The Right To Bear Arms

[danielpalos]

Our Second Amendment is not obsolete. We merely need to improve the ratio of well regulated militia to unorganized militia.

 

[The Derp]

So thoughts and prayers didn't work.

 

[danielpalos]

So thoughts and prayers didn't work.

It is a start. We should start to blame Commanders in Chief of State militias.

We have, a Second Amendment.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Our Second Amendment is not obsolete. We merely need to improve the ratio of well regulated militia to unorganized militia.

Unorganized militia also have the right to keep and bear arms.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Right or wrong, obsolete or relevant, the Second Amendment essentially means what five justices on the Supreme Court say it means.

Maybe, but when the Supreme Court says it means something other than what the Constitution intended for it to mean, then that's the whole point of it.....

Time to remove the treasonous SOBs.

Otherwise, it is We The People who have foregone the protections and opted for rule by tyranny.

THE REASON we are even at a point in history when 5 people could ignore the Constitution is because of complacency, laziness and passiveness....of GOOD men while evil men are at work.



http://www.constitution.org/powright.htm

It is not your right to step aside while evil men over rule the Constitution.....

Constitutional duties of persons under U.S. or State jurisdiction:[7]

(1) To obey laws that are constitutional and applied within their proper jurisdiction and according to their intent.

(2) To comply with the terms of legal contracts to which one is a party.

(3) To tell the truth under oath.

Constitutional duties of citizens under U.S. or State jurisdiction:[7]

(1) To preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.[6]

(2) To help enforce laws and practices that are constitutional and applied within their proper jurisdiction and according to their intent, and to resist those which are not.

(3) To serve on juries, and to render verdicts according to the constitutionality, jurisdiction, and applicability of statute and common law, and the facts of the case.

Constitutional duties of able-bodied citizens under U.S. or State jurisdiction:[7]

(1) To defend the U.S. or State, individually and through service in the Militia.

(2) To keep and bear arms.[18]

(3) To exercise general police powers to defend the community and enforce the laws, subject to legal orders of higher-ranking officials when present.[17]

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Time for reasonable gun control. Also time to update the confusing and obsolete 2nd Amendment.

If you did not have a liberal education it would not be the least bit confusing...perhaps it is time to look at the real cause of violence in America, liberalism, so while we are looking at basic freedoms to be ignored it may be time to outlaw it as a legal political cause, any reasonable person can easily draw the conclusion that gun crimes skyrocked after the conservative 50's when the liberal 60's took center stage, anyone who cannot see that should not be advocating for things like "reasonable" gun control since it is obvious they are not interested in being reasonable.

 

[The Derp]

If you did not have a liberal education it would not be the least bit confusing...perhaps it is time to look at the real cause of violence in America, liberalism, so while we are looking at basic freedoms to be ignored it may be time to outlaw it as a legal political cause, any reasonable person can easily draw the conclusion that gun crimes skyrocked after the conservative 50's when the liberal 60's took center stage, anyone who cannot see that should not be advocating for things like "reasonable" gun control since it is obvious they are not interested in being reasonable.

Despite Conservative fear-mongering, there is no violent crime epidemic in this country. Violent crime rates are at or near all-time lows. What causes an increase in violent crime is poverty.

Everything you are saying is bullshit.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

If you did not have a liberal education it would not be the least bit confusing...perhaps it is time to look at the real cause of violence in America, liberalism, so while we are looking at basic freedoms to be ignored it may be time to outlaw it as a legal political cause, any reasonable person can easily draw the conclusion that gun crimes skyrocked after the conservative 50's when the liberal 60's took center stage, anyone who cannot see that should not be advocating for things like "reasonable" gun control since it is obvious they are not interested in being reasonable.

Despite Conservative fear-mongering, there is no violent crime epidemic in this country. Violent crime rates are at or near all-time lows.

and gun ownership at an all-time high

What causes an increase in violent crime is poverty.

as long as you understand that blaming guns is not the reason then you are helping to make the rights point

Everything you are saying is bullshit.

everything you said better dismisses the lefts claims...not the rights...good job[/QUOTE]

 

[The Derp]

and gun ownership at an all-time high

There are fewer gun owners today than there were 20 years ago.

as long as you understand that blaming guns is not the reason then you are helping to make the rights point

Blaming guns is not the reason of what? Can you try to speak English and not run your Russian words through a Google translator, please?

everything you said better dismisses the lefts claims...not the rights...good job

I never said what you think I said. You're just a troll employing Russian Active Measures.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Blaming guns is not the reason of what?

the left blaming them for violent crime silly, that's what is being argued, at first I could not figure out why you were so willing to blame something other than guns, now I get it, you had no idea what it is that was being argued

Can you try to speak English and not run your Russian words through a Google translator, please?

lol, so you really did not understand what it was you were calling "incorrect and bullspit"...is that right?

I never said what you think I said.

which is what?

You're just a troll employing Russian Active Measures.

you addressed me first, now you feel like you're in over your head and are looking desperately for a way out, the fact that you choose a failed cnn fake news tactic to try and make your escape shows the depths of that desperation

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I already said one thing that would slow down the legal aquisition of bulk Ammo. Now, let's move onto another factor. The rate of fire.

You will notice that only one style of semi auto is used in the mass killings and that is the AR-15 and copies. The problem here is that they are based on 600 to 700 rate of fire full autos. That means that when work arounds are found that they can still have a tremendous rate of fire. Even the US Army, Marines and Navy has reduced theirs to a 3 shot limit per trigger pull. The Air Force still uses the Fully Automatic version.

Now, you will notice something like the Remington 750 isn't the gun of choice. While it's a semi auto as well, it has a cyclic rate of about 200 rounds a minute. I think there is also an AR looking Rem 750 based weapon that looks similiar to an AR. But it's not the weapon of choice.

The fact that the AR-15 looks like the full auto M-16 really ins't the factor. It's they high rate of potential cyclic rate of fire it has makes it ideal for modification or work arounds for mass killings.

 

[Papageorgio]

Time for reasonable gun control. Also time to update the confusing and obsolete 2nd Amendment.

Lol! Sure float meaningless ideas.

 

[danielpalos]

Our Second Amendment is not obsolete. We merely need to improve the ratio of well regulated militia to unorganized militia.

Unorganized militia also have the right to keep and bear arms.

Irrelevant. We simply need to regulate well, more gun lovers who cause problems with their guns.

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia, is Always the answer.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Our Second Amendment is not obsolete. We merely need to improve the ratio of well regulated militia to unorganized militia.

Unorganized militia also have the right to keep and bear arms.

Irrelevant. We simply need to regulate well, more gun lovers who cause problems with their guns.

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia, is Always the answer.

Regulate how? Be specific.

 

[danielpalos]

Our Second Amendment is not obsolete. We merely need to improve the ratio of well regulated militia to unorganized militia.

Unorganized militia also have the right to keep and bear arms.

Irrelevant. We simply need to regulate well, more gun lovers who cause problems with their guns.

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia, is Always the answer.

Regulate how? Be specific.

Gun lovers should be, "made corrigible", through wellness of regulation with a local State militia unit; should they have to explain their presence before the Judicature, and Only have an inferior argument.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Our Second Amendment is not obsolete. We merely need to improve the ratio of well regulated militia to unorganized militia.

Unorganized militia also have the right to keep and bear arms.

Irrelevant. We simply need to regulate well, more gun lovers who cause problems with their guns.

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia, is Always the answer.

Regulate how? Be specific.

Gun lovers should be, "made corrigible", through wellness of regulation with a local State militia unit; should they have to explain their presence before the Judicature, and Only have an inferior argument.

There is no requirement to affiliate with a government militia in order to exercise your right to own weapons.

 

[danielpalos]

Our Second Amendment is not obsolete. We merely need to improve the ratio of well regulated militia to unorganized militia.

Unorganized militia also have the right to keep and bear arms.

Irrelevant. We simply need to regulate well, more gun lovers who cause problems with their guns.

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia, is Always the answer.

Regulate how? Be specific.

Gun lovers should be, "made corrigible", through wellness of regulation with a local State militia unit; should they have to explain their presence before the Judicature, and Only have an inferior argument.

There is no requirement to affiliate with a government militia in order to exercise your right to own weapons.

I am not saying there is, for natural rights purposes. The common defense could, "dictate otherwise", but for the right wing being so clueless and so Causeless, on a potentially, for-profit basis.

 

[hunarcy]

Our Second Amendment is not obsolete. We merely need to improve the ratio of well regulated militia to unorganized militia.

Unorganized militia also have the right to keep and bear arms.

Irrelevant. We simply need to regulate well, more gun lovers who cause problems with their guns.

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia, is Always the answer.

If you weren't just a troll, I'd point out that "well-regulate" as used in the 1700's meant in good working order.

Meaning of the phrase "well-regulated"

 

[P@triot]

That ain't how it works, sparky. We use the ballot box and laws.

That ain’t how it works, spanky. We have this thing called the U.S. Constitution. It protects us from you bat-shit crazy communists. Vote all you want sweetie, our guns aren’t going anywhere.

Incidentally, I noted how conspicuously silent you were last week when people were murdered by a person in an automobile. Speaks volumes. You don’t care about human life. You care about control - and that starts by disarming people.

 

[P@triot]

The ONLY reason that the LV had over 400 casualties was that Nevada is a friggin free for all for weapons.

The only reason someone as astoundingly ignorant as you is allowed to spread misinformation is because of the 1st Amendment.

There has never been a mass shooting that caused 100 people to die - much less 400 you dimwit.