This day in history, the Confederacy's High Water Mark died, and so did the Founder's Intent

[IsaacNewton]

If it hadn't been Gettysburg it would have been any one of a hundred other places. The South had no chance of winning that war. When it started the entire economy of the South equaled about 1/4 of the economy of New York state alone.

The South was like Japan in WW2. Near parity in arms at the start and they faired well for a year or two, but once the US economy and industrial base kicked in it was all over but the singing. The South had no chance. Thankfully.


And to try to tie the South's treason to the founders is ludicrous. The founders wanted to end slavery in 1776 but the realities were other at the time. They knew though that the issue had to be settled at some point in the future. You can't say 'All men are created equal' while you own slaves.

 

[DOTR]

OT, I wish some TV channel would have on Ted Turner's movie about Gettysburg. With Martin Sheen as Bobby Lee.

I tried to find a decent biography on George Meade but he largely slipped away unnoticed.

The most memorable and honored battle was Chamberlains fixed bayonet charge down Little Roundtop. To which a statute honoring him was erected in Maine where he was from.

That battle is still taught in the Army's leadership school to this day.

I was at Vicksburg a few years back and came across a group of West Point cadets and their instructor walking the battlefield.
An ancestor of mine fought there with the 27th Louisiana and I have a copy of his diary. His descriptions are good enough that I could stand in the place he did.

 

[deanrd]

Ah weep. The National Beast was borne, and liberty died, and the evil civil war amendments were forced onto the States, leading to birthright citizenship, gay marriage and .... dare I say it.... Obama.

Yea, Obama:
Adulterer
Peeks at underage girls
Boasts about sexual assault
Runs a criminal charity foundation that was only a slush fund for his family
Wants to be president for life
Has unprotected sex with porn stars
kidnaps children and send them all over the US
Admires despots

Oh wait, That's Trump. I just got them mixed. Sorry.

 

[bripat9643]

Ah weep. The National Beast was borne, and liberty died, and the evil civil war amendments were forced onto the States, leading to birthright citizenship, gay marriage and .... dare I say it.... Obama.

What happened?

Battle of Gettysburg ended
That last time Lee invaded the North, i believe.

It's the only time he invaded the North.

 

[bripat9643]

Ah weep. The National Beast was borne, and liberty died, and the evil civil war amendments were forced onto the States, leading to birthright citizenship, gay marriage and .... dare I say it.... Obama.

You are correct. Not so strange when you think of the way the amendments were forced on the country. Poison tree.

I was sorta joking about the amendments. I mean they had to agree to not try the slavery thing again to get back in the club ... and have the bluebellies leave. LOL But yeah it was jammed down their throats.

Hard to compare back then and the original klan to the civil rights bills of of the 1960s though, imo.

Oh no...wrong there. Most southern states approved the 13th amendment with little problem. Some northern states rejected it. And I am speaking of before reconstruction.

How can anyone claim a state under military occupation ratified anything?

But the 14th was never passed. A flawed article written as punishment. Several Northern states accepted disenfranchisement rather than accept it and both New Hampshire and Oregon tried to leave the Union over it. Of course the South didnt have that choice and had its state governments overthrown and military rule instituted as punishment for rejecting it.
And today, as a direct result, we are ruled by an oligarchy of nine DC judges.

Agreed.

 

[DOTR]

How can anyone claim a state under military occupation ratified anything?

How about the Equal Rights Amendment? They tried from 1930 to 1982 before the American people finally rejected that nonsense.
Yet we have to pretend it passed now?