The real reason Trump fired Comey (simpler than you think)

[SmokeALib]

He should have fired the clown on inauguration day.
Timing is everything...

 

[jknowgood]

You are ass backwards. First off, maggot, people in this country are innocent until proven guilty.

Tell that to the immigrants being rounded up in the streets.

They broke the law coming here without going through the legal process. They get what they deserve.

 

[Iceweasel]

You are ass backwards. First off, maggot, people in this country are innocent until proven guilty.

Tell that to the immigrants being rounded up in the streets.

LOL, you think coming here illegally is legal. Your brain is gone.

 

[Seawytch]

I've heard and read a lot of analysis about the Comey firing this week. I think most of it is a breathless and overworked. The reason Trump fired Comey, and the reason he did so in the way he did, is simple: He wanted to give the finger to Comey and anybody else who thinks he colluded with Russia to win the election.

We've been talking about a possible Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy for, what, almost eight months? Really since about ten minutes after Trump beat the odds and won the election, people have been seeking to undermine his win. Trump might be petty (as hell) and impetuous, but he's pragmatic, and has clearly demonstrated good political instincts.

Trump's thoughts on this is that he knows deep down that he did nothing wrong. He didn't call up Putin or anybody else and have them "meddle" in the election. He's probably still skeptical it was even Russia who was behind the DNC being hacked, and even if it was a hack and Russia did it, Hillary managed to win 2.5 million more votes than him in the election but she couldn't pull off 100K between three states she barely bothered to campaign in.

He was pissed off that Comey won't simply go on record and say what he knows is true and what Comey has told him, which is that while Trump was implicated in the narrative simply because it was a political controversy, they have found no evidence of collusion on his part, and he is no longer being investigated. He won't correct the narrative by saying that this is a counterintelligence investigation, not a criminal one (the difference being the latter has a legal framework and strings attached that require the FBI, at some point, wrap up the investigation; the former can go on in perpetuity since they're dealing with hostile foreign actors). In addition, per Sally Yates, the FBI isn't terribly interested in determining who leaked Mike Flynn's name, something that constituted an actual violation of federal law.

He also knows that Democrats and the media have been beating the drum of him colluding with Russia and would like the cloud of an FBI investigation to linger over his head so they can justify #Resistance for the next 2-4 years.

So Trump, true to form, fired Comey out of the blue. It wasn't impulsive nor was it stupid. If he had done it "diplomatically", we would've been subjected to further headlines from "sources" saying Trump was trying to manage Comey out "just as the Russia investigation ramps up", which I'm sure he knew. He wasn't concerned with looking guilty as a result of it because to most of his detractors he looks guilty anyway.

Trump's talent is being able to convey and to channel his supporters' sense of "fuck you". He doesn't give a shit about how it looks; not because he's so impulsive that he can't be bothered with the optics, but because he isn't concerned about looking innocent and he's not about to lay down for people who don't fuck with him to begin with. If you believe Trump cheated to win the election, he could've fired Comey, not fired Comey, or did the hokie-pokie and turned himself around, and you would still believe the same thing.

Have you seen the Dutch investigation?

Bingo. We're gonna get the dirt...it's just likely to come from France, Germany, the UK or our own US Press.

 

[Billo_Really]

LOL, you think coming here illegally is legal. Your brain is gone.

I don't think its an issue we should be spending so much time on.

 

[Billo_Really]

They broke the law coming here without going through the legal process. They get what they deserve.

If they are here contributing to the economy and not breaking any laws, deportation is not what they deserve.

 

[Iceweasel]

LOL, you think coming here illegally is legal. Your brain is gone.

I don't think its an issue we should be spending so much time on.

A country with no control over immigration will soon cease to be a country.

 

[Iceweasel]

They broke the law coming here without going through the legal process. They get what they deserve.

If they are here contributing to the economy and not breaking any laws, deportation is not what they deserve.

If they are here illegally they are breaking the laws. What is it about illegals that has libs up in arms? Is it the votes?

 

[Billo_Really]

A country with no control over immigration will soon cease to be a country.

A country with an uninformed republic, will cease to be a country. And an informed republic would know there are worse issues to be dealing with than minimum wage workers.

 

[Billo_Really]

If they are here illegally they are breaking the laws. What is it about illegals that has libs up in arms? Is it the votes?

They're simply undocumented. If they contribute to the economy, that's a good thing.

 

[Iceweasel]

A country with no control over immigration will soon cease to be a country.

A country with an uninformed republic, will cease to be a country. And an informed republic would know there are worse issues to be dealing with than minimum wage workers.

Huh? You went off on a tangent. People that support legal immigration laws are uninformed? You make no sense.

 

[Iceweasel]

If they are here illegally they are breaking the laws. What is it about illegals that has libs up in arms? Is it the votes?

They're simply undocumented. If they contribute to the economy, that's a good thing.

Yeah, like a drug dealer is an undocumented pharmacist.

 

[koshergrl]

I've heard and read a lot of analysis about the Comey firing this week. I think most of it is a breathless and overworked. The reason Trump fired Comey, and the reason he did so in the way he did, is simple: He wanted to give the finger to Comey and anybody else who thinks he colluded with Russia to win the election.

We've been talking about a possible Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy for, what, almost eight months? Really since about ten minutes after Trump beat the odds and won the election, people have been seeking to undermine his win. Trump might be petty (as hell) and impetuous, but he's pragmatic, and has clearly demonstrated good political instincts.

Trump's thoughts on this is that he knows deep down that he did nothing wrong. He didn't call up Putin or anybody else and have them "meddle" in the election. He's probably still skeptical it was even Russia who was behind the DNC being hacked, and even if it was a hack and Russia did it, Hillary managed to win 2.5 million more votes than him in the election but she couldn't pull off 100K between three states she barely bothered to campaign in.

He was pissed off that Comey won't simply go on record and say what he knows is true and what Comey has told him, which is that while Trump was implicated in the narrative simply because it was a political controversy, they have found no evidence of collusion on his part, and he is no longer being investigated. He won't correct the narrative by saying that this is a counterintelligence investigation, not a criminal one (the difference being the latter has a legal framework and strings attached that require the FBI, at some point, wrap up the investigation; the former can go on in perpetuity since they're dealing with hostile foreign actors). In addition, per Sally Yates, the FBI isn't terribly interested in determining who leaked Mike Flynn's name, something that constituted an actual violation of federal law.

He also knows that Democrats and the media have been beating the drum of him colluding with Russia and would like the cloud of an FBI investigation to linger over his head so they can justify #Resistance for the next 2-4 years.

So Trump, true to form, fired Comey out of the blue. It wasn't impulsive nor was it stupid. If he had done it "diplomatically", we would've been subjected to further headlines from "sources" saying Trump was trying to manage Comey out "just as the Russia investigation ramps up", which I'm sure he knew. He wasn't concerned with looking guilty as a result of it because to most of his detractors he looks guilty anyway.

Trump's talent is being able to convey and to channel his supporters' sense of "fuck you". He doesn't give a shit about how it looks; not because he's so impulsive that he can't be bothered with the optics, but because he isn't concerned about looking innocent and he's not about to lay down for people who don't fuck with him to begin with. If you believe Trump cheated to win the election, he could've fired Comey, not fired Comey, or did the hokie-pokie and turned himself around, and you would still believe the same thing.

I think why Comey was fired and why it was done now are two entirely separate questions. While Comey may have been a competent administrator he clearly didn't have the backbone to avoid being bullied into political issues by the corrupt Obama administration, so he meekly followed Lynch's efforts to cover up crimes in connection with the Clinton email server and shut down the investigation of the Clinton Foundation over the objections of his own agents for fear of being accused of interfering with the election and then, perhaps out of feelings of self disgust about these cowardly actions, he sent that letter to Congress in a clumsy attempt to assert his independence. After the election he continued to grandstand, as the President correctly asserted, on the baseless Trump Russia investigation in a foolish attempt to dispel allegations he had thrown the election in favor of Trump and finally he blatantly lied to the Senate about how many emails and how much classified material was on Antony Weiner's computer to try to answer these same accusations of having cost Clinton the election with the letter to Congress. All of these things show clearly that by character and temperament Comey was unfit for the job of FBI Director. That's why he was fired.

I believe he was fired at this time because the WH mistakenly believed after he lied to the Senate about his reasons for writing that final letter, Democrats would have no choice but to support this action, but the Trump WH clearly had no idea how profoundly corrupt the leadership of the Democratic Party is.

Wow!

Could not disagree any more than I do! You are wrong on most everything in your post!

BOY oh BOY is our country in trouble when 2 decent citizens can see things SOOOO differently!!!

You aren't decent.

Trump fired comey cuz he wasn't doing his job.

 

[jknowgood]

They broke the law coming here without going through the legal process. They get what they deserve.

If they are here contributing to the economy and not breaking any laws, deportation is not what they deserve.

THEY BROKE THE LAW COMING HERE ILLEGALLY. WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

 

[koshergrl]

They broke the law coming here without going through the legal process. They get what they deserve.

If they are here contributing to the economy and not breaking any laws, deportation is not what they deserve.

If they are here illegally and using other ppls social security numbers, they're breaking the law.

 

[Billo_Really]

THEY BROKE THE LAW COMING HERE ILLEGALLY. WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

You changed lanes without signalling. You broke the law. If that person contributes more to the economy than you do, then you're the one who should go away.

 

[Billo_Really]

If they are here illegally and using other ppls social security numbers, they're breaking the law.

But what they are doing here could be a benefit to society.

 

[jknowgood]

They broke the law coming here without going through the legal process. They get what they deserve.

If they are here contributing to the economy and not breaking any laws, deportation is not what they deserve.

If they are here illegally and using other ppls social security numbers, they're breaking the law.

Yes and since most don't pay taxes and live 20 to a house. They can work for almost nothing. Costing Americans jobs.

 

[Billo_Really]

You aren't decent.

Trump fired comey cuz he wasn't doing his job.

He fired Comey for the same reason Nixon fired Archibald Cox.

 

[jknowgood]

THEY BROKE THE LAW COMING HERE ILLEGALLY. WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

You changed lanes without signalling. You broke the law. If that person contributes more to the economy than you do, then you're the one who should go away.

By working cheaper than our fellow Americans?