There Is No More Science, Only Politics

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Here's a guy that knows what he's talking about, not some political diva looking for funds from socialist Countries trying to justify another reason to TAX People.

Or faux 'scientists' with a faux degree that is absolutely worthless in the real world and are not above making shit up so they can keep the Grant Money pouring in from said socialists looking for another reason to levy a tax on their already over-burdened people.

Real Life Climatologist Roy Spencer On 2014 As The Hottest Year Ever: Nope! [CBD]
—Open Blogger


mountains_snow2000.jpg



The guy has an actual PhD, in a discipline that might have some special insight into climate change. Yes, argument from authority is not popular around here, but in this case he really is a rocket scientist! And he really doesn't like the shabby analysis that passes for climatology nowadays.

Science as a methodology for getting closer to the truth has been all but abandoned. It is now just one more tool to achieve political ends.

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops, plastered across t-shirts, hammered into the skulls of every progressive who proclaims his dedication to rational thought but in reality worships at the altar of Moloch; willing to destroy anything for his own ends.



Oh....and he doesn't like journalists very much (I have a sneaking suspicion that he is a Moron)

Reports that 2014 was the "hottest" year on record feed the insatiable appetite the public has for definitive, alarming headlines. It doesn't matter that even in the thermometer record, 2014 wasn't the warmest within the margin of error. Who wants to bother with "margin of error"? Journalists went into journalism so they wouldn't have to deal with such technical mumbo-jumbo. I said this six weeks ago, as did others, but no one cares unless a mainstream news source stumbles upon it and is objective enough to report it.

This is an interesting, if slightly non-scientific point......

In what universe does a temperature change that is too small for anyone to feel over a 50 year period become globally significant? Where we don't know if the global average temperature is 58 or 59 or 60 deg. F, but we are sure that if it increases by 1 or 2 deg. F, that would be a catastrophe?

He is on quite a roll......

Where our only truly global temperature measurements, the satellites, are ignored because they don't show a record warm year in 2014?

In what universe do the climate models built to guide energy policy are not even adjusted to reflect reality, when they over-forecast past warming by a factor of 2 or 3?

And where people have to lie about severe weather getting worse (it hasn't)? Or where we have totally forgotten that more CO2 is actually good for life on Earth, leading to increased agricultural productivity, and global greening?




Go read it. I can't excerpt it all, but it's short, has some good links, and even has pictures!

From: Ace of Spades HQ
 
If "science" ruled here this would be an entirely different country, and you wouldn't like it at all.

Marx wasn't proposing science, he was proposing a delusion.

The Only system that has ever worked better than Capitalism is more Capitalism.

Screw Godwin; Hitler thought his system was scientific. So did Mussolini and Pol Pot and Mao and every other scumbag socialist piece of fucking shit that has ever lived and should have been to death before they breathed their first breath..

Look at all the bullshit those scumbags tried to pass off as 'science' that ended up murdering MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people. All their 'five year' plans, all their "great leap forwards' all their shit they thought was scientific

I hate socialists with a passion you can only imagine.
 
If "science" ruled here this would be an entirely different country, and you wouldn't like it at all.

Marx wasn't proposing science, he was proposing a delusion.

The Only system that has ever worked better than Capitalism is more Capitalism.

Screw Godwin; Hitler thought his system was scientific. So did Mussolini and Pol Pot and Mao and every other scumbag socialist piece of fucking shit that has ever lived and should have been to death before they breathed their first breath..

Look at all the bullshit those scumbags tried to pass off as 'science'. that ended up murdering MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people.

I hate socialists with a passion you can only imagine.
Hey Dummy, Marxism is Politics, Economics, even a lens to view history though, Science is science, and it doesn't support your worldview with God on top and faggots underneath your boots.
 
When the proposed solution is to raise taxes and grow government on the backs of the poor and middle class you know socialist puke liberals are up to something.
 
If "science" ruled here this would be an entirely different country, and you wouldn't like it at all.

Marx wasn't proposing science, he was proposing a delusion.

The Only system that has ever worked better than Capitalism is more Capitalism.

Screw Godwin; Hitler thought his system was scientific. So did Mussolini and Pol Pot and Mao and every other scumbag socialist piece of fucking shit that has ever lived and should have been to death before they breathed their first breath..

Look at all the bullshit those scumbags tried to pass off as 'science'. that ended up murdering MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people.

I hate socialists with a passion you can only imagine.
Hey Dummy, Marxism is Politics, Economics, even a lens to view history though, Science is science, and it doesn't support your worldview with God on top and faggots underneath your boots.

There you go with the typical dimocap scum inspired Kafka-esque accusations.

I despise dimocraps. I really do. With all the breath of my body, I despise dimocraps.

1) I don't believe in 'God'

2) I could not care less if you and your pals want to bugger each other into a coma.

3) You're a douche

Run away. It's what your type does best. Drop a line, tell a lie, make a false accusation, then run away.
 
If "science" ruled here this would be an entirely different country, and you wouldn't like it at all.

Marx wasn't proposing science, he was proposing a delusion.

The Only system that has ever worked better than Capitalism is more Capitalism.

Screw Godwin; Hitler thought his system was scientific. So did Mussolini and Pol Pot and Mao and every other scumbag socialist piece of fucking shit that has ever lived and should have been to death before they breathed their first breath..

Look at all the bullshit those scumbags tried to pass off as 'science'. that ended up murdering MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people.

I hate socialists with a passion you can only imagine.
Hey Dummy, Marxism is Politics, Economics, even a lens to view history though, Science is science, and it doesn't support your worldview with God on top and faggots underneath your boots.

There you go with the typical dimocap scum inspired Kafka-esque accusations.

I despise dimocraps. I really do. With all the breath of my body, I despise dimocraps.

1) I don't believe in 'God'

2) I could not care less if you and your pals want to bugger each other into a coma.

3) You're a douche

Run away. It's what your type does best. Drop a line, tell a lie, make a false accusation, then run away.
It's my country not yours, so get the fuck out if you don't like it.
 
If "science" ruled here this would be an entirely different country, and you wouldn't like it at all.

Eugenics is not a real science
The basis of it is. Healthy people make healthy babies. It's not complicated, it's good breeding.


So you're in agreement with your political forebear, Hitler then?

Maybe we should start with you.

I know what he's trying to do people......

He's trying to start a shit-slinging fight on this thread so he and his butt-buddies can get a sympathetic Mod to send it to the Siberia of USMB.

Because this thread nails these people. It hammers them. It explains them. It has them dead to rights and they can't lie their way out of it.

Next best thing? Censor it. Get it sent away.

Trust me, it's what they do.
 
Here's a guy that knows what he's talking about, not some political diva looking for funds from socialist Countries trying to justify another reason to TAX People.

Or faux 'scientists' with a faux degree that is absolutely worthless in the real world and are not above making shit up so they can keep the Grant Money pouring in from said socialists looking for another reason to levy a tax on their already over-burdened people.

Real Life Climatologist Roy Spencer On 2014 As The Hottest Year Ever: Nope! [CBD]
—Open Blogger


mountains_snow2000.jpg



The guy has an actual PhD, in a discipline that might have some special insight into climate change. Yes, argument from authority is not popular around here, but in this case he really is a rocket scientist! And he really doesn't like the shabby analysis that passes for climatology nowadays.

Science as a methodology for getting closer to the truth has been all but abandoned. It is now just one more tool to achieve political ends.

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops, plastered across t-shirts, hammered into the skulls of every progressive who proclaims his dedication to rational thought but in reality worships at the altar of Moloch; willing to destroy anything for his own ends.



Oh....and he doesn't like journalists very much (I have a sneaking suspicion that he is a Moron)

Reports that 2014 was the "hottest" year on record feed the insatiable appetite the public has for definitive, alarming headlines. It doesn't matter that even in the thermometer record, 2014 wasn't the warmest within the margin of error. Who wants to bother with "margin of error"? Journalists went into journalism so they wouldn't have to deal with such technical mumbo-jumbo. I said this six weeks ago, as did others, but no one cares unless a mainstream news source stumbles upon it and is objective enough to report it.

This is an interesting, if slightly non-scientific point......

In what universe does a temperature change that is too small for anyone to feel over a 50 year period become globally significant? Where we don't know if the global average temperature is 58 or 59 or 60 deg. F, but we are sure that if it increases by 1 or 2 deg. F, that would be a catastrophe?

He is on quite a roll......

Where our only truly global temperature measurements, the satellites, are ignored because they don't show a record warm year in 2014?

In what universe do the climate models built to guide energy policy are not even adjusted to reflect reality, when they over-forecast past warming by a factor of 2 or 3?

And where people have to lie about severe weather getting worse (it hasn't)? Or where we have totally forgotten that more CO2 is actually good for life on Earth, leading to increased agricultural productivity, and global greening?




Go read it. I can't excerpt it all, but it's short, has some good links, and even has pictures!

From: Ace of Spades HQ

The Roy Spencer that agreed with this:

"Earth and its ecosystems – created by God's intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence – are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting".

I just want to make sure we're talking about the same guy.
 
Here's a guy that knows what he's talking about, not some political diva looking for funds from socialist Countries trying to justify another reason to TAX People.

Or faux 'scientists' with a faux degree that is absolutely worthless in the real world and are not above making shit up so they can keep the Grant Money pouring in from said socialists looking for another reason to levy a tax on their already over-burdened people.

Real Life Climatologist Roy Spencer On 2014 As The Hottest Year Ever: Nope! [CBD]
—Open Blogger


mountains_snow2000.jpg



The guy has an actual PhD, in a discipline that might have some special insight into climate change. Yes, argument from authority is not popular around here, but in this case he really is a rocket scientist! And he really doesn't like the shabby analysis that passes for climatology nowadays.

Science as a methodology for getting closer to the truth has been all but abandoned. It is now just one more tool to achieve political ends.

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops, plastered across t-shirts, hammered into the skulls of every progressive who proclaims his dedication to rational thought but in reality worships at the altar of Moloch; willing to destroy anything for his own ends.



Oh....and he doesn't like journalists very much (I have a sneaking suspicion that he is a Moron)

Reports that 2014 was the "hottest" year on record feed the insatiable appetite the public has for definitive, alarming headlines. It doesn't matter that even in the thermometer record, 2014 wasn't the warmest within the margin of error. Who wants to bother with "margin of error"? Journalists went into journalism so they wouldn't have to deal with such technical mumbo-jumbo. I said this six weeks ago, as did others, but no one cares unless a mainstream news source stumbles upon it and is objective enough to report it.

This is an interesting, if slightly non-scientific point......

In what universe does a temperature change that is too small for anyone to feel over a 50 year period become globally significant? Where we don't know if the global average temperature is 58 or 59 or 60 deg. F, but we are sure that if it increases by 1 or 2 deg. F, that would be a catastrophe?

He is on quite a roll......

Where our only truly global temperature measurements, the satellites, are ignored because they don't show a record warm year in 2014?

In what universe do the climate models built to guide energy policy are not even adjusted to reflect reality, when they over-forecast past warming by a factor of 2 or 3?

And where people have to lie about severe weather getting worse (it hasn't)? Or where we have totally forgotten that more CO2 is actually good for life on Earth, leading to increased agricultural productivity, and global greening?




Go read it. I can't excerpt it all, but it's short, has some good links, and even has pictures!

From: Ace of Spades HQ

The Roy Spencer that agreed with this:

"Earth and its ecosystems – created by God's intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence – are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting".

I just want to make sure we're talking about the same guy.


Because Religious People are so dumb? Is that your contention?

250px-Lemaitre.jpg



Monseigneur Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, (French: [ʒɔʁʒə ləmɛtʁ] ( listen); 17 July 1894 – 20 June 1966) was a Belgian priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the French section of the Catholic University of Leuven.[1] He was the first known academic to propose the theory of the expansion of the universe, widely misattributed to Edwin Hubble.[2][3] He was also the first to derive what is now known as Hubble's law and made the first estimation of what is now called the Hubble constant, which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble's article.[4][5][6][7] Lemaître also proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his "hypothesis of theprimeval atom" or the "Cosmic Egg".[8]

Moron
 
Here's a guy that knows what he's talking about, not some political diva looking for funds from socialist Countries trying to justify another reason to TAX People.

Or faux 'scientists' with a faux degree that is absolutely worthless in the real world and are not above making shit up so they can keep the Grant Money pouring in from said socialists looking for another reason to levy a tax on their already over-burdened people.

Real Life Climatologist Roy Spencer On 2014 As The Hottest Year Ever: Nope! [CBD]
—Open Blogger

This has already been covered in this POST under Enviornment.

Climate scientist Dr. Roy Spencer lays the smack to 2014 warmest year ever nonsense US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
 
Here's a guy that knows what he's talking about, not some political diva looking for funds from socialist Countries trying to justify another reason to TAX People.

Or faux 'scientists' with a faux degree that is absolutely worthless in the real world and are not above making shit up so they can keep the Grant Money pouring in from said socialists looking for another reason to levy a tax on their already over-burdened people.

Real Life Climatologist Roy Spencer On 2014 As The Hottest Year Ever: Nope! [CBD]
—Open Blogger


mountains_snow2000.jpg



The guy has an actual PhD, in a discipline that might have some special insight into climate change. Yes, argument from authority is not popular around here, but in this case he really is a rocket scientist! And he really doesn't like the shabby analysis that passes for climatology nowadays.

Science as a methodology for getting closer to the truth has been all but abandoned. It is now just one more tool to achieve political ends.

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops, plastered across t-shirts, hammered into the skulls of every progressive who proclaims his dedication to rational thought but in reality worships at the altar of Moloch; willing to destroy anything for his own ends.



Oh....and he doesn't like journalists very much (I have a sneaking suspicion that he is a Moron)

Reports that 2014 was the "hottest" year on record feed the insatiable appetite the public has for definitive, alarming headlines. It doesn't matter that even in the thermometer record, 2014 wasn't the warmest within the margin of error. Who wants to bother with "margin of error"? Journalists went into journalism so they wouldn't have to deal with such technical mumbo-jumbo. I said this six weeks ago, as did others, but no one cares unless a mainstream news source stumbles upon it and is objective enough to report it.

This is an interesting, if slightly non-scientific point......

In what universe does a temperature change that is too small for anyone to feel over a 50 year period become globally significant? Where we don't know if the global average temperature is 58 or 59 or 60 deg. F, but we are sure that if it increases by 1 or 2 deg. F, that would be a catastrophe?

He is on quite a roll......

Where our only truly global temperature measurements, the satellites, are ignored because they don't show a record warm year in 2014?

In what universe do the climate models built to guide energy policy are not even adjusted to reflect reality, when they over-forecast past warming by a factor of 2 or 3?

And where people have to lie about severe weather getting worse (it hasn't)? Or where we have totally forgotten that more CO2 is actually good for life on Earth, leading to increased agricultural productivity, and global greening?




Go read it. I can't excerpt it all, but it's short, has some good links, and even has pictures!

From: Ace of Spades HQ

The Roy Spencer that agreed with this:

"Earth and its ecosystems – created by God's intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence – are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting".

I just want to make sure we're talking about the same guy.


Because Religious People are so dumb? Is that your contention?

250px-Lemaitre.jpg



Monseigneur Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, (French: [ʒɔʁʒə ləmɛtʁ] ( listen); 17 July 1894 – 20 June 1966) was a Belgian priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the French section of the Catholic University of Leuven.[1] He was the first known academic to propose the theory of the expansion of the universe, widely misattributed to Edwin Hubble.[2][3] He was also the first to derive what is now known as Hubble's law and made the first estimation of what is now called the Hubble constant, which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble's article.[4][5][6][7] Lemaître also proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his "hypothesis of theprimeval atom" or the "Cosmic Egg".[8]

Moron

So Mr. Spencer in question is the one that denies both evolution and climate change. I'm assuming Mr. Spencer is down with the earth being round, yes?
 
Here's a guy that knows what he's talking about, not some political diva looking for funds from socialist Countries trying to justify another reason to TAX People.

Or faux 'scientists' with a faux degree that is absolutely worthless in the real world and are not above making shit up so they can keep the Grant Money pouring in from said socialists looking for another reason to levy a tax on their already over-burdened people.

Real Life Climatologist Roy Spencer On 2014 As The Hottest Year Ever: Nope! [CBD]
—Open Blogger


mountains_snow2000.jpg



The guy has an actual PhD, in a discipline that might have some special insight into climate change. Yes, argument from authority is not popular around here, but in this case he really is a rocket scientist! And he really doesn't like the shabby analysis that passes for climatology nowadays.

Science as a methodology for getting closer to the truth has been all but abandoned. It is now just one more tool to achieve political ends.

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops, plastered across t-shirts, hammered into the skulls of every progressive who proclaims his dedication to rational thought but in reality worships at the altar of Moloch; willing to destroy anything for his own ends.



Oh....and he doesn't like journalists very much (I have a sneaking suspicion that he is a Moron)

Reports that 2014 was the "hottest" year on record feed the insatiable appetite the public has for definitive, alarming headlines. It doesn't matter that even in the thermometer record, 2014 wasn't the warmest within the margin of error. Who wants to bother with "margin of error"? Journalists went into journalism so they wouldn't have to deal with such technical mumbo-jumbo. I said this six weeks ago, as did others, but no one cares unless a mainstream news source stumbles upon it and is objective enough to report it.

This is an interesting, if slightly non-scientific point......

In what universe does a temperature change that is too small for anyone to feel over a 50 year period become globally significant? Where we don't know if the global average temperature is 58 or 59 or 60 deg. F, but we are sure that if it increases by 1 or 2 deg. F, that would be a catastrophe?

He is on quite a roll......

Where our only truly global temperature measurements, the satellites, are ignored because they don't show a record warm year in 2014?

In what universe do the climate models built to guide energy policy are not even adjusted to reflect reality, when they over-forecast past warming by a factor of 2 or 3?

And where people have to lie about severe weather getting worse (it hasn't)? Or where we have totally forgotten that more CO2 is actually good for life on Earth, leading to increased agricultural productivity, and global greening?




Go read it. I can't excerpt it all, but it's short, has some good links, and even has pictures!

From: Ace of Spades HQ

The Roy Spencer that agreed with this:

"Earth and its ecosystems – created by God's intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence – are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting".

I just want to make sure we're talking about the same guy.


Because Religious People are so dumb? Is that your contention?

250px-Lemaitre.jpg



Monseigneur Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, (French: [ʒɔʁʒə ləmɛtʁ] ( listen); 17 July 1894 – 20 June 1966) was a Belgian priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the French section of the Catholic University of Leuven.[1] He was the first known academic to propose the theory of the expansion of the universe, widely misattributed to Edwin Hubble.[2][3] He was also the first to derive what is now known as Hubble's law and made the first estimation of what is now called the Hubble constant, which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble's article.[4][5][6][7] Lemaître also proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his "hypothesis of theprimeval atom" or the "Cosmic Egg".[8]

Moron

So Mr. Spencer in question is the one that denies both evolution and climate change. I'm assuming Mr. Spencer is down with the earth being round, yes?
Only if God says so apparently. In his science people are raised from the dead, and donkeys and burning bushes speak.
 
Here's a guy that knows what he's talking about, not some political diva looking for funds from socialist Countries trying to justify another reason to TAX People.

Or faux 'scientists' with a faux degree that is absolutely worthless in the real world and are not above making shit up so they can keep the Grant Money pouring in from said socialists looking for another reason to levy a tax on their already over-burdened people.

Real Life Climatologist Roy Spencer On 2014 As The Hottest Year Ever: Nope! [CBD]
—Open Blogger

This has already been covered in this POST under Enviornment.

Climate scientist Dr. Roy Spencer lays the smack to 2014 warmest year ever nonsense US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So what? There are multiple threads on the Politics Board right now about the AGW hoax.

If the Mods whacked every duplicate thread, there wouldn't be 3 threads in here originated by dimocraps.

And, BTW? How did that other thread get sent off to the 'Environment' Board?

Wonder why that would happen?

Clearly, this thread is about politics and how it rules over the fakeness of what some call 'science'
 
Here's a guy that knows what he's talking about, not some political diva looking for funds from socialist Countries trying to justify another reason to TAX People.

Or faux 'scientists' with a faux degree that is absolutely worthless in the real world and are not above making shit up so they can keep the Grant Money pouring in from said socialists looking for another reason to levy a tax on their already over-burdened people.

Real Life Climatologist Roy Spencer On 2014 As The Hottest Year Ever: Nope! [CBD]
—Open Blogger

This has already been covered in this POST under Enviornment.

Climate scientist Dr. Roy Spencer lays the smack to 2014 warmest year ever nonsense US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So what? There are multiple threads on the Politics Board right now about the AGW hoax.

If the Mods whacked every duplicate thread, there wouldn't be 3 threads in here originated by dimocraps.

And, BTW? How did that other thread get sent off to the 'Environment' Board?

Wonder why that would happen?

Clearly, this thread is about politics and how it rules over the fakeness of what some call 'science'

Let's see...it didn't get "sent off" to the Environment Board. IT STARTED OFF THERE AND STAYED THERE. What? You're pissed off because someone beat you to it. Go get screwed asshole.
 
Here's a thought.....

How about using this thread to gore your favorite bogeyman --

Like this one.....

Economics is just politics masquerading as science Pragmatic Capitalism Gold Stocks Forex

Most of economics involves conforming a political bias with a world view. For instance, most Keynesians start with government spending and taxing, how those government policies can influence the economy and then interpret a “model” in such a way that confirms their political bias. Monetarists start with the central bank and interpret a more laissez-faire view of a “model” to interpret how policy can impact the economy. Austrians start with the private sector and build a “model” that seeks to eliminate government. So on and so forth. Every “school” of economics has a very specific ideology and the political lines are very clearly drawn. This doesn’t even approach “science”. It’s more like religion.

Or this one:

The Danger of Advocacy Masquerading as Science Big Think


The Danger of Advocacy Masquerading as Science
by DAVID ROPEIK
We think of science as a process that can reveal truth. Tested, proven, objective, certain truth. Sadly, science is also a process of proving whatever truth the scientist wants to prove. Ask the right questions, get the right answers. The tobacco companies did it. Chemical companies have done it. And more and more, scientists researching a range of environmental issues are doing it, constructing their experiments and distorting their findings in order to prosecute their battle against what they see as threats to human and environmental health.

But that would require original thought on people's part.

I am rapidly losing faith in Humanity.

Science? Really? Does it even exist anymore?
 

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