The return of the Poll Tax

[miketx]

The expected nonsense from the same old same old.

I see.

Thank you for confirming blacks are indeed handicapped. Mostly, IMO, in the thinking department.

 

[IM2]

OP is a moron, this thread is shit.

If he came to FL, he'd be in FSP within 90 days.

Ever wonder what happened to criminals in New Orleans?

They came here after Katrina, they're still in FSP.

We don't play that here.

This applies to me too, you break the law, you're fucking going. Lake Butler bound.

Florida State Prison.

Raiford. I have a friend that went to Raiford when he was 16, he got out in 2 1/2 years. Then he got his ass blown off messin' with a redneck. Half his ass, anyway. With a 30-.06 that redneck shot his ass.
Let it be know FL does not tolerate lawbreakers. We got 1/2 of New Orleans hoodlums up in there right now, and they are not welcome, we're from here and they're not, get it? True story.

The OP is true and if I came to Florida you would end up being ass out. The world there doesn't operate how you say. I know so. So stop lying about how all the blacks in Florida just love your racist ass and how they would turn on me if I dared to talk about white racism. Seems that Andrew Gillam was pretty loud about his opposition to racism and blacks didn't turn on him. So just move on girlie nan.

You know nothing about teh Florida, boy. You're up there in yankeestan, well, we don't play that shit here.

Hey, you know when i saw a rioter get shot in the head trying to firebomb National Guardsmen?

The man that shot him was black. It was right in front of Earl's supermarket, wherever that was. He fucking laid his ass out, and then some! Why is a motherfucker wearing a wool long-sleeve shirt at that time of year? Who cares? He got his head blown off for being a dumbass, just like IM2
O my! They had them .223 bullets. Welp, I reckon they worked for them that day. I'm not a fan, but it kept the guys on the left corner safe.

Shut up punk. You told that story before. Blacks don't tolerate racists anywhere and that includes Florida. There ain't no yankeestan girlie man.The lost cause is dead.

C'mon down heanh bitch, with your bad self then.

What for? You aren't worth time in prison.

Now stay on topic.

 

[Wry Catcher]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

If the terms of the sentence included payment of fees and fines, what's your fucking problem?

.

It is a poll tax. That aside, your side of the aisle are fools.

Let's consider you get a parking ticket, and choose to protest it. The protest takes time, and during that period an election occurs and you are sent away without the ability to vote.

Wow,, great little strawman, did you bother to read the OP, completion of a sentence is required to restore rights. If fees and fines are part of that sentence, it is not completed until they are paid. A fucking parking ticket, pending or not will not cause the loss of voting rights.

.

So you say. It that clear in the bill?

 

[IM2]

OP is a moron, this thread is shit.

If he came to FL, he'd be in FSP within 90 days.

Ever wonder what happened to criminals in New Orleans?

They came here after Katrina, they're still in FSP.

We don't play that here.

This applies to me too, you break the law, you're fucking going. Lake Butler bound.

Florida State Prison.

Raiford. I have a friend that went to Raiford when he was 16, he got out in 2 1/2 years. Then he got his ass blown off messin' with a redneck. Half his ass, anyway. With a 30-.06 that redneck shot his ass.
Let it be know FL does not tolerate lawbreakers. We got 1/2 of New Orleans hoodlums up in there right now, and they are not welcome, we're from here and they're not, get it? True story.

The OP is true and if I came to Florida you would end up being ass out. The world there doesn't operate how you say. I know so. So stop lying about how all the blacks in Florida just love your racist ass and how they would turn on me if I dared to talk about white racism. Seems that Andrew Gillam was pretty loud about his opposition to racism and blacks didn't turn on him. So just move on girlie nan.

You know nothing about teh Florida, boy. You're up there in yankeestan, well, we don't play that shit here.

Hey, you know when i saw a rioter get shot in the head trying to firebomb National Guardsmen?

The man that shot him was black. It was right in front of Earl's supermarket, wherever that was. He fucking laid his ass out, and then some! Why is a motherfucker wearing a wool long-sleeve shirt at that time of year? Who cares? He got his head blown off for being a dumbass, just like IM2
O my! They had them .223 bullets. Welp, I reckon they worked for them that day. I'm not a fan, but it kept the guys on the left corner safe.

Shut up punk. You told that story before. Blacks don't tolerate racists anywhere and that includes Florida. There ain't no yankeestan girlie man.The lost cause is dead.

C'mon down heanh bitch, with your bad self then. The blacks would eat you alive, yah. Florida blacks are real, bitch.

Yawn! Like I've never been to Florida or known any blacks from there .

 

[Meathead]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

Hey, we need the money to get reparations to you DeShawn.

 

[Wry Catcher]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

If the terms of the sentence included payment of fees and fines, what's your fucking problem?

.

It is a poll tax. That aside, your side of the aisle are fools.

Let's consider you get a parking ticket, and choose to protest it. The protest takes time, and during that period an election occurs and you are sent away without the ability to vote.

Wow,, great little strawman, did you bother to read the OP, completion of a sentence is required to restore rights. If fees and fines are part of that sentence, it is not completed until they are paid. A fucking parking ticket, pending or not will not cause the loss of voting rights.

.

So you say. It that clear in the bill?

How about on an appeal, convicted, sentenced and awaiting the appeal to be decided by the appellate court, en banc?

 

[IM2]

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Just the criminals.

 

[pinqy]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

And that is not a poll tax. A poll tax is a tax on a person for simply existing.

I know what a poll tax is. My parents and grandparents faced them. This is a poll tax.

No, you don’t. A poll tax aka capitation tax aka head tax is a tax on a person at a set amount, e.g a $20 tax for each person age 18 and older in a household.

Because some states set up poll taxes and made payment a requirement for voting, many Americans mistakenly believe that a poll tax is a tax payment to gain the right to vote.

Some also confuse use of “poll tax” and think it relates to “polling place” when the fact is that both just use the same Greek root and are not otherwise related.

The 24th amendment forbids requiring a poll tax or any other tax in order to vote.

The Florida legislation denies the vote to those who haven’t paid individual court fines. Only in the case of a fine for failure to pay taxes would this violate the 24th amendment.

I think it’s wrong, and violates the principles of the 24th amendment, but it’s not unconstitutional.

Laws can be both constitutional and bad.

 

[IM2]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

Hey, we need the money to get reparations to you DeShawn.

The next off topic post will be reported Jethro.

 

[Edgetho]

And so what you're saying is that you don't mind suppressing the right to vote of Americans because they are democrats. You are a fascist.

No, what I'm saying, fuckface, is that voting is a PRIVILEGE and NOT a right.

When those dimocrap scum criminals got convicted of a crime, they lost the PRIVILEGE to vote.

Lots of people don't get the PRIVILEGE of voting in this Country...... Like people under 18, to start with. Citizens of other Countries living here......Criminal dimocrap scum are just one of them.

No surprise discovering that the scum of the fucking Earth, dimocap FILTH, want to allow other scum to vote.

So you're good with letting a convicted rapist vote against a person who wants to toughen Rape Laws?

No shock there. It's probably the only way you can get laid anyway.

You're okay with letting convicted Bank Robbers vote against putting cameras outside Banks in order to monitor murdering thieves?

Figures.

dimocraps are scum

 

[OKTexas]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

If the terms of the sentence included payment of fees and fines, what's your fucking problem?

.

It is a poll tax. That aside, your side of the aisle are fools.

Let's consider you get a parking ticket, and choose to protest it. The protest takes time, and during that period an election occurs and you are sent away without the ability to vote.

Wow,, great little strawman, did you bother to read the OP, completion of a sentence is required to restore rights. If fees and fines are part of that sentence, it is not completed until they are paid. A fucking parking ticket, pending or not will not cause the loss of voting rights.

.

So you say. It that clear in the bill?

voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence

.

 

[IM2]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

And that is not a poll tax. A poll tax is a tax on a person for simply existing.

I know what a poll tax is. My parents and grandparents faced them. This is a poll tax.

No, you don’t. A poll tax aka capitation tax aka head tax is a tax on a person at a set amount, e.g a $20 tax for each person age 18 and older in a household.

Because some states set up poll taxes and made payment a requirement for voting, many Americans mistakenly believe that a poll tax is a tax payment to gain the right to vote.

Some also confuse use of “poll tax” and think it relates to “polling place” when the fact is that both just use the same Greek root and are not otherwise related.

The 24th amendment forbids requiring a poll tax or any other tax in order to vote.

The Florida legislation denies the vote to those who haven’t paid individual court fines. Only in the case of a fine for failure to pay taxes would this violate the 24th amendment.

I think it’s wrong, and violates the principles of the 24th amendment, but it’s not unconstitutional.

Laws can be both constitutional and bad.

I do and I'm not going to play semantics about this bullshit bill. If something violated the principles of the constitution it cannot be constitutional. The referendum was passed by a majority in this state and it did not include the republican provision. That's enough for me.

 

[IM2]

And so what you're saying is that you don't mind suppressing the right to vote of Americans because they are democrats. You are a fascist.

No, what I'm saying, fuckface, is that voting is a PRIVILEGE and NOT a right.

When those dimocrap scum criminals got convicted of a crime, they lost the PRIVILEGE to vote.

Lots of people don't get the PRIVILEGE of voting in this Country...... Like people under 18, to start with. Citizens of other Countries living here......Criminal dimocrap scum are just one of them.

No surprise discovering that the scum of the fucking Earth, dimocap FILTH, want to allow other scum to vote.

So you're good with letting a convicted rapist vote against a person who wants to toughen Rape Laws?

No shock there. It's probably the only way you can get laid anyway.

You're okay with letting convicted Bank Robbers vote against putting cameras outside Banks in order to monitor murdering thieves?

Figures.

dimocraps are scum

You make no sense.

 

[pinqy]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

And that is not a poll tax. A poll tax is a tax on a person for simply existing.

I know what a poll tax is. My parents and grandparents faced them. This is a poll tax.

No, you don’t. A poll tax aka capitation tax aka head tax is a tax on a person at a set amount, e.g a $20 tax for each person age 18 and older in a household.

Because some states set up poll taxes and made payment a requirement for voting, many Americans mistakenly believe that a poll tax is a tax payment to gain the right to vote.

Some also confuse use of “poll tax” and think it relates to “polling place” when the fact is that both just use the same Greek root and are not otherwise related.

The 24th amendment forbids requiring a poll tax or any other tax in order to vote.

The Florida legislation denies the vote to those who haven’t paid individual court fines. Only in the case of a fine for failure to pay taxes would this violate the 24th amendment.

I think it’s wrong, and violates the principles of the 24th amendment, but it’s not unconstitutional.

Laws can be both constitutional and bad.

I do and I'm not going to play semantics about this bullshit bill. If something violated the principles of the constitution it cannot be constitutional. The referendum was passed by a majority in this state and it did not include the republican provision. That's enough for me.

Is it a tax? No. Then it’s not unconstitutional.

That does NOT mean it’s ok, or good law, or that you should support it. You just don’t have a Constitutional case.

 

[IM2]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

If the terms of the sentence included payment of fees and fines, what's your fucking problem?

.

It is a poll tax. That aside, your side of the aisle are fools.

Let's consider you get a parking ticket, and choose to protest it. The protest takes time, and during that period an election occurs and you are sent away without the ability to vote.

Wow,, great little strawman, did you bother to read the OP, completion of a sentence is required to restore rights. If fees and fines are part of that sentence, it is not completed until they are paid. A fucking parking ticket, pending or not will not cause the loss of voting rights.

.

So you say. It that clear in the bill?

voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence

.

IM2 posted this also:

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

 

[Norman]

If the terms of the sentence included payment of fees and fines, what's your fucking problem?

.

It is a poll tax. That aside, your side of the aisle are fools.

Let's consider you get a parking ticket, and choose to protest it. The protest takes time, and during that period an election occurs and you are sent away without the ability to vote.

Wow,, great little strawman, did you bother to read the OP, completion of a sentence is required to restore rights. If fees and fines are part of that sentence, it is not completed until they are paid. A fucking parking ticket, pending or not will not cause the loss of voting rights.

.

So you say. It that clear in the bill?

voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence

.

IM2 posted this also:

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Less criminals voting?

I think we will be fine.

 

[miketx]

If the terms of the sentence included payment of fees and fines, what's your fucking problem?

.

It is a poll tax. That aside, your side of the aisle are fools.

Let's consider you get a parking ticket, and choose to protest it. The protest takes time, and during that period an election occurs and you are sent away without the ability to vote.

Wow,, great little strawman, did you bother to read the OP, completion of a sentence is required to restore rights. If fees and fines are part of that sentence, it is not completed until they are paid. A fucking parking ticket, pending or not will not cause the loss of voting rights.

.

So you say. It that clear in the bill?

voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence

.

IM2 posted this also:

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Simple problem crim lover, don't commit the crime.

 

[CowboyTed]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

I have ALWAYS had a problem with the phrase, "Paid his debt to society'' because -- It's bullshit.

How do you UN-BREAK A LAW? How do you UN-MURDER someone? How do you UN-ROB a Bank??

All an ex-con has done is served his time. That POS has NOT repaid anything. He has actually COST us money to incarcerate.his sorry ass.

The ONLY reason that this is an issue is that dimocrap FILTH think they can pick up a few million votes from scum of the Earth criminals. Since virtually all criminals are dimocrap scum, they would be correct.

That's all that's going on here, people. dimocrap FILTH are trying to steal some votes.

People who have lost their PRIVILEGE to vote (it is NOT a right, it is a privilege) need to be judged on a one-at-a-time basis. And the bar needs to be set high.

We are NOT a democracy. No democracy has ever worked or survived. We are a REPUBLIC.

Republics have a rules. And one of them is -- Voting is a privilege, NOT a right.

"Voting is a privilege, NOT a right."

VOTING IS A RIGHT...

 

[Norman]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

I have ALWAYS had a problem with the phrase, "Paid his debt to society'' because -- It's bullshit.

How do you UN-BREAK A LAW? How do you UN-MURDER someone? How do you UN-ROB a Bank??

All an ex-con has done is served his time. That POS has NOT repaid anything. He has actually COST us money to incarcerate.his sorry ass.

The ONLY reason that this is an issue is that dimocrap FILTH think they can pick up a few million votes from scum of the Earth criminals. Since virtually all criminals are dimocrap scum, they would be correct.

That's all that's going on here, people. dimocrap FILTH are trying to steal some votes.

People who have lost their PRIVILEGE to vote (it is NOT a right, it is a privilege) need to be judged on a one-at-a-time basis. And the bar needs to be set high.

We are NOT a democracy. No democracy has ever worked or survived. We are a REPUBLIC.

Republics have a rules. And one of them is -- Voting is a privilege, NOT a right.

"Voting is a privilege, NOT a right."

VOTING IS A RIGHT...

Maybe in the 3rd world country you are attempting to transform US into.