The Prototypical Liberal Response

[PoliticalChic]

1. OK....go ahead and reveal the truth of an argument to a Liberal...document it....give examples....i.e., prove it to 'em.....and you can expect this:
"Oh, yeah???? Sez you!!!!"

That's pretty much the depth of the Liberal response.

Of course, it may be accompanied by all sorts of vituperation directed at the one providing the truth....but that comes with the territory.

What is astounding is that belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies.



2. Let's take an example that has been revived by Bill's wife to pump some air into her deflating campaign...."Birtherism."

Let's say you meet a stranger across a crowded room....turns out his name is Jacob Wasserstein..
He was brought up in Israel, and attended a religious school early on....and his father and step dad were both Jewish.
And...in many long and detailed discussions....he never defended, supported, praised, made up ingratiating tales about any other religion.....just Judaism.
And....if any Jewish folk committed iniquities, including murders....he made excuses for 'em.

Looking at these facts....would it be a fair guess he was Jewish?
Really....would it be a 'thought crime' to say, 'sure appears that he's Jewish.'
And....if folks became rabid in denials.....wouldn't that appear that they felt that being Jewish was a pejorataive?

"Oh, yeah???/ Sez you!!!"



Point being.....why do Liberals get incensed if some look at the facts and say Barack Hussein Obama appears to hold Islam in a very special place?



So....why did Bill's wife's campaign try to use it as a smear in the 2008 campaign?

She must be really, really embarrassed about it....and now she's trying to attach it to Trump.



"Oh, yeah???/ Sez you!!!"

here's the problem you have... all of your sources are based on innuendo and false assumptions ... you have never told a fact on these boards only your opinion

Actually, all of my posts are based upon a concept you appear unfamiliar with.....reality.

Correction: "Actually, all of my posts are based upon a concept you appear unfamiliar with..... MY reality."

If they are not based on truth, reality and rectitude.....

....why are you always trying to rebut them.....and failing in the attempt?

Could this be the explanation?
There are things living on the bottom of ponds that are smarter than you are.

As usual, a personal attack sans rebuttal, that being, if the mythical character you built, did not have a mother who was Jewish, your entire OP crashes and burns.

Of course, a narcissist has a real problem uttering the words, "I was wrong". I understand and would pity you if you weren't such an asshole.

1. Let's get this straight: I'm never wrong...and what causes you to grind your teeth, is the frequency with which you have helped prove this fact.

2. Clearly....my argument is impervious: we should respect the self-identification of our 'Jacob Wasserstein'.....


....unless there is evidence to the the contrary.

And, vis-a-vis Barack Hussein Obama (the most merciful), I provided just that:

So....if you asked our "Jacob Wasserstein," our pal from the OP, if he was Jewish, and he denied it...I guess one would have to believe him.

And Obama says he is a Christian....converted to by Reverent Jeremiah Wright....

This Reverent Jeremiah Wright...

a." Obama writes in his book, “Dreams from my Father”, that Wright dabbled in Black Nationalism and Islam in the 1960’s. Black Liberation Theology was inspired by the cult doctrine of the Nation of Islam.

Obama was a Muslim as a child in Indonesia and has embraced his ethnic Muslim family in Kenya. Though he has not been practicing Islam for about 40 years, he can be considered an ethnic or cultural Muslim and is obviously identifies rather intensely with Islamist culture.

Wright studied a black Muslim Brotherhood for seven years in divinity school and has incorporated some of the mysticism into the black liberation doctrine that he preached at Trinity United Church of Christ."
Muslim Brotherhood – Jeremiah Wright Declares that Yahweh is Allah

So.....Obama's Christian minister had been a Muslim?


That explains this:

b. “Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam
Obama was steeped in Islam but knew nothing about Christianity,” Klein says.
Klein asked Wright if he converted Obama from being a Muslim into a Christian.
“He said, I don’t know about that. but I can tell you that I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam,”Klein says.

The second area was Obama’s political philosophy. Wright introduced Obama to Black Liberation theology." Flashback=> Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report)



So...maybe Hillary's campaign was right...
So...what's the beef in seeing Obama as a sort-of Muslim???




Did everyone notice that you could not deny any of the above?
Excellent.


3. And, of course, Obama himself provided tons of evidence of his affinity to and for Islam.....which reinforces this fact:
There are things living on the bottom of ponds that are smarter than you are.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Let's say you meet a stranger across a crowded room....turns out his name is Jacob Wasserstein..
He was brought up in Israel, and attended a religious school early on....and his father and step dad were both Jewish.
And...in many long and detailed discussions....he never defended, supported, praised, made up ingratiating tales about any other religion.....just Judaism.
And....if any Jewish folk committed iniquities, including murders....he made excuses for 'em.

Looking at these facts....would it be a fair guess he was Jewish?
Really....would it be a 'thought crime' to say, 'sure appears that he's Jewish.'
And....if folks became rabid in denials.....wouldn't that appear that they felt that being Jewish was a pejorataive?

"Oh, yeah???/ Sez you!!!"



Point being.....why do Liberals get incensed if some look at the facts and say Barack Hussein Obama appears to hold Islam in a very special place?

Yeah, the name Barack Hussein Obama proves he must be Muslim.

Notable Christians of Middle Eastern ancestry in Middle East and Diaspora:

• Andre Agassi – former Iranian-American tennis player (Assyrian-Armenian descent)
• Alees Samaan, the Bahraini ambassador to the United Kingdom.
• Fairuz, Lebanese singer. (Orthodox Christian, originally Maronite)
• Boutros Boutros-Ghali, Egyptian-American 6th Secretary-General of the United Nations (Coptic Orthodox Christian)
• Elias Chacour Archbishop, prominent reconciliation and peace activist in Israel (Melkite Greek Catholic Christian)
• Michel Aflaq, Syrian founder of pan-Arabist Baath party, (Greek Orthodox Christian).
• Tariq Aziz, former Iraqi (Baath party) foreign minister and deputy prime minister (Chaldean Catholic Christian, an ethnic Assyrian)
• Suleiman Mousa, prominent Jordanian historian and author of T.E. Lawrence: An Arab View, (Catholic Christian).
• George Wassouf, Syrian singer (an ethnic Syriac)[citation needed][dubious – discuss].
• Edward Said, prominent Palestinian intellectual and writer (Greek Orthodox Christian background).
• Constantin Zureiq, prominent Syrian intellectual and academic (Greek Orthodox Christian).
• George Habash, Palestinian founder of PFLP (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• Nayef Hawatmeh, Jordanian founder of DFLP (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• Said Khoury, Palestinian entrepreneur, co-founder of the Consolidated Contractors International Company, (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• Yousef Beidas, prominent Palestinian Financier (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• John Sununu, US political leader of Palestinian-Lebanese background (Melkite Greek Catholic Christian).
• Hanan Ashrawi, Palestinian scholar and politic activist (Anglican Arab Christian).
• Kamal Salibi, Lebanese historian and scholar (Protestant Christian).
• Steve Bracks (from the Barakat Lebanese family) Australian State MP, Premier of Victoria, Australia, (Catholic Arab Christian).
• René Angélil, Canadian producer and husband of Céline Dion of Lebanese-Syrian background (Greek Catholic Christian).[69]
• Carlos Menem, president of Argentina from 1988 to 1999 of Syrian background (ethnically Arab converted to Roman Catholic from Sunni Islam)
• Emile Habibi, Arab Israeli writer (Anglican Christian).
• Azmi Bishara, former Arab Israeli Knesset member, now residing in Qatar (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• Azmi Nassar, Arab Israeli manager of the Palestinian national football team (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• Salim Tuama, Hapoel Tel Aviv middlefielder, (Arab citizen of Israel (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• Simon Shaheen, Israeli oud and violin virtuoso and composer (Greek Catholic Arab Christian)
• Salim Jubran, member of the Israeli Supreme Court (Maronite Christian)
• Ralph Nader, US Presidential candidate and consumers' rights activist of Lebanese background (Greek Orthodox background, but declines to comment on personal religion).
• Hani Naser, musician, producer (son of Jordanian Christian immigrants).
• Shakira, international superstar from Colombia, daughter of Lebanese father from Zahle and Colombian mother of Spanish and Catalan descent (Greek OrthodoxChristian).
• Tony Shalhoub, three-time Emmy Award and Golden Globe-winning American television and film actor of Lebanese background (Maronite Christian).
• Marie Keyrouz, chanter of Eastern Church music, Melkite Greek Catholic nun. Founder of L'Ensemble de la Paix (Ensemble of Peace) and Founder-President of L'Instituit International de Chant Sacré (International Institute of Sacred Chant) in Paris.
• Julio César Turbay, president of Colombia from 1978 to 1982 from Lebanese background (Maronite Christian).
• Carlos Slim Helú, Mexican businessman of Lebanese background (Maronite Christian).
• Bruno Bichir and Demián Bichir, Mexican actors of Lebanese background (Maronite Christians).
• Amin al-Rihani, Lebanese writer and intellectual (Maronite Christian).
• Afif Safieh, Palestinian diplomat (Greek Catholic Arab Christian).
• Bobby Rahal, race car driver, team owner, and businessman of Lebanese background (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• Doug Flutie, Heisman Trophy winner, NFL quarterback of Lebanese origin (Maronite Christian).
• Jacques Nasser, past CEO Ford Motor Company, French-American of Lebanese descent (Greek Orthodox Christian).
• Helen Thomas, Whitehouse Journalist, American of Lebanese descent (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• George Mitchell, former US Senator and Politician of Lebanese background (Maronite Christian).
• John Mack, former chairman & CEO of Morgan Stanley - an American of Lebanese descent (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).
• Mosab Hassan Yousef, author of Son of Hamas, American of Palestinian descent (Protestant Arab Christian, converted from Islam).
• Vartan Gregorian, American academic and president of Carnegie Corporation of New York (Iranian-Armenian descent).
• Alex Agase, American – Top level American Football (gridiron) player (Assyrian).
• Lou Agase, American – Top level American Football (gridiron) player (Assyrian).
• Mitch Daniels – Governor of Indiana and potential Republican presidential candidate (Syrian, Greek Orthodox).
• Rosie Malek-Yonan, Iranian-American actress, author, director, public figure and activist. (Assyrian descent).
• Adam Benjamin, Jr., Indiana Congressman (Assyrian).
• Anna Eshoo, California Congressman (Assyrian).
• John Nimrod, Illinois Senator (Assyrian).
• Aril Brikha, techno/nouse music artist (Assyrian).
• Linda George, singer (Assyrian).
• Sargon Gabriel, singer (Assyrian).
• Klodia Hanna, Miss Iraq 2006 (Assyrian).
• Christian Demirtaş, German footballer (Assyrian).
• Daniel Unal, Turkish Footballer – playing for FC Basle in Switzerland (Assyrian Christian).
• Peter Medawar, He was awarded the 1960 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, He is from Lebanese descent (Maronite Christian).[70]
• Elias James Corey, He won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry, he is from Lebanese descent (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).[71]
• Tony Fadell, Lebanese American inventor and is known as "one of the fathers of the iPod" (Greek Orthodox ).[72]
• Michael E. DeBakey, World-renowned American cardiac surgeon of Lebanese origin (Maronite Christian).[73]
• Michael Atiyah, British mathematician specialising in geometry (Greek Orthodox Arab Christian).[74]

 

[SassyIrishLass]

 

[Wry Catcher]

here's the problem you have... all of your sources are based on innuendo and false assumptions ... you have never told a fact on these boards only your opinion

Actually, all of my posts are based upon a concept you appear unfamiliar with.....reality.

Correction: "Actually, all of my posts are based upon a concept you appear unfamiliar with..... MY reality."

If they are not based on truth, reality and rectitude.....

....why are you always trying to rebut them.....and failing in the attempt?

Could this be the explanation?
There are things living on the bottom of ponds that are smarter than you are.

As usual, a personal attack sans rebuttal, that being, if the mythical character you built, did not have a mother who was Jewish, your entire OP crashes and burns.

Of course, a narcissist has a real problem uttering the words, "I was wrong". I understand and would pity you if you weren't such an asshole.

1. Let's get this straight: I'm never wrong...and what causes you to grind your teeth, is the frequency with which you have helped prove this fact.

2. Clearly....my argument is impervious: we should respect the self-identification of our 'Jacob Wasserstein'.....


....unless there is evidence to the the contrary.

And, vis-a-vis Barack Hussein Obama (the most merciful), I provided just that:

So....if you asked our "Jacob Wasserstein," our pal from the OP, if he was Jewish, and he denied it...I guess one would have to believe him.

And Obama says he is a Christian....converted to by Reverent Jeremiah Wright....

This Reverent Jeremiah Wright...

a." Obama writes in his book, “Dreams from my Father”, that Wright dabbled in Black Nationalism and Islam in the 1960’s. Black Liberation Theology was inspired by the cult doctrine of the Nation of Islam.

Obama was a Muslim as a child in Indonesia and has embraced his ethnic Muslim family in Kenya. Though he has not been practicing Islam for about 40 years, he can be considered an ethnic or cultural Muslim and is obviously identifies rather intensely with Islamist culture.

Wright studied a black Muslim Brotherhood for seven years in divinity school and has incorporated some of the mysticism into the black liberation doctrine that he preached at Trinity United Church of Christ."
Muslim Brotherhood – Jeremiah Wright Declares that Yahweh is Allah

So.....Obama's Christian minister had been a Muslim?


That explains this:

b. “Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam
Obama was steeped in Islam but knew nothing about Christianity,” Klein says.
Klein asked Wright if he converted Obama from being a Muslim into a Christian.
“He said, I don’t know about that. but I can tell you that I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam,”Klein says.

The second area was Obama’s political philosophy. Wright introduced Obama to Black Liberation theology." Flashback=> Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report)



So...maybe Hillary's campaign was right...
So...what's the beef in seeing Obama as a sort-of Muslim???




Did everyone notice that you could not deny any of the above?
Excellent.


3. And, of course, Obama himself provided tons of evidence of his affinity to and for Islam.....which reinforces this fact:
There are things living on the bottom of ponds that are smarter than you are.

Seeing you PC as sorta sane is problematic - do you have any proof you are?

I'd luv to see your score on the MMPI. The lie scale would look much like Mt. Everest.

 

[AntonToo]

I believe I've already proven you to be wrong and uneducated on this point.

You are noted as a "spherical imbecile" because you are an imbecile no matter the direction from which you are looked at.

Don't make me laugh, rightwing nut-bags like you believe whatever you want to believe, it's how you cope with the insidious liberal bias of reality.

 

[BlindBoo]

belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies.

Liar.

"belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies."
"Liar."

I never lie.

Here...let's prove it together- Do you believe any of these atrocious lies?

1. Liberals founded this country

2. Nazis are right wing

3. Muslim homicidal mania is due to the existence of Israel, not the Q'ran

4. Regulations. Obama: "What I have done -- and this is unprecedented ... is I've said to each agency ... 'look at regulations that are already on the books and if they don't make sense, let's get rid of them.'"
Barack Obama on Wednesday, June 29th, 2011 in a press conference

5. Global warming

6. Communism, command and control economies are successful....

7. Obama: Islam ‘Woven into the Fabric of Our Country Since Founding’

8. David Axelrod denying that Obama was intimately involved with terrorist Bill Ayers: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together." http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Ax_on_Ayers.html

9. Unequal Pay for Women

10 .The Obama administration has a robust vetting process to cover the Muslims he is bringing in.




See what I mean?

You believe those lies both because you're a Liberal, and afraid to confront your elitist masters....

...and because you're a fool.



Clear?

You always lie.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Sounds liberal to me.

Nazis were Fascist. Hitlers support of Right winger Franco in Spain proves what side of the political spectrum he was on.

I support Israels right to exist and I support an independent state for the other occupants of the former British Mandate in Palestine.

I believe in a warning earth. It's been a good thing for humans so far.

Authoritarian dictatorships are not liberal.

try some context when quoting just a few words:

Remarks by the President in Closing of the Summit on Countering Violent Extremism

What does bad Billy have to say about our President these days?

Equal job, equal pay.

Self radicalized American citizens will be our biggest threat in the next decade.

See. Now admit it. You always lie. Don't-Cha?

It wasn't necessary, but I do so appreciate you verifying my statement "belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies."

Every one is a lie...and you bought 'em like they were on sale!!!


I couldn't be more pleased.



Write soon,....y'hear.

Of course it wasn't necessary it's just fun sometimes to pop in here and debunk your Coulter Culture.

Bye for now.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Actually, all of my posts are based upon a concept you appear unfamiliar with.....reality.

Correction: "Actually, all of my posts are based upon a concept you appear unfamiliar with..... MY reality."

If they are not based on truth, reality and rectitude.....

....why are you always trying to rebut them.....and failing in the attempt?

Could this be the explanation?
There are things living on the bottom of ponds that are smarter than you are.

As usual, a personal attack sans rebuttal, that being, if the mythical character you built, did not have a mother who was Jewish, your entire OP crashes and burns.

Of course, a narcissist has a real problem uttering the words, "I was wrong". I understand and would pity you if you weren't such an asshole.

1. Let's get this straight: I'm never wrong...and what causes you to grind your teeth, is the frequency with which you have helped prove this fact.

2. Clearly....my argument is impervious: we should respect the self-identification of our 'Jacob Wasserstein'.....


....unless there is evidence to the the contrary.

And, vis-a-vis Barack Hussein Obama (the most merciful), I provided just that:

So....if you asked our "Jacob Wasserstein," our pal from the OP, if he was Jewish, and he denied it...I guess one would have to believe him.

And Obama says he is a Christian....converted to by Reverent Jeremiah Wright....

This Reverent Jeremiah Wright...

a." Obama writes in his book, “Dreams from my Father”, that Wright dabbled in Black Nationalism and Islam in the 1960’s. Black Liberation Theology was inspired by the cult doctrine of the Nation of Islam.

Obama was a Muslim as a child in Indonesia and has embraced his ethnic Muslim family in Kenya. Though he has not been practicing Islam for about 40 years, he can be considered an ethnic or cultural Muslim and is obviously identifies rather intensely with Islamist culture.

Wright studied a black Muslim Brotherhood for seven years in divinity school and has incorporated some of the mysticism into the black liberation doctrine that he preached at Trinity United Church of Christ."
Muslim Brotherhood – Jeremiah Wright Declares that Yahweh is Allah

So.....Obama's Christian minister had been a Muslim?


That explains this:

b. “Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam
Obama was steeped in Islam but knew nothing about Christianity,” Klein says.
Klein asked Wright if he converted Obama from being a Muslim into a Christian.
“He said, I don’t know about that. but I can tell you that I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam,”Klein says.

The second area was Obama’s political philosophy. Wright introduced Obama to Black Liberation theology." Flashback=> Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report)



So...maybe Hillary's campaign was right...
So...what's the beef in seeing Obama as a sort-of Muslim???




Did everyone notice that you could not deny any of the above?
Excellent.


3. And, of course, Obama himself provided tons of evidence of his affinity to and for Islam.....which reinforces this fact:
There are things living on the bottom of ponds that are smarter than you are.

Seeing you PC as sorta sane is problematic - do you have any proof you are?

I'd luv to see your score on the MMPI. The lie scale would look much like Mt. Everest.

2. Clearly....my argument is impervious: we should respect the self-identification of our 'Jacob Wasserstein'.....


....unless there is evidence to the the contrary.

And, vis-a-vis Barack Hussein Obama (the most merciful), I provided just that:

So....if you asked our "Jacob Wasserstein," our pal from the OP, if he was Jewish, and he denied it...I guess one would have to believe him.

And Obama says he is a Christian....converted to by Reverent Jeremiah Wright....

This Reverent Jeremiah Wright...

a." Obama writes in his book, “Dreams from my Father”, that Wright dabbled in Black Nationalism and Islam in the 1960’s. Black Liberation Theology was inspired by the cult doctrine of the Nation of Islam.

Obama was a Muslim as a child in Indonesia and has embraced his ethnic Muslim family in Kenya. Though he has not been practicing Islam for about 40 years, he can be considered an ethnic or cultural Muslim and is obviously identifies rather intensely with Islamist culture.

Wright studied a black Muslim Brotherhood for seven years in divinity school and has incorporated some of the mysticism into the black liberation doctrine that he preached at Trinity United Church of Christ."
Muslim Brotherhood – Jeremiah Wright Declares that Yahweh is Allah

So.....Obama's Christian minister had been a Muslim?


That explains this:

b. “Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam
Obama was steeped in Islam but knew nothing about Christianity,” Klein says.
Klein asked Wright if he converted Obama from being a Muslim into a Christian.
“He said, I don’t know about that. but I can tell you that I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam,”Klein says.

The second area was Obama’s political philosophy. Wright introduced Obama to Black Liberation theology." Flashback=> Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report)



So...maybe Hillary's campaign was right...
So...what's the beef in seeing Obama as a sort-of Muslim???

Did everyone notice that you could not deny any of the above?
Excellent.





BTW....My email has been flooded with furious notes from all sorts of algae and microfiliments, decrying my lumping them with you...."There are things living on the bottom of ponds that are smarter than you are."

Now I have to send apologies to 'em.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I believe I've already proven you to be wrong and uneducated on this point.

You are noted as a "spherical imbecile" because you are an imbecile no matter the direction from which you are looked at.

Don't make me laugh, rightwing nut-bags like you believe whatever you want to believe, it's how you cope with the insidious liberal bias of reality.

I only post facts....as, for example the explanation of Jefferson's 'separation of church and state.'

Really skewered you, didn't it.

Imagine....had not government schooling stunted any education....you would have known that.



I can't wait to seen your next post filled with wis-dumb.

 

[PoliticalChic]

belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies.

Liar.

"belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies."
"Liar."

I never lie.

Here...let's prove it together- Do you believe any of these atrocious lies?

1. Liberals founded this country

2. Nazis are right wing

3. Muslim homicidal mania is due to the existence of Israel, not the Q'ran

4. Regulations. Obama: "What I have done -- and this is unprecedented ... is I've said to each agency ... 'look at regulations that are already on the books and if they don't make sense, let's get rid of them.'"
Barack Obama on Wednesday, June 29th, 2011 in a press conference

5. Global warming

6. Communism, command and control economies are successful....

7. Obama: Islam ‘Woven into the Fabric of Our Country Since Founding’

8. David Axelrod denying that Obama was intimately involved with terrorist Bill Ayers: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together." http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Ax_on_Ayers.html

9. Unequal Pay for Women

10 .The Obama administration has a robust vetting process to cover the Muslims he is bringing in.




See what I mean?

You believe those lies both because you're a Liberal, and afraid to confront your elitist masters....

...and because you're a fool.



Clear?

You always lie.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Sounds liberal to me.

Nazis were Fascist. Hitlers support of Right winger Franco in Spain proves what side of the political spectrum he was on.

I support Israels right to exist and I support an independent state for the other occupants of the former British Mandate in Palestine.

I believe in a warning earth. It's been a good thing for humans so far.

Authoritarian dictatorships are not liberal.

try some context when quoting just a few words:

Remarks by the President in Closing of the Summit on Countering Violent Extremism

What does bad Billy have to say about our President these days?

Equal job, equal pay.

Self radicalized American citizens will be our biggest threat in the next decade.

See. Now admit it. You always lie. Don't-Cha?

It wasn't necessary, but I do so appreciate you verifying my statement "belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies."

Every one is a lie...and you bought 'em like they were on sale!!!


I couldn't be more pleased.



Write soon,....y'hear.

Of course it wasn't necessary it's just fun sometimes to pop in here and debunk your Coulter Culture.

Bye for now.

Oh...nooozzz!

Don't leave....it reduces the choice of dunces I have to kick around!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Actually, all of my posts are based upon a concept you appear unfamiliar with.....reality.

Correction: "Actually, all of my posts are based upon a concept you appear unfamiliar with..... MY reality."

If they are not based on truth, reality and rectitude.....

....why are you always trying to rebut them.....and failing in the attempt?

Could this be the explanation?
There are things living on the bottom of ponds that are smarter than you are.

As usual, a personal attack sans rebuttal, that being, if the mythical character you built, did not have a mother who was Jewish, your entire OP crashes and burns.

Of course, a narcissist has a real problem uttering the words, "I was wrong". I understand and would pity you if you weren't such an asshole.

1. Let's get this straight: I'm never wrong...and what causes you to grind your teeth, is the frequency with which you have helped prove this fact.

2. Clearly....my argument is impervious: we should respect the self-identification of our 'Jacob Wasserstein'.....


....unless there is evidence to the the contrary.

And, vis-a-vis Barack Hussein Obama (the most merciful), I provided just that:

So....if you asked our "Jacob Wasserstein," our pal from the OP, if he was Jewish, and he denied it...I guess one would have to believe him.

And Obama says he is a Christian....converted to by Reverent Jeremiah Wright....

This Reverent Jeremiah Wright...

a." Obama writes in his book, “Dreams from my Father”, that Wright dabbled in Black Nationalism and Islam in the 1960’s. Black Liberation Theology was inspired by the cult doctrine of the Nation of Islam.

Obama was a Muslim as a child in Indonesia and has embraced his ethnic Muslim family in Kenya. Though he has not been practicing Islam for about 40 years, he can be considered an ethnic or cultural Muslim and is obviously identifies rather intensely with Islamist culture.

Wright studied a black Muslim Brotherhood for seven years in divinity school and has incorporated some of the mysticism into the black liberation doctrine that he preached at Trinity United Church of Christ."
Muslim Brotherhood – Jeremiah Wright Declares that Yahweh is Allah

So.....Obama's Christian minister had been a Muslim?


That explains this:

b. “Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam
Obama was steeped in Islam but knew nothing about Christianity,” Klein says.
Klein asked Wright if he converted Obama from being a Muslim into a Christian.
“He said, I don’t know about that. but I can tell you that I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam,”Klein says.

The second area was Obama’s political philosophy. Wright introduced Obama to Black Liberation theology." Flashback=> Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report)



So...maybe Hillary's campaign was right...
So...what's the beef in seeing Obama as a sort-of Muslim???




Did everyone notice that you could not deny any of the above?
Excellent.


3. And, of course, Obama himself provided tons of evidence of his affinity to and for Islam.....which reinforces this fact:
There are things living on the bottom of ponds that are smarter than you are.

Seeing you PC as sorta sane is problematic - do you have any proof you are?

I'd luv to see your score on the MMPI. The lie scale would look much like Mt. Everest.

Liar.

"belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies."
"Liar."

I never lie.

Here...let's prove it together- Do you believe any of these atrocious lies?

1. Liberals founded this country

2. Nazis are right wing

3. Muslim homicidal mania is due to the existence of Israel, not the Q'ran

4. Regulations. Obama: "What I have done -- and this is unprecedented ... is I've said to each agency ... 'look at regulations that are already on the books and if they don't make sense, let's get rid of them.'"
Barack Obama on Wednesday, June 29th, 2011 in a press conference

5. Global warming

6. Communism, command and control economies are successful....

7. Obama: Islam ‘Woven into the Fabric of Our Country Since Founding’

8. David Axelrod denying that Obama was intimately involved with terrorist Bill Ayers: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together." http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Ax_on_Ayers.html

9. Unequal Pay for Women

10 .The Obama administration has a robust vetting process to cover the Muslims he is bringing in.




See what I mean?

You believe those lies both because you're a Liberal, and afraid to confront your elitist masters....

...and because you're a fool.



Clear?

You always lie.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Sounds liberal to me.

Nazis were Fascist. Hitlers support of Right winger Franco in Spain proves what side of the political spectrum he was on.

I support Israels right to exist and I support an independent state for the other occupants of the former British Mandate in Palestine.

I believe in a warning earth. It's been a good thing for humans so far.

Authoritarian dictatorships are not liberal.

try some context when quoting just a few words:

Remarks by the President in Closing of the Summit on Countering Violent Extremism

What does bad Billy have to say about our President these days?

Equal job, equal pay.

Self radicalized American citizens will be our biggest threat in the next decade.

See. Now admit it. You always lie. Don't-Cha?

It wasn't necessary, but I do so appreciate you verifying my statement "belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies."

Every one is a lie...and you bought 'em like they were on sale!!!


I couldn't be more pleased.



Write soon,....y'hear.

Of course it wasn't necessary it's just fun sometimes to pop in here and debunk your Coulter Culture.

Bye for now.

Oh...nooozzz!

Don't leave....it reduces the choice of dunces I have to kick around!

You post horseshit in every OP and then wallow around in it for 100 more posts.

That's gross. Civilized Americans normally don't do that.

 

[BlindBoo]

belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies.

Liar.

"belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies."
"Liar."

I never lie.

Here...let's prove it together- Do you believe any of these atrocious lies?

1. Liberals founded this country

2. Nazis are right wing

3. Muslim homicidal mania is due to the existence of Israel, not the Q'ran

4. Regulations. Obama: "What I have done -- and this is unprecedented ... is I've said to each agency ... 'look at regulations that are already on the books and if they don't make sense, let's get rid of them.'"
Barack Obama on Wednesday, June 29th, 2011 in a press conference

5. Global warming

6. Communism, command and control economies are successful....

7. Obama: Islam ‘Woven into the Fabric of Our Country Since Founding’

8. David Axelrod denying that Obama was intimately involved with terrorist Bill Ayers: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together." http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Ax_on_Ayers.html

9. Unequal Pay for Women

10 .The Obama administration has a robust vetting process to cover the Muslims he is bringing in.




See what I mean?

You believe those lies both because you're a Liberal, and afraid to confront your elitist masters....

...and because you're a fool.



Clear?

You always lie.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Sounds liberal to me.

Nazis were Fascist. Hitlers support of Right winger Franco in Spain proves what side of the political spectrum he was on.

I support Israels right to exist and I support an independent state for the other occupants of the former British Mandate in Palestine.

I believe in a warning earth. It's been a good thing for humans so far.

Authoritarian dictatorships are not liberal.

try some context when quoting just a few words:

Remarks by the President in Closing of the Summit on Countering Violent Extremism

What does bad Billy have to say about our President these days?

Equal job, equal pay.

Self radicalized American citizens will be our biggest threat in the next decade.

See. Now admit it. You always lie. Don't-Cha?

Everyone one of these....a total, abject lie.....and you swear to 'em.

1. Liberals founded this country

2. Nazis are right wing

3. Muslim homicidal mania is due to the existence of Israel, not the Q'ran

4. Regulations. Obama: "What I have done -- and this is unprecedented ... is I've said to each agency ... 'look at regulations that are already on the books and if they don't make sense, let's get rid of them.'"
Barack Obama on Wednesday, June 29th, 2011 in a press conference

5. Global warming

6. Communism, command and control economies are successful....

7. Obama: Islam ‘Woven into the Fabric of Our Country Since Founding’

8. David Axelrod denying that Obama was intimately involved with terrorist Bill Ayers: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together."http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Ax_on_Ayers.html

9. Unequal Pay for Women

10 .The Obama administration has a robust vetting process to cover the Muslims he is bringing in.



How about this one, too?
11. Outcomes in the lives of children raised by a parent who has same-sex relationships and those raised by their married, biological parents are the same, and equally beneficial to the children.


Swear to that one, too?

Excellent.

Not a child psychologist. My own experience is subjective. A single parent household, regardless of the sexual orientation of that parent, is much different than a married couple's household. Especially a traditional father work and mom stays home to raise the kids family. It not a fair comparison. Specious really.

 

[AntonToo]

I only post facts

as, for example the explanation of Jefferson's 'separation of church and state.'

And I, for example, explained to you the reality that "separation of church and state" is a longstanding American approach to law and governing.

You are just going to have to find some way to cope with that reality, so far you've chosen denial.

 

[PoliticalChic]

belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies.

Liar.

"belonging to the Liberal cult, one must be willing to accept and support lies."
"Liar."

I never lie.

Here...let's prove it together- Do you believe any of these atrocious lies?

1. Liberals founded this country

2. Nazis are right wing

3. Muslim homicidal mania is due to the existence of Israel, not the Q'ran

4. Regulations. Obama: "What I have done -- and this is unprecedented ... is I've said to each agency ... 'look at regulations that are already on the books and if they don't make sense, let's get rid of them.'"
Barack Obama on Wednesday, June 29th, 2011 in a press conference

5. Global warming

6. Communism, command and control economies are successful....

7. Obama: Islam ‘Woven into the Fabric of Our Country Since Founding’

8. David Axelrod denying that Obama was intimately involved with terrorist Bill Ayers: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together." http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Ax_on_Ayers.html

9. Unequal Pay for Women

10 .The Obama administration has a robust vetting process to cover the Muslims he is bringing in.




See what I mean?

You believe those lies both because you're a Liberal, and afraid to confront your elitist masters....

...and because you're a fool.



Clear?

You always lie.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Sounds liberal to me.

Nazis were Fascist. Hitlers support of Right winger Franco in Spain proves what side of the political spectrum he was on.

I support Israels right to exist and I support an independent state for the other occupants of the former British Mandate in Palestine.

I believe in a warning earth. It's been a good thing for humans so far.

Authoritarian dictatorships are not liberal.

try some context when quoting just a few words:

Remarks by the President in Closing of the Summit on Countering Violent Extremism

What does bad Billy have to say about our President these days?

Equal job, equal pay.

Self radicalized American citizens will be our biggest threat in the next decade.

See. Now admit it. You always lie. Don't-Cha?

Everyone one of these....a total, abject lie.....and you swear to 'em.

1. Liberals founded this country

2. Nazis are right wing

3. Muslim homicidal mania is due to the existence of Israel, not the Q'ran

4. Regulations. Obama: "What I have done -- and this is unprecedented ... is I've said to each agency ... 'look at regulations that are already on the books and if they don't make sense, let's get rid of them.'"
Barack Obama on Wednesday, June 29th, 2011 in a press conference

5. Global warming

6. Communism, command and control economies are successful....

7. Obama: Islam ‘Woven into the Fabric of Our Country Since Founding’

8. David Axelrod denying that Obama was intimately involved with terrorist Bill Ayers: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together."http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Ax_on_Ayers.html

9. Unequal Pay for Women

10 .The Obama administration has a robust vetting process to cover the Muslims he is bringing in.



How about this one, too?
11. Outcomes in the lives of children raised by a parent who has same-sex relationships and those raised by their married, biological parents are the same, and equally beneficial to the children.


Swear to that one, too?

Excellent.

Not a child psychologist. My own experience is subjective. A single parent household, regardless of the sexual orientation of that parent, is much different than a married couple's household. Especially a traditional father work and mom stays home to raise the kids family. It not a fair comparison. Specious really.

Hmmm.....look at you, beating a retreat from the Liberal dogma....

This:

"Gay Parents As Good As Straight Ones
MED prof’s finding comes as Supreme Court weighs same-sex marriage"
Gay Parents As Good As Straight Ones | BU Today | Boston University



So, you're admitting that the Liberal agenda is totally bogus?
Excellent.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I only post facts

as, for example the explanation of Jefferson's 'separation of church and state.'

And I, for example, explained to you the reality that "separation of church and state" is a longstanding American approach to law and governing.

You are just going to have to find some way to cope with that reality, so far you've chosen denial.

"separation of church and state" is a longstanding American approach to law and governing."


Of course, as is the case with just about all of your post....totally false.



It was racist Hugo Black who injected into jurisprudence in Everson v. Board of Education (1947)
"The "high and impregnable" wall central to the past 50 years of church-state jurisprudence is not Jefferson's wall; rather, it is the wall that Black--Justice Hugo Black--built in 1947 in Everson v. Board of Education."
The Mythical "Wall of Separation": How a Misused Metaphor Changed Church–State Law, Policy, and Discourse


Let me do the math for you....that would be some 160 years into America's history



Although I'm happy to see you do it, it appears an entirely useless waste of energy to continue to reinforce the understanding that you are a total imbecile.

It has been clear from the start, and now is merely gilding the lily.

 

[AntonToo]

I only post facts

as, for example the explanation of Jefferson's 'separation of church and state.'

And I, for example, explained to you the reality that "separation of church and state" is a longstanding American approach to law and governing.

You are just going to have to find some way to cope with that reality, so far you've chosen denial.

"separation of church and state" is a longstanding American approach to law and governing."


Of course, as is the case with just about all of your post....totally false.



It was racist Hugo Black who injected into jurisprudence in Everson v. Board of Education (1947)
"The "high and impregnable" wall central to the past 50 years of church-state jurisprudence is not Jefferson's wall; rather, it is the wall that Black--Justice Hugo Black--built in 1947 in Everson v. Board of Education."
The Mythical "Wall of Separation": How a Misused Metaphor Changed Church–State Law, Policy, and Discourse


Let me do the math for you....that would be some 160 years into America's history



Although I'm happy to see you do it, it appears an entirely useless waste of energy to continue to reinforce the understanding that you are a total imbecile.

It has been clear from the start, and now is merely gilding the lily.

I suppose you imagine yourself JUST STATING FACTS there. YOU ARE CERTAINLY NOT JUST DOING THAT. The self-delusion is quite deep to think yourself but an unbiased fact delivery vehicle, especially considering how much rightwing coolaid you've been chugging.

Separating church and state has long rich history, long before 1947.

Whats been clear from the start is that we have a government that pays no attention to religious governing prescriptions in it's design. You cannot find in a bible a blueprint for modern constitutional, representative Democracy, on the contrary what you find are authoritarian regimes modern world REJECTED. Just as it rejected religious tests for governing officials.

Article Six of the United States Constitution provides that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States". That doesn't sound like a scripture inspired thinking, now does it?

In 1779 Jefferson proposed "The Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom", which was adopted in 1786. Its goal was complete separation of church and state; it declared the opinions of men to be beyond the jurisdiction of the civil magistrate. He asserted that the mind is not subject to coercion, that civil rights have no dependence on religious opinions, and that the opinions of men are not the concern of civil government. This became one of the American charters of freedom. This elevated declaration of the freedom of the mind was hailed in Europe as "an example of legislative wisdom and liberality never before known"

From 1784 to 1786, Jefferson and James Madison worked together to oppose Patrick Henry's attempts to assess general taxes in Virginia to support churches. In 1786, the Virginia General Assembly passed Jefferson's Bill for Religious Freedom, which he had first submitted in 1779. It was one of only three accomplishments he put in his epitaph. The law read:

“ No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burdened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer, on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.[30]

And that's just a TINY sample of hands-on separating by the founders.

Read up:

Separation of church and state in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I only post facts

as, for example the explanation of Jefferson's 'separation of church and state.'

And I, for example, explained to you the reality that "separation of church and state" is a longstanding American approach to law and governing.

You are just going to have to find some way to cope with that reality, so far you've chosen denial.

"separation of church and state" is a longstanding American approach to law and governing."


Of course, as is the case with just about all of your post....totally false.



It was racist Hugo Black who injected into jurisprudence in Everson v. Board of Education (1947)
"The "high and impregnable" wall central to the past 50 years of church-state jurisprudence is not Jefferson's wall; rather, it is the wall that Black--Justice Hugo Black--built in 1947 in Everson v. Board of Education."
The Mythical "Wall of Separation": How a Misused Metaphor Changed Church–State Law, Policy, and Discourse


Let me do the math for you....that would be some 160 years into America's history



Although I'm happy to see you do it, it appears an entirely useless waste of energy to continue to reinforce the understanding that you are a total imbecile.

It has been clear from the start, and now is merely gilding the lily.

I suppose you imagine yourself JUST STATING FACTS there. YOU ARE CERTAINLY NOT JUST DOING THAT. The self-delusion is quite deep to think yourself but an unbiased fact delivery vehicle, especially considering how much rightwing coolaid you've been chugging.

Separating church and state has long rich history, long before 1947.

Whats been clear from the start is that we have a government that pays no attention to religious governing prescriptions in it's design. You cannot find in a bible a blueprint for modern constitutional, representative Democracy, on the contrary what you find are authoritarian regimes modern world REJECTED. Just as it rejected religious tests for governing officials.

Article Six of the United States Constitution provides that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States". That doesn't sound like a scripture inspired thinking, now does it?

In 1779 Jefferson proposed "The Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom", which was adopted in 1786. Its goal was complete separation of church and state; it declared the opinions of men to be beyond the jurisdiction of the civil magistrate. He asserted that the mind is not subject to coercion, that civil rights have no dependence on religious opinions, and that the opinions of men are not the concern of civil government. This became one of the American charters of freedom. This elevated declaration of the freedom of the mind was hailed in Europe as "an example of legislative wisdom and liberality never before known"

From 1784 to 1786, Jefferson and James Madison worked together to oppose Patrick Henry's attempts to assess general taxes in Virginia to support churches. In 1786, the Virginia General Assembly passed Jefferson's Bill for Religious Freedom, which he had first submitted in 1779. It was one of only three accomplishments he put in his epitaph. The law read:

“ No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burdened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer, on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.[30]

And that's just a TINY sample of hands-on separating by the founders.

Read up:

Separation of church and state in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There were state sponsored religions in the states after ratification of the constitution...and they were never challenged.

The people finally got smart and wrote them out.

 

[AntonToo]

1. Let's get this straight: I'm never wrong...

You may as well declare yourself an idiot. Because it takes an idiot to believe that.