They had the "American Dream" but gave it all up for jihad

[Blackrook]

Photos, toys and Muslim books seen inside San Bernardino killers' home

Another explanation for why we can't assume terrorists are angry young men with no career prospects.

This couple had a child which they dropped off at grannie's while then went of and got themselves killed.

They had everything a young couple can have, and they threw it away, and now their baby is an orphan.

 

[Asclepias]

Photos, toys and Muslim books seen inside San Bernardino killers' home

Another explanation for why we can't assume terrorists are angry young men with no career prospects.

This couple had a child which they dropped off at grannie's while then went of and got themselves killed.

They had everything a young couple can have, and they threw it away, and now their baby is an orphan.

Another thing that doesnt add up. I hate to get conspiratorial but this is weird.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Well, religion is a very overwhelming and compelling thing to many and when the book (the Quran) which is the basis of the religion, clearly and vividly demands that you kill all those who do not convert or obey their religious laws, it is no surprise when the followers rise up and start doing as ordered by their false prophet.

 

[PK1]

Well, religion is a very overwhelming and compelling thing to many and when the book (the Quran) which is the basis of the religion, clearly and vividly demands that you kill all those who do not convert or obey their religious laws, it is no surprise when the followers rise up and start doing as ordered by their false prophet.

---
It's not that simple. In order to understand the behaviors, we must isolate the key long-term motivators.
The DIFFERENTIATORS that lead individuals to ACTION.
There are other young Muslims who are sympathetic to ISIS crapology, but would not do the acts we witnessed in SoCal.
And then there are over a BILLION other Muslims who are non-violent and abhor what those 2 cold-blooded assholes did.
.

 

[Rotagilla]

The problem with letting all those reporters in to a crime scene is that they contaminated the evidence and now NONE of it will be admissable....a slick trick to derail the "investigation"...and we'll never know where or how deep the muzzie terrorists connections run...
why in the holy fuck did the fbi allow that to happen? an active crime scene and reporters are allowed in to rummage through evidence? No police tape, no cop on duty to preserve the evidence....amazing....

fbi = For Barrys Interests

 

[Tilly]

Well, religion is a very overwhelming and compelling thing to many and when the book (the Quran) which is the basis of the religion, clearly and vividly demands that you kill all those who do not convert or obey their religious laws, it is no surprise when the followers rise up and start doing as ordered by their false prophet.

---
It's not that simple. In order to understand the behaviors, we must isolate the key long-term motivators.
The DIFFERENTIATORS that lead individuals to ACTION.
There are other young Muslims who are sympathetic to ISIS crapology, but would not do the acts we witnessed in SoCal.
And then there are over a BILLION other Muslims who are non-violent and abhor what those 2 cold-blooded assholes did.
.

How do you know over a billion Muslims abhor what the two cold blooded assholes did?

 

[eagle1462010]

Once they go Radical Jihad, they can never go back to sanity.............

Radical Islam is where Insanity Reigns................I heard that the male shooter had just gotten back from Saudi Arabia.......don't know if this is true........but Obviously he went to RADICAL ISLAM, where as Roudy says...........Brain Cells go to Die..............good quote from Roudy........I've always liked that one.

 

[percysunshine]

Well, religion is a very overwhelming and compelling thing to many and when the book (the Quran) which is the basis of the religion, clearly and vividly demands that you kill all those who do not convert or obey their religious laws, it is no surprise when the followers rise up and start doing as ordered by their false prophet.

---
It's not that simple. In order to understand the behaviors, we must isolate the key long-term motivators.
The DIFFERENTIATORS that lead individuals to ACTION.
There are other young Muslims who are sympathetic to ISIS crapology, but would not do the acts we witnessed in SoCal.
And then there are over a BILLION other Muslims who are non-violent and abhor what those 2 cold-blooded assholes did.
.

How do you know over a billion Muslims abhor what the two cold blooded assholes did?

.
PK1 is an extra-terrestrial and can read a billion minds all at once?

.

 

[Tilly]

Well, religion is a very overwhelming and compelling thing to many and when the book (the Quran) which is the basis of the religion, clearly and vividly demands that you kill all those who do not convert or obey their religious laws, it is no surprise when the followers rise up and start doing as ordered by their false prophet.

---
It's not that simple. In order to understand the behaviors, we must isolate the key long-term motivators.
The DIFFERENTIATORS that lead individuals to ACTION.
There are other young Muslims who are sympathetic to ISIS crapology, but would not do the acts we witnessed in SoCal.
And then there are over a BILLION other Muslims who are non-violent and abhor what those 2 cold-blooded assholes did.
.

How do you know over a billion Muslims abhor what the two cold blooded assholes did?

.
PK1 is an extra-terrestrial and can read a billion minds all at once?

.

lol. We do seem to have a lot of psychics on here who invariably 'know' what billions of Muslims think. Al taqqyia and kitman mean that even if you could interview each one of the billion, only an idiot would presume to definitely know what they 'think', imho.

 

[jillian]

Photos, toys and Muslim books seen inside San Bernardino killers' home

Another explanation for why we can't assume terrorists are angry young men with no career prospects.

This couple had a child which they dropped off at grannie's while then went of and got themselves killed.

They had everything a young couple can have, and they threw it away, and now their baby is an orphan.

an orphan who will be hated because of what her parents did.

they're going to have to move and change this kid's name.

 

[jillian]

Well, religion is a very overwhelming and compelling thing to many and when the book (the Quran) which is the basis of the religion, clearly and vividly demands that you kill all those who do not convert or obey their religious laws, it is no surprise when the followers rise up and start doing as ordered by their false prophet.

---
It's not that simple. In order to understand the behaviors, we must isolate the key long-term motivators.
The DIFFERENTIATORS that lead individuals to ACTION.
There are other young Muslims who are sympathetic to ISIS crapology, but would not do the acts we witnessed in SoCal.
And then there are over a BILLION other Muslims who are non-violent and abhor what those 2 cold-blooded assholes did.
.

How do you know over a billion Muslims abhor what the two cold blooded assholes did?

.
PK1 is an extra-terrestrial and can read a billion minds all at once?

.

funny how you didn't address his point.

well, not funny.... typical.

the reality is most don't support violence and you can't blow up a billion people to get a small percentage who are terrorists. when you do that, they just make more...

 

[Tilly]

Photos, toys and Muslim books seen inside San Bernardino killers' home

Another explanation for why we can't assume terrorists are angry young men with no career prospects.

This couple had a child which they dropped off at grannie's while then went of and got themselves killed.

They had everything a young couple can have, and they threw it away, and now their baby is an orphan.

an orphan who will be hated because of what her parents did.

they're going to have to move and change this kid's name.

How many Americans are going to 'hate' a baby?
They might wonder how the parents raised a jihadi psychopath on US soil, of course.

 

[Tilly]

Well, religion is a very overwhelming and compelling thing to many and when the book (the Quran) which is the basis of the religion, clearly and vividly demands that you kill all those who do not convert or obey their religious laws, it is no surprise when the followers rise up and start doing as ordered by their false prophet.

---
It's not that simple. In order to understand the behaviors, we must isolate the key long-term motivators.
The DIFFERENTIATORS that lead individuals to ACTION.
There are other young Muslims who are sympathetic to ISIS crapology, but would not do the acts we witnessed in SoCal.
And then there are over a BILLION other Muslims who are non-violent and abhor what those 2 cold-blooded assholes did.
.

How do you know over a billion Muslims abhor what the two cold blooded assholes did?

.
PK1 is an extra-terrestrial and can read a billion minds all at once?

.

funny how you didn't address his point.

well, not funny.... typical.

the reality is most don't support violence and you can't blow up a billion people to get a small percentage who are terrorists. when you do that, they just make more...

Again, how do you KNOW what most Muslims THINK?

 

[jillian]

Photos, toys and Muslim books seen inside San Bernardino killers' home

Another explanation for why we can't assume terrorists are angry young men with no career prospects.

This couple had a child which they dropped off at grannie's while then went of and got themselves killed.

They had everything a young couple can have, and they threw it away, and now their baby is an orphan.

an orphan who will be hated because of what her parents did.

they're going to have to move and change this kid's name.

How many Americans are going to 'hate' a baby?
They might wonder how the parents raised a jihadi psychopath on US soil, of course.

you know that the kids of ethel and julius rosenberg had huge problems and, in fact, did change their last name, right?

that's what happens.

 

[jillian]

Well, religion is a very overwhelming and compelling thing to many and when the book (the Quran) which is the basis of the religion, clearly and vividly demands that you kill all those who do not convert or obey their religious laws, it is no surprise when the followers rise up and start doing as ordered by their false prophet.

---
It's not that simple. In order to understand the behaviors, we must isolate the key long-term motivators.
The DIFFERENTIATORS that lead individuals to ACTION.
There are other young Muslims who are sympathetic to ISIS crapology, but would not do the acts we witnessed in SoCal.
And then there are over a BILLION other Muslims who are non-violent and abhor what those 2 cold-blooded assholes did.
.

How do you know over a billion Muslims abhor what the two cold blooded assholes did?

.
PK1 is an extra-terrestrial and can read a billion minds all at once?

.

funny how you didn't address his point.

well, not funny.... typical.

the reality is most don't support violence and you can't blow up a billion people to get a small percentage who are terrorists. when you do that, they just make more...

Again, how do you KNOW what most Muslims THINK?

we know that most people are not terrorists.

what's your response? round them all up? yeah, because that worked so well in WWII with japanese americans.

 

[Tilly]

Photos, toys and Muslim books seen inside San Bernardino killers' home

Another explanation for why we can't assume terrorists are angry young men with no career prospects.

This couple had a child which they dropped off at grannie's while then went of and got themselves killed.

They had everything a young couple can have, and they threw it away, and now their baby is an orphan.

an orphan who will be hated because of what her parents did.

they're going to have to move and change this kid's name.

How many Americans are going to 'hate' a baby?
They might wonder how the parents raised a jihadi psychopath on US soil, of course.

you know that the kids of ethel and julius rosenberg had huge problems and, in fact, did change their name, right?

that's what happens.

Maybe their names are changed because they feel their will be shame at being associated with whoever it is you are talking about, personal shame, not based upon others hating them by proxy. If my parents were jihad murdering scum, I wouldn't mind someone changing my name, I believe I wouldn't want to share theirs, given the choice.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Photos, toys and Muslim books seen inside San Bernardino killers' home

Another explanation for why we can't assume terrorists are angry young men with no career prospects.

This couple had a child which they dropped off at grannie's while then went of and got themselves killed.

They had everything a young couple can have, and they threw it away, and now their baby is an orphan.

The American Dream huh?

The American dream is to be told by your president (Bush) and the right wing, how much of a terrorist you are, day in, day out. And then when you decide to become a terrorist, they don't understand it.

 

[Tilly]

---
It's not that simple. In order to understand the behaviors, we must isolate the key long-term motivators.
The DIFFERENTIATORS that lead individuals to ACTION.
There are other young Muslims who are sympathetic to ISIS crapology, but would not do the acts we witnessed in SoCal.
And then there are over a BILLION other Muslims who are non-violent and abhor what those 2 cold-blooded assholes did.
.

How do you know over a billion Muslims abhor what the two cold blooded assholes did?

.
PK1 is an extra-terrestrial and can read a billion minds all at once?

.

funny how you didn't address his point.

well, not funny.... typical.

the reality is most don't support violence and you can't blow up a billion people to get a small percentage who are terrorists. when you do that, they just make more...

Again, how do you KNOW what most Muslims THINK?

we know that most people are not terrorists.

what's your response? round them all up? yeah, because that worked so well in WWII with japanese americans.

You said that most of them don't support violence, I asked you how you KNOW what most Muslims THINK, the fact that most aren't terrorists does not equate to you KNOWING that MOST do not support violence. Get it?

 

[Tilly]

---
It's not that simple. In order to understand the behaviors, we must isolate the key long-term motivators.
The DIFFERENTIATORS that lead individuals to ACTION.
There are other young Muslims who are sympathetic to ISIS crapology, but would not do the acts we witnessed in SoCal.
And then there are over a BILLION other Muslims who are non-violent and abhor what those 2 cold-blooded assholes did.
.

How do you know over a billion Muslims abhor what the two cold blooded assholes did?

.
PK1 is an extra-terrestrial and can read a billion minds all at once?

.

funny how you didn't address his point.

well, not funny.... typical.

the reality is most don't support violence and you can't blow up a billion people to get a small percentage who are terrorists. when you do that, they just make more...

Again, how do you KNOW what most Muslims THINK?

we know that most people are not terrorists.

what's your response? round them all up? yeah, because that worked so well in WWII with japanese americans.

Stop getting your knickers in a twist, and stop suggesting that I've made any response involving rounding everyone up when i simply asked you to explain how you KNOW what MOST people THINK. Thanks.

 

[Tilly]

Photos, toys and Muslim books seen inside San Bernardino killers' home

Another explanation for why we can't assume terrorists are angry young men with no career prospects.

This couple had a child which they dropped off at grannie's while then went of and got themselves killed.

They had everything a young couple can have, and they threw it away, and now their baby is an orphan.

The American Dream huh?

The American dream is to be told by your president (Bush) and the right wing, how much of a terrorist you are, day in, day out. And then when you decide to become a terrorist, they don't understand it.

Another one who thinks Muslims are so stupid if you tell them they are extremists the members of the religion of peace become extremists and blow us all to kingdom come. You don't have much respect for them, do you?