There is a storm coming

[P@triot]

Had they known about political parties as they have evolved today, we can be fairly certain a safeguard would have been added to prevent the situation we know suffer under.

Amen to that! The founders believed that everyone would embrace liberty above all else. They couldn't foresee greedy, selfish progressives intentionally lying about what the U.S. Constitution says in a ploy to usurp it. Had they thought of that, the U.S. Constitution most certainly would have been a 2,000 page document like Obamacare to close any chance at attempting to create loopholes.

Oh well...the founders did a great job over all and showed tremendous vision. They had no way of knowing that anti-American devious, immoral assholes like you would some day exist and attempt to tear it all down. It's up to the rest of us now to protect what they built. And we will. That's why President Trump sits in the Oval Office as we speak.

 

[Divine Wind]

Left-wing ideology founded this nation.

Are you saying "Left-wing ideology" favors small government, individuality and the right of self-defense against people and governments alike? Do you think the Tree of Liberty should be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants?

 

[Wry Catcher]

You reap what you sow.

And you got trump. Perhaps you could have been better stewards of the republic

I find Trump seedy, but I didn't plant him. Metaphorically, you may have, you have enough manure to aid in his success.

You absolutely planted him. Then you watered and fertilized him to. That's what you were doing when you were pissing on the U.S. Constitution, supporting socialism, and supporting the oppression of the American people.

You've proved to be a crack pot, why continue to add on? Likely, a desperate need for attention.

 

[Avatar4321]

You reap what you sow.

And you got trump. Perhaps you could have been better stewards of the republic

I find Trump seedy, but I didn't plant him. Metaphorically, you may have, you have enough manure to aid in his success.

You did if you supported Obama and his policies. Trump is a reaction to those policies screwing the people for 8 years

 

[Dragonlady]

I'm noting that all over the board, the RWNJs are whining about what trump is doing but YOU VOTED FOR IT so shut up.

We don't "whine" my fragile little snowflake. We simply speak the truth and keep and going. The fact that the truth upsets you so much speaks volumes.

You wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and slapped you in the face. You just repeat whatever lies Donnie is tweeting, with links to supportive right wing blogs, or sites like Info Wars or Breitbart which is losing advertisers and readers daily.

And you hate on all of his "enemies", Immigrants, Muslims, the press and now the left.

Mindless devotion to any cause or leader is a truly dangerous thing. Devotion to a liar and a conman never ends well for the mark.

 

[RightyTighty]

Left-wing ideology founded this nation.

Are you saying "Left-wing ideology" favors small government, individuality and the right of self-defense against people and governments alike?

It did then, and liberalism still stands for that. That's not right-wind (they liked the King).

 

[P@triot]

You reap what you sow.

And you got trump. Perhaps you could have been better stewards of the republic

I find Trump seedy, but I didn't plant him. Metaphorically, you may have, you have enough manure to aid in his success.

You absolutely planted him. Then you watered and fertilized him to. That's what you were doing when you were pissing on the U.S. Constitution, supporting socialism, and supporting the oppression of the American people.

You've proved to be a crack pot, why continue to add on? Likely, a desperate need for attention.

In other words "damn...P@triot is 100% correct and I can't come up with a single decent response to dispute his accurate statement".

 

[RightyTighty]

feel free to point out my fascism if you can? Let's have some fun.

Certainly! You're left-wing so you hate the U.S. Constitution, you support government usurping their limitation of powers, you support the invasion of the U.S. of another nation (over 11 million), you resort to violence to silence freedom of speech and political opposition, and you support the confiscation of personal wealth and property.

Ah, no.

 

[RightyTighty]

All of those are wins! Sorry dumb ass, you do not get to redefine the definition of win just because you look like an asshole and you're desperate to change that.

We kicked the shit out of Saddam Hussein and drove him out of Kuwait. That was our objective - we overwhelmingly won the war. In Afghanistan, we kicked the shit out of the Taliban and turned the nation over to the people under a democracy. That was our objective - epic win. In Iraq, we captured Saddam Hussein and turned him over to the people for execution. Then we turned the nation over to the people under a democracy. That was our objective - another epic win.

Thanks for playing, snowflake. You may go now.

So, which of those nations are you planning to vacation in first? Do tell?

 

[P@triot]

Left-wing ideology founded this nation.

Are you saying "Left-wing ideology" favors small government, individuality and the right of self-defense against people and governments alike?

It did then, and liberalism still stands for that.

Nothing says "small government" like Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, SNAP, government housing, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Wild Horse and Burro Program (Huh?), FEMA, FDIC, Freddy Mac & Fannie Mae, Administration on Aging (AoA), Administration for Children and Families (ACF), Administration on Developmental Disabilities (ADD), Administration for Native Americans (ANA), Children's Bureau (CB), Family and Youth Services Bureau (FYSB), Head Start Bureau (HSB), Healthy Marriage Initiative (HMI), Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP), Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE), Office of Community Services Block Grant (OCS), Office of Family Assistance (OFA), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR).....

Yep...you're a real "champion" of small, limited government RightyTighty!

 

[RightyTighty]

Left-wing ideology founded this nation.

Are you saying "Left-wing ideology" favors small government, individuality and the right of self-defense against people and governments alike?

It did then, and liberalism still stands for that.

Nothing says "small government" like Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, SNAP, government housing, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Wild Horse and Burro Program (Huh?), FEMA, FDIC, Freddy Mac & Fannie Mae, Administration on Aging (AoA), Administration for Children and Families (ACF), Administration on Developmental Disabilities (ADD), Administration for Native Americans (ANA), Children's Bureau (CB), Family and Youth Services Bureau (FYSB), Head Start Bureau (HSB), Healthy Marriage Initiative (HMI), Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP), Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE), Office of Community Services Block Grant (OCS), Office of Family Assistance (OFA), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR).....

Yep...you're a real "champion" of small, limited government RightyTighty!

Obama started all those in just eight years? Remarkable.

 

[P@triot]

So, which of those nations are you planning to vacation in first? Do tell?

So since we've never been to war with Iran or Syria, you're vacation plans are all set for both of those nations - right? Please share with the class the dates for each.

By the way you poor, ignorant little primate - my travel plans are no measure of whether or not we won a war. I would never travel to England. I would never travel to Canada. I would never travel to Israel. I would never travel to Ireland. I would never travel to Japan. I would never travel to France. I would never travel to Germany.

I would never leave U.S. soil. I'm not an idiot like you. I would never voluntarily relinquish my constitutional rights.

 

[P@triot]

Left-wing ideology founded this nation.

Are you saying "Left-wing ideology" favors small government, individuality and the right of self-defense against people and governments alike?

It did then, and liberalism still stands for that.

Nothing says "small government" like Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, SNAP, government housing, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Wild Horse and Burro Program (Huh?), FEMA, FDIC, Freddy Mac & Fannie Mae, Administration on Aging (AoA), Administration for Children and Families (ACF), Administration on Developmental Disabilities (ADD), Administration for Native Americans (ANA), Children's Bureau (CB), Family and Youth Services Bureau (FYSB), Head Start Bureau (HSB), Healthy Marriage Initiative (HMI), Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP), Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE), Office of Community Services Block Grant (OCS), Office of Family Assistance (OFA), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR).....

Yep...you're a real "champion" of small, limited government RightyTighty!

Obama started all those in just eight years? Remarkable.

Ahahahahahaha! Look at the little liar run from his own words! Nobody said anything about Obama, snowflake. You said liberalism meant "small government" back then and today. Almost all of those departments/programs were created by Dumbocrats.

Thanks for playing, troll!

 

[RightyTighty]

So, which of those nations are you planning to vacation in first? Do tell?

So since we've never been to war with Iran or Syria, you're vacation plans are all set for both of those nations - right? Please share with the class the dates for each.

By the way you poor, ignorant little primate - my travel plans are no measure of whether or not we won a war. I would never travel to England. I would never travel to Canada. I would never travel to Israel. I would never travel to Ireland. I would never travel to Japan. I would never travel to France. I would never travel to Germany.

I would never leave U.S. soil. I'm not an idiot like you. I would never voluntarily relinquish my constitutional rights.

I'm very glad that you do not subject the world to your moronic ways. Please never leave the US. TY.

On the other hand, I've been four of those on your list. And so far I haven't gone to nations where we fought a war - and lost. But Vietnam is on the list. And North Korea if it opens.

 

[RightyTighty]

Left-wing ideology founded this nation.

Are you saying "Left-wing ideology" favors small government, individuality and the right of self-defense against people and governments alike?

It did then, and liberalism still stands for that.

Nothing says "small government" like Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, SNAP, government housing, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Wild Horse and Burro Program (Huh?), FEMA, FDIC, Freddy Mac & Fannie Mae, Administration on Aging (AoA), Administration for Children and Families (ACF), Administration on Developmental Disabilities (ADD), Administration for Native Americans (ANA), Children's Bureau (CB), Family and Youth Services Bureau (FYSB), Head Start Bureau (HSB), Healthy Marriage Initiative (HMI), Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP), Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE), Office of Community Services Block Grant (OCS), Office of Family Assistance (OFA), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR).....

Yep...you're a real "champion" of small, limited government RightyTighty!

Obama started all those in just eight years? Remarkable.

Ahahahahahaha! Look at the little liar run from his own words! Nobody said anything about Obama, snowflake. You said liberalism meant "small government" back then and today. Almost all of those departments/programs were created by Dumbocrats.

Thanks for playing, troll!

Democrats aren't liberals. Do try again.

And this is what gave you your rights -

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in “Common Sense” (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power."

 

[Divine Wind]

Left-wing ideology founded this nation.

Are you saying "Left-wing ideology" favors small government, individuality and the right of self-defense against people and governments alike?

It did then, and liberalism still stands for that. That's not right-wind (they liked the King).

Agreed it did then and also agreed it was the conservatives who were Tories. OTOH, I disagree Liberalism stands for it now. Now Liberalism stands for letting the Elites run the show because they know best.

Both political parties are highly authoritarian. Sure, like you and the RWers here, many will give lip-service to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness", but when it comes down to it, both want increased powers to say "No, you can't do that".

 

[Divine Wind]

Democrats aren't liberals. Do try again.

And this is what gave you your rights -

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in “Common Sense” (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power."

Agreed, but they love to call themselves liberals.

 

[RightyTighty]

Left-wing ideology founded this nation.

Are you saying "Left-wing ideology" favors small government, individuality and the right of self-defense against people and governments alike?

It did then, and liberalism still stands for that. That's not right-wind (they liked the King).

Agreed it did then and also agreed it was the conservatives who were Tories. OTOH, I disagree Liberalism stands for it now. Now Liberalism stands for letting the Elites run the show because they know best.

Both political parties are highly authoritarian. Sure, like you and the RWers here, many will give lip-service to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness", but when it comes down to it, both want increased powers to say "No, you can't do that".

The definition of liberalism has not changed. People just don't know what it means and misuse it.

 

[RightyTighty]

Democrats aren't liberals. Do try again.

And this is what gave you your rights -

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in “Common Sense” (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power."

Agreed, but they love to call themselves liberals.

They could call themselves Queen Victoria and it wouldn't matter. The names are different for a reason - they're different.

A neonate isn't an infant. They are at different stages of life.

 

[P@triot]

On the other hand, I've been four of those on your list. And so far I haven't gone to nations where we fought a war - and lost. But Vietnam is on the list. And North Korea if it opens.

I didn't ask that, snowflake. I asked what dates are you heading to Syria and Iran?