There is no catastrophe so ghastly that we will reform our gun laws

you people don't care about human life or you would care about the 1000's of abortions done DAILY

go take your fake selves and stomp on someone else for your faux outrages

you make me ill

Boom! And Stephanie delivers the knockout blow! Down goes liberals! Down goes liberals!

Over one million babies murdered per year and the libs want to shed fake tears for someone shot because they were too lazy and/or careless to be armed?
 
Except for the 10,000 gun deaths...

If guns made you safer, we'd be the safest nation on earth. Instead we're among the most violent advanced societies on earth.

Clearly it's false that guns make you or society on the whole safer.

What are you citing as your control?

Is there another country out there with identical cultural and socio-economic properties as the US, but no guns?

Gotta love the hypothetical-as-fact argument.

England has the same books, CD's, movies, etc... and (gasp) black folks.
Somehow they have a much safer society. The difference; 2nd amendment here, no second amendment there.

Your turn;

If video games incite violence--ya know--the claptrap we keep hearing from gun nuts and their Grand Dragon Wayne Lapierre, why aren't they inciting gun violence overseas?

So, since England has the same language and potential access to the same media we do here in the US, their culture is identical to our's?

Wowzers. I think we're done right there :)
 
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So by your "logic" - why is the Secret Service heavily armed? So that they can shoot the president? :bang3:

The purpose of a gun is not to "shoot people". The purpose of a gun is to neutralize a threat. Sadly, most often that threat comes in the form of a person - hence the reason to practice on targets shaped like a person. However, it can also come in the form of a bear, a wolf, or other dangerous animal. They are, of course, also used for hunting.

Just think, if you Dumbocrats weren't so soft on crime and working 24x7 to keep criminals on the streets, we wouldn't need so many guns. But lets not talk about that liberal failure... :eusa_shhh:

Poodle, don't be dense. The Secret Service has guns to shoot people who want to shoot the President.

We could also ask the question, if criminals "on the street" are the problem, how is it that we lock up 2 million people and are still so fucking scared, while Germany locks up only 78,000, and yet they have less than a 600 murders a year, and most of their citizens don't own guns?

If guns and prisons were the answer to crime, we'd have the lowest crime rate in the industrialized world,not the highest.

Of course, Germany, Japan, the UK, France. They don't have lots of guns or lots of prisons. What they do have is an economic system where everyone is promised a job, and those who can't work get good benefits and everyone gets free medical care.

Fucking commie socialist bastards making us look bad.
 
you people don't care about human life or you would care about the 1000's of abortions done DAILY

go take your fake selves and stomp on someone else for your faux outrages

you make me ill

Boom! And Stephanie delivers the knockout blow! Down goes liberals! Down goes liberals!

Over one million babies murdered per year and the libs want to shed fake tears for someone shot because they were too lazy and/or careless to be armed?

Kidney-bean sized fetuses aren't "babies", dude.
 
you people don't care about human life or you would care about the 1000's of abortions done DAILY

go take your fake selves and stomp on someone else for your faux outrages

you make me ill

I do care about the abortions.

I care that we do such a shitty job at sex education and birth control and economic equality that we have twice the number of abortions that other industrialized countries have.

I just don't think you solve the abortion problem by passing laws that no one obeys.
 
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[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION], [MENTION=48060]guno[/MENTION], [MENTION=47594]PaintMyHouse[/MENTION], [MENTION=20155]paperview[/MENTION]

Yes, none explain all the other things people do to hit targets. None of them also explain why if guns are only to kill people why they like to shoot them. And none of them ever meet anyone else who shoots guns who isn't a liberal caricature of gun owners. They just love the lie that they know guns and gun owners because they are them, and that's how they know we're one tree twig snap of a shooting rampage.

So gentlemen, I invited you here for a challenge. Act on your lie and your stereotypical liberal elitist snobby views of gun owners. Go down to your local shooting club and walk the walk of telling them you are imagining shooting people with every target and that's the only purpose of guns and ask them what shooting rampage fantasizes they have. If you want to maintain the lie, do it. The response you get isn't remotely what you think it will be...

You have a point. Most of the targets I shot at in the army were shaped like a person.

Now, why make a paper target look like a person if the purpose of the gun wasn't to SHOOT PEOPLE!!!

Come on, dude, this ain't rocket science.

Dude, soldiers are trained to shoot people so it makes sense they want targets to look like people.

Why would the military waste money teaching you to shoot skeet?
 
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[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION], [MENTION=48060]guno[/MENTION], [MENTION=47594]PaintMyHouse[/MENTION], [MENTION=20155]paperview[/MENTION]

Yes, none explain all the other things people do to hit targets. None of them also explain why if guns are only to kill people why they like to shoot them. And none of them ever meet anyone else who shoots guns who isn't a liberal caricature of gun owners. They just love the lie that they know guns and gun owners because they are them, and that's how they know we're one tree twig snap of a shooting rampage.

So gentlemen, I invited you here for a challenge. Act on your lie and your stereotypical liberal elitist snobby views of gun owners. Go down to your local shooting club and walk the walk of telling them you are imagining shooting people with every target and that's the only purpose of guns and ask them what shooting rampage fantasizes they have. If you want to maintain the lie, do it. The response you get isn't remotely what you think it will be...

You have a point. Most of the targets I shot at in the army were shaped like a person.

Now, why make a paper target look like a person if the purpose of the gun wasn't to SHOOT PEOPLE!!!

Come on, dude, this ain't rocket science.

Dude, soldiers are trained to shoot people so it makes sense they want targets to look like people.

Why would the military waste money teaching you to shoot skeet?



That's a good one there skull.

The military trains soldiers to shoot people instead of skeet.

And all the other gun owners (non military) who are very much afraid of thugs, rapists, thieves, murderers, etc, they are all out at the range practicing to shoot what......skeet?

You crack me up dude.
 
You have a point. Most of the targets I shot at in the army were shaped like a person.

Now, why make a paper target look like a person if the purpose of the gun wasn't to SHOOT PEOPLE!!!

Come on, dude, this ain't rocket science.

Dude, soldiers are trained to shoot people so it makes sense they want targets to look like people.

Why would the military waste money teaching you to shoot skeet?



That's a good one there skull.

The military trains soldiers to shoot people instead of skeet.

And all the other gun owners (non military) who are very much afraid of thugs, rapists, thieves, murderers, etc, they are all out at the range practicing to shoot what......skeet?

You crack me up dude.

I don't give a shit what other people do. Haven't you figured that out yet?

And there you go again projecting your fear on others.

Only fearful people want to ban things.
 
Dude, soldiers are trained to shoot people so it makes sense they want targets to look like people.

Why would the military waste money teaching you to shoot skeet?



That's a good one there skull.

The military trains soldiers to shoot people instead of skeet.

And all the other gun owners (non military) who are very much afraid of thugs, rapists, thieves, murderers, etc, they are all out at the range practicing to shoot what......skeet?

You crack me up dude.

I don't give a shit what other people do. Haven't you figured that out yet?

And there you go again projecting your fear on others.

Only fearful people want to ban things.



Wtf are you talking about? I just asked if all the civilians at the shooting range are there to practice to shoot skeet. According to you, this would be correct. Yes or no.

Has nothing to do with a ban on anything. I mean, skeet are not endangered. Right?

As to whether or not you care what other people do. That's not really the truth now is it?
If you REALLY didn't care what others think or do, you wouldn't bother to respond to posts at all. You'd post your opinion and move on. Cause who cares what others think.

But really, telling gun nutters how fearful they are is not very nice. Because only fearful people go out and shoot up boxes of skeet. Ban skeet shooting is what I say.
 
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That's a good one there skull.

The military trains soldiers to shoot people instead of skeet.

And all the other gun owners (non military) who are very much afraid of thugs, rapists, thieves, murderers, etc, they are all out at the range practicing to shoot what......skeet?

You crack me up dude.

I don't give a shit what other people do. Haven't you figured that out yet?

And there you go again projecting your fear on others.

Only fearful people want to ban things.



Wtf are you talking about? I just asked if all the civilians at the shooting range are there to practice to shoot skeet. According to you, this would be correct. Yes or no.

Has nothing to do with a ban on anything. I mean, skeet are not endangered. Right?

As to whether or not you care what other people do. That's not really the truth now is it?
If you REALLY didn't care what others think or do, you wouldn't bother to respond to posts at all. You'd post your opinion and move on. Cause who cares what others think.

But really, telling gun nutters how fearful they are is not very nice. Because only fearful people go out and shoot up boxes of skeet. Ban skeet shooting is what I say.



You asked a question I answered it.

You cannot compare the military in any way to civilian life.

The military exists solely to kill people and destroy things so of course they train to that end and that end only.

And I don't know nor do I care what kinds of targets other civilians shoot at because it doesn't matter.


People who accuse others of being fearful in my experience are actually the ones who are the most afraid.
 
you people don't care about human life or you would care about the 1000's of abortions done DAILY

go take your fake selves and stomp on someone else for your faux outrages

you make me ill

Boom! And Stephanie delivers the knockout blow! Down goes liberals! Down goes liberals!

Over one million babies murdered per year and the libs want to shed fake tears for someone shot because they were too lazy and/or careless to be armed?

Don't touch my guns because of abortion....Got it
 
I don't give a shit what other people do. Haven't you figured that out yet?

And there you go again projecting your fear on others.

Only fearful people want to ban things.



Wtf are you talking about? I just asked if all the civilians at the shooting range are there to practice to shoot skeet. According to you, this would be correct. Yes or no.

Has nothing to do with a ban on anything. I mean, skeet are not endangered. Right?

As to whether or not you care what other people do. That's not really the truth now is it?
If you REALLY didn't care what others think or do, you wouldn't bother to respond to posts at all. You'd post your opinion and move on. Cause who cares what others think.

But really, telling gun nutters how fearful they are is not very nice. Because only fearful people go out and shoot up boxes of skeet. Ban skeet shooting is what I say.



You asked a question I answered it.

You cannot compare the military in any way to civilian life.

The military exists solely to kill people and destroy things so of course they train to that end and that end only.

And I don't know nor do I care what kinds of targets other civilians shoot at because it doesn't matter.


People who accuse others of being fearful in my experience are actually the ones who are the most afraid.




Yea I know what you mean. I never leave home without my AK47, a .45 on my hip and my ankle gun is a .38. I always wear a bullet proof vest and have my night vision goggles close at hand. And at least a couple hundred rounds of ammo for all weapons. All this just to run to the grocery store.

You should see my outfit when I am going to Home Depot. Whew. Exhausting just to get all ready to go.

Scared I am yes sir scared I am.

Now I think I will get ready for work. First I have to go to the armory.
 
Skull, we've kind of established you're a nihilist who doesn't care about anyone but himself.

But it's not a good reason why we should tolerate 32,000 gun deaths a year because the gun fetishists have misinterpreted a 200 year old law.
 
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Wtf are you talking about? I just asked if all the civilians at the shooting range are there to practice to shoot skeet. According to you, this would be correct. Yes or no.

Has nothing to do with a ban on anything. I mean, skeet are not endangered. Right?

As to whether or not you care what other people do. That's not really the truth now is it?
If you REALLY didn't care what others think or do, you wouldn't bother to respond to posts at all. You'd post your opinion and move on. Cause who cares what others think.

But really, telling gun nutters how fearful they are is not very nice. Because only fearful people go out and shoot up boxes of skeet. Ban skeet shooting is what I say.



You asked a question I answered it.

You cannot compare the military in any way to civilian life.

The military exists solely to kill people and destroy things so of course they train to that end and that end only.

And I don't know nor do I care what kinds of targets other civilians shoot at because it doesn't matter.


People who accuse others of being fearful in my experience are actually the ones who are the most afraid.




Yea I know what you mean. I never leave home without my AK47, a .45 on my hip and my ankle gun is a .38. I always wear a bullet proof vest and have my night vision goggles close at hand. And at least a couple hundred rounds of ammo for all weapons. All this just to run to the grocery store.

You should see my outfit when I am going to Home Depot. Whew. Exhausting just to get all ready to go.

Scared I am yes sir scared I am.

Now I think I will get ready for work. First I have to go to the armory.

I can just imagine the shit eating grin on your face as you post this "masterpiece" of snark, pounding on the keyboard in your mother's basement.
 
Skull, we've kind of established you're a nihilist who doesn't care about anyone but himself.

But it's not a good reason why we should tolerate 32,000 gun deaths a year because the gun fetishists have misinterpreted a 200 year old law.

19k of those are suicides, they don't count. Stop using shit numbers.
 
Skull, we've kind of established you're a nihilist who doesn't care about anyone but himself.

But it's not a good reason why we should tolerate 32,000 gun deaths a year because the gun fetishists have misinterpreted a 200 year old law.

Suicides do not count.

The simple fact is that the vast majority of gun owners will never point their weapon at another person never mind shoot or kill another person.

I don't hold people who have done nothing wrong responsible for the crimes of others nor do I believe in curbing the rights of others to assuage my own fears as you do.

People kill people
People always have killed people
People always will kill people

Those are the facts proven over the entirety of our existence.
 
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Wtf are you talking about? I just asked if all the civilians at the shooting range are there to practice to shoot skeet. According to you, this would be correct. Yes or no.

Has nothing to do with a ban on anything. I mean, skeet are not endangered. Right?

As to whether or not you care what other people do. That's not really the truth now is it?
If you REALLY didn't care what others think or do, you wouldn't bother to respond to posts at all. You'd post your opinion and move on. Cause who cares what others think.

But really, telling gun nutters how fearful they are is not very nice. Because only fearful people go out and shoot up boxes of skeet. Ban skeet shooting is what I say.



You asked a question I answered it.

You cannot compare the military in any way to civilian life.

The military exists solely to kill people and destroy things so of course they train to that end and that end only.

And I don't know nor do I care what kinds of targets other civilians shoot at because it doesn't matter.


People who accuse others of being fearful in my experience are actually the ones who are the most afraid.




Yea I know what you mean. I never leave home without my AK47, a .45 on my hip and my ankle gun is a .38. I always wear a bullet proof vest and have my night vision goggles close at hand. And at least a couple hundred rounds of ammo for all weapons. All this just to run to the grocery store.

You should see my outfit when I am going to Home Depot. Whew. Exhausting just to get all ready to go.

Scared I am yes sir scared I am.

Now I think I will get ready for work. First I have to go to the armory.

And i do not care if you do that so why do you care if someone else does?

BTW I rarely carry a firearm even though I have my concealed carry permit.
 
Skull, we've kind of established you're a nihilist who doesn't care about anyone but himself.

But it's not a good reason why we should tolerate 32,000 gun deaths a year because the gun fetishists have misinterpreted a 200 year old law.

Suicides do not count.

The simple fact is that the vast majority of gun owners will never point their weapon at another person never mind shoot or kill another person.

I don't hold people who have done nothing wrong responsible for the crimes of others nor do I believe in curbing the rights of others to assuage my own fears as you do.

People kill people
People always have killed people
People always will kill people

Those are the facts proven over the entirety of our existence.

Suicides do count to the persons family. And a gun is the number one form of suicide

Most cars never get in accidents but we have rules that apply to everyone
 
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Skull, we've kind of established you're a nihilist who doesn't care about anyone but himself.

But it's not a good reason why we should tolerate 32,000 gun deaths a year because the gun fetishists have misinterpreted a 200 year old law.

Suicides do not count.

The simple fact is that the vast majority of gun owners will never point their weapon at another person never mind shoot or kill another person.

I don't hold people who have done nothing wrong responsible for the crimes of others nor do I believe in curbing the rights of others to assuage my own fears as you do.

People kill people
People always have killed people
People always will kill people

Those are the facts proven over the entirety of our existence.

Suicides do count to the persons family. And a gun is the number one form of suicide

No reason to restrict MY right to a firearm.
 

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