There is an active shooter at a Florida Highschool

I am going to speculate this is Islamic terrorism. Parkland Florida has a large Muslim population.

Yeah, you assclowns speculate that every single time and then when it usually turns out to be another white guy you crawl back into your holes not to be heard from.
Look at the facts. What else would you think? You are the assKlown here, and I am hardly in a hole here.

Gonna admit you were wrong now or are you crawling back into your hole?

Florida school shooting suspect linked to white supremacist group: ADL

He is a registered Democrat and here is his pic for you.

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LOL

You’re late to the party. Both of those have been debunked.

But he does wear a MAGA hat.
 
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He is a registered Democrat and here is his pic for you.

I don't think so..

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I don't really care what you think ;) All "White Supremacists" where T-Shirts filled wit the images of the Left's Greatest heroes.

Where?
 
I keep hearing people say that the shooters aren't crazy or they don't "seem" crazy, but there are different levels of crazy. Some people can hide their crazy quite well. Psychopaths have been described as being some of the most charming and nicest of people who fit in well with their communities. You don't have to be a blubbering tard to be crazy.
 
Yeah, you assclowns speculate that every single time and then when it usually turns out to be another white guy you crawl back into your holes not to be heard from.
Look at the facts. What else would you think? You are the assKlown here, and I am hardly in a hole here.

Gonna admit you were wrong now or are you crawling back into your hole?

Florida school shooting suspect linked to white supremacist group: ADL

He is a registered Democrat and here is his pic for you.

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Someone wrote "gullible" on your ceiling.

You poor kid, he's got all of your favorite on that T-Shirt he's wearing ;)

BREAKING: Don't Let The MAGA Hat Fool You, Hispanic Shooter 'Nicolas de Jesus Cruz' Was A Registered Democrat
Moron... his name is not Nicolas de Jesus Cruz.

Are ya feeling stupid yet? Or are ya too stupid to feel stupid?
 
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Where ? I don't see it and never had a gun pulled on me or was shot.
Lucky you. And the 17 dead in Florida? 50 odd dead in Las Vegas. 30 plus dead in Virginia Tech. I would list them all but I want to get to bed at a decent hour tonight...


You do know we have like 300 ,000,000
Plus people right? What does Australia have 24 million?

We have more damn illegal Mexicans in America then the entire population of Australia
 
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Where ? I don't see it and never had a gun pulled on me or was shot.
Lucky you. And the 17 dead in Florida? 50 odd dead in Las Vegas. 30 plus dead in Virginia Tech. I would list them all but I want to get to bed at a decent hour tonight...


And the muslim terrorist in Nice, France....used a rental truck and murdered 86 people.......in 5 minutes......for the rental fee on the truck... a lot less than the guns those shooters bought, and the ammo too.....
 
Look at the facts. What else would you think? You are the assKlown here, and I am hardly in a hole here.

Gonna admit you were wrong now or are you crawling back into your hole?

Florida school shooting suspect linked to white supremacist group: ADL

He is a registered Democrat and here is his pic for you.

View attachment 176942

Someone wrote "gullible" on your ceiling.

You poor kid, he's got all of your favorite on that T-Shirt he's wearing ;)

BREAKING: Don't Let The MAGA Hat Fool You, Hispanic Shooter 'Nicolas de Jesus Cruz' Was A Registered Democrat
Moron... his name is not Nicolas de Jesus Cruz.

Are ya feeling stupid yet? Or are ya too stupid to feel stupid?

I suggest you actually research it kid. Begone. ;)

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    Law-enforcement sources told The Miami Herald that they’ve identified the shooter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, as 19-year-old ...
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    Nicolas de Jesus Cruz identified as Marjory Stoneman Douglas High shooter. How a former student with prior disciplinary issues took down his former school.
 
Yeah, you assclowns speculate that every single time and then when it usually turns out to be another white guy you crawl back into your holes not to be heard from.
Look at the facts. What else would you think? You are the assKlown here, and I am hardly in a hole here.

Gonna admit you were wrong now or are you crawling back into your hole?

Florida school shooting suspect linked to white supremacist group: ADL

He is a registered Democrat and here is his pic for you.

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That isn't him, stupid. That pic has already been debunked and there has been no proof he is a registered Democrat.

Prove it twit. Your opinion is worth shit.
Prove it??

Your own link proves it!


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Feeling stupid yet?
 
The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee.


Alleged Parkland Shooter Nikolas Cruz Was a Member of White Supremacist Group


An update for you...

Local Police: ‘No Known Ties’ Between Shooting Suspect And White Nationalist Group
he is one of yours


Nope......read the link.......more investigation is needed.......
 
Should has EVERYTHING to do with it.

This is AMERICA, (insert your preferred Deity here) Damn it!!

We should be capable of maintaining an effective government that truly protects it's citizens and their freedoms.

The fact that we don't, especially right now, I lay at the feet of a congress controlled by Gerrymander-safe republicans who're unwilling or unable to discuss the issues for fear of losing the ca$h that keeps the machine greased.

"Should" does not mean "Can" ... Captain Obvious.

The government isn't doing what they are required to do ... Much less what they should do.
You are stupid if you think we should grant them the power to do more of what they are already failing at.

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Part of it is reducing powers... Like the power that congress has to tax you differently from the way I'm taxed...

Part of it is removing from all state legislatures the power to redraw congressional districts in ways that favor one political party over another.

A lot of it will be educating people to understand that government is a tool, and not a slimy monster to be loathed from a distance.


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You failed every American history course you ever took, didn't you? The term "Gerry-mander" has been around since 1812. No one has gotten rid of the practice yet. I'll bet you didn't know it was named after a Vice President!

Who is going to draw the districts? Try looking in the Constitution for a clue.

I hate ignorant off-the-wall comments like yours. They reek of a distinct lack of education.
 
Doctor Grump likes to pretend everyone lives a small population homogeneous country with no international borders like he does. I mean, what works in Mayberry RFD will work everywhere, right?

He's not interested at all in learning anything about the United States and how it's different than New Zealand. Just lecturing us how they do it and assuming it would work here


Posted by a friend of mine in Sydney, who is a New Yorker. He wondered in his post that maybe the reason wasn't guns, maybe it was the water....

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That tells us what?




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Australian gun crime is going up....our gun crime is going down......they have almost had numerous mass public shootings....the only thing that kept them from being mass public shootings...the shooter chose not to shoot more people, or he was a bad shot.........

It is a lie that Australian gun control stopped their mass shootings, or their gun crime......don't believe it...

Keep in mind...whenever an anti gunner claims Australian gun laws stopped their mass public shootings...ask them how their gun laws stopped these shootings from becoming mass public shootings...since the shooter had guns in a public place and was shooting people........

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
  • 16 January 1998 to 15 June 2009 – Melbourne gangland killings – A series of 35 murders of crime figures and their associates that began with the slaying of Alphonse Gangitano in his home, most likely by Jason Moran, the latest victim being Des Moran who was murdered in Ascot Vale on 15 June 2009.
  • 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria at La Trobe university in Melbourne, Victoria, armed with a 38-calibre revolver handgun and opened fire, killing cafeteria manager Leon Capraro and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
21st century[edit]
2000s[edit]

  • 13 March 2000 – Millewa State Forest Murders – Barbara and Stephen Brooks and Stacie Willoughby were found dead, all three having been shot execution style and left in the forest.[62][63]
  • 16 July 2001 – Peter James Knight, an anti-abortion activist, walked into an abortion clinic in East Melbourne armed with a rifle. Knight shot dead security guard Stephen Gordon Rogers and was later overpowered by staff in the abortion clinic. After his arrest, Knight was charged and convicted of murder. He was sentenced to life in prison.
  • 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
  • 14 October 2002 – Dr. Margret Tobin, the South Australian head of Mental Health Services, was shot dead by Jean Eric Gassy as she walked out of a lift in her office building.
  • 21 October 2002 – Monash University shootingHuan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
  • 25 October 2003 – Greenacre double murder – A man and a woman are shot dead in a house in the suburb of Greenacre, Sydney which was the result of a feud between two Middle Eastern crime families. Twenty-four-year-old Ziad Abdulrazak was shot 10 times in the chest and head and 22-year-old Mervat Hamka was shot twice in the neck while she slept in her bedroom. Up to 100 shots were fired into the house by four men who were later arrested and convicted of the murders.
  • 18 February 2006 – Cardross Hit and Run – Thomas Graham Towle crashed his car at high speed into a group of 13 teenagers, killing six and injuring seven near the town ofCardross, Victoria.[73]
  • 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[75]

An expidited list.....

Here is a list of shootings in Australia...notice, they are all after they banned and confiscated guns...tell me....how did Australian gun laws stop these from becoming mass shootings?

I will quote a few....read the rest....

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia

  • 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
If he had decided to keep shooting...would Australian gun laws have kept this from being a mass shooting?
Tell me...this doesn't count as a mass shooting...only because more of the victims didn't die...7 people shot......did Australian gun laws stop it from being a mass shooting?

  • 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
Another one.....this shooter couldn't clear his rifle...so he only killed 2...the new standard for a mass shooting incident is 3 dead victims...so how did Australian gun laws keep this from being a mass shooting...rather than just dumb luck....?
And had this guy decided to keep shooting.....would Australian gun laws have stopped him? And kept this from being a mass shooting?

  • 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
Can you see that CNN's article is just wrong....that it implies that Australian gun control has ended their mass shootings...and that that is a lie?

And more....


  • 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
this guy actually went into a mall......with a gun......after they banned and confiscated them...so tell me how this doesn't show that the CNN article is a lie....
  • 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
How did Australian gun control laws keep this shooting from being a muslim terrorist mass shooting? An immigrant to Australia got a gun in a country where they banned and confiscated them and now claim their gun control laws have stopped mass shootings...

  • 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
And how did Australian gun control keep this shooting from being a mass shooting?

  • 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
And had this kid walked into his school.....as a muslim immigrant and simply shot 3 kids....it would have been an act of muslim terrorism and a mass shooting ....again, luck saved Australia, not their gun control laws...
  • And how did Australian gun laws keep these muslim teenager from going to a school with this gun and shooting a bunch of students?

    Sydney police HQ shooting linked to terrorism: police commissioner

    The actions of the 15-year-old gunman who shot dead a New South Wales police civilian employee were an act of terrorism, police say.

    The radicalised youth of Middle Eastern background has been named as Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad.

    He killed the police employee, Curtis Cheng, as he was leaving police headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm yesterday.

    The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.

You really need to give this wall of text marathon a freaking rest!

No one gives a shit about the UK or Australia.
 
Yeah, you assclowns speculate that every single time and then when it usually turns out to be another white guy you crawl back into your holes not to be heard from.
Look at the facts. What else would you think? You are the assKlown here, and I am hardly in a hole here.

Gonna admit you were wrong now or are you crawling back into your hole?

Florida school shooting suspect linked to white supremacist group: ADL

He is a registered Democrat and here is his pic for you.

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That isn't him, stupid. That pic has already been debunked and there has been no proof he is a registered Democrat.

Poor TAZ, he's still wearing a T-shirt with your favorite historical characters.
No, he’s not, ya flamin’ imbecile.

This guy....

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... is not this guy ...

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Feeling stupid... YET??

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Left is going to use this shooting (just like any other) to push for anti-gun narrative. Before they do, they should remember that they are the ones who radicalized people like this.

When all the smoke clears, I'm betting that the shooter is once again found to have ties with and or alliances with the democratic party, Obama supporter, or his parents are. These people never turn out to be moral, upstanding, conservatives. As to other countries, what they don't have is American Common Core Public Schools turning out violent kids looking to come back to "get even" with all of their dysfunctional teachers and classmates who put this need to murder in their minds.

WHEN will schools finally be held accountable for not protecting these kids by locking the doors, having metal detectors and having teachers and guards throughout the school who are well-armed and well-trained with firearms? The problem is obviously NOT THE GUNS, but our unfamiliarity with them anymore by a liberal culture trying to remove them from people's lives. WE have created a generation of defenseless people who know nothing but how to hide in terror under a desk.
Oh, get serious. This kid didn't go on a shooting rampage because he supported Obama or because he hated Trump, or he was seeking 47 virgins in paradise.

Never said he did. All bullshit leftist data posted by others aside, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS has had a liberal influence in the family. Not one of them was from a strong, moral, conservative upbringing. If there are a few white supremacists out there committing crimes, their numbers pale in comparison and hardly make the news. There is something about liberal upbringing that makes people crazy. Normal people don't go out doing this stuff. Liberals are the Antifa who run around in black masks beating up women and knocking down statues of dead soldiers and traveling the country looking for fights to start, tearing up campuses, breaking windows, stomping police cars, rioting in cities, trying to put men in girls bathrooms, attacking their own country and going berserk because some sensible person comes to their campus to give some different views to hear and think about. Liberals are crazy. Liberals are intolerant. They are mental defects. Liberals are liars who punish kids for playing cops and robbers now and we didn't have this national problem until liberals got a hold of controlling our media and our schools. Look at liberals now: When GW Bush was in, they went berserk with vitriol at the man! Now that another non-Leftist is in the WH, they deny he is even President, try to block his administration as if it were Satan incarnate and are trying to get the man impeached on any phony charge they can dream up in their little minds. Good God, he's just a businessman who cared enough to put his life aside to try to help fix the country.

Children are perceptive. They have an intuition about what's bull and what is not. We are forcing kids into these insane asylums we call "schools" now where everyday the system sets up a conflict of irrational restrictions, rules and unfair punishments, and it builds up in these kids and they internalize it until finally, one of them snaps, gets a hold of a gun somewhere, and wants nothing more than to come back and blow away the very people who have tormented their lives.

Guns are not the problem and no gun law in the world will ever solve anything. There are MILLIONS of guns everywhere and people are not going to turn them in and the people will not stand for having their Constitution turned on its head and even if you turn this country into a police state where every home is broken down and searched and every gun is confiscated by force, a solution far worse than the problems sought solved, people will still hide a lot of the guns and all of the criminals will still have guns and millions more guns will be snuck back into the country and all of the elite will still have theirs and all you will do is escalate this country into a police state where everyone fears and mistrusts their neighbor, crime will soar and kids will still find a new way of taking it out on those they hate.

If you want to solve the school problem, you NEED TO CHANGE THE SCHOOLS and you need to change society to get all of this mind numbing PC bullshit out of our culture. We never had this problem until liberalism ran rampant to where it cripples every industry and aspect of our country now, to where states and cities now even fight to oppose their own government to oppose enforcing laws on rounding up CRIMINALS from other countries.

If you want to see why these kids are shooting up schools, if you are a liberal, go put down your computer for a minute right now, walk to the nearest mirror and LOOK RIGHT AT THE PROBLEM.
It is not about liberal upbringing vs. conservative upbringing. It's not a political or right/left thing. You aren't wrong that a stable family is pretty important to kids, but you're totally wrong to politicize who is "right" and who is "wrong."


No...actually, it is about fathers in the homes......single mothers, especially young teenage mothers.......notice...you had that dynamic in Sandy Hook, Vegas, and this one.......

His mother was NOT a teenager! He grew up with older adoptive parents.

WTF does Vegas have to do with it? The guy was my age and I am older than dirt!
 
When all the smoke clears, I'm betting that the shooter is once again found to have ties with and or alliances with the democratic party, Obama supporter, or his parents are. These people never turn out to be moral, upstanding, conservatives. As to other countries, what they don't have is American Common Core Public Schools turning out violent kids looking to come back to "get even" with all of their dysfunctional teachers and classmates who put this need to murder in their minds.

WHEN will schools finally be held accountable for not protecting these kids by locking the doors, having metal detectors and having teachers and guards throughout the school who are well-armed and well-trained with firearms? The problem is obviously NOT THE GUNS, but our unfamiliarity with them anymore by a liberal culture trying to remove them from people's lives. WE have created a generation of defenseless people who know nothing but how to hide in terror under a desk.
Oh, get serious. This kid didn't go on a shooting rampage because he supported Obama or because he hated Trump, or he was seeking 47 virgins in paradise.

Never said he did. All bullshit leftist data posted by others aside, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS has had a liberal influence in the family. Not one of them was from a strong, moral, conservative upbringing. If there are a few white supremacists out there committing crimes, their numbers pale in comparison and hardly make the news. There is something about liberal upbringing that makes people crazy. Normal people don't go out doing this stuff. Liberals are the Antifa who run around in black masks beating up women and knocking down statues of dead soldiers and traveling the country looking for fights to start, tearing up campuses, breaking windows, stomping police cars, rioting in cities, trying to put men in girls bathrooms, attacking their own country and going berserk because some sensible person comes to their campus to give some different views to hear and think about. Liberals are crazy. Liberals are intolerant. They are mental defects. Liberals are liars who punish kids for playing cops and robbers now and we didn't have this national problem until liberals got a hold of controlling our media and our schools. Look at liberals now: When GW Bush was in, they went berserk with vitriol at the man! Now that another non-Leftist is in the WH, they deny he is even President, try to block his administration as if it were Satan incarnate and are trying to get the man impeached on any phony charge they can dream up in their little minds. Good God, he's just a businessman who cared enough to put his life aside to try to help fix the country.

Children are perceptive. They have an intuition about what's bull and what is not. We are forcing kids into these insane asylums we call "schools" now where everyday the system sets up a conflict of irrational restrictions, rules and unfair punishments, and it builds up in these kids and they internalize it until finally, one of them snaps, gets a hold of a gun somewhere, and wants nothing more than to come back and blow away the very people who have tormented their lives.

Guns are not the problem and no gun law in the world will ever solve anything. There are MILLIONS of guns everywhere and people are not going to turn them in and the people will not stand for having their Constitution turned on its head and even if you turn this country into a police state where every home is broken down and searched and every gun is confiscated by force, a solution far worse than the problems sought solved, people will still hide a lot of the guns and all of the criminals will still have guns and millions more guns will be snuck back into the country and all of the elite will still have theirs and all you will do is escalate this country into a police state where everyone fears and mistrusts their neighbor, crime will soar and kids will still find a new way of taking it out on those they hate.

If you want to solve the school problem, you NEED TO CHANGE THE SCHOOLS and you need to change society to get all of this mind numbing PC bullshit out of our culture. We never had this problem until liberalism ran rampant to where it cripples every industry and aspect of our country now, to where states and cities now even fight to oppose their own government to oppose enforcing laws on rounding up CRIMINALS from other countries.

If you want to see why these kids are shooting up schools, if you are a liberal, go put down your computer for a minute right now, walk to the nearest mirror and LOOK RIGHT AT THE PROBLEM.
It is not about liberal upbringing vs. conservative upbringing. It's not a political or right/left thing. You aren't wrong that a stable family is pretty important to kids, but you're totally wrong to politicize who is "right" and who is "wrong."


No...actually, it is about fathers in the homes......single mothers, especially young teenage mothers.......notice...you had that dynamic in Sandy Hook, Vegas, and this one.......

His mother was NOT a teenager! He grew up with older adoptive parents.

WTF does Vegas have to do with it? The guy was my age and I am older than dirt!


The mother was on her own when the husband died.....he was 6 when that happened....

The Vegas shooter, another single mother.....
 
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He is a registered Democrat and here is his pic for you.

I don't think so..

6SZ2F6EG5RG75MYO35JLT5HDFU.jpg

I don't really care what you think ;) All "White Supremacists" where T-Shirts filled wit the images of the Left's Greatest heroes.

Where?

Oh sue me....I used the wrong word.

You might try reading your crap before posting so you don't appear to be an ignorant POS.

Are you "wit" me on that?
 

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