The Right To Bear Arms

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The right of who?

Militia?

Government?

First Class?

The right of WHO?

What about that right? It shall not be what?

This is so old and annoying.

I propose that anyone who tries to disarm the people shall be summarily executed.

 

[danielpalos]

The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not.

The word "people" does not mean "militia" nor the reverse. The right is not the militia's. It's the right of the people. The Heller Court made it abundantly clear that it is not a collective right, but an individual right.

Regulation, whether it be well or unwell, makes not a gnat's dick difference.

I am not well regulated. I am still am a person. I still have the right.

In the case of the US, it does. the People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or you are not.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

In the case of the US, it does. the People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or you are not.

Cool.

Still doesn't change "the right of the people (me)...shall not be infringed" does it?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

n the case of the US, it does. the People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or you are not.

...and this further demonstrates my earlier comment. You believe that People and Militia are used interchangeably.

Only the Militia has the right to assembly?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

In the case of the US, it does. the People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or you are not.

And, again on this comment, the People are the Militia?

How does that change the right of the people? What difference does it make? The right of the People/Militia is the same. People (individuals) right shall not be infringed. You have not changed anything with this argument.

Well-regulated, in this context does not mean GUN REGULATIONS. It means training.

So, if you are truly concerned with getting this well-regulated thing done, you should be getting free training and arming of all citizens and get the fuck out of our way.

 

[turtledude]

Time for reasonable gun control. Also time to update the confusing and obsolete 2nd Amendment.

reasonable gun control is only laws that change things for criminals. your idea of reasonable gun control are laws that ONLY RESTRICT what honest gun owners can do. that is not reasonable at all.

 

[turtledude]

Time for reasonable gun control. Also time to update the confusing and obsolete 2nd Amendment.

Yeah...name that reasonable gun control....you guys never seem to get past just typing the words "reasonable gun control" before you go silent.....

Reasonable Gun laws. Forget the "Control" BS. The ONLY reason that the LV had over 400 casualties was that Nevada is a friggin free for all for weapons. The shooter was able to buy multiple weapons and thousands of rounds in a very short time. What we don't need to do is to make it easier for some fruitcake to get all that amassed. It's just too easy to prevent.

Now, that would be a good start.

so in your "learned opinion" a man with two planes, a pilots license and a net worth of several million dollars wouldn't be able to get weapons if you had your pet laws in place?

 

[turtledude]

Only lousy capitalists won't make it; capital Darwinism, all the way right wingers!

Nonsense.

Only the right wing has, "non sense". The left may have, "full sense".

You're more garbled than usual. Put the bong down and go outside for a walk.

you don't have enough, fullsense, only nonsense?

No, I really mean it. Put the bong down.

he doesn't do bongs he's an artificial intelligence program created by a PhD candidate who doesn't speak English as his first or second or even third language

 

[ChrisL]

Nonsense.

Only the right wing has, "non sense". The left may have, "full sense".

You're more garbled than usual. Put the bong down and go outside for a walk.

you don't have enough, fullsense, only nonsense?

No, I really mean it. Put the bong down.

he doesn't do bongs he's an artificial intelligence program created by a PhD candidate who doesn't speak English as his first or second or even third language

IOW, a typical liberal poster.

 

[hadit]

Nonsense.

Only the right wing has, "non sense". The left may have, "full sense".

You're more garbled than usual. Put the bong down and go outside for a walk.

you don't have enough, fullsense, only nonsense?

No, I really mean it. Put the bong down.

he doesn't do bongs he's an artificial intelligence program created by a PhD candidate who doesn't speak English as his first or second or even third language

I think the candidate should fail.

 

[danielpalos]

In the case of the US, it does. the People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or you are not.

Cool.

Still doesn't change "the right of the people (me)...shall not be infringed" does it?

For natural rights or the security of a free State?

 

[danielpalos]

n the case of the US, it does. the People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or you are not.

...and this further demonstrates my earlier comment. You believe that People and Militia are used interchangeably.

Only the Militia has the right to assembly?

irrelevant special pleading. Only the right wing, does that.

There is no "right to arms to fight tyranny" in the US; we have the political process.

 

[danielpalos]

In the case of the US, it does. the People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or you are not.

And, again on this comment, the People are the Militia?

How does that change the right of the people? What difference does it make? The right of the People/Militia is the same. People (individuals) right shall not be infringed. You have not changed anything with this argument.

Well-regulated, in this context does not mean GUN REGULATIONS. It means training.

So, if you are truly concerned with getting this well-regulated thing done, you should be getting free training and arming of all citizens and get the fuck out of our way.

dear, the whole and entire difference, is wellness of regulation.

Only the unorganized militia and gun lovers, whine about not being able to keep and bear Arms, in public venues.

 

[danielpalos]

Time for reasonable gun control. Also time to update the confusing and obsolete 2nd Amendment.

reasonable gun control is only laws that change things for criminals. your idea of reasonable gun control are laws that ONLY RESTRICT what honest gun owners can do. that is not reasonable at all.

Well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State, the unorganized militia and gun lovers, not so much.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Time for reasonable gun control. Also time to update the confusing and obsolete 2nd Amendment.

reasonable gun control is only laws that change things for criminals. your idea of reasonable gun control are laws that ONLY RESTRICT what honest gun owners can do. that is not reasonable at all.

Well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State, the unorganized militia and gun lovers, not so much.

And yet, fuck you, we have the right to own guns as well.

 

[danielpalos]

Time for reasonable gun control. Also time to update the confusing and obsolete 2nd Amendment.

reasonable gun control is only laws that change things for criminals. your idea of reasonable gun control are laws that ONLY RESTRICT what honest gun owners can do. that is not reasonable at all.

Well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State, the unorganized militia and gun lovers, not so much.

And yet, fuck you, we have the right to own guns as well.

so what; only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union; defense of self and property is not covered by our Second Amendment.

 

[KissMy]

In the case of the US, it does. the People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or you are not.

Cool.

Still doesn't change "the right of the people (me)...shall not be infringed" does it?

Can n!ggers have a F-15 armed with a B-61 Nuclear Bomb & fly it over your house?

 

[Rustic]

Buy more guns and ammo...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Time for reasonable gun control. Also time to update the confusing and obsolete 2nd Amendment.

reasonable gun control is only laws that change things for criminals. your idea of reasonable gun control are laws that ONLY RESTRICT what honest gun owners can do. that is not reasonable at all.

Well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State, the unorganized militia and gun lovers, not so much.

And yet, fuck you, we have the right to own guns as well.

so what; only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union; defense of self and property is not covered by our Second Amendment.

so what; only well regulated militia may not be Infringed

You are incorrect. Again.

when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union;

My right does not require state or union.

defense of self and property is not covered by our Second Amendment

You are incorrect. Again.

 

[danielpalos]

Time for reasonable gun control. Also time to update the confusing and obsolete 2nd Amendment.

reasonable gun control is only laws that change things for criminals. your idea of reasonable gun control are laws that ONLY RESTRICT what honest gun owners can do. that is not reasonable at all.

Well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State, the unorganized militia and gun lovers, not so much.

And yet, fuck you, we have the right to own guns as well.

so what; only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union; defense of self and property is not covered by our Second Amendment.

so what; only well regulated militia may not be Infringed

You are incorrect. Again.

when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union;

My right does not require state or union.

defense of self and property is not covered by our Second Amendment

You are incorrect. Again.

Nope; it says so in our Second Amendment; only well regulated militias of the People are necessary to the security of a free State, not the People who are the unorganized militia.