This 6 minute video sums up the shocking facts of American wealth and inequality

[RKMBrown]

I don't have a problem with inequity if everybody has the right to build their own wealth.

It's when the state prevents them from doing that that there's a problem.

I have a problem when people use government protected monopolies to take money from folks that are supposed to be protected from such monopolies by the government.

 

[RKMBrown]

Who the fuck cares? Nobody is equal, we all have different skills and abilities.

The USA became the world's #1 economy BECAUSE we let people have the freedom to try things for themselves while your Progressive economies are the worlds poorest and need armed guards to keep running and walls to keep the sane and productive from fleeing

I am not suggesting we become equal. I am okay with the idea of a CEO making much more money than a low level employee. However, these stats are insane. This is NOT how it should be. The middle class is shrinking. That is a problem.

Now see, here's your mistake. You're trying to argue nuance. Most of the conservatives on this site (probably in the world) are too fucking stupid to divide any issue into more than black and white. Shades of gray require thought. Know your audience.

You are an asshole.

 

[RKMBrown]

I don't have a problem with inequity if everybody has the right to build their own wealth.

It's when the state prevents them from doing that that there's a problem.

Why do you feel the state prevents some people from building wealth?

Licensing costs and restrictions. Barriers to entry put up by the rich plutocrats to keep the middle class in it's place.

 

[JoeNormal]

I am not suggesting we become equal. I am okay with the idea of a CEO making much more money than a low level employee. However, these stats are insane. This is NOT how it should be. The middle class is shrinking. That is a problem.

Now see, here's your mistake. You're trying to argue nuance. Most of the conservatives on this site (probably in the world) are too fucking stupid to divide any issue into more than black and white. Shades of gray require thought. Know your audience.

You are an asshole.

You've aligned yourself with a bunch of retards if you think so.

 

[Asclepias]

I don't have a problem with inequity if everybody has the right to build their own wealth.

It's when the state prevents them from doing that that there's a problem.

Why do you feel the state prevents some people from building wealth?

Licensing costs and restrictions. Barriers to entry put up by the rich plutocrats to keep the middle class in it's place.

Why do you think that should stop someone if everyone is subject to the same rules? I can operate under an LLC and build wealth at minimal cost.

 

[Billy000]

Who the fuck cares? Nobody is equal, we all have different skills and abilities.

The USA became the world's #1 economy BECAUSE we let people have the freedom to try things for themselves while your Progressive economies are the worlds poorest and need armed guards to keep running and walls to keep the sane and productive from fleeing

I am not suggesting we become equal. I am okay with the idea of a CEO making much more money than a low level employee. However, these stats are insane. This is NOT how it should be. The middle class is shrinking. That is a problem.

Now see, here's your mistake. You're trying to argue nuance. Most of the conservatives on this site (probably in the world) are too fucking stupid to divide any issue into more than black and white. Shades of gray require thought. Know your audience.

Oh tell me about it. It's amazing how many conservatives lack basic critical thinking skills. It really keeps them from fully understanding most political topics.

 

[RKMBrown]

Now see, here's your mistake. You're trying to argue nuance. Most of the conservatives on this site (probably in the world) are too fucking stupid to divide any issue into more than black and white. Shades of gray require thought. Know your audience.

You are an asshole.

You've aligned yourself with a bunch of retards if you think so.

Even retards are capable of determining shades of gray. My dog can do that. You are making up shit to excuse your behavior.

 

[Vox]

Nor is there any evidence to support the theory that socialism improves the economy.

quite to the contrary - there is plenty of evidence that socialism RUINS the economy.

And people. Tens of millions of them. And it still does not work.

 

[kaz]

This "envy" and "jealousy" routine is straight out of Sean Hannity's propaganda playbook

This "Sean" and "Rush" routine is straight out of Obama, Harry and Nancy's propaganda playbook. It's hilarious and shallow how you use a talking point to accuse people of talking points.

And yes, Sean is programming me to be a libertarian because conservatives like to do that. Sure they do, Mike.

and essentially amounts to an empty adolescent argument.

And you're just the adolescent to do it.

 

[JoeNormal]

I am not suggesting we become equal. I am okay with the idea of a CEO making much more money than a low level employee. However, these stats are insane. This is NOT how it should be. The middle class is shrinking. That is a problem.

Now see, here's your mistake. You're trying to argue nuance. Most of the conservatives on this site (probably in the world) are too fucking stupid to divide any issue into more than black and white. Shades of gray require thought. Know your audience.

Oh tell me about it. It's amazing how many conservatives lack basic critical thinking skills. It really keeps them from fully understanding most political topics.

Yeah, it seems futile to try to convince them of anything. I still sometimes try because I think it's important to the state of the country and the world but I'm not very hopeful that anything will come of it.

 

[Vox]

In fact, the exact opposite is demonstrably true.

yep.

 

[koshergrl]

I am not suggesting we become equal. I am okay with the idea of a CEO making much more money than a low level employee. However, these stats are insane. This is NOT how it should be. The middle class is shrinking. That is a problem.

Now see, here's your mistake. You're trying to argue nuance. Most of the conservatives on this site (probably in the world) are too fucking stupid to divide any issue into more than black and white. Shades of gray require thought. Know your audience.

Oh tell me about it. It's amazing how many conservatives lack basic critical thinking skills. It really keeps them from fully understanding most political topics.

haha ironic post is...ironic.

 

[JoeNormal]

You are an asshole.

You've aligned yourself with a bunch of retards if you think so.

Even retards are capable of determining shades of gray. My dog can do that. You are making up shit to excuse your behavior.

Then tell me why every conservative argument comes down to one of two polar opposites.

 

[RKMBrown]

Why do you feel the state prevents some people from building wealth?

Licensing costs and restrictions. Barriers to entry put up by the rich plutocrats to keep the middle class in it's place.

Why do you think that should stop someone if everyone is subject to the same rules? I can operate under an LLC and build wealth at minimal cost.

Let's say a poor person wants to start a restaurant in a city in which he is currently residing. Let's say the competition serves alcohol. Let's say the cost for a license to serve alcohol is 250k. In order for someone to start a restaurant that serves booze, thus would need to start big enough to afford the cost of license, or they would have to compete without serving. Thus giving the larger "richer" competition a big advantage. Hell the rich restaurant could even under charge for food and over charge for booze to try to drive the poor guy out of business.

Same rules... but now the poor guy with no assets to put up has to look for rich investors who will own a part of his business or has to find small niches.

In many cities you can't even get licenses to do certain things, you have to already have one that was given out in the past.

For example, in many cities the cable company is a monopoly handed out by the city council to their chosen rich guy/company.

 

[Asclepias]

I am not suggesting we become equal. I am okay with the idea of a CEO making much more money than a low level employee. However, these stats are insane. This is NOT how it should be. The middle class is shrinking. That is a problem.

Now see, here's your mistake. You're trying to argue nuance. Most of the conservatives on this site (probably in the world) are too fucking stupid to divide any issue into more than black and white. Shades of gray require thought. Know your audience.

Oh tell me about it. It's amazing how many conservatives lack basic critical thinking skills. It really keeps them from fully understanding most political topics.

No need for name calling. Lets stay on track and talk this out.

 

[Vox]

I don't have a problem with inequity if everybody has the right to build their own wealth.

It's when the state prevents them from doing that that there's a problem.

Why do you feel the state prevents some people from building wealth?

interfering too much with regulations and favoritism.
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government should ( theoretically ) be impartial and encourage accumulation of wealth with reasonable taxation and reasonable fair regulations.
it should not encourage dependency and impose reasonable restrictions and requirements on the dependent to get off it as soon as possible.

All of the above is deficiaent in our government

 

[Billy000]

Nor is there any evidence to support the theory that socialism improves the economy.

quite to the contrary - there is plenty of evidence that socialism RUINS the economy.

And people. Tens of millions of them. And it still does not work.

Why are you people even talking about socialism? No one on this thread has said anything about socialism being a good idea.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The problem occurs when the workers who help create that wealth for those who are just a bit harder working or a bit more creative are not compensated fairly. This is something that has been happening for much to long, and it's the reason we are where we are today. Nobody is suggesting that the regular laborer or employee should be compensated at the same rate as the CEO or an upper level manager. But should the CEO be compensated 300 times more than the average worker? In many cases these average workers are college educated with advanced degrees, but the CEO is making 300 times more than them. I should probably also stipulate that there is a big difference between the CEO who actually started the company versus a CEO who was brought in from the outside. If someone starts a business and it is hugely successful, I really don't have any problem with any amount that he/she makes. The thing is that most of the people who are making these crazy amounts of money were not ones who actually started these businesses. What is worse is when they are paid absurd amounts of money when the company actually loses money. In most cases, their compensation isn't even tied to performance and when it is, we then run into a problem where decisions are made strictly on how it will affect profits immediately rather than based on long term growth.

Please dont take this the wrong way. Do you understand the concept that you are not entitled to make X amount of dollars? If you do then you understand that you are paid exactly what you are worth to a company. If I pay an employee more than what he is bringing to the table then I only have myself to blame when I have to later turn around and fire that employee because I am now losing my business. This is all because I broke the rules of running a business. If a person doesn't like or cant get by on what they are being paid they can do only 2 things. Complain about it or get a better job. Ultimately what happens to you in life is solely dictated by your philosophy. It may not seem fair that the wealth is concentrated in the top 1% but you only have the masses to blame for that. The masses make and keep the 1% on top.

The discussion has nothing to do with entitlement. You are missing the point completely. By allowing so much wealth to be concentrated by only a few people, we are destroying our economy. It boggles my mind how supposedly intelligent people cannot see this. If you want to know what leads to socialism, you are seeing it happen right now.

By allowing so much wealth to be concentrated by only a few people, we are destroying our economy.

There's just too much freedom going on around here.
You allowed the rich to earn their money.
We must kill the greedy kulaks, eh comrade?

 

[Billy000]

Now see, here's your mistake. You're trying to argue nuance. Most of the conservatives on this site (probably in the world) are too fucking stupid to divide any issue into more than black and white. Shades of gray require thought. Know your audience.

Oh tell me about it. It's amazing how many conservatives lack basic critical thinking skills. It really keeps them from fully understanding most political topics.

No need for name calling. Lets stay on track and talk this out.

I called no names. I really don't know what else to say about it though.

 

[koshergrl]

Ah, Billy being billy again. When cornered, he pretends he has nothing whatever to do with the topic he has presented.