The Right To Bear Arms

[there4eyeM]

If post 6819 were correct, it affirms that all those armed citizens so eager to claim being prepared for the common defense (against vague threats) should be the core of a movement to apply themselves peacefully and constructively to the clear and present danger. Stamping their feet and emitting oaths about how one rifle is not like another identical one, they totally ignore the atmosphere they are largely responsible for creating where sincere, empathetic discussion can not take place.
Those of us who rather like freedom, including firearms and the ease of obtaining them, are victims of both sides, but especially the fetishist 'gunners'.

 

[P@triot]

ibtl

This is why junior high girls should stay off of political websites. Nobody has a clue about their immature and idiotic jargon.

“Like....oh my gawd....IBTL!”

Parasites like The Old Fool are so fucking lazy, they can’t even speak or type in completel sentences.

 

[there4eyeM]

Not much response to the suggestion that the right to bear arms be exercised by the 'well organized militia' in protective community patrols around schools. This action might persuade those who presently support regulatory legislation to re-think their position. Instead, all we see from 'gunners' is insult and invective against any who are not solidly in their camp.

 

[Lakhota]

What the founders were thinking...

 

[Skull Pilot]

What the founders were thinking...

OK so now paint that picture on canvas with nothing but materials available in the 1700s then deliver it to each of us without the use of any invention post 1791

Because according to your "logic" the founders weren't thinking that computers, cars planes or any other technology could be used in the exercise of your First Amendment rights

 

[there4eyeM]

What the founders were thinking...

The 'founders' never thought anyone would yell "Fire!" in a crowded hall, either. The folly of modern society is something they could not have anticipated, but they were intelligent enough that, were they here today, they would have better suggestions than petulant intransigence over the evolution of 'rights'.

 

[FireFly]

All restrictions on guns in Missouri were removed & it's causing crime, murder & rape to rise to highest in the USA as all other cities fall.

 

[there4eyeM]

All restrictions on guns in Missouri were removed & it's causing crime, murder & rape to rise to highest in the USA as all other cities fall.

Another job for a well organized militia.
Couch-potato patriots would rather sit home polishing their 'weapons'.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The 'founders' never thought anyone would yell "Fire!" in a crowded hall, either. The folly of modern society is something they could not have anticipated, but they were intelligent enough that, were they here today, they would have better suggestions than petulant intransigence over the evolution of 'rights'.

Yelling "fire" in a crowed theatre is a malicious act. There is no prior restraint on someone yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre. Possession of a mouth and vocal chords with which to yell is not a malicious act.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What the founders were thinking...

"freedom of the press"

What the founders were thinking:

Now get the fuck off the internet, you goose-stepping Bolshevik commie TWAT!!!

 

[2aguy]

All restrictions on guns in Missouri were removed & it's causing crime, murder & rape to rise to highest in the USA as all other cities fall.

And that would be a lie.....

Gun violence and negativity bias in the Information Age

One way around the negativity bias is to remember that, as the saying goes, the plural of anecdote isn’t data. Fluctuations in data are also not automatically a trend. An illustration of this is the claim made about homicide rates in Missouri after repeal in 2007 of the requirement to have a license to purchase when buying a handgun. The murder rate in that state has moved about between 8.1 and 5.0 per hundred thousand over the last twenty years, but coming for the most part at a rate between six and seven.

Incautious reporting took a temporary rise from 2007 to 2008 as evidence that loosening gun laws is a bad thing to do, but the average of homicide rates from 2008 to 2014 is the same as that of the years 1996 to 2007, reminding us that we have to look at lots of data over time to reach supportable conclusions.

 

[2aguy]

All restrictions on guns in Missouri were removed & it's causing crime, murder & rape to rise to highest in the USA as all other cities fall.

You should understand the issue before you post about it...

The reason Missouri has a gun crime problem is the same as all other states with major cities that are controlled by democrats...

The democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail.....

Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
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When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other citie

 

[2aguy]

What the founders were thinking...

OK so now paint that picture on canvas with nothing but materials available in the 1700s then deliver it to each of us without the use of any invention post 1791

Because according to your "logic" the founders weren't thinking that computers, cars planes or any other technology could be used in the exercise of your First Amendment rights

There was a caller on the Rush Limbaugh show yesterday who made this excellent point...

He pointed out that the Founders were well aware of advancing firearm technology....but there is no way in the world they could ever understand modern telecommunications....

They already had repeating rifles, had seen advances in firearms from the blunder buss and matchlocks to flintlocks and muskets with rifled barrels...

But modern electronic communications...no way...so the 1st Amendment protections for the internet, movies, and all other electronics.....should no longer exist...according to left wing morons......

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Gun grabber logic:

Response:

"TAKE HER KNIFE!!! GET IT!!! BEFORE WE ALL DIE!!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!"

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

But modern electronic communications...no way...so the 1st Amendment protections for the internet, movies, and all other electronics.....should no longer exist...according to left wing morons......

Well, certainly there is no right to free speech on the internet or in movies/television, or radio, according to the commies.

So, I want the Government to make CNN, Rachael Madcow, and all of Hollywood to SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

 

[danielpalos]

natural rights are in State Constitutions; we should examine judicial forms of activism over applied federalism.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

"danielpalos" - ignored member

"The peoplitia's wellness of regulation, the right of the commies to keep and bear clueless and causeless grudges, shall not be infringed."

 

[danielpalos]

"danielpalos" - ignored member

"The peoplitia's wellness of regulation, the right of the commies to keep and bear clueless and causeless grudges, shall not be infringed."

I prefer the "Prussian Doctrine" to the "Ostrich Doctrine".

 

[FireFly]

All restrictions on guns in Missouri were removed & it's causing crime, murder & rape to rise to highest in the USA as all other cities fall.

You should understand the issue before you post about it...

The reason Missouri has a gun crime problem is the same as all other states with major cities that are controlled by democrats...

The democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail.....

Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other citie

Wrong! - You brainwashed idiots claimed unrestricted access to guns makes us safer & lowers crime, yet the opposite happened. Plus that story you posted is bullshit! The police department here is not overstretched! St. Louis has more police per person than any city in the USA!!!

 

[P@triot]

The left will vehemently oppose this. Know why? Because it doesn’t result in the eradication of the 2nd Amendment and it will end mass school shootings. They still need the latter to achieve the former...