There's no such thing as "judeo christian"

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That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.
 
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That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.

It is a term generally used to describe a set of values or principles common to both religions. The Jewish and Christian religions have always had a close relationship, probably closer than any two religions in history. Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism.

Saying you have common roots or common values is not stating you are the same. Combining names to describe an overall absolute is not saying you are the same thing. "Dallas/Ft. Worth" doesn't mean Ft. Worth is Dallas or Dallas is Ft. Worth, or that they are identically the same thing. It's simply a way to describe an area that contains both cities. The same is true with Judeo-Christian.

Also... you are just plain wrong about the origins of the term. That is credited to Alexander McCaul who was a Christian missionary to the Jews. So the term was created by a Christian trying to appeal to Jews.

"From all I can see there is but one way to bring about the object of the Society, that is by erecting a Judæo Christian community, a city of refuge, where all who wish to be baptized could be supplied with the means of earning their bread." M'Caul, Alexander (1820–1821).
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.

To understand the term Judeo-Christian it requires the ability to grasp subtly and nuance. Perhaps that is the reason for your confusion. No, christians and Jews are not the same but they share a common origin (Jesus was a Jew) and many common values.
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.

To understand the term Judeo-Christian it requires the ability to grasp subtly and nuance. Perhaps that is the reason for your confusion. No, christians and Jews are not the same but they share a common origin (Jesus was a Jew) and many common values.

No. Jesus was a Jew, but he had nothing to do with the development of that religion. The rules of Judaism were set long before he as born.
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.
The common root is jesus...as someone born and raised catholic and views themselves as agnostic/atheist [you can choose] I see the ones who view the situation of his resurrection as fact as the ones trying to fit in...though that does not negate your claim
 
so true-----Judaism and Christianity are unrelated to the same extent that Christianity is unrelated to the Pharisee jew-----Jesus of Nazareth. Christianity is a religion of the ROMAN EMPIRE-----the empire that Jesus of Nazareth rejected
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.
The common root is jesus...as someone born and raised catholic and views themselves as agnostic/atheist [you can choose] I see the ones who view the situation of his resurrection as fact as the ones trying to fit in...though that does not negate your claim

No.Jesus is not a common root of the two religions.
Among followers of Judaism, Jesus is viewed as having been the most influential, and consequently the most damaging, of all false messiahs.[1] However, since the traditional Jewish belief is that the messiah has not yet come and the Messianic Age is not yet present, the total rejection of Jesus as either messiah or deity has never been a central issue for Judaism.

Judaism has never accepted any of the claimed fulfillments of prophecy that Christianity attributes to Jesus. Judaism also forbids the worship of a person as a form of idolatry, since the central belief of Judaism is the absolute unity and singularity of God.[2][3] Jewish eschatology holds that the coming of the Messiah will be associated with a specific series of events that have not yet occurred, including the return of Jews to their homeland and the rebuilding of The Temple, a Messianic Age of peace[4] and understanding during which "the knowledge of God" fills the earth,[5] and since Jews believe that none of these events occurred during the lifetime of Jesus (nor have they occurred afterwards), he is not a candidate for messiah.
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

In actual fact, the term has been in use since the early 19th Century. The first recorded use of the term is by a Xtian missionary named Alexander McCaul who used it to describe Jews that he had personally converted to Xtianity. Nietzsche (a virulent anti-Semite) used the term (Judenchristlich) disparagingly to describe what he saw as Jewish influences on Xtian morality.

The modern usage of the word began in the 1940s as a response to Nazi Antisemitism to highlight the fact that Western morality has its origins in both Jewish and Xtian traditions.

As for the fact that there is no way to be both Xtian and Jewish, I wholeheartedly agree. There is not way to simultaneously be a Xtian and a Jew ... their doctrines are wholly incompatible.
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.
You are making an argument of semantics.
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.

To understand the term Judeo-Christian it requires the ability to grasp subtly and nuance. Perhaps that is the reason for your confusion. No, christians and Jews are not the same but they share a common origin (Jesus was a Jew) and many common values.

No. Jesus was a Jew, but he had nothing to do with the development of that religion. The rules of Judaism were set long before he as born.

I didn't say Jesus developed Judaism, but as a Jew he is responsible for Christianity. Nobody thinks Jesus developed Judaism since the religion was around 1000 years before he lived.
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.

To understand the term Judeo-Christian it requires the ability to grasp subtly and nuance. Perhaps that is the reason for your confusion. No, christians and Jews are not the same but they share a common origin (Jesus was a Jew) and many common values.

No. Jesus was a Jew, but he had nothing to do with the development of that religion. The rules of Judaism were set long before he as born.

I didn't say Jesus developed Judaism, but as a Jew he is responsible for Christianity. Nobody thinks Jesus developed Judaism since the religion was around 1000 years before he lived.

I am a jew-----I do not blame Jesus for Christianity-------I blame CONSTANTINE.
He exploited that which was little more than a "side split" of Judaism for use
as an UNIFYING EMPIRE CREED and he TAYLORED it to his own needs On the other hand-----muhummad probably
invented islam as his own cult. ( in fact just what muhummad invented is not
all that well known----the Koran was not written until more than 100 years after he died)
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.

To understand the term Judeo-Christian it requires the ability to grasp subtly and nuance. Perhaps that is the reason for your confusion. No, christians and Jews are not the same but they share a common origin (Jesus was a Jew) and many common values.

No. Jesus was a Jew, but he had nothing to do with the development of that religion. The rules of Judaism were set long before he as born.

I didn't say Jesus developed Judaism, but as a Jew he is responsible for Christianity. Nobody thinks Jesus developed Judaism since the religion was around 1000 years before he lived.

His being a Jew had nothing to do with the development of Christianity. The religious beliefs are exact opposites of each other in so many ways. The only connection between the two is that they were both practiced a long time ago.
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.

To understand the term Judeo-Christian it requires the ability to grasp subtly and nuance. Perhaps that is the reason for your confusion. No, christians and Jews are not the same but they share a common origin (Jesus was a Jew) and many common values.

No. Jesus was a Jew, but he had nothing to do with the development of that religion. The rules of Judaism were set long before he as born.

I didn't say Jesus developed Judaism, but as a Jew he is responsible for Christianity. Nobody thinks Jesus developed Judaism since the religion was around 1000 years before he lived.

His being a Jew had nothing to do with the development of Christianity. The religious beliefs are exact opposites of each other in so many ways. The only connection between the two is that they were both practiced a long time ago.

wrong----the fact that Jesus was a Pharisee jew ---an adherent of the school of
HILLEL has lots to do with many aspects of the eventual shape of some forms
of Christianity. The sects that his Pharisee Judaism did not touch include
Catholicism and the Eastern Orthodox sect. "exact opposites" ??? nope----
not even close
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.
A born again Believer is a son or daughter of Abraham. As I am a Believer and follower of Jesus Christ I have been adopted into the family of God, justified by faith, and am a daughter of Abraham and therein a Jew. The Scriptures confirm this.

It is written:
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Romans 2:28-29
 
That's a political term, invented by Jews, to gain support for themselves from Christian Americans.

You are either Jew or Christian, there is no in between, there is no being both.

As far as common roots, that is meaningless. On a long enough timeline going back, we all have common roots. That doesn't mean we are the same now.

To understand the term Judeo-Christian it requires the ability to grasp subtly and nuance. Perhaps that is the reason for your confusion. No, christians and Jews are not the same but they share a common origin (Jesus was a Jew) and many common values.

No. Jesus was a Jew, but he had nothing to do with the development of that religion. The rules of Judaism were set long before he as born.

I didn't say Jesus developed Judaism, but as a Jew he is responsible for Christianity. Nobody thinks Jesus developed Judaism since the religion was around 1000 years before he lived.

His being a Jew had nothing to do with the development of Christianity. The religious beliefs are exact opposites of each other in so many ways. The only connection between the two is that they were both practiced a long time ago.

wrong----the fact that Jesus was a Pharisee jew ---an adherent of the school of
HILLEL has lots to do with many aspects of the eventual shape of some forms
of Christianity. The sects that his Pharisee Judaism did not touch include
Catholicism and the Eastern Orthodox sect. "exact opposites" ??? nope----
not even close

Really? So what intermediary do Jews accept as the only way for a connection to God? That is the main tenant of Christianity. Jews see Jesus as a false Messiah, not the one and only way to get to heaven.
 

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