The Right To Bear Arms

[westwall]

Well Regulated means IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. It has NOTHING to do with government control.

Bullshit. That well regulated militia is described in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution and it's far more specific than what you describe

The term Well Regulated was in use from the 1500's to the 1800's and describes a mechanical function, or a well run business. Try learning some English language history before you make a fool of yourself again. Put another way, why do clocks from that era have WELL REGULATED embossed on their faces?

Again...the Militia is mentioned TWICE in the Constitution. The 2A talks about a Well regulated militia and Article 1 Section 8 describes a militia that is organized, has rank, discipline and training..."Well regulated".

But hey...if you insist on continuing on this tac the DIck Act GOVERNS what remains of the militia...well regulated or not...and it covers ONLY males between 17 and 45.

AGAIN. WELL REGULATED has NOTHING to do with laws, and everything to do with being in good working order. Learn some ENGLISH!

Appealing to ignorance is a fallacy, right wingers. Fallacy is all y'all have.

And yet you are the only one demonstrating your profound ignorance on a daily basis.

 

[danielpalos]

Bullshit. That well regulated militia is described in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution and it's far more specific than what you describe

The term Well Regulated was in use from the 1500's to the 1800's and describes a mechanical function, or a well run business. Try learning some English language history before you make a fool of yourself again. Put another way, why do clocks from that era have WELL REGULATED embossed on their faces?

Again...the Militia is mentioned TWICE in the Constitution. The 2A talks about a Well regulated militia and Article 1 Section 8 describes a militia that is organized, has rank, discipline and training..."Well regulated".

But hey...if you insist on continuing on this tac the DIck Act GOVERNS what remains of the militia...well regulated or not...and it covers ONLY males between 17 and 45.

AGAIN. WELL REGULATED has NOTHING to do with laws, and everything to do with being in good working order. Learn some ENGLISH!

Appealing to ignorance is a fallacy, right wingers. Fallacy is all y'all have.

And yet you are the only one demonstrating your profound ignorance on a daily basis.

anybody can Talk. Men have arguments.

Our Constitution is Express, not Implied.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What you idiots fail to notice is that the government used its vast resources and incredible technology to overcome the potential individual opposition.

And they'd do it again if needed.

Like the Russians in Afghanistan and the Americans in Vietnam, eh Leach?

A foreign intervention is vastly different from a civil war...douchebag

You think the US military would use nukes in a civil war?

You are delusional, leach.

Look, you and your traitorous party are already waging civil war in an attempt to destroy America. So far no one has nuked you traitors. We haven't even shot you as you so richly deserve.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, I agree completely.
But the 4th and 5th amendment also show individual arms were necessary to prevent murders, robberies, pirates, gangs, natives attacks, etc. And we have even more threats these days, like LA riots, M-13, natural disasters, etc.

But this is guns could be used for such things. It doesn't mean they were protected, and it certainly doesn't mean they were protected by the 2A.

so in your vision of the USA only the government and criminals would have guns. That's exactly why the founders left Europe.

Well regulated militia are declared Necessary and shall not be Infringed, when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Well Regulated means IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. It has NOTHING to do with government control.

where does the right wing come up with their right wing fantasy?

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

We're smart, educated, and not on drugs.

Well Regulated means in good working order. Learn something, you drug addled moron.

 

[danielpalos]

But this is guns could be used for such things. It doesn't mean they were protected, and it certainly doesn't mean they were protected by the 2A.

so in your vision of the USA only the government and criminals would have guns. That's exactly why the founders left Europe.

Well regulated militia are declared Necessary and shall not be Infringed, when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

Well Regulated means IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. It has NOTHING to do with government control.

where does the right wing come up with their right wing fantasy?

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

We're smart, educated, and not on drugs.

Well Regulated means in good working order. Learn something, you drug addled moron.

the ones with the most fallacies are the dumbest.

Our Constitutions are Express not Implied.

Only the right wing is that dumb and appeal to so much ignorance.

 

[Markle]

/----/ And our Generals didn't want to invade Japan's mainland because the emperor had armed the citizens with guns and assorted weapons. In effect, there was a gun behind every shanty.

Not true at all. But cute try.

A bit of WW-II history would be beneficial to you.

 

[Markle]

Except that Japan had been trying desperately to surrender for half a year before the nukes.
It was just that they only had direct communications with the Soviets, and Truman and Stalin had agreed to pretend to be confused when they discussed the Japanese surrender offers at Potsdam. Read the Truman "Potsdam Diaries".

Malarkey!

 

[Markle]

Very poor choice because no matter how one tries to justify it, it was totally and completely illegal to attack whole cities of civilians.
There is no way to ever make that anything but a serious war crime, that sets an incredibly bad precedent.
You could almost justify attacking civilians in an democratic republic, where each individual is somewhat responsible for that the government does, but the civilians in imperial Japan were totally and completely innocent, since they had no part in starting the war.

You seem to forget the Nazi's. You also forget the Japanese attacks on multiple islands at the same time they attacked Pearl Harbor.

Civilians are frequently targeted in a war with the idea to demoralize the enemy.

The Nazi's were attacking Britain's military installations. A Nazi heavy bomber gets lost and accidentally bombs London. Churchill is understandably infuriated. Churchill orders the bombing of Berlin.

Shortly after the attack on Pearl Harbor came the surrender of the US on the peninsula of Bataan. That led to the Bataan Death march. Totally illegal.

Both Japan and the Nazi's had both brainwashed and threatened their soldiers and civilians that surrender or not fighting to the death was punishable by death. And, they meant it. With Japan, it was the Emporer who was, to them a religious figure, their god. The soldiers and civilians in the Philipines were so convinced of that horror and barbarism the American soldiers would unleash on them if they surrendered, many killed their children and committed suicide rather than be captured.

The Japanese citizenry of Japan was not armed with anything other than bamboo sharpened sticks and other weapons. The fear was not due to the Japanese being armed to the teeth with guns but rather that they would fight to the death, regardless of the casualties.

The Japanese were offered two opportunities to surrender, unconditionally. Japan refused both times. They conditioned their surrender on their Emperor in power. President Truman, demanding an unconditional surrender thus necessitating the A-Bomb being dropped on Hiroshima. Neither Hiroshima or Nagasaki were military targets. The US needed to make a point. The Japanese were offered another surrender after Hiroshima which they ignored, they never responded. After Nagasaki, the Japanese surrendered with the only condition that the Emporer would remain but as a figurehead only but with no powers. The Emporer cast the deciding vote.

 

[Markle]

Deliberately bombing civilian populations with conventional weapons is clearly a war crime. The reason the Germans and Japanese were not charged with that is because they never did it. When London was bombed, it was the industrial centers that were targeted, not residential centers. And Hitler only stupidly attacked London at all because the British had first bombed Berlin, in June of 1940, and he reacted emotionally, as the British had hoped.

Totally, 100% false. Please dig into some real history books or Amazon Prime has many excellent WW-II documentaries.

 

[Markle]

The atomic bombs had absolutely no strategic value at all. We did far more damage and killed more in every single incendiary air raid before the atomics were used. The atomic bombs had absolutely nothing at all to do with the surrender. They never even had time to get investigators to the sites to evaluate anything.

You can't make these things up. Are you pushing to get into the top five Trolls on USMB? You're getting close!

Why?

 

[H B Lowrie]

What you idiots fail to notice is that the government used its vast resources and incredible technology to overcome the potential individual opposition.

And they'd do it again if needed.

Like the Russians in Afghanistan and the Americans in Vietnam, eh Leach?

A foreign intervention is vastly different from a civil war...douchebag

You think the US military would use nukes in a civil war?

Slaughtered and genocided our way into a land mass, you think your whiteness will give them pause?

 

[ptbw forever]

What you idiots fail to notice is that the government used its vast resources and incredible technology to overcome the potential individual opposition.

And they'd do it again if needed.

Like the Russians in Afghanistan and the Americans in Vietnam, eh Leach?

A foreign intervention is vastly different from a civil war...douchebag

You think the US military would use nukes in a civil war?

Slaughtered and genocided our way into a land mass, you think your whiteness will give them pause?

Do you people have a contest every day to see who can say the dumbest shit?

 

[Uncensored2008]

What you idiots fail to notice is that the government used its vast resources and incredible technology to overcome the potential individual opposition.

And they'd do it again if needed.

Like the Russians in Afghanistan and the Americans in Vietnam, eh Leach?

A foreign intervention is vastly different from a civil war...douchebag

You think the US military would use nukes in a civil war?

Slaughtered and genocided our way into a land mass, you think your whiteness will give them pause?

So you want a race war? Why does the 12% always think that they will do well against the 63% in a race war?

BTW, to claim America engaged in genocide is beyond mere ignorance and is flat out lies.

Perhaps the most egregious act we committed was the "Trail of Tears," perpetrated by the founder of the shameful democrat party, Andrew Jackson. But as shameful as that was, it was nothing close to genocide.

Quit lying and learn some history.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

 

[H B Lowrie]

What you idiots fail to notice is that the government used its vast resources and incredible technology to overcome the potential individual opposition.

And they'd do it again if needed.

Like the Russians in Afghanistan and the Americans in Vietnam, eh Leach?

A foreign intervention is vastly different from a civil war...douchebag

You think the US military would use nukes in a civil war?

Slaughtered and genocided our way into a land mass, you think your whiteness will give them pause?

Do you people have a contest every day to see who can say the dumbest shit?

I contest the american creation myth daily, yes. Do you not know how euros came by this land mass?

 

[Flash]

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

We have the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms but this fucking oppressive government that the stupid Moon Bats love more than life itself has incrementally taken that right away.

Case in point. A few months ago a woman from Texas that was traveling through the state with her young daughter that legally owned a pistol and had not ever been accused of committing a crime was arrested in New York for the mere possession of that firearm.

If that ain't the fucking government taking away the right to keep and bear arms then nothing is. I could give many other examples where somebody that never had committed a crime was arrested for the mere possession of a firearm. In fact that is what the Heller and McDonald cases were all about. Individuals suing the fucking shithass government for making it illegal to merely possess a firearm.

 

[2aguy]

What you idiots fail to notice is that the government used its vast resources and incredible technology to overcome the potential individual opposition.

And they'd do it again if needed.

Like the Russians in Afghanistan and the Americans in Vietnam, eh Leach?

A foreign intervention is vastly different from a civil war...douchebag

You think the US military would use nukes in a civil war?

Slaughtered and genocided our way into a land mass, you think your whiteness will give them pause?

As opposed to the slaughter and genocide that already existed here? Or all over the rest of the world?

 

[Indeependent]

What you idiots fail to notice is that the government used its vast resources and incredible technology to overcome the potential individual opposition.

And they'd do it again if needed.

Like the Russians in Afghanistan and the Americans in Vietnam, eh Leach?

A foreign intervention is vastly different from a civil war...douchebag

You think the US military would use nukes in a civil war?

Slaughtered and genocided our way into a land mass, you think your whiteness will give them pause?

Shhh...don’t let anyone know the Natives were already warring with each other before the White man came along.

 

[2aguy]

What you idiots fail to notice is that the government used its vast resources and incredible technology to overcome the potential individual opposition.

And they'd do it again if needed.

Like the Russians in Afghanistan and the Americans in Vietnam, eh Leach?

A foreign intervention is vastly different from a civil war...douchebag

You think the US military would use nukes in a civil war?

Slaughtered and genocided our way into a land mass, you think your whiteness will give them pause?

Shhh...don’t let anyone know the Natives were already warring with each other before the White man came along.

And eating each other......for dinner.....

 

[H B Lowrie]

What you idiots fail to notice is that the government used its vast resources and incredible technology to overcome the potential individual opposition.

And they'd do it again if needed.

Like the Russians in Afghanistan and the Americans in Vietnam, eh Leach?

A foreign intervention is vastly different from a civil war...douchebag

You think the US military would use nukes in a civil war?

Slaughtered and genocided our way into a land mass, you think your whiteness will give them pause?

As opposed to the slaughter and genocide that already existed here? Or all over the rest of the world?

Someone knows nothing of the advanced civilizations that existed in the americas, and all over the world really, long before the euros who had contaminated their own land mass to such a syphilitic plague ridden dystopian extent, that the dregs of european society left the foul chamber pot showers of their feudal tenement slums to nautically caravan across the globe and bring their diseases across the borders of others; their male dominator God demanded it of them. Papal Bulls of the 1500s called for the extermination and cleansing of the americas.

And to see the caterwauling of their descendants now is rich, oh so rich.