The real reason for the Carly Fiorina pick

[TheOldSchool]

At this point it's settled that Cruz is mathematically eliminated from reaching 1237. And that Kasich is a joke, whose only purpose is to suck up votes from morons in the remaining states to try to stop Trump from reaching 1237.

So why this befuddling announcement today that Fiorina will be the VP choice? We know it's not to win California, because Fiorina is not popular there, or anywhere for that matter. We know it's not going to help Cruz win other states, or get him to 1237....

Well guess what... it all comes back to the brokered convention. Cruz never had a chance at winning the people's vote, and in fact had the Texas primary happened a month later he would be long gone from this process. But he's managed slime his way into a position where if he greases the right establishment palms and makes enough promises to special interests he can get himself a brokered convention and steal the nomination.

Fiorina is from the state with the most delegates. As an establishment politician there, she has connections and a framework there from her failed senate bid 6 years ago when she was one of the only republicans in America who didn't get swept into office.

She was selected today because she can make the right secret backroom deals, grease the right palms, make promises to the California establishment, and steal away votes in the most populous state. And you won't hear a peep about that in the establishment "conservative" media.

If Trump doesn't get to 1237, then the GOP may cease to exist.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Her performance in the campaign rather indicates that Fiorina doesn't have that much influence.

She's a smart girl, but she may have made a mistake hitching to this wagon.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Her performance in the campaign rather indicates that Fiorina doesn't have that much influence.

She's a smart girl, but she may have made a mistake hitching to this wagon.

Cruz will probably lose points in California over this.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

At this point it's settled that Cruz is mathematically eliminated from reaching 1237. And that Kasich is a joke, whose only purpose is to suck up votes from morons in the remaining states to try to stop Trump from reaching 1237.

So why this befuddling announcement today that Fiorina will be the VP choice? We know it's not to win California, because Fiorina is not popular there, or anywhere for that matter. We know it's not going to help Cruz win other states, or get him to 1237....

Well guess what... it all comes back to the brokered convention. Cruz never had a chance at winning the people's vote, and in fact had the Texas primary happened a month later he would be long gone from this process. But he's managed slime his way into a position where if he greases the right establishment palms and makes enough promises to special interests he can get himself a brokered convention and steal the nomination.

Fiorina is from the state with the most delegates. As an establishment politician there, she has connections and a framework there from her failed senate bid 6 years ago when she was one of the only republicans in America who didn't get swept into office.

She was selected today because she can make the right secret backroom deals, grease the right palms, make promises to the California establishment, and steal away votes in the most populous state. And you won't hear a peep about that in the establishment "conservative" media.

If Trump doesn't get to 1237, then the GOP may cease to exist.

I agree.

The pick of Carly was to make it clear that the Establishment plans on stealing the Nomination from Trump and even if Trump make 1237 it does not guarantee the establishment will not steal it still.

Cruz is connected to the Bush family and they are the Establishment and they're going to do their best to stop Trump even if it mean destroying the GOP.

One thing Trump did for sure ( also Bernie ) is shine the light on the corruption and how the two party system will never allow someone that does not tow the party line to win the nomination...

 

[davecmarino]

You are probably correct but let's face another issue. Carly is able to split the female vote and she actually makes Cruz look better. Cruz is a very smart guy to pull Carly back into the fight against Hillary as she is probably the only way he has a chance to hold off Trump and to come against Hillary in the General election.

Trump would make the coming election more exciting but very polarizing. Facing Trump she will move left to bring out the Bernie supporters. But to face Cruz, she will not move left as she will try to pull the independent vote from Cruz leaving the Bernie supporters mostly on the sidelines except for a few bones. Carly makes it so that Hillary has to try and juggle both as moving left costs her the independent vote while moving to the moderate she has to face off against another strong woman.

Cruz made the right play in fact the only play that will keep him alive long enough to have a real fight against Hillary.


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[tyroneweaver]

Wow, this is a real game changer. Cruz will have the nomination wrapped up next week

 

[TheOldSchool]

You are probably correct but let's face another issue. Carly is able to split the female vote and she actually makes Cruz look better. Cruz is a very smart guy to pull Carly back into the fight against Hillary as she is probably the only way he has a chance to hold off Trump and to come against Hillary in the General election.

Trump would make the coming election more exciting but very polarizing. Facing Trump she will move left to bring out the Bernie supporters. But to face Cruz, she will not move left as she will try to pull the independent vote from Cruz leaving the Bernie supporters mostly on the sidelines except for a few bones. Carly makes it so that Hillary has to try and juggle both as moving left costs her the independent vote while moving to the moderate she has to face off against another strong woman.

Cruz made the right play in fact the only play that will keep him alive long enough to have a real fight against Hillary.


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There is absolutely zero possibility of Cruz winning any Sanders voters over. You'd have to be crazy to believe that.

 

[Freewill]

Cruz played his trump card but it isn't going to do him any good. She wasn't exactly that popular and I don't see this making her or Cruz any more popular.

 

[Shrimpbox]

You are making an assumption that Cruz wins Indiana. If he loses there he is done and trump is the nominee and Carly, who I love, may have bet on the wrong horse. You have to wonder how a smart woman like her was persuaded to put so much of her rep on the line for a possible loser. Could Cruz be considering a third party run?

 

[davecmarino]

You are probably correct but let's face another issue. Carly is able to split the female vote and she actually makes Cruz look better. Cruz is a very smart guy to pull Carly back into the fight against Hillary as she is probably the only way he has a chance to hold off Trump and to come against Hillary in the General election.

Trump would make the coming election more exciting but very polarizing. Facing Trump she will move left to bring out the Bernie supporters. But to face Cruz, she will not move left as she will try to pull the independent vote from Cruz leaving the Bernie supporters mostly on the sidelines except for a few bones. Carly makes it so that Hillary has to try and juggle both as moving left costs her the independent vote while moving to the moderate she has to face off against another strong woman.

Cruz made the right play in fact the only play that will keep him alive long enough to have a real fight against Hillary.


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There is absolutely zero possibility of Cruz winning any Sanders voters over. You'd have to be crazy to believe that.

I was talking about Hillary facing Trump versus Cruz and the choice she must make with Carly now in the equation. Carly isn't facing trump or Cruz, Hillary has to.

 

[TheOldSchool]

You are probably correct but let's face another issue. Carly is able to split the female vote and she actually makes Cruz look better. Cruz is a very smart guy to pull Carly back into the fight against Hillary as she is probably the only way he has a chance to hold off Trump and to come against Hillary in the General election.

Trump would make the coming election more exciting but very polarizing. Facing Trump she will move left to bring out the Bernie supporters. But to face Cruz, she will not move left as she will try to pull the independent vote from Cruz leaving the Bernie supporters mostly on the sidelines except for a few bones. Carly makes it so that Hillary has to try and juggle both as moving left costs her the independent vote while moving to the moderate she has to face off against another strong woman.

Cruz made the right play in fact the only play that will keep him alive long enough to have a real fight against Hillary.


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There is absolutely zero possibility of Cruz winning any Sanders voters over. You'd have to be crazy to believe that.

I was talking about Hillary facing Trump versus Cruz and the choice she must make with Carly now in the equation. Carly isn't facing trump or Cruz, Hillary has to.

There is an established strategy for defeating Fiorina. Just look at her 2010 Senate bid when she lost even despite a republican wave sweeping into power. She's an incredibly weak candidate.

And I want to reemphasize that there is absolutely zero chance Cruz gets any Sanders supporters. Trump maybe, if he can connect to their anti-establishment sentiment.

 

[davecmarino]

Oh and if Hillary moves to the left to pick up Sanders supporters the independents are going to crush her for it. No independent wants more debt or socialism. I'd rather see her face Trump and get juiced. At least that way the dirty Washington elites will have to walk on eggshells for 4 years instead of use a rake to pull in the mother load of Wall Street cash that Hillary will spray around DC.


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[TheOldSchool]

Oh and if Hillary moves to the left to pick up Sanders supporters the independents are going to crush her for it. No independent wants more debt or socialism. I'd rather see her face Trump and get juiced. At least that way the dirty Washington elites will have to walk on eggshells for 4 years instead of use a rack to pull in the mother load of Wall Street cash that Hillary will spray around DC.


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Why are you focused on Sanders voters? Those are crazy people.

 

[davecmarino]

Oh and if Hillary moves to the left to pick up Sanders supporters the independents are going to crush her for it. No independent wants more debt or socialism. I'd rather see her face Trump and get juiced. At least that way the dirty Washington elites will have to walk on eggshells for 4 years instead of use a rack to pull in the mother load of Wall Street cash that Hillary will spray around DC.


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Why are you focused on Sanders voters? Those are crazy people.

They are crazy but they are still voters. With Sanders staying in until the convention she has to choose how far left she will go to convince them to vote for her. Bernie will try and make the DNC run with some of his talking points.

I think both of these parties are ready to divide and that may be the only thing that actually saves America from the entrenched establishment.

I don't agree with everything Trump says at all but 4 years of him might be what we need to take some power back from The Feds in DC.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Oh and if Hillary moves to the left to pick up Sanders supporters the independents are going to crush her for it. No independent wants more debt or socialism. I'd rather see her face Trump and get juiced. At least that way the dirty Washington elites will have to walk on eggshells for 4 years instead of use a rack to pull in the mother load of Wall Street cash that Hillary will spray around DC.


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Why are you focused on Sanders voters? Those are crazy people.

They are crazy but they are still voters. With Sanders staying in until the convention she has to choose how far left she will go to convince them to vote for her. Bernie will try and make the DNC run with some of his talking points.

I think both of these parties are ready to divide and that may be the only thing that actually saves America from the entrenched establishment.

I don't agree with everything Trump says at all but 4 years of him might be what we need to take some power back from The Feds in DC.

Trump certainly leaves Cruz in the dust as far as who's a better candidate.

 

[Zander]

At this point it's settled that Cruz is mathematically eliminated from reaching 1237. And that Kasich is a joke, whose only purpose is to suck up votes from morons in the remaining states to try to stop Trump from reaching 1237.

So why this befuddling announcement today that Fiorina will be the VP choice? We know it's not to win California, because Fiorina is not popular there, or anywhere for that matter. We know it's not going to help Cruz win other states, or get him to 1237....

Well guess what... it all comes back to the brokered convention. Cruz never had a chance at winning the people's vote, and in fact had the Texas primary happened a month later he would be long gone from this process. But he's managed slime his way into a position where if he greases the right establishment palms and makes enough promises to special interests he can get himself a brokered convention and steal the nomination.

Fiorina is from the state with the most delegates. As an establishment politician there, she has connections and a framework there from her failed senate bid 6 years ago when she was one of the only republicans in America who didn't get swept into office.

She was selected today because she can make the right secret backroom deals, grease the right palms, make promises to the California establishment, and steal away votes in the most populous state. And you won't hear a peep about that in the establishment "conservative" media.

If Trump doesn't get to 1237, then the GOP may cease to exist.

The primary reason is to keep voters "distracTED" from the fact that Cruz can't win.

 

[whitehall]

It's a last desperate "Hail Mary" play and Fiorina should be insulted to be used this way.

 

[HappyJoy]

You are probably correct but let's face another issue. Carly is able to split the female vote and she actually makes Cruz look better. Cruz is a very smart guy to pull Carly back into the fight against Hillary as she is probably the only way he has a chance to hold off Trump and to come against Hillary in the General election.

Trump would make the coming election more exciting but very polarizing. Facing Trump she will move left to bring out the Bernie supporters. But to face Cruz, she will not move left as she will try to pull the independent vote from Cruz leaving the Bernie supporters mostly on the sidelines except for a few bones. Carly makes it so that Hillary has to try and juggle both as moving left costs her the independent vote while moving to the moderate she has to face off against another strong woman.

Cruz made the right play in fact the only play that will keep him alive long enough to have a real fight against Hillary.


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There is absolutely zero possibility of Cruz winning any Sanders voters over. You'd have to be crazy to believe that.

I was talking about Hillary facing Trump versus Cruz and the choice she must make with Carly now in the equation. Carly isn't facing trump or Cruz, Hillary has to.

There is an established strategy for defeating Fiorina. Just look at her 2010 Senate bid when she lost even despite a republican wave sweeping into power. She's an incredibly weak candidate.

And I want to reemphasize that there is absolutely zero chance Cruz gets any Sanders supporters. Trump maybe, if he can connect to their anti-establishment sentiment.

Who is the bigger joke in this? Cruz or Carly? I mean, couldn't he find anyone better? And, why would anyone accept the VP spot in a campaign circling the rim? It's ridiculous.

Also, I don't see so called liberal 'anti-establishment' candidates supporting Trump who as we all know has to at least make a little sense to mainstream Republicans in a general election.

 

[HappyJoy]

It's a last desperate "Hail Mary" play and Fiorina should be insulted to be used this way.

Apparently she's not in on the joke and deserves the same amount of ridicule as Cruz.

 

[TheOldSchool]

You are probably correct but let's face another issue. Carly is able to split the female vote and she actually makes Cruz look better. Cruz is a very smart guy to pull Carly back into the fight against Hillary as she is probably the only way he has a chance to hold off Trump and to come against Hillary in the General election.

Trump would make the coming election more exciting but very polarizing. Facing Trump she will move left to bring out the Bernie supporters. But to face Cruz, she will not move left as she will try to pull the independent vote from Cruz leaving the Bernie supporters mostly on the sidelines except for a few bones. Carly makes it so that Hillary has to try and juggle both as moving left costs her the independent vote while moving to the moderate she has to face off against another strong woman.

Cruz made the right play in fact the only play that will keep him alive long enough to have a real fight against Hillary.


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There is absolutely zero possibility of Cruz winning any Sanders voters over. You'd have to be crazy to believe that.

I was talking about Hillary facing Trump versus Cruz and the choice she must make with Carly now in the equation. Carly isn't facing trump or Cruz, Hillary has to.

There is an established strategy for defeating Fiorina. Just look at her 2010 Senate bid when she lost even despite a republican wave sweeping into power. She's an incredibly weak candidate.

And I want to reemphasize that there is absolutely zero chance Cruz gets any Sanders supporters. Trump maybe, if he can connect to their anti-establishment sentiment.

Who is the bigger joke in this? Cruz or Carly? I mean, couldn't he find anyone better? And, why would anyone accept the VP spot in a campaign circling the rim? It's ridiculous.

Also, I don't see so called liberal 'anti-establishment' candidates supporting Trump who as we all know has to at least make a little sense to mainstream Republicans in a general election.

I can't predict the future. All I know is that Cruz is a creep and has done nothing but embarrass the country since getting elected into office. And not a single vote he gets in the primary is a pro-Cruz vote, it's a pro-establishment vote for a brokered convention. Where odds are neither Cruz or Trump will be the nominee.