The War against Black People

[Correll]

Actually, the "war on drugs" is a war on civil liberties. Blacks get caught up more often than others because of their socioeconomic situation, but the whole war on drugs crap is merely a cause celebre to destroy the civil rights of US citizens and make money for the elite. The sooner we come to our collective senses and decriminalize ALL drugs, the better.

No, the "war on drugs" was a strategy spawned in the mind of Richard M. Nixon to disrupt the lives of those he perceived
as enemies. Namely, anti-Vietnam protestors and more specifically , Blacks.

From the horse's mouth>> John Erhlichman :

“You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect. “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

Nixon Aide Reportedly Admitted Drug War Was Meant To Target Black People

Actually the "horse's mouth" would have been a Nixon quote.

Nixon was the enemy of black people? That's a load of crap.

The GOP is responsible for the association of hippies with drugs? REally?

1. The "horse" in this case is the inner circle of the Nixon Administration. That is why I accurately stated that John Erhlichman's statement is a quote from the "horse's" mouth.

2. When a top Nixon aide comes out and confesses his political sins, who am I to dispute his veracity. I am merely the messenger...believe what you want but the known results of that "war on drugs" are consistent with what Erhlicman said.

3. Yes, I believe Erhlichman. He had no good reason to lie and he was right in the middle formulating that strategy. But now we know that the impetus of that plan struck Blacks the hardest since their neighborhoods and vehicles were targeted more...even though Whites and Blacks are still using drugs at the same rates.

One thing to consider here is the impact Asset Forfeiture laws had on the Black community. Blacks driving nice cars or living in nice homes became targets even though they had no ties to criminal activity. Corrupt cops could easily plant dope just to be able to confiscate a person's vehicle or house. And anyone caught carrying large amounts of cash could have it confiscated without any charges being filed...the cash being evidence that something illegal had taken place. This kind of wealth redistribution, from the Black community to law enforcement coffers, was in full force and is now being considered for expansion under federal law, making it a national mandate that can be used by any tier of government anywhere in the USA.

1. Nixon's policies and history on Civil Rights trumps what some aide claims.

2. When he is claiming that Nixon was behind getting people to associate hippy with grass? Yes.

3. Who said he didn't have a reason to lie?

1.Nixon's policy and history on civil rights was just as anemic as any other presidents with the exception of that old racist LBJ.

2. Well, I will take Erlichman's word over yours any day. He was right there talking face to face with Nixon...Where were YOU?

3. The evening news verifies what Erhlichman said nightly. Even you cannot deny that!

4. I noticed you ignored the asset Forfeiture narrative... that might have been wise...heh heh heh!

1. Tell the to the students and parents of segregated school in the South. Nixon landed on them like a ton of bricks.

2. Even when he is claiming that Nixon is responsible for the association of pot with hippies....I guess it helps that he is saying what you want to hear.

3. The nightly news verifies that the black community is all kind of fucked up. Not that the War of Drugs is a War against Black People. That is your confirmation bias speaking.

4. The real abuses of the forfeiture laws didn't really take off to long after Nixon. And you just assume that if it effects a black person that it was targeted at a black person.

 

[Correll]

In a world where drugs are decriminalized, the addict would be just another sick person in need of treatment for his dependency. He could seek get "seed" or "weed' stamp prescriptions from any competent medical authority and be admitted to rehabilitation without criminal charges being attached just as alcoholics do now!

You're leaving out the hard drug users who will rob and steal to get high and have no intention of quitting.

When the drug of choice is no longer profitable for drug dealers, the only recourse for them is to go to a legitimate venue where their addiction can then be assessed and dealt with responsibly.

So what profession do you think drug kingpins and the local dealers will take up when they can no longer make money selling drugs?

Whatever they want. Most of the Black drug dealers I know would make excellent business men due to their drive and ambition.

I had a black coke dealer buddy. He said he just could never work 9-5. Never. He had two kids and his dumb old lady put up with so much from him.

I used to say all bad people come from broken homes but he had two successful parents. They didn't grow up in the hood. They lived in the same sub as coach Chuck Daly. I honestly think this gangsta rap culture that turns a lot of whites into wiggers got him and his brother. His bro went to msu even but got addicted to drugs.

But I'll be honest I wasn't an angel.

Anyways, this buddy of mine tried robbing a bank. Got out in less than ten. I wonder if he's working a 9-5 yet?

The stats on broken homes and single moms only predict percentages. They never claim that ALL people from broken homes turn out bad or that ALL bad people were from broken homes.

 

[sealybobo]

You're leaving out the hard drug users who will rob and steal to get high and have no intention of quitting.

When the drug of choice is no longer profitable for drug dealers, the only recourse for them is to go to a legitimate venue where their addiction can then be assessed and dealt with responsibly.

So what profession do you think drug kingpins and the local dealers will take up when they can no longer make money selling drugs?

Whatever they want. Most of the Black drug dealers I know would make excellent business men due to their drive and ambition.

I had a black coke dealer buddy. He said he just could never work 9-5. Never. He had two kids and his dumb old lady put up with so much from him.

I used to say all bad people come from broken homes but he had two successful parents. They didn't grow up in the hood. They lived in the same sub as coach Chuck Daly. I honestly think this gangsta rap culture that turns a lot of whites into wiggers got him and his brother. His bro went to msu even but got addicted to drugs.

But I'll be honest I wasn't an angel.

Anyways, this buddy of mine tried robbing a bank. Got out in less than ten. I wonder if he's working a 9-5 yet?

The stats on broken homes and single moms only predict percentages. They never claim that ALL people from broken homes turn out bad or that ALL bad people were from broken homes.

True. And today I'm seeing white kids acting the same way. They don't take school seriously and they are lazy but want bling without working for it.

I guess there are bad parents too. And some kids turn bad even with two good parents true but statistically you know

 

[ClosedCaption]

We have problem areas in America and they're all black. Even poor white places don't have the same violent crime rates as these places.

You should be ashamed. Whites have had all the power in this nation and you're comparing the whites to blacks? "Hey whites are doing somewhat better than the people they legally oppressed for centuries so, thats something"

Congrats

Do you want the black community to improve? Then stop comparing them to our worst communities and suggest that there isn't anything they could be doing better.

Do you want white communities to improve? Then stop comparing them to the very people who've been oppressed by whites and determining nothing is wrong because you're doing better than those people. Again, thats a pretty low bar.

I know Ben carson is right about black parents in the Detroit public schools because I went there myself. It's a nightmare.

Blah Blah....Public Schools are shit period. Single family homes are across the board higher than the past. Why making this a blacks only focused response is where you are being disingenuous.

Step one, don't have kids if you don't plan on raising them right.

OH boy, great point also dont eat yellow snow. You act as if someone says "Great now I'm pregnant and I'm going to ruin their lives" and you're the brave soul to stand up to it.

If you have kids demand they take school seriously.

Dont drink the water in Mexico

There is very little the schools can do for a bad kid with bad parents. They end up passing many kids who never learned a thing. The teachers are babysitters. Overcrowded classrooms.

Overcrowed classrooms isnt the result of bad parents. Great parents living in an area with bad schools and good kids still see the same overcrowding silly

It seems to me I wouldn't have children in a place like this.

Who is to blame for the kid who has a kid next year? We need to stop having so many poor uneducated children having children

Congrats, hypothetically everyone should have a kid in a great area with white picket fences and stuff. Since its a hypothetical you are allowed to ignore every bad area and determine people in those areas should not have kids. Or move first and then have kids....or something stupid

 

[Asclepias]

We have problem areas in America and they're all black. Even poor white places don't have the same violent crime rates as these places.

You should be ashamed. Whites have had all the power in this nation and you're comparing the whites to blacks? "Hey whites are doing somewhat better than the people they legally oppressed for centuries so, thats something"

Congrats

Whites are afraid that after all that oppression they still havent convinced us of their white supremacy myth. They have to take us out along several fronts and then still cross their fingers.

Dude I feel sooo bad when I say mean things about black people. One thing I like is when you put me in check when I'm wrong. And I'm just telling you how I and a lot of white people feel when we see black people who come out to where we live and can't act right. I know it's not on you they don't represent you. And I really just want to fix this. I want companies hiring more black people. So I give advice like go to school and learn how to speak. Clearly I'm not talking about you. You're obviously intelligent and articulate.

So forgive me when I'm being ignorant. But I'm also going to challenge you because I think half the black communities problem is their own doing. I know it's our fault that the hoods are bad to begin with but why don't black people take any advice from Ben carson or Herman Cain?

I didn't say vote for them but some of their advice is good, no?

You cant fix people unless you are perfect. You cant give advice unless you have credibility and trust. Thats true of anyone. I'm sure Black people do take advice from Ben Carson and Herman Cain. Nothing they have said to my knowledge (that is positive) is any different from what Black people say all the time. The uncle tom stuff no real Black person is going to listen to. Of course some of their advice is good but as I said its nothing that most Blacks havent heard from their parents or grandparents.

 

[Asclepias]

We have problem areas in America and they're all black. Even poor white places don't have the same violent crime rates as these places.

You should be ashamed. Whites have had all the power in this nation and you're comparing the whites to blacks? "Hey whites are doing somewhat better than the people they legally oppressed for centuries so, thats something"

Congrats

Whites are afraid that after all that oppression they still havent convinced us of their white supremacy myth. They have to take us out along several fronts and then still cross their fingers.

I just read an article on facebook and it was like you wrote it. Google what white folk in the hood get wrong. Columbia professor Dr Emden said there are too many white teachers teaching in urban schools. I agree. I also think blacks should police their own communities too

Its not that all white teachers are an issue. Its the ones that dont understand Black people and dont value our culture, heroes, environment, etc. I've had a handful of white teachers that either understood or wanted to understand. I can deal with those. Its the lazy ones just collecting a check or the outright racist ones I have a problem with. The curriculum is the major issue. Subjects like history should be taught from a Black POV or whatever races are in the school.

BTW this is a pretty good article.

What 'white folks who teach in the hood' get wrong about education

 

[ClosedCaption]

I'm sure Black people do take advice from Ben Carson and Herman Cain. Nothing they have said to my knowledge (that is positive) is any different from what Black people say all the time.

This is the part that kills me. No matter how many times we repeat it or stand up to it or march for it white people sit on their asses doing not one thing for their community and determine the actions others are actually getting off their asses and doing is "not enough". Newsflash, nothing blacks have ever done has ever been "enough" to white people

 

[Meathead]

Newsflash, nothing blacks have ever done has ever been "enough" to white people

Dealing drugs, pimping and murder? There, blacks have done more than enough. Congratulations, I guess.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Newsflash, nothing blacks have ever done has ever been "enough" to white people

Dealing drugs, pimping and murder? There, blacks have done more than enough. Congratulations, I guess.

See?

 

[Asclepias]

I'm sure Black people do take advice from Ben Carson and Herman Cain. Nothing they have said to my knowledge (that is positive) is any different from what Black people say all the time.

This is the part that kills me. No matter how many times we repeat it or stand up to it or march for it white people sit on their asses doing not one thing for their community and determine the actions others are actually getting off their asses and doing is "not enough". Newsflash, nothing blacks have ever done has ever been "enough" to white people

Thats one of the reasons I dont care what silly white people think. What they think doesnt make my list of concerns. They cant stop me with their BS and I know that makes them nervous and scared.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm sure Black people do take advice from Ben Carson and Herman Cain. Nothing they have said to my knowledge (that is positive) is any different from what Black people say all the time.

This is the part that kills me. No matter how many times we repeat it or stand up to it or march for it white people sit on their asses doing not one thing for their community and determine the actions others are actually getting off their asses and doing is "not enough". Newsflash, nothing blacks have ever done has ever been "enough" to white people

Thats one of the reasons I dont care what silly white people think. What they think doesnt make my list of concerns. They cant stop me with their BS and I know that makes them nervous and scared.

13 current, former DPS principals charged with bribery, conspiracy

First one on the list, looks like he was on the Ellen Degeneris Show



Ellen DeGeneres, Lowe's donate $500,000 to Detroit school
Justin Bieber also pledges proceeds from upcoming Palace of Auburn Hills concert

That's money Lowe's and Bieber will never see again. LOL

 

[sealybobo]

 

[sealybobo]

3rd

Beverly Campbell
Principal at Detroit Public Schools



All of these people should be locked up for 10 years

 

[sealybobo]

Thief

 

[sealybobo]

These are the faces of the people waging war on black people. They steal from their children's education. This is unacceptable!!!

 

[sealybobo]

 

[sealybobo]

Just look at all these white devils

 

[sealybobo]

The school officials are accused of submitting fraudulent invoices to DPS for payments to the vendor for supplies which never were received. This was all done in exchange for kickback payments from the vendor, according to federal complaints.

U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said the charges come after a two-year investigation that started as a tip from the state who was conducting an audit on the Education Achievement Authority. However, all of the accused worked with DPS.

“This case is a real punch in the gut for those who are trying to do the right thing,” McQuade said.

McQuade said the vendor was paid $5 million from the district, of that amount, McQuade said investigators believe $2.7 million was fraudulent.

 

[JQPublic1]

No, the "war on drugs" was a strategy spawned in the mind of Richard M. Nixon to disrupt the lives of those he perceived
as enemies. Namely, anti-Vietnam protestors and more specifically , Blacks.

From the horse's mouth>> John Erhlichman :

“You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect. “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

Nixon Aide Reportedly Admitted Drug War Was Meant To Target Black People

Actually the "horse's mouth" would have been a Nixon quote.

Nixon was the enemy of black people? That's a load of crap.

The GOP is responsible for the association of hippies with drugs? REally?

1. The "horse" in this case is the inner circle of the Nixon Administration. That is why I accurately stated that John Erhlichman's statement is a quote from the "horse's" mouth.

2. When a top Nixon aide comes out and confesses his political sins, who am I to dispute his veracity. I am merely the messenger...believe what you want but the known results of that "war on drugs" are consistent with what Erhlicman said.

3. Yes, I believe Erhlichman. He had no good reason to lie and he was right in the middle formulating that strategy. But now we know that the impetus of that plan struck Blacks the hardest since their neighborhoods and vehicles were targeted more...even though Whites and Blacks are still using drugs at the same rates.

One thing to consider here is the impact Asset Forfeiture laws had on the Black community. Blacks driving nice cars or living in nice homes became targets even though they had no ties to criminal activity. Corrupt cops could easily plant dope just to be able to confiscate a person's vehicle or house. And anyone caught carrying large amounts of cash could have it confiscated without any charges being filed...the cash being evidence that something illegal had taken place. This kind of wealth redistribution, from the Black community to law enforcement coffers, was in full force and is now being considered for expansion under federal law, making it a national mandate that can be used by any tier of government anywhere in the USA.

1. Nixon's policies and history on Civil Rights trumps what some aide claims.

2. When he is claiming that Nixon was behind getting people to associate hippy with grass? Yes.

3. Who said he didn't have a reason to lie?

1.Nixon's policy and history on civil rights was just as anemic as any other presidents with the exception of that old racist LBJ.

2. Well, I will take Erlichman's word over yours any day. He was right there talking face to face with Nixon...Where were YOU?

3. The evening news verifies what Erhlichman said nightly. Even you cannot deny that!

4. I noticed you ignored the asset Forfeiture narrative... that might have been wise...heh heh heh!

1. Tell the to the students and parents of segregated school in the South. Nixon landed on them like a ton of bricks.

2. Even when he is claiming that Nixon is responsible for the association of pot with hippies....I guess it helps that he is saying what you want to hear.

3. The nightly news verifies that the black community is all kind of fucked up. Not that the War of Drugs is a War against Black People. That is your confirmation bias speaking.

4. The real abuses of the forfeiture laws didn't really take off to long after Nixon. And you just assume that if it effects a black person that it was targeted at a black person.

1. Nixon was known to be a staunch conservative but he was also a clever politician. I think his overtures towards Blacks were not his own personal choices but were stoked by the circumstances of his era. Nixon became president in the aftermath of a succession of riots and the US was still engaged in an economically senseless war that had lasted longer than any in US history. Public opinion was instrumental in shaping Nixon's decisions to address both issues. Nixon must have weighed the ramifications of MLK's death even though it didn't happen on HIS watch. Considering the Civil Rights initiatives of Kennedy and Johnson were already ensconced in the law of the land as adjuncts to the 1954 Brown vs Topeka Ks decision I wonder if he had a better choice than to faithfully execute his duties to maintain domestic tranquility.

2. What I want to hear is not the issue, it is what the man said, period. the term "hippies" is just another catchall euphemism like YOU use the word "liberal." The point being made is that if "hippies" weren't involved in protesting the Vietnam War they wouldn't have been targeted . But , as the reality of FBI crime statistics show, Blacks were/are targeted, prosecuted, sentenced and incarcerated far more than White "hippies." Public sympathy for civil rights was "trumped" by the perception of the angry Black man who was far more of a threat than "hippies"and "flower children."


3. Your response here is exactly what Erhlichman was pointing to. Your deduction that
"the nightly news verifies that the black community is all kind of fucked up" comes from the source itself...the nightly news.
The news doesn't show too many images of Blacks going to work every day, going to church and contributing to society. That is what the majority of them do! Are those decent citizens obligated to ignore Erhlichman's confession? would YOU ignore any similar confession coming from some aide to Sharpton that validates anything you thought previously about HIM?

4. Proponents of Forfeiture Asset Laws are not going to risk having those unconstitutional laws revoked by using them too often against White people. Most of the cases I have seen publicized have involved minorities. White motor cycle gangs and those Whites who get caught soliciting prostitutes have had their vehicles forfeited and everything it contained but I haven't heard of a White person getting his/her money forfeited just because they had too much on their person. Consider this excerpt from a letter sent by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights to the Senate Judiciary Committee :

In response to such suspicionless seizures, the Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 2000 was introduced in Congress. During that time, a study by the ACLU found that in “traffic stops, airport searches, and drug arrests … minorities are hardest hit.”[iii]This continues to be the case more than a decade later. A recent series of articles by The Washington Post chronicling the issue of civil asset forfeiture and particular abuses found that “of the 400 court cases examined by The Post where people who challenged seizures and received some money back, the majority were black, Hispanic or another minority.”[iv] Very few people have the resources to challenge the government, especially when the burden of proof favors the government over the rights of property owners, as is the case in civil asset forfeiture proceedings.

Support Effective & Comprehensive Federal Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform

 

[Asclepias]

The school officials are accused of submitting fraudulent invoices to DPS for payments to the vendor for supplies which never were received. This was all done in exchange for kickback payments from the vendor, according to federal complaints.

U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said the charges come after a two-year investigation that started as a tip from the state who was conducting an audit on the Education Achievement Authority. However, all of the accused worked with DPS.

“This case is a real punch in the gut for those who are trying to do the right thing,” McQuade said.

McQuade said the vendor was paid $5 million from the district, of that amount, McQuade said investigators believe $2.7 million was fraudulent.

Sounds like Black people are learning how scam just like whites do. I dont understand why you posted that?