The Trouble With The Two State Solution

[Billo_Really]

First, I suspect that your list is pre-2010 and not current. 2nd, some of those items could be used for military purposes, like chemical warfare. 3rd,

Israel says that the importation curbs are in place to pressure Hamas.

An Israeli government document obtained in response to the lawsuit describes Israel's blockade as "economic warfare": "A country has the right to decide that it chooses not to engage in economic relations or to give economic assistance to the other party to the conflict, or that it wishes to operate using 'economic warfare'. "An Israeli government spokesman in June 2010 added that the blockade is intended to bring about a political goal and that Israel "could not lift the embargo altogether as long as Hamas remains in control" of Gaza.

In the past Israel expressed concerns about Hamas using building materials for military means.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/06/09/95621/israeli-document-gaza-blockade.html

Gaza imports - Wikipedia

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4th, no country should be expected to exist with a bordering neighbor that will use any and all weapons or other means of destruction to murder it's citizens and destroy their country. If the palestinians want to live peaceably then the Israelis will oblige, but you can't co-exist with people who are firing rockets across the border into civilian areas or sending in terrorist murderers to kill as many Israelis as possible. Quite frankly, I think Gaza is a failed political exercise and should be reduced to ruble.

It's called "collective punishment". And that is a war crime.

So you don't believe Palestinians have a right to exist?

 

[elektra]

Spices! They restricted spices? They restricted donkey's? That has nothing to do with Israeli national security. As long as Israel maintains an illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza, they are going to get rockets. End the occupation and no more rocket fire.

There is no occupation, it is the Jews land

 

[Billo_Really]

There is no occupation, it is the Jews land

Not according to every country on the planet and over 100 UN resolutions, one of them being 242, which tells Israel to get the fuck off Palestinian land!

 

[LeroyDumonde]

More than 25% of Israel's citizens are non Jews, including members of their Parliament.

How does that equate to an ethnostate?

Try to immigrate there as a non-Jew.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Funny. Israel is diverse. The Palestinians keep referring to a Palestinian state that will be free of Jews.

And prior to the creation of the state of Israel it was almost entirely inhabited by Palestinians. If the situation were reversed Jews would be calling it genocide.

 

[AMart]

Try to immigrate there as a non-Jew.

The Arabs, not living in the open air prisons, they inherited from the real estate they gained from Syria in that 67' war.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There are a few problems here...

Gazza is a glorified prison which can't exist under Isreali restrictions.. There are two million people there with no place to go...
Hamas is popular because pacifists don't win when you are daily unconstant threat... There is a large group of Isreali Hardliners that don't believe they should exist either.

West Bank is run by Fatah and organisation which has attempted to engage in peaceful dialogue. The ilegal Settlers are a major problem as they are driving them off their land under the protection/backing of the IDF. This is just a slow invasion which any one can see in the timeline.
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This has nothing to do with defence... This is about an invasion.

Think of it logically, if a foriegn people came in to your neighbourhood and took land and the army moved you out so they can have a buffer zome. Then more move into the buffer zone and then you are moved again... How would you feel?

The Democrats' Demographic Demolition Derby

Deport all the Paleonasties to New York City. As of now, the tall buildings in the Big Apple are blocking the view of anyone with binoculars who wants to ogle the big boobs of desperate housewives.

 

[fncceo]

Try to immigrate there as a non-Jew.

Try to emigrate to Japan as a non-japanese. Or China. Or any of the dozens of countries whose immigration laws as based on Jus Sanquinis principles.

But, I realize for you, it's only an issue when Jews do it.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Try to emigrate to Japan as a non-japanese. Or China. Or any of the dozens of countries whose immigration laws as based on Jus Sanquinis principles.

But, I realize for you, it's only an issue when Jews do it.

You don't need to be ethnically Japanese to become a citizen of Japan.

https://www.moj.go.jp/EN/MINJI/minji78.html#a09

 

[elektra]

Not according to every country on the planet and over 100 UN resolutions, one of them being 242, which tells Israel to get the fuck off Palestinian land!

The United Nations is a dysfunctional government that needs to be destroyed.

Arabs belong in Arabia, not Palestine.

 

[Billo_Really]

The United Nations is a dysfunctional government that needs to be destroyed.

Arabs belong in Arabia, not Palestine.

I'm sure Germany felt the same way?

 

[elektra]

I'm sure Germany felt the same way?

I am sure you don't know your ass from a hole in thee ground

 

[AZrailwhale]

Why do Jews have a right to an ethnostate, but no other ethnic group does?

Israel is NOT an ethnostate, it has Arab and Christian citizens, Arabs sit in the Knesset.

 

[surada]

Hamastan ( Gaza ) has shown that Land for peace and a Two or Three State Solution is not viable

Between 2012 and 2018, Netanyahu gave Qatar approval to transfer a cumulative sum of about a billion dollars to Gaza, at least half of which reached Hamas, including its military wing.

According to the Jerusalem Post, in a private meeting with members of his Likud party on March 11, 2019, Netanyahu explained the reckless step as follows: The money transfer is part of the strategy to divide the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.

Anyone who opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state needs to support the transfer of the money from Qatar to Hamas. In that way, we will foil the establishment of a Palestinian state (as reported in former cabinet member Haim Ramon’s Hebrew-language book “Neged Haruach”, p. 417).

 

[elektra]

Between 2012 and 2018, Netanyahu gave Qatar approval to transfer a cumulative sum of about a billion dollars to Gaza, at least half of which reached Hamas, including its military wing.

Qatar does not need nor acts on approval from Jews, not in any way possible. Anybody who knows a little bit about Arabs understands this.

 

[surada]

It is not the majority that are radical, quit stereotyping people.

The Jews have suffered so much. Although they did prosper in the Arab world until 1973.

 

[surada]

Qatar does not need nor acts on approval from Jews, not in any way possible. Anybody who knows a little bit about Arabs understands this.

You don't know anything about Qatar or the Gulf States.

 

[surada]

There is no occupation, it is the Jews land

So they say. Four Arab tribes settled in Samaria during the Babylonian exile.

 

[elektra]

So they say. Four Arab tribes settled in Samaria during the Babylonian exile.

Nice, the arabs are from Babylonia. The arabs never established a government in Palestine. Just squatters.

 

[elektra]

You don't know anything about Qatar or the Gulf States.

yet I know enough to state factually that you are wrong when you state Qatar acted because Jews gave them permission

you know nothing of Arabs