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It's this new Theory of right wing BS called liberal fascism, started in 2004 with a book. Absolute idiocy. So they have a new political Spectrum, where on the right you have conservativism and freedom and on the left you have dictatorship whether communist or fascist/capitalist. Absolute garbage propaganda, but on the internet the GOP brainwashed put it up so many times you could think it is serious. That is called propaganda.
Perhaps you'd care to explain the Liberal attempts to stifle free speech?
BTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.
Why don't you challenge me to prove that.
Um.....what, Alex Jones' facebook ban?
And again, you ignore Dictatorship in fascism.
You ignore the forcible suppression of opposition in fascism (spoiler alert....not a facebook ban)
You ignore the belligerant nationalism of fascism.
You ignore the regimenation of the economy and society under fascism.
And you ignore the state sponsored racism that is so often a part of fascism.
You've literally ignored *every* defining tenet of fascism. And then laughably pretend to tell us how to 'properly' use a term you have no comprehension of.
As I've said, you simply have no idea of what you're talking about.
BTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.
Why don't you challenge me to prove that.
She's another one of those Progs with over inflated ego.
Laughing....because I use the dictionary rather than your imagination.....I have an 'over inflated ego'?
I didn't know you were funny!
NoSkylar said:She ignores every defining characteristic of fascism. And makes up her own definition.
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not
Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
NoSkylar said:She ignores every defining characteristic of fascism. And makes up her own definition.
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not
Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
NoSkylar said:She ignores every defining characteristic of fascism. And makes up her own definition.
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not
Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
NoSkylar said:She ignores every defining characteristic of fascism. And makes up her own definition.
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not
Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
NoSkylar said:She ignores every defining characteristic of fascism. And makes up her own definition.
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not
Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.
With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.
None of which we have.
Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.
We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.
You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.
The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.
Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.
Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:
Dictatorship.
Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.
Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
NoSkylar said:She ignores every defining characteristic of fascism. And makes up her own definition.
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not
Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
We were far closer to fascism in our past than we are now. We used to have far more strictly regimented social norms, with say.....homosexuality being criminalized. We had slavery with the 'lesser' races stripped of rights. We inforced anti-interracial marriage laws. Segregation created strict social regimentation. With those who violated them imprisoned or killed. Massive monopolies that controlled entire industries. The US was more prone to belligerent nationalism with wars of expansion killing entire native populations.
And in virtually every example, these were tenets observed and defended by conservatives.
Our society has abandoned its more fascist characteristics as we've embraced a world view that is more liberal. Gay marriage is now recognized. The decriminalization of homosexuality was overturned. Slavery is gone. Jim Crow laws are gone. Segregation is gone. Monopolies have been broken up. Belligerent nationalism has been diluted. There's far greater avenues of expression (though arguably, that's more a product of technology than any particular political philosophy).
We have a much freer society with less social regimentation, more competition, more expression, more diversity. And at every step, conservatives fought those changes. And as the current push for more aggressive nationalism, demonstrates.....fought to return to some of our past where we had more fascist-like characteristics.
Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. Its a characteristic of virtually every type of organized government. There's a reason why its not mentioned in any definition. Making its addition in your imaginary definition useless.
No
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not
Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.
With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.
None of which we have.
Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.
We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.
You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.
The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.
Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.
Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:
Dictatorship.
Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.
Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.
Everything you know is garbage GOP propaganda. Clinton corruption Obama Democrats ditto etc etc etc, that is the scary hitlerian equivalence.everything you knowPerhaps you'd care to explain the Liberal attempts to stifle free speech?
BTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.
Why don't you challenge me to prove that.
Um.....what, Alex Jones' facebook ban?
And again, you ignore Dictatorship in fascism.
You ignore the forcible suppression of opposition in fascism (spoiler alert....not a facebook ban)
You ignore the belligerant nationalism of fascism.
You ignore the regimenation of the economy and society under fascism.
And you ignore the state sponsored racism that is so often a part of fascism.
You've literally ignored *every* defining tenet of fascism. And then laughably pretend to tell us how to 'properly' use a term you have no comprehension of.
As I've said, you simply have no idea of what you're talking about.
BTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.
Why don't you challenge me to prove that.
She's another one of those Progs with over inflated ego.
Laughing....because I use the dictionary rather than your imagination.....I have an 'over inflated ego'?
I didn't know you were funny!
You poor kid, you're "right" about everything. Just ask you. Your mind is conditioned to work only 1 way, most systems of Government...both then and now are/were blends of several strains of varying political philosophies. Hitler was a prime example. The US is another good example. People need to break free of the binary paradigm that the world around you has trained it to think.
Fascism…..the all-purpose invective.
Remember Rule #1: whatever the Left claims about the other side, that’s what they are guilty of.
Which brings us to the terms ‘fascism,’ and ‘fascist.’
Just yesterday, the dolt Paul Krugman, in what used to be a newspaper, claimed America was ready to be fascist because of Trump. Opinion | Why It Can Happen Here
See what I mean in Rule #1?
1.In his scholarly exegesis on Mussolini, David Ramsay Steele points out how ‘fascism’ is often used simply as a synonym for ‘I hate you.’
“More broadly, fascism may be defined as any totalitarian regime which does not aim at the nationalization of industry but preserves at least nominal private property. The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call if "fascism."]
When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.’
“The Mystery of Fascism”
by David Ramsay Steele
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele
"fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures.....such as Trump.
2. Well known liar, FDR, used it that way, and hatched a lie about successful business folks, and Republicans, based on a bogus definition of ‘fascist.’
He hated successful businessmen, and took every opportunity to lie about them and slander them, and by extension, Republicans.
Here he makes up a definition of fascism designed to indict entrepreneurs:
“The outfirst truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Message to Congress on Curbing Monopolies.
3. No it isn’t.
That’s not what fascism is. It is the unchecked growth of government power.
“Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.” Fascism - Wikipedia
For a more contemporary application of the term 'Fascism,'...
...the collective over the individual, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.
Notice how it applies to Liberalism?
NoSkylar said:She ignores every defining characteristic of fascism. And makes up her own definition.
It's All In The OP And You Can Read It Clearly
And Authoritarian - Totalitarian - Dictatorship = All Still The Same
Whether You Deny It Or Not
Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
We were far closer to fascism in our past than we are now. We used to have far more strictly regimented social norms, with say.....homosexuality being criminalized. We had slavery with the 'lesser' races stripped of rights. We inforced anti-interracial marriage laws. Segregation created strict social regimentation. With those who violated them imprisoned or killed. Massive monopolies that controlled entire industries. The US was more prone to belligerent nationalism with wars of expansion killing entire native populations.
And in virtually every example, these were tenets observed and defended by conservatives.
Our society has abandoned its more fascist characteristics as we've embraced a world view that is more liberal. Gay marriage is now recognized. The decriminalization of homosexuality was overturned. Slavery is gone. Jim Crow laws are gone. Segregation is gone. Monopolies have been broken up. Belligerent nationalism has been diluted. There's far greater avenues of expression (though arguably, that's more a product of technology than any particular political philosophy).
We have a much freer society with less social regimentation, more competition, more expression, more diversity. And at every step, conservatives fought those changes. And as the current push for more aggressive nationalism, demonstrates.....fought to return to some of our past where we had more fascist-like characteristics.
Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. Its a characteristic of virtually every type of organized government. There's a reason why its not mentioned in any definition. Making its addition in your imaginary definition useless.
The USA, courtesy of the Obama administration and the TDS phenomenon has us closer to fascism than ANYTHING the USA has seen in the past. Algorithms that discriminate, a media that is mostly in the hip pocket of one political party, people and their employers, advertisers, suppliers, customers etc. being banned or attacked for not being properly left of center or expressing a politically incorrect opinion, and specific groups singled out as 'victims' and others singled out as oppressing the 'victims' are all characteristics of fascism.
Everything you know is garbage GOP propaganda. Clinton corruption Obama Democrats ditto etc etc etc, that is the scary hitlerian equivalence.everything you knowUm.....what, Alex Jones' facebook ban?
And again, you ignore Dictatorship in fascism.
You ignore the forcible suppression of opposition in fascism (spoiler alert....not a facebook ban)
You ignore the belligerant nationalism of fascism.
You ignore the regimenation of the economy and society under fascism.
And you ignore the state sponsored racism that is so often a part of fascism.
You've literally ignored *every* defining tenet of fascism. And then laughably pretend to tell us how to 'properly' use a term you have no comprehension of.
As I've said, you simply have no idea of what you're talking about.
BTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.
Why don't you challenge me to prove that.
She's another one of those Progs with over inflated ego.
Laughing....because I use the dictionary rather than your imagination.....I have an 'over inflated ego'?
I didn't know you were funny!
You poor kid, you're "right" about everything. Just ask you. Your mind is conditioned to work only 1 way, most systems of Government...both then and now are/were blends of several strains of varying political philosophies. Hitler was a prime example. The US is another good example. People need to break free of the binary paradigm that the world around you has trained it to think.
Everything you know is garbage GOP propaganda. Clinton corruption Obama Democrats ditto etc etc etc, that is the scary hitlerian equivalence.everything you knowBTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.
Why don't you challenge me to prove that.
She's another one of those Progs with over inflated ego.
Laughing....because I use the dictionary rather than your imagination.....I have an 'over inflated ego'?
I didn't know you were funny!
You poor kid, you're "right" about everything. Just ask you. Your mind is conditioned to work only 1 way, most systems of Government...both then and now are/were blends of several strains of varying political philosophies. Hitler was a prime example. The US is another good example. People need to break free of the binary paradigm that the world around you has trained it to think.
Sorry spick, you're a dupe who knows nothing.You're a partisan hack.
Listen to Rush or watch Fox in primetime and you will see some scary equivalents.Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.
With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.
None of which we have.
Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.
We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.
You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.
The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.
Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.
Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:
Dictatorship.
Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.
Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.
And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.
Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.
It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.
It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.
It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.
It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.
Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.
Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.
Thanks for the racist Outlook... Funny how the the whole rest of the world and all the respected media in the world disagrees with your bubble of BS hate and character assassination and Misinformation.Everything you know is garbage GOP propaganda. Clinton corruption Obama Democrats ditto etc etc etc, that is the scary hitlerian equivalence.everything you knowBTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.
Why don't you challenge me to prove that.
She's another one of those Progs with over inflated ego.
Laughing....because I use the dictionary rather than your imagination.....I have an 'over inflated ego'?
I didn't know you were funny!
You poor kid, you're "right" about everything. Just ask you. Your mind is conditioned to work only 1 way, most systems of Government...both then and now are/were blends of several strains of varying political philosophies. Hitler was a prime example. The US is another good example. People need to break free of the binary paradigm that the world around you has trained it to think.
Sorry spick, you're a dupe who knows nothing.You're a partisan hack.
Yes it is a gigantic conspiracy of our entire wonderful justice system mainly run by Straight Arrow Republicans and every respected media and politician around the world. Only your bought off High School grad X Coke head DJ pundits/propagandists know the truth LOL! Arrrggghhh.....Everything you know is garbage GOP propaganda. Clinton corruption Obama Democrats ditto etc etc etc, that is the scary hitlerian equivalence.everything you knowBTW....as there are so very many things you don't know, here's another: Hitler and the Nazi Party openly admitted that Progressives and the Democrat Party served as models for their policies.
Why don't you challenge me to prove that.
She's another one of those Progs with over inflated ego.
Laughing....because I use the dictionary rather than your imagination.....I have an 'over inflated ego'?
I didn't know you were funny!
You poor kid, you're "right" about everything. Just ask you. Your mind is conditioned to work only 1 way, most systems of Government...both then and now are/were blends of several strains of varying political philosophies. Hitler was a prime example. The US is another good example. People need to break free of the binary paradigm that the world around you has trained it to think.
Sorry spick, you're a dupe who knows nothing.You're a partisan hack.
Yet when I checked the dictionary, neither 'totalitarian' nor 'authoritarian' was mentioned once in any definition.
Despite your ignorant insistences otherwise. You clearly didn't have the slighest clue what you were talking about.
As I said, no mention of dictators or dictatorship in the OP. No mentions of belligerent nationalism. No mention of state sanctioned racism in the OP. No mention of forcible suppression of opposition. No mention strict regimentation of society and all industry.
Every defining tenet of fascism is ignored by PC....with her imagination used in its place. And in defiance of all reason, you ignore the definition of the word and cling desperately to imagination.
Good luck with that.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.
With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.
None of which we have.
Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.
We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.
You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.
The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.
Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.
Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:
Dictatorship.
Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.
Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.
And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.
Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.
It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.
It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.
It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.
It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.
Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.
Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.
Actually it is what they are protesting that has fascist equivalences...Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.
With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.
None of which we have.
Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.
We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.
You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.
The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.
Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.
Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:
Dictatorship.
Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.
Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.
And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.
Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.
It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.
It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.
It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.
It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.
Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.
Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.
Perhaps you would care to define the difference between laws that require aspects of social engineering and/or government regulation that has the force of law and government regimentation??? How is government regulation not regimentation that the Cambridge Dictionary defines as: "extreme organization and control of people."
So would not more and more laws controlling our behavior and more and more regulation requiring or restricting certain behaviors not qualify as regimentation? If not, why not?
Obama/Hillary/Bernie et al and the Democrats decry any form of deregulation of almost anything and promote more and more regulation of just about everything in our daily lives. They wanted the government to control business more and dictate what business can and cannot do. They pretty well control what the media does and does not print as news. And they permit and too often condone group efforts to silence or punish somebody who expresses a politically incorrect opinion about anything. That is a very different thing than simply expressing one's contrary opinion or point of view.
That is getting very close to fascism.
Listen to Rush or watch Fox in primetime and you will see some scary equivalents.Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.
With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.
None of which we have.
Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.
We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.
You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.
The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.
Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.
Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:
Dictatorship.
Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.
Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.
And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.
Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.
It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.
It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.
It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.
It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.
Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.
Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.
Dictionary definition of 'fascism':
Dictionary.com
. . .a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
The Free Dictionary:
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control
Merriam-Webster
Definition of fascism
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
De-regulation of commerce and industry as much as is reasonably practical, encouraging entreprenourship and private expansion of business, refusing to give preference or deference to any race over any other race, putting more private resources into the hands of the people, more personal liberty, decentralizing power by returning more power to the individual states, giving opinions about this or that, etc., just doesn't fit the definition.
On the other hand. . .
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
are all traits of fascism.
I have a different source for defining the evil of Fascism....
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20
--More and more regulation of all aspects of commerce and industry. . .
Not regulation. Strict regimentation. People were *shot* if the trains didn't run on time. All industry was either directly controlled by the government or in immediate partnership with the government through a series of oligarchs.
With social norms *violently* enforced. Homosexuals were executed, for example. Dissenting intellectuals were executed or imprisoned. Art was regimented, social interactions were regimented. Literally controlled by the state.
None of which we have.
Again, your perception of the existence of fascism is just delusional nonsense.
--forcibly punishing, banning, excluding, attacking livelihood, silencing and/or hurting people who are not politically correct, hold the wrong beliefs or opinions, express the wrong doctrine. .
Forcible means at gun point, through violence, by the government. People were *killed* if they criticized the government. Rounded up in camps and summarily executed. There were purges of intellectuals and artists, dissenting papers were shut down and the writers killed or imprisoned.
We have nothing like that here. And no, a facebook ban isn't 'forcible suppression'. As you can just share your view else where. And there's no killing involved. No imprisonment. Nor is it done by the government.
You genuinely don't understand what Fascism is.
-- confiscating more personal wealth via taxation. . .
Taxation has nothing to do with fascism. You just made that up. And your imagination doesn't magically change the meaning of the word fascism.
--giving favoritism to some races or groups over others.
Favoritism isn't a characteristic of fascism. State sanctioned racism is. With people stripped of citizenship based on their perceived race. Like the Italians did to the Jews after the publication of 'The Manifesto of the Racial Scientists' by Mussolini.
The US was far more in line with this particular characteristic of fascism in its past. Especially with Jim Crow laws, slavery and the propagation of 'scientific' doctrines of the inferiority of 'lesser' races. The government has gotten out of that work, however.
Leaving you with no examples of any of the characteristics of fascism.
Again, you're imagined it. And of course, you've ignored the first and most immediate characteristic of fascism:
Dictatorship.
Again, you randomly ignoring the defining characteristics of fascism doesn't magically make them disappear. It merely demonstrates your ignorance.
Time to start cutting and pasting again. As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
I clearly know what I am talking about. Trying to distort the dictionary definition into what you want it to mean doesn't really cut it. But do have a nice day.
And by 'distort', you mean when I cited the actual definition rather than ignore it or add to it? You literally ignored dictatorship, the first and by far more immediate characteristic of fascism.....and laughably added 'taxation'. Which isn't mentioned once.
Fascism is a government system. It involves dictatorship. We don't have it.
It involves belligerent nationalism. We don't have it.
It often involves state sanction racism. We don't have it anymore.
It involves strict regimentation of all industry and society. We don't have it.
It involves forcible suppression of opposition. We don't have it.
Nor is any of it advocated by 'the left'. The closest we have of any political party supporting it would the right on belligerent nationalism. With the promotion of nationalism being a stated goal of presidential advisers. And even that is a stretch, as it hasn't really been promoted by the government.
Fascism just doesn't exist in our country. Or in the doctrine of the left or the right.
Perhaps you would care to define the difference between government regulation that has the force of law and government regimentation??? How is government regulation not regimentation that the Cambridge Dictionary defines as: "extreme organization and control of people."
So would not more and more laws controlling our behavior and more and more regulation requiring or restricting certain behaviors not qualify as regimentation? If not, why not?
Obama and the Democrats decry any form of deregulation of almost anything and promote more and more regulation of just about everything in our daily lives. They wanted the government to control business more and dictate what business can and cannot do. They pretty well control what the media does and does not print as news. And they permit and too often condone group efforts to silence or punish somebody who expresses a politically incorrect opinion about anything. That is a very different thing than simply expressing one's contrary opinion or point of view.
That is getting very close to fascism.
