These are the facts in evidence. Trumpette's, avert your eyes.

Which is exactly why Zelinsky will never come out and say exactly what happened.
Zelensky said there was nothing. Is he lying?

Yes he is lying. You are seriously wondering why would a drug deal counterpart lie?

Zelensky looks like a weak, corruptable doormat Trump is wiping his feet on in this whole ordeal. He got on all fours and agreed to give Trump the full illicit service, with a put-on smile no less.
Amazing. So everyone is lying except for Democrats. Hahaha.
Well, for starters, he’s not under oath and can’t be cross examined, so maybe if he were to do so, it’d be a little different.

But we certainly all can understand if Zelinsky is being less than truthful here.
he submitted answers to questions from Mueller. he provided documents, he's released all of the documents. only a fool like Clinton goes in and testifies in an ambush.
You’re confused. Go away until you can follow a conversation without having to be corrected.
 
Let me say from the outset I fully understand Trumpette's are not typically persuaded by facts.

Congress authorized $391M in aid to Ukraine at the end of 2018. $250M under the control of the DoD and $141M under the control of the Dept. of State.

July 3.........Lt. Col. Vindman testified that is the date when he learned a hold on the aid had been put on.

July 10.......During a meeting at the WH Gordo Sondland makes Ukrainian officials aware Zelensky will only get a WH meeting w/ Donzo the Clown if he agrees to launch investigations in to the Biden's. Bolton tells Fiona Hill to report this to the NSC lawyer.

July 18........In a secure call with national security officials, a staff member of the WH OMB announces there’s a freeze on Ukraine aid until further notice, based on a presidential order to the budget office.
Trump’s Hold on Ukrainian Military Aid was Illegal


July 25.........the "perfect" call. Immediately after Zelensky offers to buy more military weapons Trump replies by saying "I would like you to do us a favor though" and proceeds to ask Zelensky to look in to the batshyte crazy conspiracy theory about the Crowdstrike server and later to work with Slimy Rudy in investigating the Biden's.
FEC chairwoman reiterates illegality of soliciting campaign help from foreign governments

Two US officials, Catherine Croft and Laura Cooper, have testified that as early as July 25 Ukraine officials expressed concern over the military aid they knew had been approved. “On July 25, a member of my staff got a question from a Ukraine embassy contact asking what was going on with Ukraine security assistance,” Cooper testified.

Aug. 12.......A whistleblower files a formal complaint addressed to Congress that details concerns over the July 25 phone call and the hold placed on the military aid. The complaint is withheld from Congress until Sept. 25. At some point after the call was made alarmed WH and national security officials, including John Eisenberg, make the decision to use a code level secure server to hide.......sorry.........store.......sorry......hide the transcript of the call even though it contains nothing of national security import to justify such a measure. The DoJ is notified of a criminal referral issued by the CIA's top lawyer regarding the call. Despite the obvious violation of the law prohibiting the solicitation of election assistance from a foreign country Billy the Bagman determines the call is no problemo.

Congressional testimony from Sondland, Hill, Vindman, Taylor, Cooper, Volker all corroborate the fact that diplomatic officials were aware the assistance to Ukraine would be held up until an announcement was made by Ukraine that the investigations Trump wanted were being initiated. Sondland testified that...... “Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.” He went on to say.......“Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

Various WH officials such as................
with_rrlss.png


could offer more details but their testimony is being illegally blocked by the imposition of a claim that does not exist in law, "blanket privilege" for any and all WH officials the prez sees fit to block.

Once the WH became aware Trump had been caught they released the military aid and an edited copy of the call transcript cuz...............what else could they do?

In a nutshell, Trump put a hold on military assistance to use as leverage in order to get Zelensky to agree to announce Ukraine would investigate a political rival of Don's who at the time was the front runner to get the Dem nomination to run for the presidency............breaking two laws.

You have provided no reason to read past the first sentence.
It's not uncommon for Trumpette's to feel uncomfortable reading factual material. It's extremely disorienting given the construct built on a foundation of lies they have adopted. Apparently you are no exception.


Um
You are retarded.
 
Zelensky said there was nothing. Is he lying?

Yes he is lying. You are seriously wondering why would a drug deal counterpart lie?

Zelensky looks like a weak, corruptable doormat Trump is wiping his feet on in this whole ordeal. He got on all fours and agreed to give Trump the full illicit service, with a put-on smile no less.
Amazing. So everyone is lying except for Democrats. Hahaha.

Thats bullshit, plenty examples of Republicans like Hill and Sondland testifying to corrupt bussiness.

Gavno. Antosha is a leftist idiot.

Looks like I forgot to add you to ignore list. Lets fix that.

I accept your surrender
 
Zelensky said there was nothing. Is he lying?

Yes he is lying. You are seriously wondering why would a drug deal counterpart lie?

Zelensky looks like a weak, corruptable doormat Trump is wiping his feet on in this whole ordeal. He got on all fours and agreed to give Trump the full illicit service, with a put-on smile no less.
Amazing. So everyone is lying except for Democrats. Hahaha.
Well, for starters, he’s not under oath and can’t be cross examined, so maybe if he were to do so, it’d be a little different.

But we certainly all can understand if Zelinsky is being less than truthful here.
he submitted answers to questions from Mueller. he provided documents, he's released all of the documents. only a fool like Clinton goes in and testifies in an ambush.
You’re confused. Go away until you can follow a conversation without having to be corrected.
so none of that was fact? hmmmmm I think sooooooo. what's a matter little man?
 
So now you have ESP? Could it be that Zelinsky is telling the truth? Is that a possibility? Yes or No?
Sure. Is it a possibility that he’s not, just as likely in my book.

That’s why I wouldn’t use his statement as evidence of anything.

Should we not assume that people are telling the truth. If we think the President of the country is lying then how can we do business with them?
Why would you assume people are telling the truth?

Our president lies all the time, seems everyone expects to do business with us.

That is a terrible way to live. To me this is not impeachable but it is informative and voters should decide. If DJT had a private call with Zelinsky and mentioned that he wanted to smear Biden as he was his biggest challenge in 2020 then he should be impeached for sure. There you have overt intent and self serving request. In the phone call, Trump used the pronouns of "us" and "our country".
Oh stop. You don’t believe everything you hear either. You just believe everything you hear that you want to be true.
we believe facts. post one someday
 
Yes he is lying. You are seriously wondering why would a drug deal counterpart lie?

Zelensky looks like a weak, corruptable doormat Trump is wiping his feet on in this whole ordeal. He got on all fours and agreed to give Trump the full illicit service, with a put-on smile no less.
Amazing. So everyone is lying except for Democrats. Hahaha.
Well, for starters, he’s not under oath and can’t be cross examined, so maybe if he were to do so, it’d be a little different.

But we certainly all can understand if Zelinsky is being less than truthful here.
he submitted answers to questions from Mueller. he provided documents, he's released all of the documents. only a fool like Clinton goes in and testifies in an ambush.
You’re confused. Go away until you can follow a conversation without having to be corrected.
so none of that was fact? hmmmmm I think sooooooo. what's a matter little man?
It’s irrelevant to the current conversation. Go back and read before you respond, buddy boy.
 
So now you have ESP? Could it be that Zelinsky is telling the truth? Is that a possibility? Yes or No?
Sure. Is it a possibility that he’s not, just as likely in my book.

That’s why I wouldn’t use his statement as evidence of anything.

Should we not assume that people are telling the truth. If we think the President of the country is lying then how can we do business with them?
Why would you assume people are telling the truth?

Our president lies all the time, seems everyone expects to do business with us.

That is a terrible way to live. To me this is not impeachable but it is informative and voters should decide. If DJT had a private call with Zelinsky and mentioned that he wanted to smear Biden as he was his biggest challenge in 2020 then he should be impeached for sure. There you have overt intent and self serving request. In the phone call, Trump used the pronouns of "us" and "our country".
Oh stop. You don’t believe everything you hear either. You just believe everything you hear that you want to be true.

Let me ask you this. Do you believe there was Nepotism with Burisma and the Bidens? Do you believe Ukraine was overtly corrupt when Hunter took that gig? Do you believe Trump has the right to be concerned given the report from Horowitz? To me none of this is impeachable. Let the people decide.

To me, these hearings demonstrate beyond any doubt. that the criteria for impeachment has not been met. This is basically a call of whether you agree or disagree with how Trump handled Ukraine. Those are reasonable bases deciding who to vote for, but nothing I've seen during these weeks of the impeachment testimony has moved the ball at all toward impeachment. If he is impeached it will be partisan, which is not what it should be.
 
Amazing. So everyone is lying except for Democrats. Hahaha.
Well, for starters, he’s not under oath and can’t be cross examined, so maybe if he were to do so, it’d be a little different.

But we certainly all can understand if Zelinsky is being less than truthful here.
he submitted answers to questions from Mueller. he provided documents, he's released all of the documents. only a fool like Clinton goes in and testifies in an ambush.
You’re confused. Go away until you can follow a conversation without having to be corrected.
so none of that was fact? hmmmmm I think sooooooo. what's a matter little man?
It’s irrelevant to the current conversation. Go back and read before you respond, buddy boy.
how so? he presented the transcript. what else did you need? again, he isn't a fool like Clinton, and walk into an ambush. you're hilarious to think anyone would ever do that again.
 
Sure. Is it a possibility that he’s not, just as likely in my book.

That’s why I wouldn’t use his statement as evidence of anything.

Should we not assume that people are telling the truth. If we think the President of the country is lying then how can we do business with them?
Why would you assume people are telling the truth?

Our president lies all the time, seems everyone expects to do business with us.

That is a terrible way to live. To me this is not impeachable but it is informative and voters should decide. If DJT had a private call with Zelinsky and mentioned that he wanted to smear Biden as he was his biggest challenge in 2020 then he should be impeached for sure. There you have overt intent and self serving request. In the phone call, Trump used the pronouns of "us" and "our country".
Oh stop. You don’t believe everything you hear either. You just believe everything you hear that you want to be true.
we believe facts. post one someday
You’re little more than childish taunts and Trump programming.

I could write an algorithm that would give me the same results as your participating in this thread.
 
Yes he is lying. You are seriously wondering why would a drug deal counterpart lie?

Zelensky looks like a weak, corruptable doormat Trump is wiping his feet on in this whole ordeal. He got on all fours and agreed to give Trump the full illicit service, with a put-on smile no less.
Amazing. So everyone is lying except for Democrats. Hahaha.

Thats bullshit, plenty examples of Republicans like Hill and Sondland testifying to corrupt bussiness.

Gavno. Antosha is a leftist idiot.

Looks like I forgot to add you to ignore list. Lets fix that.

I accept your surrender
Do people ever comment on your pointy ears?
 
Should we not assume that people are telling the truth. If we think the President of the country is lying then how can we do business with them?
Why would you assume people are telling the truth?

Our president lies all the time, seems everyone expects to do business with us.

That is a terrible way to live. To me this is not impeachable but it is informative and voters should decide. If DJT had a private call with Zelinsky and mentioned that he wanted to smear Biden as he was his biggest challenge in 2020 then he should be impeached for sure. There you have overt intent and self serving request. In the phone call, Trump used the pronouns of "us" and "our country".
Oh stop. You don’t believe everything you hear either. You just believe everything you hear that you want to be true.
we believe facts. post one someday
You’re little more than childish taunts and Trump programming.

I could write an algorithm that would give me the same results as your participating in this thread.
and all factual, and for all reading, you have yet to provide. we're still waiting.
 
Should we not assume that people are telling the truth. If we think the President of the country is lying then how can we do business with them?
Why would you assume people are telling the truth?

Our president lies all the time, seems everyone expects to do business with us.

That is a terrible way to live. To me this is not impeachable but it is informative and voters should decide. If DJT had a private call with Zelinsky and mentioned that he wanted to smear Biden as he was his biggest challenge in 2020 then he should be impeached for sure. There you have overt intent and self serving request. In the phone call, Trump used the pronouns of "us" and "our country".
Oh stop. You don’t believe everything you hear either. You just believe everything you hear that you want to be true.
we believe facts. post one someday
You’re little more than childish taunts and Trump programming.

I could write an algorithm that would give me the same results as your participating in this thread.

What state do you live in?
 
Amazing. So everyone is lying except for Democrats. Hahaha.

Thats bullshit, plenty examples of Republicans like Hill and Sondland testifying to corrupt bussiness.

Gavno. Antosha is a leftist idiot.

Looks like I forgot to add you to ignore list. Lets fix that.

I accept your surrender
Do people ever comment on your pointy ears?
naw, we just comment on your stupidity.
 
Amazing. So everyone is lying except for Democrats. Hahaha.

Thats bullshit, plenty examples of Republicans like Hill and Sondland testifying to corrupt bussiness.

Gavno. Antosha is a leftist idiot.

Looks like I forgot to add you to ignore list. Lets fix that.

I accept your surrender
Do people ever comment on your pointy ears?

Only if they don't value their health. Are you Jewish? Why are you scared to answer?
 
Why would you assume people are telling the truth?

Our president lies all the time, seems everyone expects to do business with us.

That is a terrible way to live. To me this is not impeachable but it is informative and voters should decide. If DJT had a private call with Zelinsky and mentioned that he wanted to smear Biden as he was his biggest challenge in 2020 then he should be impeached for sure. There you have overt intent and self serving request. In the phone call, Trump used the pronouns of "us" and "our country".
Oh stop. You don’t believe everything you hear either. You just believe everything you hear that you want to be true.
we believe facts. post one someday
You’re little more than childish taunts and Trump programming.

I could write an algorithm that would give me the same results as your participating in this thread.

What state do you live in?
I don't think he's a US american.
 
That is a terrible way to live. To me this is not impeachable but it is informative and voters should decide. If DJT had a private call with Zelinsky and mentioned that he wanted to smear Biden as he was his biggest challenge in 2020 then he should be impeached for sure. There you have overt intent and self serving request. In the phone call, Trump used the pronouns of "us" and "our country".
Oh stop. You don’t believe everything you hear either. You just believe everything you hear that you want to be true.
we believe facts. post one someday
You’re little more than childish taunts and Trump programming.

I could write an algorithm that would give me the same results as your participating in this thread.

What state do you live in?
I don't think he's a US american.

Oh I know. I am curious if he will respond honestly, since his diatribe is all about honesty.
 
Oh stop. You don’t believe everything you hear either. You just believe everything you hear that you want to be true.
we believe facts. post one someday
You’re little more than childish taunts and Trump programming.

I could write an algorithm that would give me the same results as your participating in this thread.

What state do you live in?
I don't think he's a US american.

Oh I know. I am curious if he will respond honestly, since his diatribe is all about honesty.
Perhaps it's a good time to refresh your memory as to the subject matter.

Congress authorized $391M in aid to Ukraine at the end of 2018. $250M under the control of the DoD and $141M under the control of the Dept. of State.

July 3.........Lt. Col. Vindman testified that is the date when he learned a hold on the aid had been put on.

July 10.......During a meeting at the WH Gordo Sondland makes Ukrainian officials aware Zelensky will only get a WH meeting w/ Donzo the Clown if he agrees to launch investigations in to the Biden's. Bolton tells Fiona Hill to report this to the NSC lawyer.

July 18........In a secure call with national security officials, a staff member of the WH OMB announces there’s a freeze on Ukraine aid until further notice, based on a presidential order to the budget office.
Trump’s Hold on Ukrainian Military Aid was Illegal


July 25.........the "perfect" call. Immediately after Zelensky offers to buy more military weapons Trump replies by saying "I would like you to do us a favor though" and proceeds to ask Zelensky to look in to the batshyte crazy conspiracy theory about the Crowdstrike server and later to work with Slimy Rudy in investigating the Biden's.
FEC chairwoman reiterates illegality of soliciting campaign help from foreign governments

Two US officials, Catherine Croft and Laura Cooper, have testified that as early as July 25 Ukraine officials expressed concern over the military aid they knew had been approved. “On July 25, a member of my staff got a question from a Ukraine embassy contact asking what was going on with Ukraine security assistance,” Cooper testified.

Aug. 12.......A whistleblower files a formal complaint addressed to Congress that details concerns over the July 25 phone call and the hold placed on the military aid. The complaint is withheld from Congress until Sept. 25. At some point after the call was made alarmed WH and national security officials, including John Eisenberg, make the decision to use a code level secure server to hide.......sorry.........store.......sorry......hide the transcript of the call even though it contains nothing of national security import to justify such a measure. The DoJ is notified of a criminal referral issued by the CIA's top lawyer regarding the call. Despite the obvious violation of the law prohibiting the solicitation of election assistance from a foreign country Billy the Bagman determines the call is no problemo.

Congressional testimony from Sondland, Hill, Vindman, Taylor, Cooper, Volker all corroborate the fact that diplomatic officials were aware the assistance to Ukraine would be held up until an announcement was made by Ukraine that the investigations Trump wanted were being initiated. Sondland testified that...... “Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.” He went on to say.......“Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

Various WH officials such as................
with_rrlss.png


could offer more details but their testimony is being illegally blocked by the imposition of a claim that does not exist in law, "blanket privilege" for any and all WH officials the prez sees fit to block.

Once the WH became aware Trump had been caught they released the military aid and an edited copy of the call transcript cuz...............what else could they do?

In a nutshell, Trump put a hold on military assistance to use as leverage in order to get Zelensky to agree to announce Ukraine would investigate a political rival of Don's who at the time was the front runner to get the Dem nomination to run for the presidency............breaking two laws.
 
Let me say from the outset I fully understand Trumpette's are not typically persuaded by facts.

Congress authorized $391M in aid to Ukraine at the end of 2018. $250M under the control of the DoD and $141M under the control of the Dept. of State.

July 3.........Lt. Col. Vindman testified that is the date when he learned a hold on the aid had been put on.

July 10.......During a meeting at the WH Gordo Sondland makes Ukrainian officials aware Zelensky will only get a WH meeting w/ Donzo the Clown if he agrees to launch investigations in to the Biden's. Bolton tells Fiona Hill to report this to the NSC lawyer.

July 18........In a secure call with national security officials, a staff member of the WH OMB announces there’s a freeze on Ukraine aid until further notice, based on a presidential order to the budget office.
Trump’s Hold on Ukrainian Military Aid was Illegal


July 25.........the "perfect" call. Immediately after Zelensky offers to buy more military weapons Trump replies by saying "I would like you to do us a favor though" and proceeds to ask Zelensky to look in to the batshyte crazy conspiracy theory about the Crowdstrike server and later to work with Slimy Rudy in investigating the Biden's.
FEC chairwoman reiterates illegality of soliciting campaign help from foreign governments

Two US officials, Catherine Croft and Laura Cooper, have testified that as early as July 25 Ukraine officials expressed concern over the military aid they knew had been approved. “On July 25, a member of my staff got a question from a Ukraine embassy contact asking what was going on with Ukraine security assistance,” Cooper testified.

Aug. 12.......A whistleblower files a formal complaint addressed to Congress that details concerns over the July 25 phone call and the hold placed on the military aid. The complaint is withheld from Congress until Sept. 25. At some point after the call was made alarmed WH and national security officials, including John Eisenberg, make the decision to use a code level secure server to hide.......sorry.........store.......sorry......hide the transcript of the call even though it contains nothing of national security import to justify such a measure. The DoJ is notified of a criminal referral issued by the CIA's top lawyer regarding the call. Despite the obvious violation of the law prohibiting the solicitation of election assistance from a foreign country Billy the Bagman determines the call is no problemo.

Congressional testimony from Sondland, Hill, Vindman, Taylor, Cooper, Volker all corroborate the fact that diplomatic officials were aware the assistance to Ukraine would be held up until an announcement was made by Ukraine that the investigations Trump wanted were being initiated. Sondland testified that...... “Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.” He went on to say.......“Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

Various WH officials such as................
with_rrlss.png


could offer more details but their testimony is being illegally blocked by the imposition of a claim that does not exist in law, "blanket privilege" for any and all WH officials the prez sees fit to block.

Once the WH became aware Trump had been caught they released the military aid and an edited copy of the call transcript cuz...............what else could they do?

In a nutshell, Trump put a hold on military assistance to use as leverage in order to get Zelensky to agree to announce Ukraine would investigate a political rival of Don's who at the time was the front runner to get the Dem nomination to run for the presidency............breaking two laws.
Trump isn't going to be removed from office. FACT.
Which is exactly why Zelinsky will never come out and say exactly what happened.
Zelensky said there was nothing. Is he lying?
Possibly. One could hardly blame him if he is. The fate of lives and his country could be in jeopardy.
So should Trump be impeached on a "Possibly"?
 
we believe facts. post one someday
You’re little more than childish taunts and Trump programming.

I could write an algorithm that would give me the same results as your participating in this thread.

What state do you live in?
I don't think he's a US american.

Oh I know. I am curious if he will respond honestly, since his diatribe is all about honesty.
Perhaps it's a good time to refresh your memory as to the subject matter.

Congress authorized $391M in aid to Ukraine at the end of 2018. $250M under the control of the DoD and $141M under the control of the Dept. of State.

July 3.........Lt. Col. Vindman testified that is the date when he learned a hold on the aid had been put on.

July 10.......During a meeting at the WH Gordo Sondland makes Ukrainian officials aware Zelensky will only get a WH meeting w/ Donzo the Clown if he agrees to launch investigations in to the Biden's. Bolton tells Fiona Hill to report this to the NSC lawyer.

July 18........In a secure call with national security officials, a staff member of the WH OMB announces there’s a freeze on Ukraine aid until further notice, based on a presidential order to the budget office.
Trump’s Hold on Ukrainian Military Aid was Illegal


July 25.........the "perfect" call. Immediately after Zelensky offers to buy more military weapons Trump replies by saying "I would like you to do us a favor though" and proceeds to ask Zelensky to look in to the batshyte crazy conspiracy theory about the Crowdstrike server and later to work with Slimy Rudy in investigating the Biden's.
FEC chairwoman reiterates illegality of soliciting campaign help from foreign governments

Two US officials, Catherine Croft and Laura Cooper, have testified that as early as July 25 Ukraine officials expressed concern over the military aid they knew had been approved. “On July 25, a member of my staff got a question from a Ukraine embassy contact asking what was going on with Ukraine security assistance,” Cooper testified.

Aug. 12.......A whistleblower files a formal complaint addressed to Congress that details concerns over the July 25 phone call and the hold placed on the military aid. The complaint is withheld from Congress until Sept. 25. At some point after the call was made alarmed WH and national security officials, including John Eisenberg, make the decision to use a code level secure server to hide.......sorry.........store.......sorry......hide the transcript of the call even though it contains nothing of national security import to justify such a measure. The DoJ is notified of a criminal referral issued by the CIA's top lawyer regarding the call. Despite the obvious violation of the law prohibiting the solicitation of election assistance from a foreign country Billy the Bagman determines the call is no problemo.

Congressional testimony from Sondland, Hill, Vindman, Taylor, Cooper, Volker all corroborate the fact that diplomatic officials were aware the assistance to Ukraine would be held up until an announcement was made by Ukraine that the investigations Trump wanted were being initiated. Sondland testified that...... “Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.” He went on to say.......“Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

Various WH officials such as................
with_rrlss.png


could offer more details but their testimony is being illegally blocked by the imposition of a claim that does not exist in law, "blanket privilege" for any and all WH officials the prez sees fit to block.

Once the WH became aware Trump had been caught they released the military aid and an edited copy of the call transcript cuz...............what else could they do?

In a nutshell, Trump put a hold on military assistance to use as leverage in order to get Zelensky to agree to announce Ukraine would investigate a political rival of Don's who at the time was the front runner to get the Dem nomination to run for the presidency............breaking two laws.
so the only question you have to answer here is this, does a president have authority to hold aid? yes or no?
 
lol thats because they are not FACING JAIL TIME FOR LYING TO CONGRESS like Sondland. They litteraly have no downside to lie their ass off and all the downsides of Trump's ire if they tell the truth.
Who again, beside Comey, Strzok, McCabe, have been recommended for Indictment by the US IG? Hmmmm.... Nope. Can't think of anyone else.

Dummy, Roger Stone is going to jail for lying to Congress as we speak. Cohen is already there.

Roger Stone, former Trump campaign adviser, found guilty on all charges


Your posting is an infinite facepalm fest.
Neither of them are going to jail for any crime connected to Trump or false accusations by Dems...but Dems have been recommended for Indictment for crimes going after Trump....

Poor snowflake...
 

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