act as helpless scapegoats for the oft-dissatisfied masses—became a highly useful mainstay to the Arab-Muslim rulers. Thus the pronouncement of the Prophet Mohammad was altered in practice to: two religions may not dwell together equally. That was the pragmatic interpretation.181 In the early seventeenth century, a pair of Christian visitors to Safed [Galilee] told of life for the Jews: “Life here is the poorest and most miserable that one can imagine.” Because of the harshness of Turkish rule and its crippling dhimmi oppression, the Jews “pay for the very air they breath”.182 Reports like these could be multiplied. The audacity of Haj Amin al-Husseini’s claim that the “Jews always did live previously in Arab countries with complete freedom and liberty, as natives of the country” and that, “in fact, Muslim rule has always been tolerant . . . according to history Jews had a most quiet and peaceful residence under Arab rule,” is shown to be a cynical lie. This simply shows that Haj al-Husseini learned a lot from his visit to Nazis Germany. Adolf Hitler, whom he greatly admired, developed the propaganda tactic of “the Big Lie.”

Hal Lindsey is a charlatan and a liar.

Demographics of Historic Palestine prior to 1948

www.cjpme.org

 

[JGalt]

Hal Lindsey is a charlatan and a liar.

Demographics of Historic Palestine prior to 1948

www.cjpme.org

Yeah, right. Like I'm gonna believe a Canadian leftist organization like CJPME.

Robert Fulford: The ‘rabid’ rage of Israel’s enemies

Hell, the CJPME leader Dimitri Lascaris was once condemned by Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau or all people, for making “vile antisemitic smears.”

Watchdog Urges UN Chief to Condemn Palestine Rep's 'Racist Ties' - UN Watch

I don't have to research CJPME any further to know what they're about.

 

[Batcat]

I've found that getting into debates over hypothetical scenarios is a frustrating endeavor which doesn't resolve anything and no has discernible ending.

Excellent wording. You might easily make it big time as a politician.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Most every Christian church believes that Israel has every right to exist. They feel an affinity with the Jews because Jesus Himself was a Jew., and we both share the same Old Testament.

Why did you leave out the most important part?

The part about the chosen tribe?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I have no problem with Jewish nationalism.

Right, because it's a religion you don't mind and because it doesn't affect you. So you don't mind religious States, when the people kind of look and think like you. I wouldn't be so proud of such a thing.

 

[surada]

Yeah, right. Like I'm gonna believe a Canadian leftist organization like CJPME.

Robert Fulford: The ‘rabid’ rage of Israel’s enemies

Hell, the CJPME leader Dimitri Lascaris was once condemned by Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau or all people, for making “vile antisemitic smears.”

Watchdog Urges UN Chief to Condemn Palestine Rep's 'Racist Ties' - UN Watch

I don't have to research CJPME any further to know what they're about.

Then read the Ottoman census of 1870.

Demographics of Historic Palestine prior to 1948

www.cjpme.org

 

[Sunni Man]

Excellent wording.

Thank you! ...