The Real Thanksgiving... Socialism’s first American Fail. Capitalism’s First American Triumph.

[Vastator]

Its too bad schools don’t teach history anymore. If they did; this current generation of Millenial Socialists would already know how this story ends. After all it’s been told before. Time, and time again. But for the Millenial it’s brand new! Unfortunately this tale is as old as human nature. And it always ends the same way...
So for my Capitalist friends I bring you this tiding of Holiday knowledge. And for our leftist NPCs I’ll save you the trouble of educating yourselves by positing on your behalf... “TL; DW”... Damned attention span...
So for all the board; I present to you... the real Story of...
Thanksgiving!!!
Enjoy! Or cry into your pillow... Whichever you prefer...

 

[OldLady]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

 

[Vastator]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

 

[Toronado3800]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

 

[Vastator]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

 

[Toronado3800]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Yup, you need capitalism for society to work thanks to human nature.

Will you agree with me that we need some controls on that capitalism? Once again because of human nature.

 

[BlackFlag]

Everyone knows the pilgrims came here because England wouldn’t let them practice Marxism and worship Allah

 

[Vastator]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Yup, you need capitalism for society to work thanks to human nature.

Will you agree with me that we need some controls on that capitalism? Once again because of human nature.

Taken to the extreme?
“Yes”.

 

[Toronado3800]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Yup, you need capitalism for society to work thanks to human nature.

Will you agree with me that we need some controls on that capitalism? Once again because of human nature.

Taken to the extreme?
“Yes”.

Cool.

I have this thing that we argue about percentages of capitalism. Should we be 92% capitalist or have that minimum wage law that makes us 91.9% capitalist, that type of thing gets us all riled up and makes name callers out of folks.

 

[Vastator]

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Yup, you need capitalism for society to work thanks to human nature.

Will you agree with me that we need some controls on that capitalism? Once again because of human nature.

Taken to the extreme?
“Yes”.

Cool.

I have this thing that we argue about percentages of capitalism. Should we be 92% capitalist or have that minimum wage law that makes us 91.9% capitalist, that type of thing gets us all riled up and makes name callers out of folks.

No minimum wage. Federally enforced anyway...
If you can’t get workers to show up? Offer more money. That’s capitalism...

 

[Toronado3800]

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Yup, you need capitalism for society to work thanks to human nature.

Will you agree with me that we need some controls on that capitalism? Once again because of human nature.

Taken to the extreme?
“Yes”.

Cool.

I have this thing that we argue about percentages of capitalism. Should we be 92% capitalist or have that minimum wage law that makes us 91.9% capitalist, that type of thing gets us all riled up and makes name callers out of folks.

No minimum wage. Federally enforced anyway...
If you can’t get workers to show up? Offer more money. That’s capitalism...

Maybe we can get together on this one.

I like some federal laws so our relatively easy to buy aldermen can't go competing with each other to pick the winners in this world by paying for Amazon centers or football stadiums.

If Springfield 14 wants to lower taxes to attract businesses, great. I just don't think they should offer money for any ONE business and I don't know how to stop that w/o federal regulation.

 

[Vastator]

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Yup, you need capitalism for society to work thanks to human nature.

Will you agree with me that we need some controls on that capitalism? Once again because of human nature.

Taken to the extreme?
“Yes”.

Cool.

I have this thing that we argue about percentages of capitalism. Should we be 92% capitalist or have that minimum wage law that makes us 91.9% capitalist, that type of thing gets us all riled up and makes name callers out of folks.

No minimum wage. Federally enforced anyway...
If you can’t get workers to show up? Offer more money. That’s capitalism...

Maybe we can get together on this one.

I like some federal laws so our relatively easy to buy aldermen can't go competing with each other to pick the winners in this world by paying for Amazon centers or football stadiums.

If Springfield 14 wants to lower taxes to attract businesses, great. I just don't think they should offer money for any ONE business and I don't know how to stop that w/o federal regulation.

Anarcho-capitalism fixes this. Once one combines the power of a “state, (which also means power of violent force)...
It’s no longer true capitalism...

 

[Toronado3800]

Yup, you need capitalism for society to work thanks to human nature.

Will you agree with me that we need some controls on that capitalism? Once again because of human nature.

Taken to the extreme?
“Yes”.

Cool.

I have this thing that we argue about percentages of capitalism. Should we be 92% capitalist or have that minimum wage law that makes us 91.9% capitalist, that type of thing gets us all riled up and makes name callers out of folks.

No minimum wage. Federally enforced anyway...
If you can’t get workers to show up? Offer more money. That’s capitalism...

Maybe we can get together on this one.

I like some federal laws so our relatively easy to buy aldermen can't go competing with each other to pick the winners in this world by paying for Amazon centers or football stadiums.

If Springfield 14 wants to lower taxes to attract businesses, great. I just don't think they should offer money for any ONE business and I don't know how to stop that w/o federal regulation.

Anarcho-capitalism fixes this. Once one combines the power of a “state, (which also means power of violent force)...
It’s no longer true capitalism...

I'm pretty moderate. We've done well with what we have so Anarcho-capitalism sounds like a needless risk to me.

What can we do to keep 50 Springfields from all competing against eachother to the detriment of America and the benefit of a corporation?

 

[Vastator]

Taken to the extreme?
“Yes”.

Cool.

I have this thing that we argue about percentages of capitalism. Should we be 92% capitalist or have that minimum wage law that makes us 91.9% capitalist, that type of thing gets us all riled up and makes name callers out of folks.

No minimum wage. Federally enforced anyway...
If you can’t get workers to show up? Offer more money. That’s capitalism...

Maybe we can get together on this one.

I like some federal laws so our relatively easy to buy aldermen can't go competing with each other to pick the winners in this world by paying for Amazon centers or football stadiums.

If Springfield 14 wants to lower taxes to attract businesses, great. I just don't think they should offer money for any ONE business and I don't know how to stop that w/o federal regulation.

Anarcho-capitalism fixes this. Once one combines the power of a “state, (which also means power of violent force)...
It’s no longer true capitalism...

I'm pretty moderate. We've done well with what we have so Anarcho-capitalism sounds like a needless risk to me.

What can we do to keep 50 Springfields from all competing against eachother to the detriment of America and the benefit of a corporation?

Anarchies capitalism...
Which would prevent corporations from amassing enough power, to influence government to assist them in stifling competition...

 

[Toronado3800]

Cool.

I have this thing that we argue about percentages of capitalism. Should we be 92% capitalist or have that minimum wage law that makes us 91.9% capitalist, that type of thing gets us all riled up and makes name callers out of folks.

No minimum wage. Federally enforced anyway...
If you can’t get workers to show up? Offer more money. That’s capitalism...

Maybe we can get together on this one.

I like some federal laws so our relatively easy to buy aldermen can't go competing with each other to pick the winners in this world by paying for Amazon centers or football stadiums.

If Springfield 14 wants to lower taxes to attract businesses, great. I just don't think they should offer money for any ONE business and I don't know how to stop that w/o federal regulation.

Anarcho-capitalism fixes this. Once one combines the power of a “state, (which also means power of violent force)...
It’s no longer true capitalism...

I'm pretty moderate. We've done well with what we have so Anarcho-capitalism sounds like a needless risk to me.

What can we do to keep 50 Springfields from all competing against eachother to the detriment of America and the benefit of a corporation?

Anarchies capitalism...
Which would prevent corporations from amassing enough power, to influence government to assist them in stifling competition...

The word Anarchy worries me but we're shooting for the same goal. Perhaps you can shoot me a link or explain better.

When I hear anarchy I think about folks ignoring stop signs lol.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Why cater to this lazy a... There's no desire to learn anything.

 

[OldLady]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

I watched the first half of the video--enough to get the drift. There were many reasons for the rough beginning and eventual success of the colony, but one thing Stefan failed to point out was that between 1620 and 1624, when suddenly the colonists were able to produce enough corn to survive, four ships carrying new "recruits" had arrived in Plymouth. It was not just the handful of survivors of that terrible first winter. More people were available, homes on land had been built and were much more healthy, etc.

The Mayflower had been delayed from leaving until September, and as we all know, you can't plant anything in Massachusetts in November or December, which is when Plymouth was selected as a site. It was too late to build homes on land so they had to spend the winter in the cramped ship, and they were weakened from poor diet causing scurvy and diseases that healthy people would usually fight off. If every single one of them had been farmers, it would not have mattered one whit that first year.

They did not come to America with seed for native corn. The Native Americans introduced that to the Pilgrims. It saved them, not capitalist greed.

I am not saying that Stefan is lying, but I believe he is taking one very small piece of the colonists' situation and blowing it up out of all proportion in order to make an argument against communism.

And btw, it was certainly ridiculous for him to say that they were a bunch of welfare bums. I could have stopped listening right there, but I soldiered on.

 

[Toronado3800]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Why cater to this lazy a... There's no desire to learn anything.

Your lack of understanding is an indication of your limitations when it comes to training or educating a large group of folks.

I dislike videos and prefer written instructions. People speak slower than I read and I can't go back and forth as easily since I must move at least my thumbs not just my eyes.

Minor complaints but hey, gimme a choice and I'll takea pagebof written instructions.

Videos do have a place training folks who are not familiar with how to do something physical. Origami is something I donnot take naturally and when I feel like learning a video is helpful. If one were not familiar with a car and needed to see how to change an oil filter adapter gasket on a MarkVIII a video would be helpful. In that case I just "need" instructions.

Political theory, let me read it all day long unless you have a very attractive or attractive sounding woman speaking.

 

[OldLady]

The only Thanksgiving threads I've seen so far have been by right wingers trashing the left--the out of control insane crazy socialist lefties who all hate Thanksgiving are home making cranberry sauce and stuffing and getting ready for a house full tomorrow.

LOL

You people are absolutely hateful. But I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, anyway.

You claim to be an educator yourself; no? Why not suffer yourself, a taste of your own “medicine” on behalf of those you would pretend to “ educate”. It’s all factual, and likely completely unknown to you. It’s called “non-Fiction”. And it’s the real story of “Thanksgiving”.
But fret not. I’ll save you the trouble, and posit on your behalf “TL; DW”...

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Why cater to this lazy a... There's no desire to learn anything.

Your lack of understanding is an indication of your limitations when it comes to training or educating a large group of folks.

I dislike videos and prefer written instructions. People speak slower than I read and I can't go back and forth as easily since I must move at least my thumbs not just my eyes.

Minor complaints but hey, gimme a choice and I'll takea pagebof written instructions.

Videos do have a place training folks who are not familiar with how to do something physical. Origami is something I donnot take naturally and when I feel like learning a video is helpful. If one were not familiar with a car and needed to see how to change an oil filter adapter gasket on a MarkVIII a video would be helpful. In that case I just "need" instructions.

Political theory, let me read it all day long unless you have a very attractive or attractive sounding woman speaking.

That guy was definitely not attractive.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Can you explain it to me? I despise videos. Listening is SOOO much slower than reading.

The original settlers adopted a socialist policy of government. It cost them the lives of over half their population, through apathy, and theft. Only after introducing “profit” did their production boon. Thus saving, and ensuring the prosperity of the colonies...

Yup, you need capitalism for society to work thanks to human nature.

Will you agree with me that we need some controls on that capitalism? Once again because of human nature.

Taken to the extreme?
“Yes”.

Cool.

I have this thing that we argue about percentages of capitalism. Should we be 92% capitalist or have that minimum wage law that makes us 91.9% capitalist, that type of thing gets us all riled up and makes name callers out of folks.

No minimum wage. Federally enforced anyway...
If you can’t get workers to show up? Offer more money. That’s capitalism...

Children working in coal mines use to be capitalism too -- but the mean ole government stepped in -- due to the response of labor unions organizing and being mean to capitalism...


Truth of the matter is capitalism couldn't exist without government