The Proper Usage Of The Term 'Fascism'

[Mac1958]

YOAR A FASCIST

NO YOAR A FACIST

 

[PoliticalChic]

She ignores every defining characteristic of fascism. And makes up her own definition.

No
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not

Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.

Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.

As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.

Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.

Good luck with that.

Dictionary definition of 'fascism':

Dictionary.com

. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.​

The Free Dictionary:

Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control​

Merriam-Webster

Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control​

De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.

On the other hand. . .

--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .

--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .

-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .

--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.

are all traits of fascism.

We were far closer to fascism in our past than we are now. We used to have far more strictly regimented social norms, with say.....homosexuality being criminalized. We had slavery with the 'lesser' races stripped of rights. We inforced anti-interracial marriage laws. Segregation created strict social regimentation. With those who violated them imprisoned or killed. Massive monopolies that controlled entire industries. The US was more prone to belligerent nationalism with wars of expansion killing entire native populations.

And in virtually every example, these were tenets observed and defended by conservatives.

Our society has abandoned its more fascist characteristics as we've embraced a world view that is more liberal. Gay marriage is now recognized. The decriminalization of homosexuality was overturned. Slavery is gone. Jim Crow laws are gone. Segregation is gone. Monopolies have been broken up. Belligerent nationalism has been diluted. There's far greater avenues of expression (though arguably, that's more a product of technology than any particular political philosophy).

We have a much freer society with less social regimentation, more competition, more expression, more diversity. And at every step, conservatives fought those changes. And as the current push for more aggressive nationalism, demonstrates.....fought to return to some of our past where we had more fascist-like characteristics.

Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. Its a characteristic of virtually every type of organized government. There's a reason why its not mentioned in any definition. Making its addition in your imaginary definition useless.

The USA, courtesy of the Obama administration and the TDS phenomenon has us closer to fascism than ANYTHING the USA has seen in the past. Algorithms that discriminate, a media that is mostly in the hip pocket of one political party, people and their employers, advertisers, suppliers, customers etc. being banned or attacked for not being properly left of center or expressing a politically incorrect opinion, and specific groups singled out as 'victims' and others singled out as oppressing the 'victims' are all characteristics of fascism.

Since the Fascists have taken over the Democrat Party, it is rare that real Liberals, put the Fascists in their place....as Ms. Powers does here:

"On campuses there are speech codes, ...."free speech zones," and a host of "anti-discrimination" policies that discriminate against people who dissent from lefty groupthink. Christian and conservative groups have been denied official university status by student government organizations for holding views not in line with liberal dogma.

The illiberal left's attempts to control the public debate are frequently buttressed by a parade of childish grievances. They portray life's vagaries as violations of their basic human rights and demand the world stop traumatizing them..."
Kirsten Powers, "The Silencing: How The Left Is Killing Free Speech"



Kristen Powers goes on, in her book, painting a picture of the Leftists/Liberals as opponents of free speech:


...'...why not just tune out the views they don't like? They can't. They are authoritarians at heart; they know what Americans should think and what information they should consume....they launch petitions to have particular views censored ..."



Amen.

 

[Skylar]

I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....


16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20



--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .

Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.

With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.

None of which we have.

Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.

--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .

Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.

We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.

You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.

-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .

Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.

--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.

Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.

The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.

Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.

Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:

Dictatorship.

Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.

Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.

And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.

Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.

It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.

It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.

It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.

It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.


Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.

Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.

Listen to Rush or watch Fox in primetime and you will see some scary equivalents.

Will I? Rush and most of the hosts of Fox news magazines are pro smaller government, pro deregulation, pro states rights, pro individual liberty, pro people being allowed to keep as much as possible of what they earn and live their lives as they choose--all precisely the opposite of fascism.

In an *actual* fascist government, those opposing the government would be silenced through execution and imprisonment.

The existence and propagation of view points opposed to the government's actions are literal demonstrations of the absurdity of your argument. And how utterly confused you are on what fascism actually is.

And taxation has *nothing* to do with Fascism. But its central to your imaginary definition.

 

[francoHFW]

I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....


16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20



--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .

Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.

With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.

None of which we have.

Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.

--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .

Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.

We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.

You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.

-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .

Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.

--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.

Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.

The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.

Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.

Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:

Dictatorship.

Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.

Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.

And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.

Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.

It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.

It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.

It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.

It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.


Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.

Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.

Listen to Rush or watch Fox in primetime and you will see some scary equivalents.

Will I? Rush and most of the hosts of Fox news magazines are pro smaller government, pro deregulation, pro states rights, pro individual liberty, pro people being allowed to keep as much as possible of what they earn and live their lives as they choose--all precisely the opposite of fascism.

Actually they are owned by the greedy idiot GOP rich who have wrecked the middle class and the country the last 35 years. Great job scumbag GOP and silly dupes like you. We have the worst inequality and upward Mobility in our history after 35 years of GOP give away to the rich. Thanks also for allowing 9/11 through Sheer incompetence, the stupidest Wars ever and Wrecking the middle East, and destroying the world economy. Great job! Everyone in the world knows it but you brainwashed functional morons.

 

[PoliticalChic]

YOAR A FASCIST

NO YOAR A FACIST

Fence-sitter checking in.

 

[Skylar]

No
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not

Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.

Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.

As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.

Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.

Good luck with that.

Dictionary definition of 'fascism':

Dictionary.com

. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.​

The Free Dictionary:

Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control​

Merriam-Webster

Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control​

De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.

On the other hand. . .

--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .

--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .

-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .

--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.

are all traits of fascism.

We were far closer to fascism in our past than we are now. We used to have far more strictly regimented social norms, with say.....homosexuality being criminalized. We had slavery with the 'lesser' races stripped of rights. We inforced anti-interracial marriage laws. Segregation created strict social regimentation. With those who violated them imprisoned or killed. Massive monopolies that controlled entire industries. The US was more prone to belligerent nationalism with wars of expansion killing entire native populations.

And in virtually every example, these were tenets observed and defended by conservatives.

Our society has abandoned its more fascist characteristics as we've embraced a world view that is more liberal. Gay marriage is now recognized. The decriminalization of homosexuality was overturned. Slavery is gone. Jim Crow laws are gone. Segregation is gone. Monopolies have been broken up. Belligerent nationalism has been diluted. There's far greater avenues of expression (though arguably, that's more a product of technology than any particular political philosophy).

We have a much freer society with less social regimentation, more competition, more expression, more diversity. And at every step, conservatives fought those changes. And as the current push for more aggressive nationalism, demonstrates.....fought to return to some of our past where we had more fascist-like characteristics.

Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. Its a characteristic of virtually every type of organized government. There's a reason why its not mentioned in any definition. Making its addition in your imaginary definition useless.

The USA, courtesy of the Obama administration and the TDS phenomenon has us closer to fascism than ANYTHING the USA has seen in the past. Algorithms that discriminate, a media that is mostly in the hip pocket of one political party, people and their employers, advertisers, suppliers, customers etc. being banned or attacked for not being properly left of center or expressing a politically incorrect opinion, and specific groups singled out as 'victims' and others singled out as oppressing the 'victims' are all characteristics of fascism.

Since the Fascists have taken over the Democrat Party, it is rare that real Liberals, put the Fascists in their place....as Ms. Powers does here:

"On campuses there are speech codes, ...."free speech zones," and a host of "anti-discrimination" policies that discriminate against people who dissent from lefty groupthink. Christian and conservative groups have been denied official university status by student government organizations for holding views not in line with liberal dogma.

The illiberal left's attempts to control the public debate are frequently buttressed by a parade of childish grievances. They portray life's vagaries as violations of their basic human rights and demand the world stop traumatizing them..."
Kirsten Powers, "The Silencing: How The Left Is Killing Free Speech"



Kristen Powers goes on, in her book, painting a picture of the Leftists/Liberals as opponents of free speech:


...'...why not just tune out the views they don't like? They can't. They are authoritarians at heart; they know what Americans should think and what information they should consume....they launch petitions to have particular views censored ..."



Amen.

With the existence and sale of the book being yet another demonstration of the absurdity of your argument. As in *actual* fascism opposition is silenced through execution and imprisonment. Their books are burned. Intellectuals and artists are put into camps.

In your imaginary definition of fascism, the opposition goes on a book tour. And brags about how many sales they get on Amazon.

Sorry, PC......but you simply don't know what fascism is.

 

[Mac1958]

YOAR A FASCIST

NO YOAR A FACIST

Fence-sitter checking in.

 

[francoHFW]

No
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not

Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.

Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.

As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.

Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.

Good luck with that.

Dictionary definition of 'fascism':

Dictionary.com

. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.​

The Free Dictionary:

Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control​

Merriam-Webster

Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control​

De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.

On the other hand. . .

--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .

--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .

-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .

--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.

are all traits of fascism.

We were far closer to fascism in our past than we are now. We used to have far more strictly regimented social norms, with say.....homosexuality being criminalized. We had slavery with the 'lesser' races stripped of rights. We inforced anti-interracial marriage laws. Segregation created strict social regimentation. With those who violated them imprisoned or killed. Massive monopolies that controlled entire industries. The US was more prone to belligerent nationalism with wars of expansion killing entire native populations.

And in virtually every example, these were tenets observed and defended by conservatives.

Our society has abandoned its more fascist characteristics as we've embraced a world view that is more liberal. Gay marriage is now recognized. The decriminalization of homosexuality was overturned. Slavery is gone. Jim Crow laws are gone. Segregation is gone. Monopolies have been broken up. Belligerent nationalism has been diluted. There's far greater avenues of expression (though arguably, that's more a product of technology than any particular political philosophy).

We have a much freer society with less social regimentation, more competition, more expression, more diversity. And at every step, conservatives fought those changes. And as the current push for more aggressive nationalism, demonstrates.....fought to return to some of our past where we had more fascist-like characteristics.

Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. Its a characteristic of virtually every type of organized government. There's a reason why its not mentioned in any definition. Making its addition in your imaginary definition useless.

The USA, courtesy of the Obama administration and the TDS phenomenon has us closer to fascism than ANYTHING the USA has seen in the past. Algorithms that discriminate, a media that is mostly in the hip pocket of one political party, people and their employers, advertisers, suppliers, customers etc. being banned or attacked for not being properly left of center or expressing a politically incorrect opinion, and specific groups singled out as 'victims' and others singled out as oppressing the 'victims' are all characteristics of fascism.

Since the Fascists have taken over the Democrat Party, it is rare that real Liberals, put the Fascists in their place....as Ms. Powers does here:

"On campuses there are speech codes, ...."free speech zones," and a host of "anti-discrimination" policies that discriminate against people who dissent from lefty groupthink. Christian and conservative groups have been denied official university status by student government organizations for holding views not in line with liberal dogma.

The illiberal left's attempts to control the public debate are frequently buttressed by a parade of childish grievances. They portray life's vagaries as violations of their basic human rights and demand the world stop traumatizing them..."
Kirsten Powers, "The Silencing: How The Left Is Killing Free Speech"



Kristen Powers goes on, in her book, painting a picture of the Leftists/Liberals as opponents of free speech:


...'...why not just tune out the views they don't like? They can't. They are authoritarians at heart; they know what Americans should think and what information they should consume....they launch petitions to have particular views censored ..."



Amen.

In other words they don't like lies and have actual journalists on their side....

 

[Skylar]

YOAR A FASCIST

NO YOAR A FACIST

Fence-sitter checking in.

Or someone that recognizes the absurdity of using the term 'fascist' as a generic pejorative.

As fascism has an actual meaning: Dictatorship, belligerant nationalism, often state sanctioned racism, strict regimentation of all industry and society, forcible suppression of opposition.

None of which exists in the US (anymore, anyway). None of which is supported by democrat or republican.

You use the term 'fascist' like a 4 year old curses.......applied like you're calling someone a 'meanie' or a 'poopy head' with no connection to the term's actual meaning.

 

[Mac1958]

 

[karpenter]

In other words they don't like lies and have actual journalists on their side....

Except For When Protesters Assault The Press

A University of Missouri Professor Instigator
Called For Some Muscle
When An ESPN Crew Was Just Filming Them

Antifa Recently Attacked An NBC Crew

That's Physically Trying To Shut Down A Free Press
...Right ??

 

[Foxfyre]

I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....


16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20



--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .

Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.

With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.

None of which we have.

Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.

--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .

Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.

We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.

You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.

-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .

Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.

--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.

Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.

The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.

Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.

Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:

Dictatorship.

Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.

Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.

And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.

Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.

It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.

It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.

It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.

It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.


Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.

Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.

Perhaps you would care to define the difference between government regulation that has the force of law and government regimentation??? How is government regulation not regimentation that the Cambridge Dictionary defines as: "extreme organization and control of people."

You get shot in the head if the trains don't run on time in fascism.

To equate that with regulation is a demonstration of your ignorance. You simply don't know what you're talking about.

So would not more and more laws controlling our behavior and more and more regulation requiring or restricting certain behaviors not qualify as regimentation? If not, why not?

That would be the literal lynching, beatings by police, arrests for riding in the wrong part of the bus, mutilation of your body, or sale of your children.

Please don't try to equate slavery and segregation with a facebook ban. Its insulting. Most especially to you.

Obama and the Democrats decry any form of deregulation of almost anything and promote more and more regulation of just about everything in our daily lives. They wanted the government to control business more and dictate what business can and cannot do. They pretty well control what the media does and does not print as news. And they permit and too often condone group efforts to silence or punish somebody who expresses a politically incorrect opinion about anything. That is a very different thing than simply expressing one's contrary opinion or point of view.

That is getting very close to fascism.

Forcible suppression under fascism is being rounded up by the state and executed or imprisoned. Where you put intellectuals and artists into camps. Where the state shuts down newspapers that don't print the State News.

Not a Facebook ban. Or the media running a story you don't like.

There's no dictatorship, there's no belligerant nationalism, there's no forcible suppression of opposition, there's no state sanctioned racism, there's no strict regimentation of society and all industry. Nor is there advocacy of any such tenets by either party.

We were far, far closer to fascism in our past than we are now.

But tell us more about how 'taxation' is fascist. For the endorphins and giggles.

If that is what you got from my posts, I'm sorry. There really is no way to have a conversation with you. If you insist that one form of fascism is the only form of fascism, there really is no way to have a conversation with you. If you cannot be intellectually honest enough not to put words in my mouth or distort what I said there is really no way to have a conversation with you. I will refer you to my posts already made and wish you a pleasant evening.

 

[Foxfyre]

Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.

With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.

None of which we have.

Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.

Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.

We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.

You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.

Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.


Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.

The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.

Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.

Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:

Dictatorship.

Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.

Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.

And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.

Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.

It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.

It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.

It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.

It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.


Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.

Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.

Listen to Rush or watch Fox in primetime and you will see some scary equivalents.

Will I? Rush and most of the hosts of Fox news magazines are pro smaller government, pro deregulation, pro states rights, pro individual liberty, pro people being allowed to keep as much as possible of what they earn and live their lives as they choose--all precisely the opposite of fascism.

In an *actual* fascist government, those opposing the government would be silenced through execution and imprisonment.

The existence and propagation of view points opposed to the government's actions are literal demonstrations of the absurdity of your argument. And how utterly confused you are on what fascism actually is.

And taxation has *nothing* to do with Fascism. But its central to your imaginary definition.

Addressed in Post #152.

 

[caddo kid]

yep; a money grubbing whore from Eastern Europe. That's her.

 

[Skylar]

Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.

With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.

None of which we have.

Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.

Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.

We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.

You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.

Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.


Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.

The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.

Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.

Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:

Dictatorship.

Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.

Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.

And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.

Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.

It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.

It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.

It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.

It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.


Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.

Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.

Perhaps you would care to define the difference between government regulation that has the force of law and government regimentation??? How is government regulation not regimentation that the Cambridge Dictionary defines as: "extreme organization and control of people."

You get shot in the head if the trains don't run on time in fascism.

To equate that with regulation is a demonstration of your ignorance. You simply don't know what you're talking about.

So would not more and more laws controlling our behavior and more and more regulation requiring or restricting certain behaviors not qualify as regimentation? If not, why not?

That would be the literal lynching, beatings by police, arrests for riding in the wrong part of the bus, mutilation of your body, or sale of your children.

Please don't try to equate slavery and segregation with a facebook ban. Its insulting. Most especially to you.

Obama and the Democrats decry any form of deregulation of almost anything and promote more and more regulation of just about everything in our daily lives. They wanted the government to control business more and dictate what business can and cannot do. They pretty well control what the media does and does not print as news. And they permit and too often condone group efforts to silence or punish somebody who expresses a politically incorrect opinion about anything. That is a very different thing than simply expressing one's contrary opinion or point of view.

That is getting very close to fascism.

Forcible suppression under fascism is being rounded up by the state and executed or imprisoned. Where you put intellectuals and artists into camps. Where the state shuts down newspapers that don't print the State News.

Not a Facebook ban. Or the media running a story you don't like.

There's no dictatorship, there's no belligerant nationalism, there's no forcible suppression of opposition, there's no state sanctioned racism, there's no strict regimentation of society and all industry. Nor is there advocacy of any such tenets by either party.

We were far, far closer to fascism in our past than we are now.

But tell us more about how 'taxation' is fascist. For the endorphins and giggles.

If that is what you got from my posts, I'm sorry. There really is no way to have a conversation with you.

Yeah, I keep using the *actual* definitions of words. And citing what you actually said (ie, about taxation...which has nothing to do with fascism). And who could have a conversation about fascism with someone who won't just accept your imagination as fact? Or ignore any part of fascism that you find inconvenient.

Meanwhile, fascism involves dictatorship, belligerant nationalism, often state sanctioned racism, strict regimentation of all industry and society, and the forcible suppression of opposition.

None of which we have (anymore, anyway). None of which either republicans nor democrats advocate.

If you insist that one form of fascism is the only form of fascism, there really is no way to have a conversation with you. If you cannot be intellectually honest enough not to put words in my mouth or distort what I said there is really no way to have a conversation with you. I will refer you to my posts already made and wish you a pleasant evening.

You mean the *actual* definition of fascism rather than your imaginary version that for some bizarre reason involves taxation (never mentioned in any definition of fascism) but doesn't involve dictatorship (cited in every definition of fascism). And seemingly equates mass executions and internment camps with a facebook ban.

I'm so happy to disappoint you. As I'll keep using the actual meaning rather than whatever hapless nonsense you choose to invent.

As would any rational person.

 

[2aguy]

Fascism…..the all-purpose invective.

Remember Rule #1: whatever the Left claims about the other side, that’s what they are guilty of.

Which brings us to the terms ‘fascism,’ and ‘fascist.’

Just yesterday, the dolt Paul Krugman, in what used to be a newspaper, claimed America was ready to be fascist because of Trump. Opinion | Why It Can Happen Here

See what I mean in Rule #1?





1.In his scholarly exegesis on Mussolini, David Ramsay Steele points out how ‘fascism’ is often used simply as a synonym for ‘I hate you.’

“More broadly, fascism may be defined as any totalitarian regime which does not aim at the nationalization of industry but preserves at least nominal private property. The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call if "fascism."]

When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.’
“The Mystery of Fascism”

by David Ramsay Steele
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele


"fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures.....such as Trump.



2. Well known liar, FDR, used it that way, and hatched a lie about successful business folks, and Republicans, based on a bogus definition of ‘fascist.’

He hated successful businessmen, and took every opportunity to lie about them and slander them, and by extension, Republicans.
Here he makes up a definition of fascism designed to indict entrepreneurs:


“The outfirst truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Message to Congress on Curbing Monopolies.



3. No it isn’t.

That’s not what fascism is. It is the unchecked growth of government power.

“Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.” Fascism - Wikipedia


For a more contemporary application of the term 'Fascism,'...
...the collective over the individual, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


Notice how it applies to Liberalism?

The funny thing is that the leftards don't realize that mussolini, the guy who coined the term Fascism, was a marxist communist who was kicked out of the party..... so he started his own socialist movement.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fascism…..the all-purpose invective.

Remember Rule #1: whatever the Left claims about the other side, that’s what they are guilty of.

Which brings us to the terms ‘fascism,’ and ‘fascist.’

Just yesterday, the dolt Paul Krugman, in what used to be a newspaper, claimed America was ready to be fascist because of Trump. Opinion | Why It Can Happen Here

See what I mean in Rule #1?





1.In his scholarly exegesis on Mussolini, David Ramsay Steele points out how ‘fascism’ is often used simply as a synonym for ‘I hate you.’

“More broadly, fascism may be defined as any totalitarian regime which does not aim at the nationalization of industry but preserves at least nominal private property. The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call if "fascism."]

When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.’
“The Mystery of Fascism”

by David Ramsay Steele
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele


"fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures.....such as Trump.



2. Well known liar, FDR, used it that way, and hatched a lie about successful business folks, and Republicans, based on a bogus definition of ‘fascist.’

He hated successful businessmen, and took every opportunity to lie about them and slander them, and by extension, Republicans.
Here he makes up a definition of fascism designed to indict entrepreneurs:


“The outfirst truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Message to Congress on Curbing Monopolies.



3. No it isn’t.

That’s not what fascism is. It is the unchecked growth of government power.

“Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.” Fascism - Wikipedia


For a more contemporary application of the term 'Fascism,'...
...the collective over the individual, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


Notice how it applies to Liberalism?

The funny thing is that the leftards don't realize that mussolini, the guy who coined the term Fascism, was a marxist communist who was kicked out of the party..... so he started his own socialist movement.....

Nor do they realize the overall consubstantial basis of these six:
Fascism, Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Progressivism, and Nazism.


That' what a government school 'education' will do.

 

[Skylar]

Fascism…..the all-purpose invective.

Remember Rule #1: whatever the Left claims about the other side, that’s what they are guilty of.

Which brings us to the terms ‘fascism,’ and ‘fascist.’

Just yesterday, the dolt Paul Krugman, in what used to be a newspaper, claimed America was ready to be fascist because of Trump. Opinion | Why It Can Happen Here

See what I mean in Rule #1?





1.In his scholarly exegesis on Mussolini, David Ramsay Steele points out how ‘fascism’ is often used simply as a synonym for ‘I hate you.’

“More broadly, fascism may be defined as any totalitarian regime which does not aim at the nationalization of industry but preserves at least nominal private property. The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call if "fascism."]

When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.’
“The Mystery of Fascism”

by David Ramsay Steele
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele


"fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures.....such as Trump.



2. Well known liar, FDR, used it that way, and hatched a lie about successful business folks, and Republicans, based on a bogus definition of ‘fascist.’

He hated successful businessmen, and took every opportunity to lie about them and slander them, and by extension, Republicans.
Here he makes up a definition of fascism designed to indict entrepreneurs:


“The outfirst truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Message to Congress on Curbing Monopolies.



3. No it isn’t.

That’s not what fascism is. It is the unchecked growth of government power.

“Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.” Fascism - Wikipedia


For a more contemporary application of the term 'Fascism,'...
...the collective over the individual, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


Notice how it applies to Liberalism?

The funny thing is that the leftards don't realize that mussolini, the guy who coined the term Fascism, was a marxist communist who was kicked out of the party..... so he started his own socialist movement.....

Nor do they realize the overall consubstantial basis of these six:
Fascism, Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Progressivism, and Nazism.


That' what a government school 'education' will do.

Or.....'they' don't recognize your imagination as defining the meaning of words.

As you've ignored every defining characteristic of fascism in your definition of fascism: Dictatorship, belligerent nationalism, often state sanctioned racism, severe regimentation of all industry and society, forcible suppression of opposition.

If your argument had merit.....you wouldn't have ignore what fascism actually means.

 

[2aguy]

Fascism…..the all-purpose invective.

Remember Rule #1: whatever the Left claims about the other side, that’s what they are guilty of.

Which brings us to the terms ‘fascism,’ and ‘fascist.’

Just yesterday, the dolt Paul Krugman, in what used to be a newspaper, claimed America was ready to be fascist because of Trump. Opinion | Why It Can Happen Here

See what I mean in Rule #1?





1.In his scholarly exegesis on Mussolini, David Ramsay Steele points out how ‘fascism’ is often used simply as a synonym for ‘I hate you.’

“More broadly, fascism may be defined as any totalitarian regime which does not aim at the nationalization of industry but preserves at least nominal private property. The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call if "fascism."]

When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.’
“The Mystery of Fascism”

by David Ramsay Steele
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele


"fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures.....such as Trump.



2. Well known liar, FDR, used it that way, and hatched a lie about successful business folks, and Republicans, based on a bogus definition of ‘fascist.’

He hated successful businessmen, and took every opportunity to lie about them and slander them, and by extension, Republicans.
Here he makes up a definition of fascism designed to indict entrepreneurs:


“The outfirst truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Message to Congress on Curbing Monopolies.



3. No it isn’t.

That’s not what fascism is. It is the unchecked growth of government power.

“Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.” Fascism - Wikipedia


For a more contemporary application of the term 'Fascism,'...
...the collective over the individual, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


Notice how it applies to Liberalism?

The funny thing is that the leftards don't realize that mussolini, the guy who coined the term Fascism, was a marxist communist who was kicked out of the party..... so he started his own socialist movement.....

Nor do they realize the overall consubstantial basis of these six:
Fascism, Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Progressivism, and Nazism.


That' what a government school 'education' will do.

Or.....'they' don't recognize your imagination as defining the meaning of words.

As you've ignored every defining characteristic of fascism in your definition of fascism: Dictatorship, belligerent nationalism, often state sanctioned racism, severe regimentation of all industry and society, forcible suppression of opposition.

If your argument had merit.....you wouldn't have ignore what fascism actually means.

Wrong.... the definition of fascism is the state control of the means of production...that is socialism.