This 6 minute video sums up the shocking facts of American wealth and inequality

You mean working solutions vs. non-working solutions?

No that really isn't what he means. He means thinking critically. Finding middle ground in logic. Realizing that just because I do not like the state of the country's wealth inequality, it doesn't mean I am against the concept itself of wealth inequality. It's realizing that no one here is against capitalism.

So you're issue is you don't want to talk about solutions, you want to talk about patting everyone on the back for a job well done, no matter what they have done. What you want is platitudes, empty titles, joy, happiness, world peace, an end to world hunger, can't we all just get along,... all that good stuff right?

Yeah that's it. You got me. I don't want to talk about solutions.

Ok here's your solution which I know you will start bitching about. We raise the minimum wage to $9.00 an hour. Will that raise prices? Yes. So be it. Otherwise we will have more and more people relying on the government. That would be worse wouldn't you say?
 
Why are you people even talking about socialism? No one on this thread has said anything about socialism being a good idea.

don't lie. you DO.

the whole premise of your stupid video is wealth EXPROPRIATION and redistribution.

which is a fundamental feature of socialism ( initially, as then there is no wealth)

You people astound me. Are you just ignoring everything I've been saying this entire time or are you really this stupid? I can't even wrap my head around your logic.

One more time: I am not against the CONCEPT of wealth inequality. I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

Try reading slower. You'll catch on.

I keep asking what we should do about it. Do you have a solution?
 
don't lie. you DO.

the whole premise of your stupid video is wealth EXPROPRIATION and redistribution.

which is a fundamental feature of socialism ( initially, as then there is no wealth)

You people astound me. Are you just ignoring everything I've been saying this entire time or are you really this stupid? I can't even wrap my head around your logic.

One more time: I am not against the CONCEPT of wealth inequality. I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

Try reading slower. You'll catch on.

I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

What is the proper amount for the top 1% to control?

Much less than that. Can we at least agree on that?
 
No that really isn't what he means. He means thinking critically. Finding middle ground in logic. Realizing that just because I do not like the state of the country's wealth inequality, it doesn't mean I am against the concept itself of wealth inequality. It's realizing that no one here is against capitalism.

So you're issue is you don't want to talk about solutions, you want to talk about patting everyone on the back for a job well done, no matter what they have done. What you want is platitudes, empty titles, joy, happiness, world peace, an end to world hunger, can't we all just get along,... all that good stuff right?

Yeah that's it. You got me. I don't want to talk about solutions.

Ok here's your solution which I know you will start bitching about. We raise the minimum wage to $9.00 an hour. Will that raise prices? Yes. So be it. Otherwise we will have more and more people relying on the government. That would be worse wouldn't you say?


Don't you think that would also have the effect of some people losing their businesses or firing workers thus putting more people out of work?
 
don't lie. you DO.

the whole premise of your stupid video is wealth EXPROPRIATION and redistribution.

which is a fundamental feature of socialism ( initially, as then there is no wealth)

You people astound me. Are you just ignoring everything I've been saying this entire time or are you really this stupid? I can't even wrap my head around your logic.

One more time: I am not against the CONCEPT of wealth inequality. I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

Try reading slower. You'll catch on.

I keep asking what we should do about it. Do you have a solution?

Yes I do. We raise the minimum wage to at least $9.00 an hour.
 
don't lie. you DO.

the whole premise of your stupid video is wealth EXPROPRIATION and redistribution.

which is a fundamental feature of socialism ( initially, as then there is no wealth)

You people astound me. Are you just ignoring everything I've been saying this entire time or are you really this stupid? I can't even wrap my head around your logic.

One more time: I am not against the CONCEPT of wealth inequality. I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

Try reading slower. You'll catch on.

I keep asking what we should do about it. Do you have a solution?

You nor anybody else on this board is going to DO anything about it , don't kid yourself problems don't get solved by talking about them on Internet message boards, it's just entertainment.
 
You people astound me. Are you just ignoring everything I've been saying this entire time or are you really this stupid? I can't even wrap my head around your logic.

One more time: I am not against the CONCEPT of wealth inequality. I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

Try reading slower. You'll catch on.

I keep asking what we should do about it. Do you have a solution?

Yes I do. We raise the minimum wage to at least $9.00 an hour.

it is not a solution. funny you don't realize that, claiming to be so intelligent.
next.
 
So you're issue is you don't want to talk about solutions, you want to talk about patting everyone on the back for a job well done, no matter what they have done. What you want is platitudes, empty titles, joy, happiness, world peace, an end to world hunger, can't we all just get along,... all that good stuff right?

Yeah that's it. You got me. I don't want to talk about solutions.

Ok here's your solution which I know you will start bitching about. We raise the minimum wage to $9.00 an hour. Will that raise prices? Yes. So be it. Otherwise we will have more and more people relying on the government. That would be worse wouldn't you say?


Don't you think that would also have the effect of some people losing their businesses or firing workers thus putting more people out of work?

I think it can at least be a smooth and slow transition to 9.00. I think we can get creative in keeping that from happening. Like I said, those business can adjust their prices to compensate.
 
You people astound me. Are you just ignoring everything I've been saying this entire time or are you really this stupid? I can't even wrap my head around your logic.

One more time: I am not against the CONCEPT of wealth inequality. I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

Try reading slower. You'll catch on.

I keep asking what we should do about it. Do you have a solution?

You nor anybody else on this board is going to DO anything about it , don't kid yourself problems don't get solved by talking about them on Internet message boards, it's just entertainment.

well, you make a mistke here. Exposing what "solutions" the left wants ( and billy's of the boards are just parroting the talking points of the left in power) is important - as what they plan to do is dangerous and has been proven wrong in many places around the globe.
 
Your argument neglects the fact that in a finite world, everyone being a millionaire is not a possibility.

Where is this "finite" world of which you speak?

C'mon, now you're just trying to be obtuse.

I wish I had a dollar for every time a someone told me a thing can't be done. Wealth is not a limited resource. There is no such thing as a fixed amount of wealth to go around. It does not work that way. You may not think yourself capable of producing a million in goods but that does not mean everyone is like you.
 
You people astound me. Are you just ignoring everything I've been saying this entire time or are you really this stupid? I can't even wrap my head around your logic.

One more time: I am not against the CONCEPT of wealth inequality. I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

Try reading slower. You'll catch on.

I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

What is the proper amount for the top 1% to control?

Much less than that. Can we at least agree on that?

I can't agree on your non-specific recommendation.
How much less, be specific.
 
I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

What is the proper amount for the top 1% to control?

Much less than that. Can we at least agree on that?

I can't agree on your non-specific recommendation.
How much less, be specific.

Don't give me that. If i were to throw out a percentage, you would have given me the typical conservative bullshit of "well who are you to decide how much wealth rich people control?"
 
You people astound me. Are you just ignoring everything I've been saying this entire time or are you really this stupid? I can't even wrap my head around your logic.

One more time: I am not against the CONCEPT of wealth inequality. I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

Try reading slower. You'll catch on.

I keep asking what we should do about it. Do you have a solution?

You nor anybody else on this board is going to DO anything about it , don't kid yourself problems don't get solved by talking about them on Internet message boards, it's just entertainment.

Not totally true. You never know who you might be talking to and what influence they have!
 
You people astound me. Are you just ignoring everything I've been saying this entire time or are you really this stupid? I can't even wrap my head around your logic.

One more time: I am not against the CONCEPT of wealth inequality. I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

Try reading slower. You'll catch on.

I am against the idea of wealth inequality reaching the point of 1% of the population controlling 40% of the wealth.

What is the proper amount for the top 1% to control?

Much less than that. Can we at least agree on that?

Just looked at the Forbes 400 list.
The Waltons on the list are worth $115.5 billion combined.
How much should they be worth, to make things fair?
 
I keep asking what we should do about it. Do you have a solution?

You nor anybody else on this board is going to DO anything about it , don't kid yourself problems don't get solved by talking about them on Internet message boards, it's just entertainment.

well, you make a mistke here. Exposing what "solutions" the left wants ( and billy's of the boards are just parroting the talking points of the left in power) is important - as what they plan to do is dangerous and has been proven wrong in many places around the globe.
Trust me the left wingers on this board barely have the power to wipe their own rear ends let alone have any effect in how societies problems are addressed, they're cheerleaders who will believe whatever their dieties in government tell them to believe, nothing to be frightened of.
 
Much less than that. Can we at least agree on that?

I can't agree on your non-specific recommendation.
How much less, be specific.

Don't give me that. If i were to throw out a percentage, you would have given me the typical conservative bullshit of "well who are you to decide how much wealth rich people control?"

That's an excellent question.
Who are you to decide?
What is the logic behind your suggested proper amount?
 
I keep asking what we should do about it. Do you have a solution?

You nor anybody else on this board is going to DO anything about it , don't kid yourself problems don't get solved by talking about them on Internet message boards, it's just entertainment.

Not totally true. You never know who you might be talking to and what influence they have!

No kidding, you might be talking to Carlos Danger!
 
Yeah that's it. You got me. I don't want to talk about solutions.

Ok here's your solution which I know you will start bitching about. We raise the minimum wage to $9.00 an hour. Will that raise prices? Yes. So be it. Otherwise we will have more and more people relying on the government. That would be worse wouldn't you say?


Don't you think that would also have the effect of some people losing their businesses or firing workers thus putting more people out of work?

I think it can at least be a smooth and slow transition to 9.00. I think we can get creative in keeping that from happening. Like I said, those business can adjust their prices to compensate.

Is it possible that a rise in prices will also cause some people not purchase thus causing a dip in business and subsequent layoffs? Also what makes you think that a raise in minimum wage is going to positively effect a specific person to save or invest their money wisely?
 
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No that really isn't what he means. He means thinking critically. Finding middle ground in logic. Realizing that just because I do not like the state of the country's wealth inequality, it doesn't mean I am against the concept itself of wealth inequality. It's realizing that no one here is against capitalism.

So you're issue is you don't want to talk about solutions, you want to talk about patting everyone on the back for a job well done, no matter what they have done. What you want is platitudes, empty titles, joy, happiness, world peace, an end to world hunger, can't we all just get along,... all that good stuff right?

Yeah that's it. You got me. I don't want to talk about solutions.

Ok here's your solution which I know you will start bitching about. We raise the minimum wage to $9.00 an hour. Will that raise prices? Yes. So be it. Otherwise we will have more and more people relying on the government. That would be worse wouldn't you say?

You are mixing issues and will cause more problems than you solve. You want a raise and you want government to force your employer to give you that raise? I don't know anyone that works for minimum wage, however if you keep raising minimum wage I can say that I would know people who used to work above minimum wage who where demoted from full time pay to part time at the new higher minimum wage because her boss had to give a raise to all his crappy employees and thus had to put everyone that was full time to part time employment with out benefits.

If you want to solve problems you have to think of the repercussions of your changes, and adjust your solution accordingly. Repeating mistakes of the past... well that's just dumb.
 
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I can't agree on your non-specific recommendation.
How much less, be specific.

Don't give me that. If i were to throw out a percentage, you would have given me the typical conservative bullshit of "well who are you to decide how much wealth rich people control?"

That's an excellent question.
Who are you to decide?
What is the logic behind your suggested proper amount?

THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU EVEN ASK FOR AN AMOUNT? :bang3:
 

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