There Is A Real Problem...

[IM2]

....but it isn't the climate.



1.When dealing with individuals for whom reality is merely a suggestion, there is always the question of….dare I say…..mental illness.
If such is determined to be the case, well…..sometimes mandatory confinement is appropriate.
Hence….the application of the term ‘Greeniac.’



2. No matter how often data and experience disproves the fraudulent science of environmentalism, we find a sizable portion of the electorate clings to view that global warming is real, and that efforts such as no longer eating hamburger will alleviate the impending crisis. Reminding these….victims….that real science is base on experimentation is to no avail.


3. The individuals in question have developed the ability to ignore facts that obviate their …delusions. “Environmentalists and their political allies attribute the recent increase in deadly forest fires to global warming. However, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Forest Service, forest fires reached their peak in the 1930s and have declined by 80% since then. Environmentalists hide the earlier data and make their case for the effects of global warming by showing the public and policymakers data from 1980 that shows an increase in forest fires.”
Scientists: Dishonest or Afraid?


4. “Climate scientists claim that rising sea levels are caused by man-made global warming. Historical data from the tide gauge in Lower Manhattan shows that sea levels have been rising from about the time when Abraham Lincoln was president to now. … sea levels have been rising for about 20,000 years. …. anthropologists believe that when the sea level was very low people were able to walk from Siberia to North America.” Ibid.


5. “Hot weather is often claimed to be a result of man-made climate change. Heller presents data showing the number of days in Waverly, Ohio, above 90 degrees. In 1895, there were 73 days above 90 degrees. In 1936, there were 82 days above 90 degrees. Since the 1930s, there has been a downward trend in the number of days above 90 degrees. If climatologists hide data from earlier years and started at 1955, they show an increase in the number of above 90-degree days from eight or nine to 30 or 40. Thus, to deceive us into thinking the climate is getting hotter, environmentalists have selected a starting date that fits their agenda.” Ibid.




6. This aberrant behavior that we see in committed greeniacs is not unknown.

“Perseveration is the contextually inappropriate and unintentional repetition of a response or behavioral unit. In schizophrenia, perseveration may take a variety of forms. These can be conceptualized as varying manifestations of an underlying neurocognitive deficit.
Perseveration in Schizophrenia - Oxford Journals
https://academic.oup.com › schizophreniabulletin › article-pdf



An immediate intervention is required!!!

My $0.02:

• Climate changes. It always has and always will. In the past, NYC was under 100s of feet of ice. That has changed.
• Glaciers around the world are generally retreating, pointing to a global temperature rise.
• The rising temperatures may be natural or man-made but it doesn't matter, the effects will be the same.
  
• Anything we do to mitigate rising temperatures will have the same success, regardless of the cause.
• If we make reasonable efforts to make the world energy use more efficient and rising temperatures are real, we may mitigate its' worst effects, if rising temperatures are not real, we have made the world a richer place.

what is it you are proposing exactly? Did ice melt on its own in the past? If so, why do you think we cause ice to melt?

And if you believe we cause ice to melt, how?

I can melt ice with my eyes....it's one of my superpowers….it takes a few minutes.

You can turn people to stone just by looking at you too. You might want to get a better hair style pol pot, those snakes on top of your head really look bad.

 

[jc456]

....but it isn't the climate.



1.When dealing with individuals for whom reality is merely a suggestion, there is always the question of….dare I say…..mental illness.
If such is determined to be the case, well…..sometimes mandatory confinement is appropriate.
Hence….the application of the term ‘Greeniac.’



2. No matter how often data and experience disproves the fraudulent science of environmentalism, we find a sizable portion of the electorate clings to view that global warming is real, and that efforts such as no longer eating hamburger will alleviate the impending crisis. Reminding these….victims….that real science is base on experimentation is to no avail.


3. The individuals in question have developed the ability to ignore facts that obviate their …delusions. “Environmentalists and their political allies attribute the recent increase in deadly forest fires to global warming. However, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Forest Service, forest fires reached their peak in the 1930s and have declined by 80% since then. Environmentalists hide the earlier data and make their case for the effects of global warming by showing the public and policymakers data from 1980 that shows an increase in forest fires.”
Scientists: Dishonest or Afraid?


4. “Climate scientists claim that rising sea levels are caused by man-made global warming. Historical data from the tide gauge in Lower Manhattan shows that sea levels have been rising from about the time when Abraham Lincoln was president to now. … sea levels have been rising for about 20,000 years. …. anthropologists believe that when the sea level was very low people were able to walk from Siberia to North America.” Ibid.


5. “Hot weather is often claimed to be a result of man-made climate change. Heller presents data showing the number of days in Waverly, Ohio, above 90 degrees. In 1895, there were 73 days above 90 degrees. In 1936, there were 82 days above 90 degrees. Since the 1930s, there has been a downward trend in the number of days above 90 degrees. If climatologists hide data from earlier years and started at 1955, they show an increase in the number of above 90-degree days from eight or nine to 30 or 40. Thus, to deceive us into thinking the climate is getting hotter, environmentalists have selected a starting date that fits their agenda.” Ibid.




6. This aberrant behavior that we see in committed greeniacs is not unknown.

“Perseveration is the contextually inappropriate and unintentional repetition of a response or behavioral unit. In schizophrenia, perseveration may take a variety of forms. These can be conceptualized as varying manifestations of an underlying neurocognitive deficit.
Perseveration in Schizophrenia - Oxford Journals
https://academic.oup.com › schizophreniabulletin › article-pdf



An immediate intervention is required!!!

My $0.02:

• Climate changes. It always has and always will. In the past, NYC was under 100s of feet of ice. That has changed.
• Glaciers around the world are generally retreating, pointing to a global temperature rise.
• The rising temperatures may be natural or man-made but it doesn't matter, the effects will be the same.
  
• Anything we do to mitigate rising temperatures will have the same success, regardless of the cause.
• If we make reasonable efforts to make the world energy use more efficient and rising temperatures are real, we may mitigate its' worst effects, if rising temperatures are not real, we have made the world a richer place.

what is it you are proposing exactly? Did ice melt on its own in the past? If so, why do you think we cause ice to melt?

And if you believe we cause ice to melt, how?

I can melt ice with my eyes....it's one of my superpowers….it takes a few minutes.

You can turn people to stone just by looking at you too. You might want to get a better hair style pol pot, those snakes on top of your head really look bad.

Hmmm how would you know if the snakes turn people into stone? I’m just saying, that’s not logical

 

[IM2]

....but it isn't the climate.



1.When dealing with individuals for whom reality is merely a suggestion, there is always the question of….dare I say…..mental illness.
If such is determined to be the case, well…..sometimes mandatory confinement is appropriate.
Hence….the application of the term ‘Greeniac.’



2. No matter how often data and experience disproves the fraudulent science of environmentalism, we find a sizable portion of the electorate clings to view that global warming is real, and that efforts such as no longer eating hamburger will alleviate the impending crisis. Reminding these….victims….that real science is base on experimentation is to no avail.


3. The individuals in question have developed the ability to ignore facts that obviate their …delusions. “Environmentalists and their political allies attribute the recent increase in deadly forest fires to global warming. However, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Forest Service, forest fires reached their peak in the 1930s and have declined by 80% since then. Environmentalists hide the earlier data and make their case for the effects of global warming by showing the public and policymakers data from 1980 that shows an increase in forest fires.”
Scientists: Dishonest or Afraid?


4. “Climate scientists claim that rising sea levels are caused by man-made global warming. Historical data from the tide gauge in Lower Manhattan shows that sea levels have been rising from about the time when Abraham Lincoln was president to now. … sea levels have been rising for about 20,000 years. …. anthropologists believe that when the sea level was very low people were able to walk from Siberia to North America.” Ibid.


5. “Hot weather is often claimed to be a result of man-made climate change. Heller presents data showing the number of days in Waverly, Ohio, above 90 degrees. In 1895, there were 73 days above 90 degrees. In 1936, there were 82 days above 90 degrees. Since the 1930s, there has been a downward trend in the number of days above 90 degrees. If climatologists hide data from earlier years and started at 1955, they show an increase in the number of above 90-degree days from eight or nine to 30 or 40. Thus, to deceive us into thinking the climate is getting hotter, environmentalists have selected a starting date that fits their agenda.” Ibid.




6. This aberrant behavior that we see in committed greeniacs is not unknown.

“Perseveration is the contextually inappropriate and unintentional repetition of a response or behavioral unit. In schizophrenia, perseveration may take a variety of forms. These can be conceptualized as varying manifestations of an underlying neurocognitive deficit.
Perseveration in Schizophrenia - Oxford Journals
https://academic.oup.com › schizophreniabulletin › article-pdf



An immediate intervention is required!!!

My $0.02:

• Climate changes. It always has and always will. In the past, NYC was under 100s of feet of ice. That has changed.
• Glaciers around the world are generally retreating, pointing to a global temperature rise.
• The rising temperatures may be natural or man-made but it doesn't matter, the effects will be the same.
  
• Anything we do to mitigate rising temperatures will have the same success, regardless of the cause.
• If we make reasonable efforts to make the world energy use more efficient and rising temperatures are real, we may mitigate its' worst effects, if rising temperatures are not real, we have made the world a richer place.

what is it you are proposing exactly? Did ice melt on its own in the past? If so, why do you think we cause ice to melt?

And if you believe we cause ice to melt, how?

I can melt ice with my eyes....it's one of my superpowers….it takes a few minutes.

You can turn people to stone just by looking at you too. You might want to get a better hair style pol pot, those snakes on top of your head really look bad.

Hmmm how would you know if the snakes turn people into stone? I’m just saying, that’s not logical

I didn't say they would..

You can turn people to stone just by looking at you too.

 

[Frannie]

you care that it's melting? why? it's been melting since the world was covered in it. we exist now, and you're concerned it's melting? you want us dead under ice? you're certainly very confused. Not sure why ice is so important in your life. BTW, it isn't melting in the arctic or antarctic.

I care that sea levels may change. Mankind will certainly survive whatever flooding comes but men may die in the millions. Aside from the humanitarian issue, I don't want Floridians to migrate to my state before we can build a wall. On the other hand I may get some beachfront property. Winners and losers.

Do you really think that we could build anything that would effectively hold back the ocean for any period of time that would make it worth the expense of trying to build it? The oceans are rising at a rate of a couple of mm per year. The "retreat from the beach" will be a very slow..very long process and won't likely result in people fleeing the state. More people migrate in the US to escape taxes than they do to escape rising sea levels...

The Oceans have been rising for 20000 years, get used to it because it is not stopping. It is also rising far less fast now than in the past

 

[ReinyDays]

When climate drives a dry wind over an ice field, the moisture uptake does DEFINITELY depend on the permanence of the ice. If the ice is gone there will by NO moisture uptake.

Ice melts into water ... the dry winds take that up just as well as it does over ice, whether permanent or not ...

Actually, I may have been too conservative. Florida alone is more than 65,000 sq miles and the average elevation in Florida is 6 feet,some places are as little as 3 feet above sea level.

I've been on the east coast of Florida ... there's a 20 foot berm protecting the 1A1, the highway along all the beaches ... the ocean isn't getting past it with just a two foot rise ... the Everglades Parkway west of Miami is 20 foot high, no two foot rise gets past that ...

I understand how coastal erosion effects the extensive salt marshes that are found in that area ... but most of that has been paved, and houses built and sewer systems and the like ... AND ten foot sea walls in place ... AND three or four generations to get anything done ... c'mon, this is all hurricane country, sea level rise is the least of their worries ...

Climate has a lot to do with temperature, ocean temperature. Living with El Nino, you should understand. A small change in ocean temperature or a change in ocean circulation can have a large impact on climate.

El Nino is a dynamic event, climate uses long term averages to remove this effect, "averaging it out" over ten or twelve oscillations ... no different than having a dry winter every five years or so ... that would be factored in to the 100 year average precipitation rate in winter ...

Ocean temperature (and therefore the air above the ocean) doesn't effect the Oceanic climate all that much ... far far more important is temperature difference over a distance ... this has to do with air being pressed down on liquid water, and the physics that happens because of this ... if the ocean warms 2ºC, these differences are the same, all the weather we see over the oceans today will be the same in 100 years ...

Sea surface currents are driven by the wind and are directed by the continental margins ... neither of which are changing ... "change in ocean circulation" is just scary without any basis in fact ... I don't know why you threw that in here, but it's pure and unprocessed hyperbole ...

 

[mamooth]

This is the level of insanity the Left has induced.

At this stage, you're only interesting as a psychological study in personalty disorders, an example of how fanatical cultists often willingly devolve themselves into pathological liars.

I provide Liberal man-hating Senator Hirono, actually saying "It's a religion, not science"

This isn't a debate, liar. You're faking quotes. All of your own links say so. You gave three links. All three of them say you're faking the quote. All of your own sources say you're lying to everyone's face.

Is Climate Change Activism a Religion?
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Hawaiian Senator Mazie Hirono recently stated that people should “believe in climate change as though it’s a religion.” She then very quickly added, “It’s not, it’s science.”
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Democratic senator treats climate change like a religion - The Locker Room
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Hirono told the audience to “Believe in climate change as though it’s a religion, it’s not, it’s science.”
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Democrat Sen. Mazie Hirono: 'Believe in Climate Change as Though It's a Religion'
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Believe in climate change as though it's a religion, it's not, it's science
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It's kind of funny, just how brazen you are with your dishonesty. I'm guessing that, hanging around with other Trump cultists, you're used to be able to lie with impunity and never get called on it.

which anyone can hear her say at 37 seconds into the vid....

Anyone listening can clearly hear that you're lying about what was said.

and this howling mental patient with the cat avi says I faked it....

I didn't just say it. All of your own sources say it. Sucks to be you. Remember kook, you can't gaslight normal people. Heck, in this case, you couldn't even gaslight your fellow cultists. Even they won't jump up on this liar-wagon with you, that's how bad it smells.

Learn a lesson from this. You could have just said "Oops, I was wrong, but she still said something dumb". You could have just said nothing. But wait, you couldn't have done that. After all, sociopaths are emotionally incapable of admitting any error, no matter how tiny. So you doubled down on stupid, dug deeper into the liar hole, and now you're humiliated and hellbound. That couldn't have happened to a more disgusting human being.

 

[skookerasbil]

This is the level of insanity the Left has induced.

At this stage, you're only interesting as a psychological study in personalty disorders, an example of how fanatical cultists often willingly devolve themselves into pathological liars.

I provide Liberal man-hating Senator Hirono, actually saying "It's a religion, not science"

This isn't a debate, liar. You're faking quotes. All of your own links say so. You gave three links. All three of them say you're faking the quote. All of your own sources say you're lying to everyone's face.

Is Climate Change Activism a Religion?
---
Hawaiian Senator Mazie Hirono recently stated that people should “believe in climate change as though it’s a religion.” She then very quickly added, “It’s not, it’s science.”
---

Democratic senator treats climate change like a religion - The Locker Room
---
Hirono told the audience to “Believe in climate change as though it’s a religion, it’s not, it’s science.”
---

Democrat Sen. Mazie Hirono: 'Believe in Climate Change as Though It's a Religion'
---
Believe in climate change as though it's a religion, it's not, it's science
---

It's kind of funny, just how brazen you are with your dishonesty. I'm guessing that, hanging around with other Trump cultists, you're used to be able to lie with impunity and never get called on it.

which anyone can hear her say at 37 seconds into the vid....

Anyone listening can clearly hear that you're lying about what was said.

and this howling mental patient with the cat avi says I faked it....

I didn't just say it. All of your own sources say it. Sucks to be you. Remember kook, you can't gaslight normal people. Heck, in this case, you couldn't even gaslight your fellow cultists. Even they won't jump up on this liar-wagon with you, that's how bad it smells.

Learn a lesson from this. You could have just said "Oops, I was wrong, but she still said something dumb". You could have just said nothing. But wait, you couldn't have done that. After all, sociopaths are emotionally incapable of admitting any error, no matter how tiny. So you doubled down on stupid, dug deeper into the liar hole, and now you're humiliated and hellbound. That couldn't have happened to a more disgusting human being.

Lol.....I love when the AGW k00ks get publically pwn'd. You see the anger, the misery and the head explosions every time!!

Again...."cults" by definition constitute a pronounced minority. AGW devotee's rant about a need for climate change action. None has happened placing climate- skeptics in the clear majority.

The eco-anxiety k00ks are the cult......Ooooooops!

 

[mamooth]

Lol.....I love when the AGW k00ks get publically pwn'd. You see the anger, the misery and the head explosions every time!!

Liars burn in Hell, skook. You're going to burn for backing up PC's open lie. That is, unless you repent. Publicly.

Think about that. Up in heaven, we liberals will watch you burning. We pwn your for eternity. For a wrist-flapper like you, knowing the liberals have pwned you will be even worse than the endless burning agony.

 

[SSDD]

Lol.....I love when the AGW k00ks get publically pwn'd. You see the anger, the misery and the head explosions every time!!

Liars burn in Hell, skook. You're going to burn for backing up PC's open lie. That is, unless you repent. Publicly.

Think about that. Up in heaven, we liberals will watch you burning. We pwn your for eternity. For a wrist-flapper like you, knowing the liberals have pwned you will be even worse than the endless burning agony.

And the wait continues for that single piece of observed, measured evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability....in 30 years all that has ever been produced is claims that the evidence has been produced, and evidence that the klimate kultists are easily fooled.

Lets see it hairball...you are among the most vociferous in the claim that it is out there and even that you have produced it. Lets see it...or lets hear the dodge du jour for not producing it...

 

[alang1216]

you care that it's melting? why? it's been melting since the world was covered in it. we exist now, and you're concerned it's melting? you want us dead under ice? you're certainly very confused. Not sure why ice is so important in your life. BTW, it isn't melting in the arctic or antarctic.

I care that sea levels may change. Mankind will certainly survive whatever flooding comes but men may die in the millions. Aside from the humanitarian issue, I don't want Floridians to migrate to my state before we can build a wall. On the other hand I may get some beachfront property. Winners and losers.

Do you really think that we could build anything that would effectively hold back the ocean for any period of time that would make it worth the expense of trying to build it? The oceans are rising at a rate of a couple of mm per year. The "retreat from the beach" will be a very slow..very long process and won't likely result in people fleeing the state. More people migrate in the US to escape taxes than they do to escape rising sea levels...

The Oceans have been rising for 20000 years, get used to it because it is not stopping. It is also rising far less fast now than in the past

What does "get used to" sea level rise mean? Do I stick my head in the sand and ignore it until it threatens my house or do I study and plan a remedy or remediation now?

 

[Frannie]

you care that it's melting? why? it's been melting since the world was covered in it. we exist now, and you're concerned it's melting? you want us dead under ice? you're certainly very confused. Not sure why ice is so important in your life. BTW, it isn't melting in the arctic or antarctic.

I care that sea levels may change. Mankind will certainly survive whatever flooding comes but men may die in the millions. Aside from the humanitarian issue, I don't want Floridians to migrate to my state before we can build a wall. On the other hand I may get some beachfront property. Winners and losers.

Do you really think that we could build anything that would effectively hold back the ocean for any period of time that would make it worth the expense of trying to build it? The oceans are rising at a rate of a couple of mm per year. The "retreat from the beach" will be a very slow..very long process and won't likely result in people fleeing the state. More people migrate in the US to escape taxes than they do to escape rising sea levels...

The Oceans have been rising for 20000 years, get used to it because it is not stopping. It is also rising far less fast now than in the past

What does "get used to" sea level rise mean? Do I stick my head in the sand and ignore it until it threatens my house or do I study and plan a remedy or remediation now?

It means kid that the sea level was drastically lower 20000 years ago and began rising when the ce age began to end, since the ice is still melting he sea is still rising. All in all you are a dumb fuck for living where you so. What do you want trillions of dollars for outdoor freezers.

Plenty of room in the rockies kiddypoo

 

[alang1216]

Actually, I may have been too conservative. Florida alone is more than 65,000 sq miles and the average elevation in Florida is 6 feet,some places are as little as 3 feet above sea level.

I've been on the east coast of Florida ... there's a 20 foot berm protecting the 1A1, the highway along all the beaches ... the ocean isn't getting past it with just a two foot rise ... the Everglades Parkway west of Miami is 20 foot high, no two foot rise gets past that ...

I understand how coastal erosion effects the extensive salt marshes that are found in that area ... but most of that has been paved, and houses built and sewer systems and the like ... AND ten foot sea walls in place ... AND three or four generations to get anything done ... c'mon, this is all hurricane country, sea level rise is the least of their worries ...

Hardly. Most of the damage from a hurricane is from the storm surge. Any rise in sea level will make that surge even more potent. Florida can deal with hurricanes, sea level rise is their existential threat.

Climate has a lot to do with temperature, ocean temperature. Living with El Nino, you should understand. A small change in ocean temperature or a change in ocean circulation can have a large impact on climate.

Sea surface currents are driven by the wind and are directed by the continental margins ... neither of which are changing ... "change in ocean circulation" is just scary without any basis in fact ... I don't know why you threw that in here, but it's pure and unprocessed hyperbole ...

"change in ocean circulation" is scary but it does have a basis in fact:

The global conveyor belt is a strong, but easily disrupted process. Research suggests that the conveyor belt may be affected by climate change. If global warming results in increased rainfall in the North Atlantic, and the melting of glaciers and sea ice, the influx of warm freshwater onto the sea surface could block the formation of sea ice, disrupting the sinking of cold, salty water. This sequence of events could slow or even stop the conveyor belt, which could result in potentially drastic temperature changes in Europe.​

 

[alang1216]

Plenty of room in the rockies kiddypoo

Thanks for the invite. Does that include the 100 million of my closest American friends who live along the US coasts?

 

[Frannie]

Plenty of room in the rockies kiddypoo

Thanks for the invite. Does that include the 100 million of my closest American friends who live along the US coasts?

Again the sea has been rising since the ice began melting 20000 years ago. Nothing you can do about it. Bye the way why are banks still handing out 30 year mortgages along the beach if their investment will be lost

Knucklehead

 

[Frannie]

Actually, I may have been too conservative. Florida alone is more than 65,000 sq miles and the average elevation in Florida is 6 feet,some places are as little as 3 feet above sea level.

I've been on the east coast of Florida ... there's a 20 foot berm protecting the 1A1, the highway along all the beaches ... the ocean isn't getting past it with just a two foot rise ... the Everglades Parkway west of Miami is 20 foot high, no two foot rise gets past that ...

I understand how coastal erosion effects the extensive salt marshes that are found in that area ... but most of that has been paved, and houses built and sewer systems and the like ... AND ten foot sea walls in place ... AND three or four generations to get anything done ... c'mon, this is all hurricane country, sea level rise is the least of their worries ...

Hardly. Most of the damage from a hurricane is from the storm surge. Any rise in sea level will make that surge even more potent. Florida can deal with hurricanes, sea level rise is their existential threat.

Climate has a lot to do with temperature, ocean temperature. Living with El Nino, you should understand. A small change in ocean temperature or a change in ocean circulation can have a large impact on climate.

Sea surface currents are driven by the wind and are directed by the continental margins ... neither of which are changing ... "change in ocean circulation" is just scary without any basis in fact ... I don't know why you threw that in here, but it's pure and unprocessed hyperbole ...

"change in ocean circulation" is scary but it does have a basis in fact:

The global conveyor belt is a strong, but easily disrupted process. Research suggests that the conveyor belt may be affected by climate change. If global warming results in increased rainfall in the North Atlantic, and the melting of glaciers and sea ice, the influx of warm freshwater onto the sea surface could block the formation of sea ice, disrupting the sinking of cold, salty water. This sequence of events could slow or even stop the conveyor belt, which could result in potentially drastic temperature changes in Europe.​

The storm surge only effects imbessiles who bought and built just above the high tide line. Like u

 

[alang1216]

The storm surge only effects imbessiles who bought and built just above the high tide line. Like u

Your compassion is as deep as your understanding of the world.

 

[PoliticalChic]

....but it isn't the climate.



1.When dealing with individuals for whom reality is merely a suggestion, there is always the question of….dare I say…..mental illness.
If such is determined to be the case, well…..sometimes mandatory confinement is appropriate.
Hence….the application of the term ‘Greeniac.’



2. No matter how often data and experience disproves the fraudulent science of environmentalism, we find a sizable portion of the electorate clings to view that global warming is real, and that efforts such as no longer eating hamburger will alleviate the impending crisis. Reminding these….victims….that real science is base on experimentation is to no avail.


3. The individuals in question have developed the ability to ignore facts that obviate their …delusions. “Environmentalists and their political allies attribute the recent increase in deadly forest fires to global warming. However, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Forest Service, forest fires reached their peak in the 1930s and have declined by 80% since then. Environmentalists hide the earlier data and make their case for the effects of global warming by showing the public and policymakers data from 1980 that shows an increase in forest fires.”
Scientists: Dishonest or Afraid?


4. “Climate scientists claim that rising sea levels are caused by man-made global warming. Historical data from the tide gauge in Lower Manhattan shows that sea levels have been rising from about the time when Abraham Lincoln was president to now. … sea levels have been rising for about 20,000 years. …. anthropologists believe that when the sea level was very low people were able to walk from Siberia to North America.” Ibid.


5. “Hot weather is often claimed to be a result of man-made climate change. Heller presents data showing the number of days in Waverly, Ohio, above 90 degrees. In 1895, there were 73 days above 90 degrees. In 1936, there were 82 days above 90 degrees. Since the 1930s, there has been a downward trend in the number of days above 90 degrees. If climatologists hide data from earlier years and started at 1955, they show an increase in the number of above 90-degree days from eight or nine to 30 or 40. Thus, to deceive us into thinking the climate is getting hotter, environmentalists have selected a starting date that fits their agenda.” Ibid.




6. This aberrant behavior that we see in committed greeniacs is not unknown.

“Perseveration is the contextually inappropriate and unintentional repetition of a response or behavioral unit. In schizophrenia, perseveration may take a variety of forms. These can be conceptualized as varying manifestations of an underlying neurocognitive deficit.
Perseveration in Schizophrenia - Oxford Journals
https://academic.oup.com › schizophreniabulletin › article-pdf



An immediate intervention is required!!!

My $0.02:

• Climate changes. It always has and always will. In the past, NYC was under 100s of feet of ice. That has changed.
• Glaciers around the world are generally retreating, pointing to a global temperature rise.
• The rising temperatures may be natural or man-made but it doesn't matter, the effects will be the same.
  
• Anything we do to mitigate rising temperatures will have the same success, regardless of the cause.
• If we make reasonable efforts to make the world energy use more efficient and rising temperatures are real, we may mitigate its' worst effects, if rising temperatures are not real, we have made the world a richer place.

what is it you are proposing exactly? Did ice melt on its own in the past? If so, why do you think we cause ice to melt?

And if you believe we cause ice to melt, how?

I can melt ice with my eyes....it's one of my superpowers….it takes a few minutes.

You can turn people to stone just by looking at you too. You might want to get a better hair style pol pot, those snakes on top of your head really look bad.

You seem to do an awful lot of lookin'.....

Sooo.....when do you turn to stone?

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is the level of insanity the Left has induced.

At this stage, you're only interesting as a psychological study in personalty disorders, an example of how fanatical cultists often willingly devolve themselves into pathological liars.

I provide Liberal man-hating Senator Hirono, actually saying "It's a religion, not science"

This isn't a debate, liar. You're faking quotes. All of your own links say so. You gave three links. All three of them say you're faking the quote. All of your own sources say you're lying to everyone's face.

Is Climate Change Activism a Religion?
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Hawaiian Senator Mazie Hirono recently stated that people should “believe in climate change as though it’s a religion.” She then very quickly added, “It’s not, it’s science.”
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Democratic senator treats climate change like a religion - The Locker Room
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Hirono told the audience to “Believe in climate change as though it’s a religion, it’s not, it’s science.”
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Democrat Sen. Mazie Hirono: 'Believe in Climate Change as Though It's a Religion'
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Believe in climate change as though it's a religion, it's not, it's science
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It's kind of funny, just how brazen you are with your dishonesty. I'm guessing that, hanging around with other Trump cultists, you're used to be able to lie with impunity and never get called on it.

which anyone can hear her say at 37 seconds into the vid....

Anyone listening can clearly hear that you're lying about what was said.

and this howling mental patient with the cat avi says I faked it....

I didn't just say it. All of your own sources say it. Sucks to be you. Remember kook, you can't gaslight normal people. Heck, in this case, you couldn't even gaslight your fellow cultists. Even they won't jump up on this liar-wagon with you, that's how bad it smells.

Learn a lesson from this. You could have just said "Oops, I was wrong, but she still said something dumb". You could have just said nothing. But wait, you couldn't have done that. After all, sociopaths are emotionally incapable of admitting any error, no matter how tiny. So you doubled down on stupid, dug deeper into the liar hole, and now you're humiliated and hellbound. That couldn't have happened to a more disgusting human being.

Are you really this sick???


Everyone can hear Hirono say exactly what I said she did.

"Believe in climate change as though it's a religion, it's not a science"








But you said the headline was a 'dumb lie.'

Now you're admitting she said it....but want to 'adjust' it to make it more palatible to morons like you....



Anyone can listen and will hear her say it is a religion, not science.



Even with Hirono saying it herself???




"...it's a religion, it's not a science."


Right at 0:37 seconds.

There Is A Real Problem...

 

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Lol.....I love when the AGW k00ks get publically pwn'd. You see the anger, the misery and the head explosions every time!!

Liars burn in Hell, skook. You're going to burn for backing up PC's open lie. That is, unless you repent. Publicly.

Think about that. Up in heaven, we liberals will watch you burning. We pwn your for eternity. For a wrist-flapper like you, knowing the liberals have pwned you will be even worse than the endless burning agony.

Are you really this sick???


Everyone can hear Hirono say exactly what I said she did.

"Believe in climate change as though it's a religion, it's not a science"








But you said the headline was a 'dumb lie.'

Now you're admitting she said it....but want to 'adjust' it to make it more palatible to morons like you....



Anyone can listen and will hear her say it is a religion, not science.



Even with Hirono saying it herself???




"...it's a religion, it's not a science."


Right at 0:37 seconds.

There Is A Real Problem...

 

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you care that it's melting? why? it's been melting since the world was covered in it. we exist now, and you're concerned it's melting? you want us dead under ice? you're certainly very confused. Not sure why ice is so important in your life. BTW, it isn't melting in the arctic or antarctic.

I care that sea levels may change. Mankind will certainly survive whatever flooding comes but men may die in the millions. Aside from the humanitarian issue, I don't want Floridians to migrate to my state before we can build a wall. On the other hand I may get some beachfront property. Winners and losers.

Do you really think that we could build anything that would effectively hold back the ocean for any period of time that would make it worth the expense of trying to build it? The oceans are rising at a rate of a couple of mm per year. The "retreat from the beach" will be a very slow..very long process and won't likely result in people fleeing the state. More people migrate in the US to escape taxes than they do to escape rising sea levels...

The Oceans have been rising for 20000 years, get used to it because it is not stopping. It is also rising far less fast now than in the past

What does "get used to" sea level rise mean? Do I stick my head in the sand and ignore it until it threatens my house or do I study and plan a remedy or remediation now?

"Report: Decades of Failed Eco-Pocalypse Predictions

Study captures more than 50 years of false claims from environmentalists


The apocalyptic claims of environmentalists have failed repeatedly for decades, but that has not stopped top Democrats from panicking, according to a new study.

…a copy of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's 2018 report on the effects of global warming…. The IPCC report "paints a far more dire picture of the immediate consequences of climate change than previously thought," according to the New York Times. It has also served as the partial basis of dire predictions from leading liberal politicians. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) has predicted that the world will end in 12 years, and that Miami will no longer exist if her Green New Deal is not passed. Presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg has even suggested people who eat hamburgers and use plastic straws are "part of the problem."

Such dire predictions, the new CEI report said, are nothing new. There is a long history of prominent politicians and scientists predicting imminent crises that never quite come to pass.

…stretches back to infamous Stanford biologist Paul Ehrlich's prediction that, as of 1967, it was "already too late for the world to avoid a long period of famine," which he expected to come by 1975. Ehrlich would gain notoriety for similarly dire predictions in his 1968 book The Population Bomb, and for subsequently losing a bet on global scarcity to economist Julian Simon.

Air pollution has been another popular topic of alarm. A number of scientists, including a NASA expert and a whole panel convened at Brown University, predicted that "air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first third of the next century," in the words of a 1970 Boston Globe report. Air pollution has declined steadily for decades.

In the 1980s, scientists projected both epic floods, with the Maldives under water by the 2010s, and epic droughts, with regions going parched starting in the 1990s. None of these predictions came to pass.

More recent scientists are not immune. The CEI report cites Dr. David Viner, a climate researcher at the University of East Anglia, who in 2000 predicted snowfall would soon become "a very rare and exciting event. … Children just aren't going to know what snow is." In 2008, one NASA scientist told Congress to expect all arctic ice to melt by 2018; that same year, Al Gore predicted it would vanish by 2013. As recently as 2014, the French foreign minister claimed the planet had just "500 days" before climate catastrophe."
Five Decades of Wrong Predictions About the Environmental Apocalypse