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Matthew 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
After Jesus' atonement and resurrection Jesus taught:
3 Nephi 12:48
48 Therefore I would that ye should be perfect even as I, or your Father who is in heaven is perfect.
there are reasons for the errant desert religions ... where is that known.
Was he just a show off or did he actually feel subservient to the universe? "Just wait, I'll show you!"The reason for sin is due to the power of choice, as you stated in your OP.
God knew it would happen, and He had a plan to deal w/it, to show the universe that He truly is love.
prove it.
I agree that God is all powerful, all knowing, and an all good being. What I don't believe is that God is all powerful in that he can do absolutely anything imaginable. I believe that there are things that are possible and things that are impossible on an eternal scale. God is all powerful in that he can do all things that are possible to do in the eternities. Things that I believe are impossible even for God are things like:
Can God be a being who has all power and no power simultaneously?
Can God be a being who has all knowledge and no knowledge simultaneously?
Can God be an all good being and simultaneously be an all evil being?
Can God exist and not exist simultaneously?
Can God create that which is self-existent?
I don't believe that God creates ex nihilo or from nothing.
I personally believe that if you can believe God is capable doing the above, then you must fall victim to the argument of the Problem of Evil. So if you don't believe what I believe, then give me your response to my original post and tell me why a benevolent God would allow evil and why God, being all powerful, did not simply create you to be perfect like himself from the beginning and not make you imperfect and subject to sin and evil as you are now.
How is Genesis 1:1 proof of heresy? Sorry, Not Proof!Genesis 1:1
Yes I do.Well you also believe God is married....so.....
At this point, your beliefs are a hodgepodge of what grifter Joseph Smith made up. And it shows. It's a mess frankly. I'm sorry, but there it is.
Has God ever spoken of His wife in scripture?Yes I do.
Not directly, but in an indirect way he has let us know that He has a wife. It has been revealed that whomsoever is exalted in the Celestial Kingdom of God must enter into marriage and have that marriage sealed by one having authority to seal on earth and in heaven in order to have a continuation of the seeds. God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ are exalted beings in the Celestial Kingdom of God and have a continuation of the seeds. Thus they of a necessity must be sealed to a wife. We, as the children of God, are evidence that the Father is exalted and has a continuation of the seeds.Has God ever spoken of His wife in scripture?
Yeah.........presenting a TABLE proves everything.........NOT.
Claiming something and proving it are 2 different things. Simply present the experiment where man begins with Hydrogen and Helium and ends with every known element in the Universe and the experiment that proves these elements EVOLVED into solid matter and that dead matter evolved into biological life. Proceeed. Show us these experiments.
With each Biblical character, all being human, I present a question for each one of them to answer about themselves: In this life, what is in it for me? Jesus stands alone in the answer of, "There is nothing for me, but doing the will of the Father." He taught this lesson to the Apostles.Not directly, but in an indirect way he has let us know that He has a wife. It has been revealed that whomsoever is exalted in the Celestial Kingdom of God must enter into marriage and have that marriage sealed by one having authority to seal in heaven in order to have a continuation of the seeds. God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ are exalted beings in the Celestial Kingdom of God and have a continuation of the seeds. Thus they of a necessity must be sealed to a wife. We as the children of God are evidence that the Father is exalted and has a continuation of the seeds.
If you knew what Joseph Smith's life was like, you probably wouldn't think he gain much at all in this life. He was persecuted all through his life after proclaiming his visions and revelations. You can read about some of these at this link: Joseph Smith - Persecution. Eventually at the age of 38 Joseph Smith while being incarcerated was attacked by a mob and shot and killed along with his brother.With each Biblical character, all being human, I present a question for each one of them to answer about themselves: In this life, what is in it for me? Jesus stands alone in the answer of, "There is nothing for me, but doing the will of the Father." He taught this lesson to the Apostles.
In everything Mr. Smith did, there was not only something for him, but a lot for him, which is why it is difficult for many of us to give credence to his claims. Jesus dismissed the ideal of marriage in heaven. As the person who noted he was one with the Father it seems unlikely he would casually dismiss marriage.
That is just my take on it. I do appreciate your explanation of the LDS take.
How is Genesis 1:1 proof of heresy? Sorry, Not Proof!
Yes I do.
Not what Joseph Smith made up but what was revealed to him by God. So, again what is your response to the problems of evil?
That verse doesn't say anything about the teachings of Jesus Christ either. So is Jesus a heretic in your eyes as well?"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
Doesn't say anything about man's intelligence or whatever Joseph Smith imagined
Your opinion only. What exactly do you surmise that he lied about?He was a false prophet. We can know this by all the lies in which he was caught.
That verse doesn't say anything about the teachings of Jesus Christ either. So is Jesus a heretic in your eyes as well?
Jesus Christ is fully capable of revealing his gospel to anyone he chooses. Even Joseph Smith. How is he a scourge on well-meaning people?????I'm sorry that you don't hold the teachings of Jesus Christ as primary over your cult leader. Joseph Smith was and is a scourge on well-meaning people. That's all.
Jesus Christ has "already" revealed His gospel to "everyone"...........and that revelation occured in the 1st century A.D., not in the early 19th century.Jesus Christ is fully capable of revealing his gospel to anyone he chooses. Even Joseph Smith. How is he a scourge on well-meaning people?????
