LogikAndReazon
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Higher taxes, for economic growth !!! Lmfao
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Higher taxes, for economic growth !!! Lmfao
you are afraid of inclusion too jones.....come on tell me im wrong....Wrong.Importing the world's poor and expanding poverty is not doing this country any good. It's destructive.
And here's an example of the unwarranted fear of change, diversity, and inclusion common to most on the right, confirming the accuracy of the thread premise.
you are as bad as dottie.....anyone says something you dont like,just put them on ignore....pussies do that danny....are you one?...You little cock sucker!Why do they want to keep it this way, simple this is how the perceive this country, Right now the controllers of the regressive party are more then happy, they have achieved what they wanted. All the new wealth of this country in the last 30+ years has gone to the top top tier, while at the same time putting the middle class and poor deeper and deeper in dept to guess who. It's to a point now that people are feeding their families with credit card debt.
I'll remind you people that capitalism can't exist without the promise of advancement, the ability to get ahead. That is the promise of this country. Without it we will implode from the inside.
How is this done, tax policy. What did they expect would happen when The worst president in our History Reagan, gave us the trickle down lie. How about changing the upper tier tax level from 72 to 28% what did they think was going to happen. This , what is happening now, is what they thought was going to happen ,a trickle up economy that moves every increased wealth of this country to the top. Thats what Reagan wanted and he has achieved that.
You don't have enough intellectual honesty to attribute who you are C&Ping from!
Get lost asshole! Permanent Ignore.
you hate this country too jones.....just look at your posts,you dislike anyone who has a different view than you.....thats better than half the country....people like you gotta go...."The Right wants to keep this country the way it is"
Disagree.
In fact, conservatives hate the country the way it is today; they want to return America to an idealized past that never actually existed to begin with – an America that was far from ‘ideal,’ particularly for African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, gay Americans, and women.
Exactly.Conservatives want the Gilded Age back...
laissez faire capitalism, almost no environmental laws, or labor laws, or food/product safety laws, little or no workplace safety regulation, legal discrimination in hiring, no minimum wage, little or power for unions.
That's for starters.
Exactly.Conservatives want the Gilded Age back...
laissez faire capitalism, almost no environmental laws, or labor laws, or food/product safety laws, little or no workplace safety regulation, legal discrimination in hiring, no minimum wage, little or power for unions.
That's for starters.
They seek to return to a pre-Lochner paradigm completely at odds with settled and accepted Commerce Clause jurisprudence, and reinstate the wrongheaded anachronism of ‘liberty to contract.’
As the Supreme Court correctly observed in West Coast Hotel Co. v. Parrish:
“The legislature has also recognized the fact, which the experience of legislators in many States has corroborated, that the proprietors of these establishments and their operatives do not stand upon an equality, and that [p394] their interests are, to a certain extent, conflicting. The former naturally desire to obtain as much labor as possible from their employees, while the latter are often induced by the fear of discharge to conform to regulations which their judgment, fairly exercised, would pronounce to be detrimental to their health or strength. In other words, the proprietors lay down the rules and the laborers are practically constrained to obey them. In such cases, self-interest is often an unsafe guide, and the legislature may properly interpose its authority.”
West Coast Hotel Co. v. Parrish
Nothing more has to be said about your intelligence other than you support Trump. Love it, Trump is a Bigot and the old white man party is bigoted and you think they would do anything other then put more of them in jail, your a walking talking joke.The biggest thing I have noticed this scandal-plagued election year for Democrats is they have been overwhelmingly accusing Republicans of doing things....that THEY are doing, to distract people from the FACT they are doing it.
This OP is another fine example:
'The GOP wants to keep things the same."
- Yeah, that's why Trump is out there telling blacks he wants to help them, is offering them help, and declaring, "You KNOW what you're going to get with Hillary - NOTHING NEW....so why not take a chance for better?!'
The fact is the DNC, just exposed by their own words in their own emails as a bunch of racists, have not done anything for blacks since LBJ convinced blacks to trade their votes for free stuff. One Civil Rights passed, thanks to the GOP, the power they had just acquired, the progress they were making, the momentum they had...all just STOPPED!
Blacks have not made true progress in 50+ years since putting their trust in Democrats! 5-+ YEARS! Oh, they've been given more FOOD STAMPS, more WELFARE, more FREE STUFF ('OBAMA-PHONES'), but they haven't been given opportunities, given help to become more independent, opportunities to progress and improve and prosper.
Black unemployment is twice that of whites, the 1st Black President abandoned his people by not offering 1 SINGLE program to improve the plight / status of blacks, and he has focused more and put more effort into bringing illegals and 'refugees' into the country, getting THEM hooked up with free housing, getting THEM hooked up with jobs, getting THEM...hooked up. The blacks are not the DNC's favorite minorities anymore...
The fact is the Liberals already know that they HAVE the black vote so they don't have to do hardly anything else to keep it. They can throw them a few scraps (while laughing at them and mocking them in their private emails), keep them divided, and focus on bringing in millions more poor immigrants to get addicted to govt handouts in exchange for their new, fresh votes.
AND YOU THINK THE DNC WANTS THINGS TO CHANGE? They haven't changed for blacks in 50+ years...but they keep holding on, believing, because their 'massahs' keep promising and keep handing out food and 'shiny-shinies'. Now they are being betrayed - the 'massah' has a NEW 'favorite slave' now - illegals from Mexico, from Samalia, Syria.... Blacks are being asked once again to sit in th4 back of the DNC bus to make room for the illegals and the 'refugees' up front.
Don't blame the GOP! It's not the GOP who is doing it to you.
You Nazi Fuck head, defending the radicals coming into this country , ya you bet, your stupid, brain dead ass hole.What the hell does national security have to do with this thread , your Islam phobia is showing. By the way Muslims are just as welcome in this country as anyone else. Your hate party is showing through your comments.Why do they want to keep it this way, simple this is how the perceive this country, Right now the controllers of the regressive party are more then happy, they have achieved what they wanted. All the new wealth of this country in the last 30+ years has gone to the top top tier, while at the same time putting the middle class and poor deeper and deeper in dept to guess who. It's to a point now that people are feeding their families with credit card debt.
I'll remind you people that capitalism can't exist without the promise of advancement, the ability to get ahead. That is the promise of this country. Without it we will implode from the inside.
How is this done, tax policy. What did they expect would happen when The worst president in our History Reagan, gave us the trickle down lie. How about changing the upper tier tax level from 72 to 28% what did they think was going to happen. This , what is happening now, is what they thought was going to happen ,a trickle up economy that moves every increased wealth of this country to the top. Thats what Reagan wanted and he has achieved that.
So, it's 19th century thinking to want national security? Really? Just because we want people vetted so they can't import their 14th century barbaric thinking, you are going to bash us?
Meanwhile, Muslims are welcomed with open arms by liberals and none of them care that they still deny women's rights and the majority want to impose strict sharia law on the entire world. Wow, such modern thinking, huh? Forcing women, under threat, to cover their shameful bodies from head to toe is just the kind of progressive thinking that the left can get behind. You must be so proud to pick on Republicans and support the barbarians who declare that women are property.
So, you're defending the radicals coming in with refugees? You, like other libs, refuse to say anything about the slaughter of Christians in Syria and other countries, the practice of sharia law that often means death or cutting off hands for stealing and you must be defending the treatment of many Muslim women who are treated like property. You liberals ignore what so many Muslim women have stated after they escaped a life of hell. I know you guys don't listen to them or take them seriously, something they are used to in Muslim countries.
Why shouldn't we insist on a vetting process that weeds out these radicals and assholes that think they can mistreat women and children?
"The Right wants to keep this country the way it is"
Disagree.
In fact, conservatives hate the country the way it is today; they want to return America to an idealized past that never actually existed to begin with – an America that was far from ‘ideal,’ particularly for African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, gay Americans, and women.
Nothing more has to be said about your intelligence other than you support Trump. Love it, Trump is a Bigot and the old white man party is bigoted and you think they would do anything other then put more of them in jail, your a walking talking joke.The biggest thing I have noticed this scandal-plagued election year for Democrats is they have been overwhelmingly accusing Republicans of doing things....that THEY are doing, to distract people from the FACT they are doing it.
This OP is another fine example:
'The GOP wants to keep things the same."
- Yeah, that's why Trump is out there telling blacks he wants to help them, is offering them help, and declaring, "You KNOW what you're going to get with Hillary - NOTHING NEW....so why not take a chance for better?!'
The fact is the DNC, just exposed by their own words in their own emails as a bunch of racists, have not done anything for blacks since LBJ convinced blacks to trade their votes for free stuff. One Civil Rights passed, thanks to the GOP, the power they had just acquired, the progress they were making, the momentum they had...all just STOPPED!
Blacks have not made true progress in 50+ years since putting their trust in Democrats! 5-+ YEARS! Oh, they've been given more FOOD STAMPS, more WELFARE, more FREE STUFF ('OBAMA-PHONES'), but they haven't been given opportunities, given help to become more independent, opportunities to progress and improve and prosper.
Black unemployment is twice that of whites, the 1st Black President abandoned his people by not offering 1 SINGLE program to improve the plight / status of blacks, and he has focused more and put more effort into bringing illegals and 'refugees' into the country, getting THEM hooked up with free housing, getting THEM hooked up with jobs, getting THEM...hooked up. The blacks are not the DNC's favorite minorities anymore...
The fact is the Liberals already know that they HAVE the black vote so they don't have to do hardly anything else to keep it. They can throw them a few scraps (while laughing at them and mocking them in their private emails), keep them divided, and focus on bringing in millions more poor immigrants to get addicted to govt handouts in exchange for their new, fresh votes.
AND YOU THINK THE DNC WANTS THINGS TO CHANGE? They haven't changed for blacks in 50+ years...but they keep holding on, believing, because their 'massahs' keep promising and keep handing out food and 'shiny-shinies'. Now they are being betrayed - the 'massah' has a NEW 'favorite slave' now - illegals from Mexico, from Samalia, Syria.... Blacks are being asked once again to sit in th4 back of the DNC bus to make room for the illegals and the 'refugees' up front.
Don't blame the GOP! It's not the GOP who is doing it to you.
Conservatives want the Gilded Age back...
laissez faire capitalism, almost no environmental laws, or labor laws, or food/product safety laws, little or no workplace safety regulation, legal discrimination in hiring, no minimum wage, little or power for unions.
That's for starters.
" First Immigrants now are more educated then they were 50 years ago and your welfare comment shows again what a fucking liar regressives are , Immigrant when they come into this country are on probation for 5 years, No snap no welfare. Exception are disabled ,people getting away from persecution, asylum immigrants and children. Haters use one study on Immigration(CIS Citizens for immigration studies) which has proven to be just like all regressive bullshit, not true. You want to see how the hate party operates , just look at the level of lies from the right , you will find out that it is in direct proportion to the level that the hate party hates a specific ethnic group. For instance Regressive sights say that Muslim are 97.5 % on welfare. Because they top the hate party's hate list at this time.You regresives are all the same, what the fuck does your comment have to do with his comment of "To say immigrants today are not on the level with immigrants of the past is incorrect.In the early days, we didn't have statistics regarding the economic situation of all immigrants. The fact is, many families took a few generations to blend into the social and economic norm in this country. Those are the fact. You need to study your history more carefullly.What a joke. What you have described is EXACTLY how this country was founded and has grown and developed over the centuries. The poor coming to this country to achieve the American dream. That's what this country is all about: multiculturalism, diversity, immigrants achieving 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.' My God, you people are just the limit. LMAOImporting the world's poor and expanding poverty is not doing this country any good. It's destructive.
The immigrants of old may have been poor upon arrival but they were productive and hard-working. Can the same be said of the many newer immigrants?
"High welfare use by immigrant-headed households with children is partly explained by the low education level of many immigrants. Of households headed by an immigrant who has not graduated high school, 80 percent access the welfare system, compared to 25 percent for those headed by an immigrant who has at least a bachelor’s degree. "
Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children
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You are so very ignorant. The height of immigration to the US ran from the late 1800s to the early 1900s. From the Library of Congress:
"..Most of the immigrants chose to settle in American cities, where jobs were located. As a result, the cities became ever more crowded. In addition, city services often failed to keep up with the flow of newcomers. Most of the immigrants did find jobs, although they often worked in jobs that most native-born Americans would not take. Over time, however, the immigrants succeeded in bettering their condition."
Immigrants in the Progressive Era - American Memory Timeline- Classroom Presentation | Teacher Resources - Library of Congress
During this period immigrants took industrial and manufacturing jobs that were often difficult and where conditions were hard and required long hours.
"Immigration was crucial to the development of the U.S. economy and the workplace in the 20th century. In 1900, 448,572 individuals passed through immigration control, and for the decade as a whole (1900-9) there were 8.2 million. Those of work age had come to find employment and a stake in a better job."
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/cwc/american-labor-in-the-20th-century.pdf
Too many immigrants coming to the US today are on welfare - sad but true.
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" First Immigrants now are more educated then they were 50 years ago and your welfare comment shows again what a fucking liar regressives are , Immigrant when they come into this country are on probation for 5 years, No snap no welfare. Exception are disabled ,people getting away from persecution, asylum immigrants and children. Haters use one study on Immigration(CIS Citizens for immigration studies) which has proven to be just like all regressive bullshit, not true. You want to see how the hate party operates , just look at the level of lies from the right , you will find out that it is in direct proportion to the level that the hate party hates a specific ethnic group. For instance Regressive sights say that Muslim are 97.5 % on welfare. Because they top the hate party's hate list at this time.You regresives are all the same, what the fuck does your comment have to do with his comment of "To say immigrants today are not on the level with immigrants of the past is incorrect.In the early days, we didn't have statistics regarding the economic situation of all immigrants. The fact is, many families took a few generations to blend into the social and economic norm in this country. Those are the fact. You need to study your history more carefullly.What a joke. What you have described is EXACTLY how this country was founded and has grown and developed over the centuries. The poor coming to this country to achieve the American dream. That's what this country is all about: multiculturalism, diversity, immigrants achieving 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.' My God, you people are just the limit. LMAOImporting the world's poor and expanding poverty is not doing this country any good. It's destructive.
The immigrants of old may have been poor upon arrival but they were productive and hard-working. Can the same be said of the many newer immigrants?
"High welfare use by immigrant-headed households with children is partly explained by the low education level of many immigrants. Of households headed by an immigrant who has not graduated high school, 80 percent access the welfare system, compared to 25 percent for those headed by an immigrant who has at least a bachelor’s degree. "
Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children
.
You are so very ignorant. The height of immigration to the US ran from the late 1800s to the early 1900s. From the Library of Congress:
"..Most of the immigrants chose to settle in American cities, where jobs were located. As a result, the cities became ever more crowded. In addition, city services often failed to keep up with the flow of newcomers. Most of the immigrants did find jobs, although they often worked in jobs that most native-born Americans would not take. Over time, however, the immigrants succeeded in bettering their condition."
Immigrants in the Progressive Era - American Memory Timeline- Classroom Presentation | Teacher Resources - Library of Congress
During this period immigrants took industrial and manufacturing jobs that were often difficult and where conditions were hard and required long hours.
"Immigration was crucial to the development of the U.S. economy and the workplace in the 20th century. In 1900, 448,572 individuals passed through immigration control, and for the decade as a whole (1900-9) there were 8.2 million. Those of work age had come to find employment and a stake in a better job."
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/cwc/american-labor-in-the-20th-century.pdf
Too many immigrants coming to the US today are on welfare - sad but true.
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You have no Idea what a communist is , you have no clue what a Marxist is and you have no clue what a socialist is. You got nothing but bullshit. You brought this us so fess up that you don't have a clue ----------------------Ok goody, right now I'm going to show you people how stupid you are, This clown has no clue what a communist, socialist or Marxist is. Ok Einstein Go to google ,google a trusted encyclopedia get the main tenets of Communism bring that back and tell us all why by those tenets how I'm a communist or my party or the president is a communist.By the way bring the sight address with you You people have nothing but bullshit and this will prove it.Why do they want to keep it this way, simple this is how the perceive this country, Right now the controllers of the regressive party are more then happy, they have achieved what they wanted. All the new wealth of this country in the last 30+ years has gone to the top top tier, while at the same time putting the middle class and poor deeper and deeper in dept to guess who. It's to a point now that people are feeding their families with credit card debt.
I'll remind you people that capitalism can't exist without the promise of advancement, the ability to get ahead. That is the promise of this country. Without it we will implode from the inside.
How is this done, tax policy. What did they expect would happen when The worst president in our History Reagan, gave us the trickle down lie. How about changing the upper tier tax level from 72 to 28% what did they think was going to happen. This , what is happening now, is what they thought was going to happen ,a trickle up economy that moves every increased wealth of this country to the top. Thats what Reagan wanted and he has achieved that.
Dude, you're not supposed to swallow the whole Communist Manifesto in one bite. If you don't choke, you'll get indigestion. Slow down and chew your propaganda
Tell me what plank in the Communist manifesto you oppose. Every one of you whiners ... waah, you called me a Communist ... fails to be able to answer that question. Most of you just run away at the question. What about you?
I looked at thie garbage wanted to know where you found this crap , Now I know every right wing hack place in the country, most being hate sights and like the examiner blind regressive sights" First Immigrants now are more educated then they were 50 years ago and your welfare comment shows again what a fucking liar regressives are , Immigrant when they come into this country are on probation for 5 years, No snap no welfare. Exception are disabled ,people getting away from persecution, asylum immigrants and children. Haters use one study on Immigration(CIS Citizens for immigration studies) which has proven to be just like all regressive bullshit, not true. You want to see how the hate party operates , just look at the level of lies from the right , you will find out that it is in direct proportion to the level that the hate party hates a specific ethnic group. For instance Regressive sights say that Muslim are 97.5 % on welfare. Because they top the hate party's hate list at this time.You regresives are all the same, what the fuck does your comment have to do with his comment of "To say immigrants today are not on the level with immigrants of the past is incorrect.In the early days, we didn't have statistics regarding the economic situation of all immigrants. The fact is, many families took a few generations to blend into the social and economic norm in this country. Those are the fact. You need to study your history more carefullly.What a joke. What you have described is EXACTLY how this country was founded and has grown and developed over the centuries. The poor coming to this country to achieve the American dream. That's what this country is all about: multiculturalism, diversity, immigrants achieving 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.' My God, you people are just the limit. LMAO
The immigrants of old may have been poor upon arrival but they were productive and hard-working. Can the same be said of the many newer immigrants?
"High welfare use by immigrant-headed households with children is partly explained by the low education level of many immigrants. Of households headed by an immigrant who has not graduated high school, 80 percent access the welfare system, compared to 25 percent for those headed by an immigrant who has at least a bachelor’s degree. "
Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children
.
You are so very ignorant. The height of immigration to the US ran from the late 1800s to the early 1900s. From the Library of Congress:
"..Most of the immigrants chose to settle in American cities, where jobs were located. As a result, the cities became ever more crowded. In addition, city services often failed to keep up with the flow of newcomers. Most of the immigrants did find jobs, although they often worked in jobs that most native-born Americans would not take. Over time, however, the immigrants succeeded in bettering their condition."
Immigrants in the Progressive Era - American Memory Timeline- Classroom Presentation | Teacher Resources - Library of Congress
During this period immigrants took industrial and manufacturing jobs that were often difficult and where conditions were hard and required long hours.
"Immigration was crucial to the development of the U.S. economy and the workplace in the 20th century. In 1900, 448,572 individuals passed through immigration control, and for the decade as a whole (1900-9) there were 8.2 million. Those of work age had come to find employment and a stake in a better job."
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/cwc/american-labor-in-the-20th-century.pdf
Too many immigrants coming to the US today are on welfare - sad but true.
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Illegal aliens still get Medicare benefits, but feds vow crackdown, $70M savings
Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children
Immigrant Families Benefit Significantly from Obamacare
Report: 42 percent of new Medicaid signups are immigrants, their children
State Gives Illegal Aliens $35 Mil in Healthcare, Meds, Physical Therapy - Judicial Watch
AH yes a voice from the hate partyFunny and you don't either, because other then a few snap garbage comments about it, telling you haters what you want to hear, he has said nothing.Why do they want to keep it this way, simple this is how the perceive this country, Right now the controllers of the regressive party are more then happy, they have achieved what they wanted. All the new wealth of this country in the last 30+ years has gone to the top top tier, while at the same time putting the middle class and poor deeper and deeper in dept to guess who. It's to a point now that people are feeding their families with credit card debt.
I'll remind you people that capitalism can't exist without the promise of advancement, the ability to get ahead. That is the promise of this country. Without it we will implode from the inside.
How is this done, tax policy. What did they expect would happen when The worst president in our History Reagan, gave us the trickle down lie. How about changing the upper tier tax level from 72 to 28% what did they think was going to happen. This , what is happening now, is what they thought was going to happen ,a trickle up economy that moves every increased wealth of this country to the top. Thats what Reagan wanted and he has achieved that.
Trump is an outsider who's Trade Policy is a complete reversal of the last 40 years of GOP trade policy.
If you were unhappy with Reagan's economic performance you should welcome this change.
Instead you seem to unaware of the massive change in policy that Trump represents.
Being afraid of change is normal.
Denial is often the first stage. But hopefully in time you will be able to adjust your world view to deal with the new reality.
Take you "hater" slur and shove it up your ass.