The Stone Cold Truth

[Correll]

One of the greatest acts of domestic terror in American history happened to blacks at the hands of whites. But blacks are the violent ones.

Tulsa Race Massacre

During the Tulsa Race Massacre (also known as the Tulsa Race Riot), which occurred over 18 hours on May 31-June 1, 1921, ....

99 fucking years ago. Jesus Christ, get over it.

 

[sparky]

racism is not the penchant of any exclusive race

Okay, well, in that case it should be very easy for you to validate your stance. By showing how Whites have had to deal with the same level of racial discrimination as Blacks. True?

Our nation has two (2) colossal laws created solely to get our country to stop being racist toward its Negro citizenry; Emancipation Proclamation, Civil Rights Act of 1964.

And I am sure you'll have no problem showing us the equal, similar legislation our nation passed, in order to get our country to stop being so racist to us Caucasians. So I'll be waiting for you to show us those laws pal.

as you wish Ethos

but you may not 'can the Q' to any country or race....

Universal Declaration of Human Rights | 1948

~S~

 

[sparky]

This is too good not to share......

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[22lcidw]

Let us continue with the years after slavery and what it meant for blacks.

Thus far we see that whites went on a killing spree that can only be described as attempted ethnic cleansing. After that, the supreme court pretty much killed the 13th,14th, and 15th amendments by saying that issues of racial discrimination was not a federal concern. So let us move forward with more of the stone cold truth.

The Colfax Massacre (1873)

The Colfax Massacre occurred on April 13, 1873. The battle-turned-massacre took place in the small town of Colfax, Louisiana as a clash between blacks and whites. Three whites and an estimated 150 blacks died in the conflict.

The massacre took place against the backdrop of racial tensions following the hotly contested Louisiana governor’s race of 1872. While the Republicans narrowly won the contest and retained control of the state, white Democrats, angry over the defeat, vowed revenge. In Colfax Parish (county) as in other areas of the state, they organized a white militia to directly challenge the mostly black state militia under the control of the governor.

One incident however, touched off the Colfax massacre. On March 28, local white Democratic leaders called for armed supporters to help them take the Colfax Parish Courthouse from the black and white GOP officeholders on April 1. The Republicans responded by urging their mostly black supporters to defend them. Although nothing happened on April 1, the next day fighting erupted between the two groups.

On April 13, Easter Sunday, more than 300 armed white men, including members of white supremacist organizations such as the Knights of White Camellia and the Ku Klux Klan, attacked the Courthouse building. When the militia maneuvered a cannon to fire on the Courthouse, some of the sixty black defenders fled while others surrendered. When the leader of the attackers, James Hadnot, was accidentally shot by one of his own men, the white militia responded by shooting the black prisoners. Those who were wounded in the earlier battle, particularly black militia members, were singled out for execution The indiscriminate killing spread to African Americans who had not been at the courthouse and continued into the night.

All told, approximately 150 African Americans were killed, including 48 who were murdered after the battle. Only three whites were killed, and few were injured in the largely one-sided battle of Colfax.

The Colfax Massacre (1873) •

So what did the US government do to provide equal protection to newly freed blacks?



U.S. v. Cruikshank

March 27, 1876
The Cruikshank case arose from the 1873 Colfax Massacre, in which a group of armed whites killed more than a hundred African American men as a result of a political dispute. Three men convicted of violating the 1870 Enforcement Act – a law aimed primarily at curbing Ku Klux Klan violence that forbade conspiracies to deny the constitutional rights of any citizen – appealed on the grounds that their indictments were insufficient. When the case reached the Supreme Court, the Court sided with the defendants, holding that the rights they were alleged to have violated were not enforceable in this case. The First and Second Amendment rights to assembly and the bearing of arms were, according to the Court’s ruling, intended only to restrict the actions of the federal government and did not apply to the states or private citizens, and the Fourteenth Amendment rights to due process and equal protection applied only to state action and again, not to the actions of individuals.

https://www.fjc.gov/history/timeline/us-v-cruikshank

Once again Chief Justice Waite, a REPUBLICAN:

Chief Justice Morrison Waite overturned the convictions of the defendants, holding that the plaintiffs had to rely on state courts for protection. Waite ruled that neither the First Amendment nor the Second Amendment applied to the actions of state governments or to individuals. He further ruled that the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment applied to the actions of state governments, but not to individuals. The decision left African Americans in the South at the mercy of increasingly hostile state governments dominated by white Democratic legislatures, and allowed groups such as the Ku Klux Klan to continue to use paramilitary force to suppress black voting.

United States v. Cruikshank - Wikipedia

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You made a mistake....this says 1876.

I suspect you are not still butthurt over something that happened 150 years ago.

Are you ?

No there is no mistake. You still celebrate something that happened in 1776, hold men and their ideas as sacred who have been dead 200 years. So this review of how blacks have been treated from the end of slavery until this moment is going to be done.

You would think people would want to celebrate good things, like freedom from British rule. Your comparison to the negative post you repeat is not even close to the same thing.

Identity politics.

It's what he does.

Whites invented identity politics on July 4th, 1776.

And Molly, blacks were not freed in 1776.

This thread is called the Stone Cold Truth and that's what you are going to get. If you can't take it, find another thread.

You can manuver your enemy to show their soft underbelly. To choose to gut it like a suey porker is the move to make or not make. Use their vain human traits against themselves.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

1876 ?

What a joke.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Universal Declaration of Human Rights | 1948

~S~

Nope.

Your link does not focus on America, exclusively, so please let me know when you post something relative to the topic; Americans!

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

...
Intersectionality Score Calculator

No sir, this calculator does absolutely nothing, whatsoever, to calculate which Race absorbs the most racism in the USA.

 

[MizMolly]

Let us continue with the years after slavery and what it meant for blacks.

Thus far we see that whites went on a killing spree that can only be described as attempted ethnic cleansing. After that, the supreme court pretty much killed the 13th,14th, and 15th amendments by saying that issues of racial discrimination was not a federal concern. So let us move forward with more of the stone cold truth.

The Colfax Massacre (1873)

The Colfax Massacre occurred on April 13, 1873. The battle-turned-massacre took place in the small town of Colfax, Louisiana as a clash between blacks and whites. Three whites and an estimated 150 blacks died in the conflict.

The massacre took place against the backdrop of racial tensions following the hotly contested Louisiana governor’s race of 1872. While the Republicans narrowly won the contest and retained control of the state, white Democrats, angry over the defeat, vowed revenge. In Colfax Parish (county) as in other areas of the state, they organized a white militia to directly challenge the mostly black state militia under the control of the governor.

One incident however, touched off the Colfax massacre. On March 28, local white Democratic leaders called for armed supporters to help them take the Colfax Parish Courthouse from the black and white GOP officeholders on April 1. The Republicans responded by urging their mostly black supporters to defend them. Although nothing happened on April 1, the next day fighting erupted between the two groups.

On April 13, Easter Sunday, more than 300 armed white men, including members of white supremacist organizations such as the Knights of White Camellia and the Ku Klux Klan, attacked the Courthouse building. When the militia maneuvered a cannon to fire on the Courthouse, some of the sixty black defenders fled while others surrendered. When the leader of the attackers, James Hadnot, was accidentally shot by one of his own men, the white militia responded by shooting the black prisoners. Those who were wounded in the earlier battle, particularly black militia members, were singled out for execution The indiscriminate killing spread to African Americans who had not been at the courthouse and continued into the night.

All told, approximately 150 African Americans were killed, including 48 who were murdered after the battle. Only three whites were killed, and few were injured in the largely one-sided battle of Colfax.

The Colfax Massacre (1873) •

So what did the US government do to provide equal protection to newly freed blacks?



U.S. v. Cruikshank

March 27, 1876
The Cruikshank case arose from the 1873 Colfax Massacre, in which a group of armed whites killed more than a hundred African American men as a result of a political dispute. Three men convicted of violating the 1870 Enforcement Act – a law aimed primarily at curbing Ku Klux Klan violence that forbade conspiracies to deny the constitutional rights of any citizen – appealed on the grounds that their indictments were insufficient. When the case reached the Supreme Court, the Court sided with the defendants, holding that the rights they were alleged to have violated were not enforceable in this case. The First and Second Amendment rights to assembly and the bearing of arms were, according to the Court’s ruling, intended only to restrict the actions of the federal government and did not apply to the states or private citizens, and the Fourteenth Amendment rights to due process and equal protection applied only to state action and again, not to the actions of individuals.

https://www.fjc.gov/history/timeline/us-v-cruikshank

Once again Chief Justice Waite, a REPUBLICAN:

Chief Justice Morrison Waite overturned the convictions of the defendants, holding that the plaintiffs had to rely on state courts for protection. Waite ruled that neither the First Amendment nor the Second Amendment applied to the actions of state governments or to individuals. He further ruled that the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment applied to the actions of state governments, but not to individuals. The decision left African Americans in the South at the mercy of increasingly hostile state governments dominated by white Democratic legislatures, and allowed groups such as the Ku Klux Klan to continue to use paramilitary force to suppress black voting.

United States v. Cruikshank - Wikipedia

View attachment 302565​

You made a mistake....this says 1876.

I suspect you are not still butthurt over something that happened 150 years ago.

Are you ?

No there is no mistake. You still celebrate something that happened in 1776, hold men and their ideas as sacred who have been dead 200 years. So this review of how blacks have been treated from the end of slavery until this moment is going to be done.

You would think people would want to celebrate good things, like freedom from British rule. Your comparison to the negative post you repeat is not even close to the same thing.

Identity politics.

It's what he does.

Whites invented identity politics on July 4th, 1776.

And Molly, blacks were not freed in 1776.

This thread is called the Stone Cold Truth and that's what you are going to get. If you can't take it, find another thread.

That was my point. Blacks still celebrate the 4th of July. Yet you made a statement about whites celebrating 1776.

 

[MizMolly]

One of the greatest acts of domestic terror in American history happened to blacks at the hands of whites. But blacks are the violent ones.

Tulsa Race Massacre

During the Tulsa Race Massacre (also known as the Tulsa Race Riot), which occurred over 18 hours on May 31-June 1, 1921, a white mob attacked residents, homes and businesses in the predominantly black Greenwood neighborhood of Tulsa, Oklahoma. The event remains one of the worst incidents of racial violence in U.S. history, and one of the least-known: News reports were largely squelched, despite the fact that hundreds of people were killed and thousands left homeless.

On May 30, 1921, a young black teenager named Dick Rowland entered an elevator at the Drexel Building, an office building on South Main Street. At some point after that, the young white elevator operator, Sarah Page, screamed; Rowland fled the scene. The police were called, and the next morning they arrested Rowland.

By that time, rumors of what supposedly happened on that elevator had circulated through the city’s white community. A front-page story in the Tulsa Tribune that afternoon reported that police had arrested Rowland for sexually assaulting Page.

As evening fell, an angry white mob was gathering outside the courthouse, demanding the sheriff hand over Rowland. Sheriff Willard McCullough refused, and his men barricaded the top floor to protect the black teenager.

Around 9 p.m., a group of about 25 armed black men—including many World War I veterans—went to the courthouse to offer help guarding Rowland. After the sheriff turned them away, some of the white mob tried unsuccessfully to break into the National Guard armory nearby.

With rumors still flying of a possible lynching, a group of around 75 armed blacks returned to the courthouse shortly after 10 pm, where they were met by som,500 whites, some of whom also carried weapons.

Red Cross estimate, some 1,256 houses were burned; 215 others were looted but not torched. Two newspapers, a school, a library, a hospital, churches, hotels, stores and many other black-owned businesses were among the buildings destroyed or damaged by fire.

By the time the National Guard arrived and declared martial law shortly before noon, the riot had effectively ended. Though guardsmen helped put out fires, they also imprisoned many black Tulsans, and by June 2 some 6,000 people were under armed guard at the local fairgrounds.

For decades, there were no public ceremonies, memorials for the dead or any efforts to commemorate the events of May 31-June 1, 1921. Instead, there was a deliberate effort to cover them up.

The Tulsa Tribune removed the front-page story of May 31 that sparked the chaos from its bound volumes, and scholars later discovered that police and state militia archives about the riot were missing as well. As a result, until recently the Tulsa Race Massacre was rarely mentioned in history books, taught in schools or even talked about.

https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/tulsa-race-massacre

You are talking about history. Most of the violent crimes TODAY are not committed by whites.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

One of the greatest acts of domestic terror in American history happened to blacks at the hands of whites. But blacks are the violent ones.

Tulsa Race Massacre

During the Tulsa Race Massacre (also known as the Tulsa Race Riot), which occurred over 18 hours on May 31-June 1, 1921, a white mob attacked residents, homes and businesses in the predominantly black Greenwood neighborhood of Tulsa, Oklahoma. The event remains one of the worst incidents of racial violence in U.S. history, and one of the least-known: News reports were largely squelched, despite the fact that hundreds of people were killed and thousands left homeless.

On May 30, 1921, a young black teenager named Dick Rowland entered an elevator at the Drexel Building, an office building on South Main Street. At some point after that, the young white elevator operator, Sarah Page, screamed; Rowland fled the scene. The police were called, and the next morning they arrested Rowland.

By that time, rumors of what supposedly happened on that elevator had circulated through the city’s white community. A front-page story in the Tulsa Tribune that afternoon reported that police had arrested Rowland for sexually assaulting Page.

As evening fell, an angry white mob was gathering outside the courthouse, demanding the sheriff hand over Rowland. Sheriff Willard McCullough refused, and his men barricaded the top floor to protect the black teenager.

Around 9 p.m., a group of about 25 armed black men—including many World War I veterans—went to the courthouse to offer help guarding Rowland. After the sheriff turned them away, some of the white mob tried unsuccessfully to break into the National Guard armory nearby.

With rumors still flying of a possible lynching, a group of around 75 armed blacks returned to the courthouse shortly after 10 pm, where they were met by som,500 whites, some of whom also carried weapons.

Red Cross estimate, some 1,256 houses were burned; 215 others were looted but not torched. Two newspapers, a school, a library, a hospital, churches, hotels, stores and many other black-owned businesses were among the buildings destroyed or damaged by fire.

By the time the National Guard arrived and declared martial law shortly before noon, the riot had effectively ended. Though guardsmen helped put out fires, they also imprisoned many black Tulsans, and by June 2 some 6,000 people were under armed guard at the local fairgrounds.

For decades, there were no public ceremonies, memorials for the dead or any efforts to commemorate the events of May 31-June 1, 1921. Instead, there was a deliberate effort to cover them up.

The Tulsa Tribune removed the front-page story of May 31 that sparked the chaos from its bound volumes, and scholars later discovered that police and state militia archives about the riot were missing as well. As a result, until recently the Tulsa Race Massacre was rarely mentioned in history books, taught in schools or even talked about.

https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/tulsa-race-massacre

You are talking about history. Most of the violent crimes TODAY are not committed by whites.

Actually, today they are mostly committed by Whites. Go check the usdoj stats.

Here's just two recent examples from two different years: Table 43 Table 43

 

[IM2]

One of the greatest acts of domestic terror in American history happened to blacks at the hands of whites. But blacks are the violent ones.

Tulsa Race Massacre

During the Tulsa Race Massacre (also known as the Tulsa Race Riot), which occurred over 18 hours on May 31-June 1, 1921, a white mob attacked residents, homes and businesses in the predominantly black Greenwood neighborhood of Tulsa, Oklahoma. The event remains one of the worst incidents of racial violence in U.S. history, and one of the least-known: News reports were largely squelched, despite the fact that hundreds of people were killed and thousands left homeless.

On May 30, 1921, a young black teenager named Dick Rowland entered an elevator at the Drexel Building, an office building on South Main Street. At some point after that, the young white elevator operator, Sarah Page, screamed; Rowland fled the scene. The police were called, and the next morning they arrested Rowland.

By that time, rumors of what supposedly happened on that elevator had circulated through the city’s white community. A front-page story in the Tulsa Tribune that afternoon reported that police had arrested Rowland for sexually assaulting Page.

As evening fell, an angry white mob was gathering outside the courthouse, demanding the sheriff hand over Rowland. Sheriff Willard McCullough refused, and his men barricaded the top floor to protect the black teenager.

Around 9 p.m., a group of about 25 armed black men—including many World War I veterans—went to the courthouse to offer help guarding Rowland. After the sheriff turned them away, some of the white mob tried unsuccessfully to break into the National Guard armory nearby.

With rumors still flying of a possible lynching, a group of around 75 armed blacks returned to the courthouse shortly after 10 pm, where they were met by som,500 whites, some of whom also carried weapons.

Red Cross estimate, some 1,256 houses were burned; 215 others were looted but not torched. Two newspapers, a school, a library, a hospital, churches, hotels, stores and many other black-owned businesses were among the buildings destroyed or damaged by fire.

By the time the National Guard arrived and declared martial law shortly before noon, the riot had effectively ended. Though guardsmen helped put out fires, they also imprisoned many black Tulsans, and by June 2 some 6,000 people were under armed guard at the local fairgrounds.

For decades, there were no public ceremonies, memorials for the dead or any efforts to commemorate the events of May 31-June 1, 1921. Instead, there was a deliberate effort to cover them up.

The Tulsa Tribune removed the front-page story of May 31 that sparked the chaos from its bound volumes, and scholars later discovered that police and state militia archives about the riot were missing as well. As a result, until recently the Tulsa Race Massacre was rarely mentioned in history books, taught in schools or even talked about.

https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/tulsa-race-massacre

You are talking about history. Most of the violent crimes TODAY are not committed by whites.

Actually, today they are mostly committed by Whites. Go check the usdoj stats.

Here's just one recent example: Table 43

Thank you.

 

[IM2]

Yes Molly I am talking about history, and history never ends until the end of time. That is the purpose of this thread. Showing those like you what whites have done since slavery to slow down, inhibit, stall, or stop black progress. Now is the time to shut up the argument those like you have made about how blacks are blaming whites for self inflicted wounds. That did not happen and you will be shown that did not happen, as well as you will be shown how whites continues stopping black progress. So you can drop the lie about how most crimes aren't committed by whites, because they are. And you will be made to face the fact that the root cause of the problems blacks face stem from white racism. Unless you choose to not enter this thread.

 

[IM2]

1876 ?

What a joke.

Don't worry racist, we will get to 2020 in due time. This is to show you what whites have done since slavery because punk bitches like you want to run off at the mouth about what you didn't own. So if you can't take the heat, don't enter the sauna.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Just now, I reflected on how since Robert Jensen & Louis CK are undefeated here vs Godboy and Correll ...then why not make it 3-0 here, eh?

So, enjoy more evidence of our White Privilege which does slow down, inhibit, stall, or stop Black progress ---and especially Black males' progress:

FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed?

 

[Correll]

Just now, I reflected on how since Robert Jensen & Louis CK are undefeated here vs Godboy and Correll ...then why not make it 3-0 here, eh?

So, enjoy more evidence of our White Privilege which does slow down, inhibit, stall, or stop Black progress ---and especially Black males' progress:

FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed?

Jensen's own actions of NOT giving the white boy, any special consideration based on his white skin, ALONE, refuted his premise of Whit Privilege.


What is actually going on in this society is that we are discriminating AGAINST whites, especially white males, IN FAVOR of blacks, to make up for past shit.


That discrimination is widespread, legal, and even often required by law.


We both know that Jensen and University officials like him, massive discriminate against white boys like the unnamed white student, in favor of black students in admissions, FOR ONE LIMITED EXAMPLE.


You support this, because you are an anti-white racist, and your lies and stonewalling about "white privilege" is just your rationalizations for your bigotry and racism.


That you claim to think you have won this debate here, with your delusional stonewalling, is you being either a complete liar, or completely delusional.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

What is actually going on in this society is that we are discriminating AGAINST whites, especially white males, IN FAVOR of blacks, to make up for past shit...

FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed?

 

[Correll]

What is actually going on in this society is that we are discriminating AGAINST whites, especially white males, IN FAVOR of blacks, to make up for past shit...

FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed?

From your link.


"FBI director James Comey told police officers at a national conference last Sunday that because of insufficient data on use of force, “Americans actually have no idea” whether racial bias in policing is really an epidemic."



"But even if there aren’t hard statistics,"


"It marked the second time within five years that the agency uncovered an officer’s membership in the KKK"


Wowl Two in five years. Massive. LOL!!!



I stopped reading when your article started talking of slavery. I understand that that is liberal code for, "we are all out of shit now".



So, wow. YOUR link admits a lack of any hard data to support it's panic mongering, and cites, as it's best "evidence" of a problem TWO, count them TWO, cops that were members of the KKK, after 5 YEARS of looking into the problem.




My point stands.




What is actually going on in this society is that we are discriminating AGAINST whites, especially white males, IN FAVOR of blacks, to make up for past shit...

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

From your link...

Yep. Just like the 4-5 other hyperlinks there in the article ---that you disregarded (just like you disregarded Jensen & Louis CK facts) because they proved that you are deceitful and dishonest about this/yet another element of proof of our White Privilege.

 

[Correll]

From your link...

Yep. Just like the 4-5 other hyperlinks there in the article ---that you disregarded (just like you disregarded Jensen & Louis CK facts) because they proved that you are deceitful and dishonest about this/yet another element of proof of our White Privilege.

The more you post, the more you are showing that you are not interesting in seriously or honestly discussing the issue.


I looked at one of your links. It OPENS with admitting that there was no hard data to back up it's conclusion.


The little bits and pieces it had, of actual information, was so minor and limited, that any reasonable person would have to realize that white supremacy is a politically and culturally insignificant fringe movement.


What has real power, is the racism you and Jensen are practicing. Your anti-white racism, legal, socially accepted and often required by law.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

The more you post, the more you are showing that you are not interesting in seriously or honestly discussing the issue.

The more you post, the more you show that you are a hardcore White racist who refuses to relinquish White Privilege ---therefore you will tell any lie/any falsehood which preserves that White Privilege.

You lied on Jensen's scholarship then you lied on Louis CK ---now you have lied on the FBI!