The Proper Usage Of The Term 'Fascism'

[Tax Man]

Fascism…..the all-purpose invective.

Remember Rule #1: whatever the Left claims about the other side, that’s what they are guilty of.

Which brings us to the terms ‘fascism,’ and ‘fascist.’

Just yesterday, the dolt Paul Krugman, in what used to be a newspaper, claimed America was ready to be fascist because of Trump. Opinion | Why It Can Happen Here

See what I mean in Rule #1?





1.In his scholarly exegesis on Mussolini, David Ramsay Steele points out how ‘fascism’ is often used simply as a synonym for ‘I hate you.’

“More broadly, fascism may be defined as any totalitarian regime which does not aim at the nationalization of industry but preserves at least nominal private property. The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call if "fascism."]

When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.’
“The Mystery of Fascism”

by David Ramsay Steele
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele


"fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures.....such as Trump.



2. Well known liar, FDR, used it that way, and hatched a lie about successful business folks, and Republicans, based on a bogus definition of ‘fascist.’

He hated successful businessmen, and took every opportunity to lie about them and slander them, and by extension, Republicans.
Here he makes up a definition of fascism designed to indict entrepreneurs:


“The outfirst truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Message to Congress on Curbing Monopolies.



3. No it isn’t.

That’s not what fascism is. It is the unchecked growth of government power.

“Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.” Fascism - Wikipedia


For a more contemporary application of the term 'Fascism,'...
...the collective over the individual, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


Notice how it applies to Liberalism?

You use the Goebbels play book very well.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I said fascism is Capitalist DICTATORSHIP, idiot.

And EVERYBODY says you're wrong, dumb fuck.

 

[francoHFW]

I said fascism is Capitalist DICTATORSHIP, idiot.

And EVERYBODY says you're wrong, dumb fuck.

Did you see the definition? You people are so brainwashed you can't learn a thing.

 

[francoHFW]

I said fascism is Capitalist DICTATORSHIP, idiot.

And EVERYBODY says you're wrong, dumb fuck.

Did you see the definition? You people are so brainwashed you can't learn a thing.

I will put up my masters in history against your Masters is b******* propaganda, Super Dupe. For America. 25% of the country is brainwashed. At least.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's this new Theory of right wing BS called liberal fascism, started in 2004 with a book. Absolute idiocy. So they have a new political Spectrum, where on the right you have conservativism and freedom and on the left you have dictatorship whether communist or fascist/capitalist. Absolute garbage propaganda, but on the internet the GOP brainwashed put it up so many times you could think it is serious. That is called propaganda.

Perhaps you'd care to explain the Liberal attempts to stifle free speech?


BTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.


Why don't you challenge me to prove that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's this new Theory of right wing BS called liberal fascism, started in 2004 with a book. Absolute idiocy. So they have a new political Spectrum, where on the right you have conservativism and freedom and on the left you have dictatorship whether communist or fascist/capitalist. Absolute garbage propaganda, but on the internet the GOP brainwashed put it up so many times you could think it is serious. That is called propaganda.

PC tends to just regurgitate what she's been told to think. Which is why her arguments tend to degrade when you pull her off her 'script'.

Her 'script' involves ignoring what fascism actually is, what its defining characteristics are. And then imagining that these cartoon simplification that ignores virtually the whole of fascism is the definition.

Alas, no. And merely pointing this fact out causes PC's argument to collapse.

I don't have 'arguments'....I simply reveal the truth.



Here is a little exercise, a quiz, which puts the various political perspectives in context.

Nazism, communism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism, and fascism....

1. The thesis of communism can be summarized in one sentence: the abolition of private property.

Which of the six also reflect the thesis of Karl Marx?

2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism


Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?


Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Fascists understood nearly a century ago, that Capitalism, and Jews sell out to the Liberal agenda.

Indeed, look at Capitalist Jews in Hollywood, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, New York Times, Facebook, Youtube, the ACLU, the ADL etc. who wield their power to promote the Liberal agenda.

But, Republicans don't get it, they are a lot more dumb than the Fascists were.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Just to add to the thread, here's one of our own discussing the topic of fascism. This was a few years ago down in DC. A few minutes from a more lengthier presentation. About three minutes, but fascism defined rather short and concisely.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just to add to the thread, here's one of our own discussing the topic of fascism. This was a few years ago down in DC. A few minutes from a more lengthier presentation. About three minutes, but fascism defined rather short and concisely.

D.R.Steele said something similar, here:

When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.’
“The Mystery of Fascism”

by David Ramsay Steele
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele


"fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures.....such as Trump.

 

[francoHFW]

It's this new Theory of right wing BS called liberal fascism, started in 2004 with a book. Absolute idiocy. So they have a new political Spectrum, where on the right you have conservativism and freedom and on the left you have dictatorship whether communist or fascist/capitalist. Absolute garbage propaganda, but on the internet the GOP brainwashed put it up so many times you could think it is serious. That is called propaganda.

PC tends to just regurgitate what she's been told to think. Which is why her arguments tend to degrade when you pull her off her 'script'.

Her 'script' involves ignoring what fascism actually is, what its defining characteristics are. And then imagining that these cartoon simplification that ignores virtually the whole of fascism is the definition.

Alas, no. And merely pointing this fact out causes PC's argument to collapse.

I don't have 'arguments'....I simply reveal the truth.



Here is a little exercise, a quiz, which puts the various political perspectives in context.

Nazism, communism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism, and fascism....

1. The thesis of communism can be summarized in one sentence: the abolition of private property.

Which of the six also reflect the thesis of Karl Marx?

2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism


Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?


Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Actually, Super Dupe, progressivism and liberalism.

 

[Siete]

Fascism…..the all-purpose invective.

Remember Rule #1: whatever the Left claims about the other side, that’s what they are guilty of.

Which brings us to the terms ‘fascism,’ and ‘fascist.’

Just yesterday, the dolt Paul Krugman, in what used to be a newspaper, claimed America was ready to be fascist because of Trump. Opinion | Why It Can Happen Here

See what I mean in Rule #1?





1.In his scholarly exegesis on Mussolini, David Ramsay Steele points out how ‘fascism’ is often used simply as a synonym for ‘I hate you.’

“More broadly, fascism may be defined as any totalitarian regime which does not aim at the nationalization of industry but preserves at least nominal private property. The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call if "fascism."]

When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.’
“The Mystery of Fascism”

by David Ramsay Steele
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele


"fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures.....such as Trump.



2. Well known liar, FDR, used it that way, and hatched a lie about successful business folks, and Republicans, based on a bogus definition of ‘fascist.’

He hated successful businessmen, and took every opportunity to lie about them and slander them, and by extension, Republicans.
Here he makes up a definition of fascism designed to indict entrepreneurs:


“The outfirst truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=15637



3. No it isn’t.

That’s not what fascism is. It is the unchecked growth of government power.

“Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.” Fascism - Wikipedia


For a more contemporary application of the term 'Fascism,'...
...the collective over the individual, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


Notice how it applies to Liberalism?

so why does an opinion piece about a definition belong in the politics forum ?

oh yeah, I know, you're trolling again.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's this new Theory of right wing BS called liberal fascism, started in 2004 with a book. Absolute idiocy. So they have a new political Spectrum, where on the right you have conservativism and freedom and on the left you have dictatorship whether communist or fascist/capitalist. Absolute garbage propaganda, but on the internet the GOP brainwashed put it up so many times you could think it is serious. That is called propaganda.

PC tends to just regurgitate what she's been told to think. Which is why her arguments tend to degrade when you pull her off her 'script'.

Her 'script' involves ignoring what fascism actually is, what its defining characteristics are. And then imagining that these cartoon simplification that ignores virtually the whole of fascism is the definition.

Alas, no. And merely pointing this fact out causes PC's argument to collapse.

I don't have 'arguments'....I simply reveal the truth.



Here is a little exercise, a quiz, which puts the various political perspectives in context.

Nazism, communism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism, and fascism....

1. The thesis of communism can be summarized in one sentence: the abolition of private property.

Which of the six also reflect the thesis of Karl Marx?

2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism


Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?


Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Actually, Super Dupe, progressivism and liberalism.

Question:
How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?


Give an answer which would immediately identify you as a total imbecile:
"progressivism and liberalism"


And the crowd goes wild!!!!

 

[francoHFW]

It's this new Theory of right wing BS called liberal fascism, started in 2004 with a book. Absolute idiocy. So they have a new political Spectrum, where on the right you have conservativism and freedom and on the left you have dictatorship whether communist or fascist/capitalist. Absolute garbage propaganda, but on the internet the GOP brainwashed put it up so many times you could think it is serious. That is called propaganda.

PC tends to just regurgitate what she's been told to think. Which is why her arguments tend to degrade when you pull her off her 'script'.

Her 'script' involves ignoring what fascism actually is, what its defining characteristics are. And then imagining that these cartoon simplification that ignores virtually the whole of fascism is the definition.

Alas, no. And merely pointing this fact out causes PC's argument to collapse.

I don't have 'arguments'....I simply reveal the truth.



Here is a little exercise, a quiz, which puts the various political perspectives in context.

Nazism, communism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism, and fascism....

1. The thesis of communism can be summarized in one sentence: the abolition of private property.

Which of the six also reflect the thesis of Karl Marx?

2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism


Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?


Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Actually, Super Dupe, progressivism and liberalism.

Question:
How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?


Give an answer which would immediately identify you as a total imbecile:
"progressivism and liberalism"


And the crowd goes wild!!!!

The progressive and liberal founding fathers where the first to enshrine Religious Freedom and separation of church and state, dumbass.

 

[francoHFW]

The really amusing thing is that moonbats like Krugman act as though all this "fascism" that they're in mortal fear of, just sprung into being out of nowhere on 20 Jan, 2017

it's the "communist!" of the 50s.

With all the brainwashed GOP voters, communist is still the communist of the 1950's. And of course socialism is communism. So ignorant...

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's this new Theory of right wing BS called liberal fascism, started in 2004 with a book. Absolute idiocy. So they have a new political Spectrum, where on the right you have conservativism and freedom and on the left you have dictatorship whether communist or fascist/capitalist. Absolute garbage propaganda, but on the internet the GOP brainwashed put it up so many times you could think it is serious. That is called propaganda.

PC tends to just regurgitate what she's been told to think. Which is why her arguments tend to degrade when you pull her off her 'script'.

Her 'script' involves ignoring what fascism actually is, what its defining characteristics are. And then imagining that these cartoon simplification that ignores virtually the whole of fascism is the definition.

Alas, no. And merely pointing this fact out causes PC's argument to collapse.

I don't have 'arguments'....I simply reveal the truth.



Here is a little exercise, a quiz, which puts the various political perspectives in context.

Nazism, communism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism, and fascism....

1. The thesis of communism can be summarized in one sentence: the abolition of private property.

Which of the six also reflect the thesis of Karl Marx?

2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism


Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?


Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Actually, Super Dupe, progressivism and liberalism.

Question:
How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?


Give an answer which would immediately identify you as a total imbecile:
"progressivism and liberalism"


And the crowd goes wild!!!!

The progressive and liberal founding fathers where the first to enshrine Religious Freedom and separation of church and state, dumbass.

"The progressive and liberal founding fathers where the first to enshrine Religious Freedom and separation of church and state,"


Correction.
The Founders were classical liberals, what are called conservatives today.

They believed in individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.



Communist John Dewey prevailed on the Socialist Party to assume the title 'Liberal,' and that is the current Liberal/Progressive/Democrat, based on the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


How can you possibly be so stupid, yet claim you've gone to college?????

 

[karpenter]

Anyone Read This Imbedded NWO Link In Krugman's Op-Ed ??
Nations in Transit 2018: Confronting Illiberalism

They Are Alarmed At The Rise Of 'Illiberalism'

 

[karpenter]

20. “Obama: 'I Didn't Have Scandals.'
I Think The Original Quote Was:
'I Didn't Have Any Scandals To Be Ashamed Of''

It's All In The Nuance, Folks

Also, From The OP
Leftists Like To Include 'Extreme Nationalism'
In Their Definition
As If That Is An Automatic Bad Thing
Well, It's Bad If You're A Commie Globalist

I Always Point Out
It Took A Healthy Dose Of Extreme Nationalism
To Crush The Fascists Of WWII

 

[Skylar]

It's this new Theory of right wing BS called liberal fascism, started in 2004 with a book. Absolute idiocy. So they have a new political Spectrum, where on the right you have conservativism and freedom and on the left you have dictatorship whether communist or fascist/capitalist. Absolute garbage propaganda, but on the internet the GOP brainwashed put it up so many times you could think it is serious. That is called propaganda.

Perhaps you'd care to explain the Liberal attempts to stifle free speech?


BTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.


Why don't you challenge me to prove that.

Um.....what, Alex Jones' facebook ban?

And again, you ignore Dictatorship in fascism.

You ignore the forcible suppression of opposition in fascism (spoiler alert....not a facebook ban)

You ignore the belligerant nationalism of fascism.

You ignore the regimenation of the economy and society under fascism.

And you ignore the state sponsored racism that is so often a part of fascism.

You've literally ignored *every* defining tenet of fascism. And then laughably pretend to tell us how to 'properly' use a term you have no comprehension of.

As I've said, you simply have no idea of what you're talking about.

 

[Skylar]

Anyone Read This Imbedded NWO Link In Krugman's Op-Ed ??
Nations in Transit 2018: Confronting Illiberalism

They Are Alarmed At The Rise Of 'Illiberalism'

NWO? Now you're citing the New World Order conspiracy?

Its like batshit whack-a-mole.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Anyone Read This Imbedded NWO Link In Krugman's Op-Ed ??
Nations in Transit 2018: Confronting Illiberalism

They Are Alarmed At The Rise Of 'Illiberalism'

Krugman said America was going to be Hungary....
...do you agree?


Speaking of Illiberalism...

I hope you've read it.