There is an active shooter at a Florida Highschool

I'm just waiting to hear that he's DACA kid.


If that were to be the case....the news rooms across the country would be busy all night scrubbing all of their video and coverage of this shooting........

Left is going to use this shooting (just like any other) to push for anti-gun narrative. Before they do, they should remember that they are the ones who radicalized people like this.

When all the smoke clears, I'm betting that the shooter is once again found to have ties with and or alliances with the democratic party, Obama supporter, or his parents are. These people never turn out to be moral, upstanding, conservatives. As to other countries, what they don't have is American Common Core Public Schools turning out violent kids looking to come back to "get even" with all of their dysfunctional teachers and classmates who put this need to murder in their minds.

WHEN will schools finally be held accountable for not protecting these kids by locking the doors, having metal detectors and having teachers and guards throughout the school who are well-armed and well-trained with firearms? The problem is obviously NOT THE GUNS, but our unfamiliarity with them anymore by a liberal culture trying to remove them from people's lives. WE have created a generation of defenseless people who know nothing but how to hide in terror under a desk.
Oh, get serious. This kid didn't go on a shooting rampage because he supported Obama or because he hated Trump, or he was seeking 47 virgins in paradise.

Never said he did. All bullshit leftist data posted by others aside, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS has had a liberal influence in the family. Not one of them was from a strong, moral, conservative upbringing. If there are a few white supremacists out there committing crimes, their numbers pale in comparison and hardly make the news. There is something about liberal upbringing that makes people crazy. Normal people don't go out doing this stuff. Liberals are the Antifa who run around in black masks beating up women and knocking down statues of dead soldiers and traveling the country looking for fights to start, tearing up campuses, breaking windows, stomping police cars, rioting in cities, trying to put men in girls bathrooms, attacking their own country and going berserk because some sensible person comes to their campus to give some different views to hear and think about. Liberals are crazy. Liberals are intolerant. They are mental defects. Liberals are liars who punish kids for playing cops and robbers now and we didn't have this national problem until liberals got a hold of controlling our media and our schools. Look at liberals now: When GW Bush was in, they went berserk with vitriol at the man! Now that another non-Leftist is in the WH, they deny he is even President, try to block his administration as if it were Satan incarnate and are trying to get the man impeached on any phony charge they can dream up in their little minds. Good God, he's just a businessman who cared enough to put his life aside to try to help fix the country.

Children are perceptive. They have an intuition about what's bull and what is not. We are forcing kids into these insane asylums we call "schools" now where everyday the system sets up a conflict of irrational restrictions, rules and unfair punishments, and it builds up in these kids and they internalize it until finally, one of them snaps, gets a hold of a gun somewhere, and wants nothing more than to come back and blow away the very people who have tormented their lives.

Guns are not the problem and no gun law in the world will ever solve anything. There are MILLIONS of guns everywhere and people are not going to turn them in and the people will not stand for having their Constitution turned on its head and even if you turn this country into a police state where every home is broken down and searched and every gun is confiscated by force, a solution far worse than the problems sought solved, people will still hide a lot of the guns and all of the criminals will still have guns and millions more guns will be snuck back into the country and all of the elite will still have theirs and all you will do is escalate this country into a police state where everyone fears and mistrusts their neighbor, crime will soar and kids will still find a new way of taking it out on those they hate.

If you want to solve the school problem, you NEED TO CHANGE THE SCHOOLS and you need to change society to get all of this mind numbing PC bullshit out of our culture. We never had this problem until liberalism ran rampant to where it cripples every industry and aspect of our country now, to where states and cities now even fight to oppose their own government to oppose enforcing laws on rounding up CRIMINALS from other countries.

If you want to see why these kids are shooting up schools, if you are a liberal, go put down your computer for a minute right now, walk to the nearest mirror and LOOK RIGHT AT THE PROBLEM.
So the shooter at Sandy Hook, Adam Lanza was under liberal influence of his family. Maybe you should do a little research before putting your foot in your mouth.

Adam's parents, Peter and Nancy Lanza seemed to be a typical middle class couple living in Newtown, Conn in a middle class neighborhood, Sandy Hook. Money from Nancy's relatives provide enough money that there was no need for her to work. Peter taught school and the couple lived pretty unremarkable lives. Both Peter, Nancy, and Adam loved guns and had quite an arena which included assault style rifles and and hand guns. Police discovered NRA certificates in Nancy and Adam's name. Nancy had commented that, "she doesn't believe gun laws should be changed. "It's the person who does the killing, not the gun," she also said. "I thank God every day that my kids have faith and know right from wrong. Adam went to parochial school and then was home schooled by Nancy.

Exactly what liberal influence of his family do you think Adam was under, his family love of guns, the NRA, Homeschooling, or their religious beliefs. From all the evidence it seems these people were definitely conservative not liberal.

Although you seem to have very strong political bias, I think if you actually research school shootings, you would see that the causes have very little to do the politics of parents. Some of the shooters families would certain qualify as conservatives and some are certainly liberal. The main factor in most all of these school shootings is the serious mental disorders of the shooters and inability of parents and society to deal with it.
 
If that were to be the case....the news rooms across the country would be busy all night scrubbing all of their video and coverage of this shooting........

Left is going to use this shooting (just like any other) to push for anti-gun narrative. Before they do, they should remember that they are the ones who radicalized people like this.

When all the smoke clears, I'm betting that the shooter is once again found to have ties with and or alliances with the democratic party, Obama supporter, or his parents are. These people never turn out to be moral, upstanding, conservatives. As to other countries, what they don't have is American Common Core Public Schools turning out violent kids looking to come back to "get even" with all of their dysfunctional teachers and classmates who put this need to murder in their minds.

WHEN will schools finally be held accountable for not protecting these kids by locking the doors, having metal detectors and having teachers and guards throughout the school who are well-armed and well-trained with firearms? The problem is obviously NOT THE GUNS, but our unfamiliarity with them anymore by a liberal culture trying to remove them from people's lives. WE have created a generation of defenseless people who know nothing but how to hide in terror under a desk.
Oh, get serious. This kid didn't go on a shooting rampage because he supported Obama or because he hated Trump, or he was seeking 47 virgins in paradise.

Never said he did. All bullshit leftist data posted by others aside, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS has had a liberal influence in the family. Not one of them was from a strong, moral, conservative upbringing. If there are a few white supremacists out there committing crimes, their numbers pale in comparison and hardly make the news. There is something about liberal upbringing that makes people crazy. Normal people don't go out doing this stuff. Liberals are the Antifa who run around in black masks beating up women and knocking down statues of dead soldiers and traveling the country looking for fights to start, tearing up campuses, breaking windows, stomping police cars, rioting in cities, trying to put men in girls bathrooms, attacking their own country and going berserk because some sensible person comes to their campus to give some different views to hear and think about. Liberals are crazy. Liberals are intolerant. They are mental defects. Liberals are liars who punish kids for playing cops and robbers now and we didn't have this national problem until liberals got a hold of controlling our media and our schools. Look at liberals now: When GW Bush was in, they went berserk with vitriol at the man! Now that another non-Leftist is in the WH, they deny he is even President, try to block his administration as if it were Satan incarnate and are trying to get the man impeached on any phony charge they can dream up in their little minds. Good God, he's just a businessman who cared enough to put his life aside to try to help fix the country.

Children are perceptive. They have an intuition about what's bull and what is not. We are forcing kids into these insane asylums we call "schools" now where everyday the system sets up a conflict of irrational restrictions, rules and unfair punishments, and it builds up in these kids and they internalize it until finally, one of them snaps, gets a hold of a gun somewhere, and wants nothing more than to come back and blow away the very people who have tormented their lives.

Guns are not the problem and no gun law in the world will ever solve anything. There are MILLIONS of guns everywhere and people are not going to turn them in and the people will not stand for having their Constitution turned on its head and even if you turn this country into a police state where every home is broken down and searched and every gun is confiscated by force, a solution far worse than the problems sought solved, people will still hide a lot of the guns and all of the criminals will still have guns and millions more guns will be snuck back into the country and all of the elite will still have theirs and all you will do is escalate this country into a police state where everyone fears and mistrusts their neighbor, crime will soar and kids will still find a new way of taking it out on those they hate.

If you want to solve the school problem, you NEED TO CHANGE THE SCHOOLS and you need to change society to get all of this mind numbing PC bullshit out of our culture. We never had this problem until liberalism ran rampant to where it cripples every industry and aspect of our country now, to where states and cities now even fight to oppose their own government to oppose enforcing laws on rounding up CRIMINALS from other countries.

If you want to see why these kids are shooting up schools, if you are a liberal, go put down your computer for a minute right now, walk to the nearest mirror and LOOK RIGHT AT THE PROBLEM.
So the shooter at Sandy Hook, Adam Lanza was under liberal influence of his family. Maybe you should do a little research before putting your foot in your mouth.

Adam's parents, Peter and Nancy Lanza seemed to be a typical middle class couple living in Newtown, Conn in a middle class neighborhood, Sandy Hook. Money from Nancy's relatives provide enough money that there was no need for her to work. Peter taught school and the couple lived pretty unremarkable lives. Both Peter, Nancy, and Adam loved guns and had quite an arena which included assault style rifles and and hand guns. Police discovered NRA certificates in Nancy and Adam's name. Nancy had commented that, "she doesn't believe gun laws should be changed. "It's the person who does the killing, not the gun," she also said. "I thank God every day that my kids have faith and know right from wrong. Adam went to parochial school and then was home schooled by Nancy.

Exactly what liberal influence of his family do you think Adam was under, his family love of guns, the NRA, Homeschooling, or their religious beliefs. From all the evidence it seems these people were definitely conservative not liberal.

Although you seem to have very strong political bias, I think if you actually research school shootings, you would see that the causes have very little to do the politics of parents. Some of the shooters families would certain qualify as conservatives and some are certainly liberal. The main factor in most all of these school shootings is the serious mental disorders of the shooters and inability of parents and society to deal with it.


The lack of fathers......single mothers trying to raise mentally disturbed young males....
 
Oh, get serious. This kid didn't go on a shooting rampage because he supported Obama or because he hated Trump, or he was seeking 47 virgins in paradise.

Never said he did. All bullshit leftist data posted by others aside, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS has had a liberal influence in the family. Not one of them was from a strong, moral, conservative upbringing. If there are a few white supremacists out there committing crimes, their numbers pale in comparison and hardly make the news. There is something about liberal upbringing that makes people crazy. Normal people don't go out doing this stuff. Liberals are the Antifa who run around in black masks beating up women and knocking down statues of dead soldiers and traveling the country looking for fights to start, tearing up campuses, breaking windows, stomping police cars, rioting in cities, trying to put men in girls bathrooms, attacking their own country and going berserk because some sensible person comes to their campus to give some different views to hear and think about. Liberals are crazy. Liberals are intolerant. They are mental defects. Liberals are liars who punish kids for playing cops and robbers now and we didn't have this national problem until liberals got a hold of controlling our media and our schools. Look at liberals now: When GW Bush was in, they went berserk with vitriol at the man! Now that another non-Leftist is in the WH, they deny he is even President, try to block his administration as if it were Satan incarnate and are trying to get the man impeached on any phony charge they can dream up in their little minds. Good God, he's just a businessman who cared enough to put his life aside to try to help fix the country.

Children are perceptive. They have an intuition about what's bull and what is not. We are forcing kids into these insane asylums we call "schools" now where everyday the system sets up a conflict of irrational restrictions, rules and unfair punishments, and it builds up in these kids and they internalize it until finally, one of them snaps, gets a hold of a gun somewhere, and wants nothing more than to come back and blow away the very people who have tormented their lives.

Guns are not the problem and no gun law in the world will ever solve anything. There are MILLIONS of guns everywhere and people are not going to turn them in and the people will not stand for having their Constitution turned on its head and even if you turn this country into a police state where every home is broken down and searched and every gun is confiscated by force, a solution far worse than the problems sought solved, people will still hide a lot of the guns and all of the criminals will still have guns and millions more guns will be snuck back into the country and all of the elite will still have theirs and all you will do is escalate this country into a police state where everyone fears and mistrusts their neighbor, crime will soar and kids will still find a new way of taking it out on those they hate.

If you want to solve the school problem, you NEED TO CHANGE THE SCHOOLS and you need to change society to get all of this mind numbing PC bullshit out of our culture. We never had this problem until liberalism ran rampant to where it cripples every industry and aspect of our country now, to where states and cities now even fight to oppose their own government to oppose enforcing laws on rounding up CRIMINALS from other countries.

If you want to see why these kids are shooting up schools, if you are a liberal, go put down your computer for a minute right now, walk to the nearest mirror and LOOK RIGHT AT THE PROBLEM.
It is not about liberal upbringing vs. conservative upbringing. It's not a political or right/left thing. You aren't wrong that a stable family is pretty important to kids, but you're totally wrong to politicize who is "right" and who is "wrong."


No...actually, it is about fathers in the homes......single mothers, especially young teenage mothers.......notice...you had that dynamic in Sandy Hook, Vegas, and this one.......

His mother was NOT a teenager! He grew up with older adoptive parents.

WTF does Vegas have to do with it? The guy was my age and I am older than dirt!


The mother was on her own when the husband died.....he was 6 when that happened....

The Vegas shooter, another single mother.....

She was a single mother because her husband was a bank robber and the shooter was 7 when his father was arrested! It's not like he ran out on the family!
 
Never said he did. All bullshit leftist data posted by others aside, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS has had a liberal influence in the family. Not one of them was from a strong, moral, conservative upbringing. If there are a few white supremacists out there committing crimes, their numbers pale in comparison and hardly make the news. There is something about liberal upbringing that makes people crazy. Normal people don't go out doing this stuff. Liberals are the Antifa who run around in black masks beating up women and knocking down statues of dead soldiers and traveling the country looking for fights to start, tearing up campuses, breaking windows, stomping police cars, rioting in cities, trying to put men in girls bathrooms, attacking their own country and going berserk because some sensible person comes to their campus to give some different views to hear and think about. Liberals are crazy. Liberals are intolerant. They are mental defects. Liberals are liars who punish kids for playing cops and robbers now and we didn't have this national problem until liberals got a hold of controlling our media and our schools. Look at liberals now: When GW Bush was in, they went berserk with vitriol at the man! Now that another non-Leftist is in the WH, they deny he is even President, try to block his administration as if it were Satan incarnate and are trying to get the man impeached on any phony charge they can dream up in their little minds. Good God, he's just a businessman who cared enough to put his life aside to try to help fix the country.

Children are perceptive. They have an intuition about what's bull and what is not. We are forcing kids into these insane asylums we call "schools" now where everyday the system sets up a conflict of irrational restrictions, rules and unfair punishments, and it builds up in these kids and they internalize it until finally, one of them snaps, gets a hold of a gun somewhere, and wants nothing more than to come back and blow away the very people who have tormented their lives.

Guns are not the problem and no gun law in the world will ever solve anything. There are MILLIONS of guns everywhere and people are not going to turn them in and the people will not stand for having their Constitution turned on its head and even if you turn this country into a police state where every home is broken down and searched and every gun is confiscated by force, a solution far worse than the problems sought solved, people will still hide a lot of the guns and all of the criminals will still have guns and millions more guns will be snuck back into the country and all of the elite will still have theirs and all you will do is escalate this country into a police state where everyone fears and mistrusts their neighbor, crime will soar and kids will still find a new way of taking it out on those they hate.

If you want to solve the school problem, you NEED TO CHANGE THE SCHOOLS and you need to change society to get all of this mind numbing PC bullshit out of our culture. We never had this problem until liberalism ran rampant to where it cripples every industry and aspect of our country now, to where states and cities now even fight to oppose their own government to oppose enforcing laws on rounding up CRIMINALS from other countries.

If you want to see why these kids are shooting up schools, if you are a liberal, go put down your computer for a minute right now, walk to the nearest mirror and LOOK RIGHT AT THE PROBLEM.
It is not about liberal upbringing vs. conservative upbringing. It's not a political or right/left thing. You aren't wrong that a stable family is pretty important to kids, but you're totally wrong to politicize who is "right" and who is "wrong."


No...actually, it is about fathers in the homes......single mothers, especially young teenage mothers.......notice...you had that dynamic in Sandy Hook, Vegas, and this one.......

His mother was NOT a teenager! He grew up with older adoptive parents.

WTF does Vegas have to do with it? The guy was my age and I am older than dirt!


The mother was on her own when the husband died.....he was 6 when that happened....

The Vegas shooter, another single mother.....

She was a single mother because her husband was a bank robber and the shooter was 7 when he was arrested! It's not like he ran out on the family!


He didn't have to run out on the family....he wasn't there, she was a single mother raising young males......
 
There are more kids raised by single parents who are NOT mass shooters. :rolleyes: These are CRAZY people. You cannot rationalize them or their thoughts or actions. That is what makes them crazy and NOT rational!
 
Doctor Grump likes to pretend everyone lives a small population homogeneous country with no international borders like he does. I mean, what works in Mayberry RFD will work everywhere, right?

He's not interested at all in learning anything about the United States and how it's different than New Zealand. Just lecturing us how they do it and assuming it would work here


Posted by a friend of mine in Sydney, who is a New Yorker. He wondered in his post that maybe the reason wasn't guns, maybe it was the water....

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WTF do you people care?

Trust me no one here gives a flying or any other kind of fuck about Australia
 
People always want to rationalize and then blame. Well, sometimes it is just a tragic set of circumstances and you have to accept that there is really nobody else to blame except the killer.
 
It is not about liberal upbringing vs. conservative upbringing. It's not a political or right/left thing. You aren't wrong that a stable family is pretty important to kids, but you're totally wrong to politicize who is "right" and who is "wrong."


No...actually, it is about fathers in the homes......single mothers, especially young teenage mothers.......notice...you had that dynamic in Sandy Hook, Vegas, and this one.......

His mother was NOT a teenager! He grew up with older adoptive parents.

WTF does Vegas have to do with it? The guy was my age and I am older than dirt!


The mother was on her own when the husband died.....he was 6 when that happened....

The Vegas shooter, another single mother.....

She was a single mother because her husband was a bank robber and the shooter was 7 when he was arrested! It's not like he ran out on the family!


He didn't have to run out on the family....he wasn't there, she was a single mother raising young males......

That is not the problem. Lots of single mothers raise fine kids. How do you explain Ben Carson? How many people did he shoot and kill?

Your overly simplistic explanation has no basis in reality. Anecdotal evidence is not data.

When my daughter was in middle school, a classmate from an upper class neighborhood with two fine and upstanding parents murdered a neighbor child and stuffed her body under a waterbed in his room. How did that happen? My daughter said he was just like any other kid, but he took a baseball bat and bashed a little girl's head in!
 
The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee.


Alleged Parkland Shooter Nikolas Cruz Was a Member of White Supremacist Group


An update for you...

Local Police: ‘No Known Ties’ Between Shooting Suspect And White Nationalist Group


he is one of yours


Nope......read the link.......more investigation is needed.......


Leader of White Supremacist Group Claims Florida School Shooting Suspect Was a Member
Cruz was associated with ROF and participated in at least one training in the Tallahassee area, carpooling up with other white supremacists from south Florida. The Republic of Florida describes itself as a “white civil rights organization fighting for white identitarian politics” that seeks to create a “white ethnostate” in Florida,

https://splinternews.com/leader-of-...tter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-02-15
 
Of course there is. There are more and more gun laws, and more and more shooters with no one shooting back.

So seriously, if your kids were in that school, you'd be glued to the live TV reporting saying, I hope no one else has a gun, I hope no one else has a gun, I hope no one else has a gun, I hope no one else has a gun ...

I'd be saying, I hope someone wastes the little prick

No, I'm thinking "I don't have to worry about that shit where I live."
I don't worry about it here.

I didn't worry about it when I was in HS

Less than 1% of all murder take place in mass shootings. It's silly to worry about less than 1%
 
Gonna admit you were wrong now or are you crawling back into your hole?

Florida school shooting suspect linked to white supremacist group: ADL

He is a registered Democrat and here is his pic for you.

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Someone wrote "gullible" on your ceiling.

You poor kid, he's got all of your favorite on that T-Shirt he's wearing ;)

BREAKING: Don't Let The MAGA Hat Fool You, Hispanic Shooter 'Nicolas de Jesus Cruz' Was A Registered Democrat
Moron... his name is not Nicolas de Jesus Cruz.

Are ya feeling stupid yet? Or are ya too stupid to feel stupid?

I suggest you actually research it kid. Begone. ;)

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LOLOLOL

Moron... his name is Nikolas Jacob Cruz, not Nicolas de Jesus Cruz.

Shit, at some point, ya gotta feel stupid, right??
 
Why do you harp on Chicago when there are 24 worse cities in the U.S. for gun deaths?


Because every year there are almost 1,000 gun deaths in a city with the strictest gun control laws in the country. It is the poster child for the failure of gun control laws and the pandering by the liberal Democrats to the demographics that are the by far main perpetrators of crimes.

However, if your point is that Chicago is not the only Democrat run big city shithole in the US then you are correct. Just look at an election result map from 2016 and the blue splotches are where most of the gun crimes take place. .
Passing really strict gun laws that can be enforced is not possible in this country because people support them about the way people supported Prohibition.

Secondly, the 2nd amendment and various court interpretation prevent the closure of loopholes in the laws. There's a video running on the net by the maker of a gun kit that proudly announces they are able get around serializing their guns since the final construction is by the buyer. So the police will not be able to trace them. Wow, what a boon for the gangs. Then there are the plastic guns that can fool metal detectors.

Lastly, we are a violent society. We claim to hate it but in fact we thrive on, whether it's the latest school shooting, cop shooting, or mass suicide we just can't get enough of it. It's glamorized in movies, books, and TV. Kids have been so desensitized to violence that the most terrible crimes makes no impression on them at all.


330 million people in this country. That includes a lot of nutcases.

Taking rights away from the great majority of the people in this country will do nothing to stop the nut jobs but will greatly damage Liberty.
We don't need take rights away from anybody to make our schools more secure.

Then why isn't it legal to own dynamite generally. You tired old arguments have run out. No one gives a shit about your whining about 'gun rights'. Your the only derps who think anyone wants to ban all guns because gun clingons see conspiracy in everything to begin with. It's you, not everyone else.
I'm not a 2nd amendment fan. I'm just saying we can not pass strict enforceable gun laws today for a number of reason, first being republicans control goverment and any laws passed will be so limited and with so many loopholes, that they will amount to little or nothing. Also, the public has mixed emotions about gun control. They believe in gun control as long it will take guns out of the hands of bad guys and people who are mental disturbed but allow others to buy guns and this is just impractically in our society.
 
Did anyone notice that one of the gun regulations that Trump got rid of was the one banning mentally ill people from buying guns?

He's so hell bent on getting rid of everything Obama that he's actually gotten rid of some stuff that actually makes sense.
 
Imagine this. A guy goes in to buy an AR-15.

He is turned down because he was weird in High School.

Or he was turned down because he was a member of a White Supremacist group.

Or he gets turned down because he posted a video showing Muslim violence?

Or he was turned down because a parent died within the past year?

My God, the NRA would go ballistic.

Trump just blocked an effort to keep crazy people from buying guns that Obama put in place.

So quit talking about missed signs. Talk about the idea that we keep handing out these killing machines at all. They serve no purpose. Stop the NRA's expansion into things like silencers & bump stocks.

If you really think you have to have these things, get some mental help.
 
Wrong again moron.........please...link to that lie, so we can show you how the source lied to you...

I could link every single shooting and I'd just be wasting my time doing so. You could have a shooting at school close to you and you'd still say it was all a lie and we need more gun freedoms. What's the point?


You won't link to the list because I already did......they don't give you a link to the actual information because as Jon has shown, they count anything as a school shooting no matter how "not" a school shooting it is....


I'm not going to link to each shooting because it is a waste of time to do so.

Hell that was just proven true as WillHaftawaite doesn't think a kid blowing his brains out in a school counts as a school shooting.

:rolleyes:

He'd be just as dead if he had cut his wrists, or hung himself.

it was a personal thing, and NOT a 'school shooting'.

But he didn't. And there is a reason for that... it's because guns make it much easier to kill yourself. :rolleyes:

Acquiring a gun + ammo is easy than acquiring... a rope? You serious Clark...?
 
He is a registered Democrat and here is his pic for you.

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Someone wrote "gullible" on your ceiling.

You poor kid, he's got all of your favorite on that T-Shirt he's wearing ;)

BREAKING: Don't Let The MAGA Hat Fool You, Hispanic Shooter 'Nicolas de Jesus Cruz' Was A Registered Democrat
Moron... his name is not Nicolas de Jesus Cruz.

Are ya feeling stupid yet? Or are ya too stupid to feel stupid?

I suggest you actually research it kid. Begone. ;)

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LOLOLOL

Moron... his name is Nikolas Jacob Cruz, not Nicolas de Jesus Cruz.

Shit, at some point, ya gotta feel stupid, right??
Both Biblical names, should we blame the Christians?
 
Because every year there are almost 1,000 gun deaths in a city with the strictest gun control laws in the country. It is the poster child for the failure of gun control laws and the pandering by the liberal Democrats to the demographics that are the by far main perpetrators of crimes.

However, if your point is that Chicago is not the only Democrat run big city shithole in the US then you are correct. Just look at an election result map from 2016 and the blue splotches are where most of the gun crimes take place. .
Passing really strict gun laws that can be enforced is not possible in this country because people support them about the way people supported Prohibition.

Secondly, the 2nd amendment and various court interpretation prevent the closure of loopholes in the laws. There's a video running on the net by the maker of a gun kit that proudly announces they are able get around serializing their guns since the final construction is by the buyer. So the police will not be able to trace them. Wow, what a boon for the gangs. Then there are the plastic guns that can fool metal detectors.

Lastly, we are a violent society. We claim to hate it but in fact we thrive on, whether it's the latest school shooting, cop shooting, or mass suicide we just can't get enough of it. It's glamorized in movies, books, and TV. Kids have been so desensitized to violence that the most terrible crimes makes no impression on them at all.


330 million people in this country. That includes a lot of nutcases.

Taking rights away from the great majority of the people in this country will do nothing to stop the nut jobs but will greatly damage Liberty.
We don't need take rights away from anybody to make our schools more secure.

Then why isn't it legal to own dynamite generally. You tired old arguments have run out. No one gives a shit about your whining about 'gun rights'. Your the only derps who think anyone wants to ban all guns because gun clingons see conspiracy in everything to begin with. It's you, not everyone else.
I'm not a 2nd amendment fan. I'm just saying we can not pass strict enforceable gun laws today for a number of reason, first being republicans control goverment and any laws passed will be so limited and with so many loopholes, that they will amount to little or nothing. Also, the public has mixed emotions about gun control. They believe in gun control as long it will take guns out of the hands of bad guys and people who are mental disturbed but allow others to buy guns and this is just impractically in our society.


We can't have a reasonable debate on gun control because the Liberals are never reasonable. Their agenda is do away with the right to keep and bear arms so as not to be a threat to their precious socialist government. You can't reason with stupidity like that.
 
We have the technology to run an effective government that works hard every day to protect it's citizens.

Baby steps. Frustrating baby steps.

Arrrrrggggggg!

We have the technology to do a lot of things we ought not be doing ... Captain Obvious.
Technology doesn't justify your poor decisions.

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MY poor decisions? :disbelief:

Um... er.... ah... :lmao:

I'd like to see your list of my personal decisions that resulted in 'bad government'. That's either the most arrogant, or the most childish thing I've seen in a long time....



Government is a tool....

Monkey Business is the problem.

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The fact you look towards the government to accomplish what they cannot accomplish in the first place tops the list of your poor decisions ... Captain Obvious ... :thup:
The fact you think the federal government is capable of anything that doesn't include monkey business is a close second ... Captain Obvious.

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