This is why we need a 2,000 mile wall

[Wyatt earp]

It's real funny when you argue with the left they say it's just a misdemeanor, no it's not you deported and come back it's a felony




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Did you know that the wall will be tied up in the courts for years due to Eminent Domain proceedings? Didga? I guess Orange Man & his cult didn't figure that there are going to be landowners in Texas who aren't willing to hand over their land without a fight to that goddam fool you elected so he can ram thru his pipe dream of a wall! If it even gets funded, which is doubtful. So rant on about Dotards wall. And look up Eminent Domain.

2006 bush signed it in to law, 600 miles plus already built

 

[pismoe]

It's real funny when you argue with the left they say it's just a misdemeanor, no it's not you deported and come back it's a felony




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Did you know that the wall will be tied up in the courts for years due to Eminent Domain proceedings? Didga? I guess Orange Man & his cult didn't figure that there are going to be landowners in Texas who aren't willing to hand over their land without a fight to that goddam fool you elected so he can ram thru his pipe dream of a wall! If it even gets funded, which is doubtful. So rant on about Dotards wall. And look up Eminent Domain.

---------------------------------------------- maybe it'll be in the Courts for years , maybe not , we will see . As you say , if the WALL ever gets funded . Also we had to worry about the 'enviros' but i have read and linked on the board that TRUMP has already got 'enviro' concerns waived or something Clipper . TRUMP seems to be an unconventional 'go getter' so we will see what he can get accomplished Clipper .

 

[pismoe]

link because i mentioned the 'enviro' issue Clipper . --- Trump can ignore environmental laws to build border wall after Supreme Court declines to hear suit ---

 

[H B Lowrie]

It's real funny when you argue with the left they say it's just a misdemeanor, no it's not you deported and come back it's a felony




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Did you know that the wall will be tied up in the courts for years due to Eminent Domain proceedings? Didga? I guess Orange Man & his cult didn't figure that there are going to be landowners in Texas who aren't willing to hand over their land without a fight to that goddam fool you elected so he can ram thru his pipe dream of a wall! If it even gets funded, which is doubtful. So rant on about Dotards wall. And look up Eminent Domain.

2006 bush signed it in to law, 600 miles plus already built

GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN: MORE THAN 54,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS TO WORK WITHOUT PAY, WHILE TRUMP SAYS THEY ‘WANT THE WALL’
More than 54,000 Border Patrol agents will be working without pay as government shutdown continues

MAGA-n-shit.

 

[pismoe]

It's real funny when you argue with the left they say it's just a misdemeanor, no it's not you deported and come back it's a felony




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Did you know that the wall will be tied up in the courts for years due to Eminent Domain proceedings? Didga? I guess Orange Man & his cult didn't figure that there are going to be landowners in Texas who aren't willing to hand over their land without a fight to that goddam fool you elected so he can ram thru his pipe dream of a wall! If it even gets funded, which is doubtful. So rant on about Dotards wall. And look up Eminent Domain.

2006 bush signed it in to law, 600 miles plus already built

GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN: MORE THAN 54,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS TO WORK WITHOUT PAY, WHILE TRUMP SAYS THEY ‘WANT THE WALL’
More than 54,000 Border Patrol agents will be working without pay as government shutdown continues

MAGA-n-shit.

big deal , i'll bet that none of the 54 thousand that none of them Starve Lowrie .

 

[Wyatt earp]

You need it to feel safe for ten minutes until Trump pulls another fake crisis out of his fat ass to scare you into supporting another of his harebrained schemes. What will it be next? You have no idea because Trump has not told you what to fear yet.

Like the fake health care crisis?

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New York, N.Y., October 8, 2015 — The U.S. spent more per person on health care than 12 other high-income nations in 2013, while seeing the lowest life expectancy and some of the worst health outcomes among this group, according to a Commonwealth Fund report out today. The analysis shows that in the U.S., which spent an average of $9,086 per person annually, life expectancy was 78.8 years. Switzerland, the second-highest-spending country, spent $6,325 per person and had a life expectancy of 82.9 years. Mortality rates for cancer were among the lowest in the U.S., but rates of chronic conditions, obesity, and infant mortality were higher than those abroad.

“Time and again, we see evidence that the amount of money we spend on health care in this country is not gaining us comparable health benefits,” said Commonwealth Fund President David Blumenthal, M.D. “We have to look at the root causes of this disconnect and invest our health care dollars in ways that will allow us to live longer while enjoying better health and greater productivity.”

U.S. Spends More on Health Care Than Other High-Income Nations But Has Lower Life Expectancy, Worse Health | Commonwealth Fund


U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries

U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries


Major Findings
· Quality: The indicators of quality were grouped into four categories: effective care, safe care, coordinated care, and patient-centered care. Compared with the other 10 countries, the U.S. fares best on provision and receipt of preventive and patient-centered care. While there has been some improvement in recent years, lower scores on safe and coordinated care pull the overall U.S. quality score down. Continued adoption of health information technology should enhance the ability of U.S. physicians to identify, monitor, and coordinate care for their patients, particularly those with chronic conditions.

· Access: Not surprisingly—given the absence of universal coverage—people in the U.S. go without needed health care because of cost more often than people do in the other countries. Americans were the most likely to say they had access problems related to cost. Patients in the U.S. have rapid access to specialized health care services; however, they are less likely to report rapid access to primary care than people in leading countries in the study. In other countries, like Canada, patients have little to no financial burden, but experience wait times for such specialized services. There is a frequent misperception that trade-offs between universal coverage and timely access to specialized services are inevitable; however, the Netherlands, U.K., and Germany provide universal coverage with low out-of-pocket costs while maintaining quick access to specialty services.

· Efficiency: On indicators of efficiency, the U.S. ranks last among the 11 countries, with the U.K. and Sweden ranking first and second, respectively. The U.S. has poor performance on measures of national health expenditures and administrative costs as well as on measures of administrative hassles, avoidable emergency room use, and duplicative medical testing. Sicker survey respondents in the U.K. and France are less likely to visit the emergency room for a condition that could have been treated by a regular doctor, had one been available.

· Equity: The U.S. ranks a clear last on measures of equity. Americans with below-average incomes were much more likely than their counterparts in other countries to report not visiting a physician when sick; not getting a recommended test, treatment, or follow-up care; or not filling a prescription or skipping doses when needed because of costs. On each of these indicators, one-third or more lower-income adults in the U.S. said they went without needed care because of costs in the past year.

· Healthy lives: The U.S. ranks last overall with poor scores on all three indicators of healthy lives—mortality amenable to medical care, infant mortality, and healthy life expectancy at age 60. The U.S. and U.K. had much higher death rates in 2007 from conditions amenable to medical care than some of the other countries, e.g., rates 25 percent to 50 percent higher than Australia and Sweden. Overall, France, Sweden, and Switzerland rank highest on healthy lives.

How the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally


No other advanced country even comes close to the United States in annual spending on health care, but plenty of those other countries see much better outcomes in their citizens' actual health overall.

A new Commonwealth Fund report released Thursday underscored that point — yet again — with an analysis that ranks 13 high-income nations on their overall health spending, use of medical services, prices and health outcomes.

The study data, which is from 2013, predates the full implementation of Obamacare, which took place in 2014. Obamacare is designed to increase health coverage for Americans and stem the rise in health-care costs.

The findings indicate that despite spending well in excess of the rate of any other of those countries in 2013, the United States achieved worse outcomes when it comes to rates of chronic conditions, obesity and infant mortality.

One rare bright spot for the U.S., however, is that its mortality rate for cancer is among the lowest out of the 13 countries, and that cancer rates fell faster between 1995 and 2007 than in other countries.

"Time and again, we see evidence that the amount of money we spend on health care in this country is not gaining us comparable health benefits," said Dr. David Blumenthal, president of the Commonwealth Fund. "We have to look at the root causes of this disconnect and invest our health-care dollars in ways that will allow us to live longer while enjoying better health and greater productivity."

US health care: Spending a lot, getting the least


Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
NEJM - Error


Health Care Outcomes in States Influenced by Coverage, Disparities
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...-in-states-influenced-by-coverage-disparities


One explanation for the health disadvantage of the United States relative to other high-income countries might be deficiencies in health services. Although the United States is renowned for its leadership in biomedical research, its cutting-edge medical technology, and its hospitals and specialists, problems with ensuring Americans’ access to the system and providing quality care have been a long-standing concern of policy makers and the public (Berwick et al., 2008; Brook, 2011b; Fineberg, 2012). Higher mortality rates from diseases, and even from transportation-related injuries and homicides, may be traceable in part to failings in the health care system.

The United States stands out from many other countries in not offering universal health insurance coverage. In 2010, 50 million people (16 percent of the U.S. population) were uninsured (DeNavas-Walt et al., 2011). Access to health care services, particularly in rural and frontier communities or disadvantaged urban centers, is often limited. The United States has a relatively weak foundation for primary care and a shortage of family physicians (American Academy of Family Physicians, 2009; Grumbach et al., 2009; Macinko et al., 2007; Sandy et al., 2009). Many Americans rely on emergency departments for acute, chronic, and even preventive care (Institute of Medicine, 2007a; Schoen et al., 2009b, 2011). Cost sharing is common in the United States, and high out-of-pocket expenses make health care services, pharmaceuticals, and medical supplies increasingly unaffordable (Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance System, 2011; Karaca-Mandic et al., 2012). In 2011, one-third of American households reported problems paying medical bills (Cohen et al., 2012), a problem that seems to have worsened in recent years (Himmelstein et al., 2009). Health insurance premiums are consuming an increasing proportion of U.S. household income (Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance System, 2011).

Public Health and Medical Care Systems - U.S. Health in International Perspective - NCBI Bookshelf


Once again, U.S. has most expensive, least effective health care system in survey

A report released Monday by a respected think tank ranks the United States dead last in the quality of its health-care system when compared with 10 other western, industrialized nations, the same spot it occupied in four previous studies by the same organization. Not only did the U.S. fail to move up between 2004 and 2014 -- as other nations did with concerted effort and significant reforms -- it also has maintained this dubious distinction while spending far more per capita ($8,508) on health care than Norway ($5,669), which has the second most expensive system.

"Although the U.S. spends more on health care than any other country and has the highest proportion of specialist physicians, survey findings indicate that from the patients’ perspective, and based on outcome indicators, the performance of American health care is severely lacking," the Commonwealth Fund, a New York-based foundation that promotes improved health care, concluded in its extensive analysis. The charts in this post are from the report.


Once again, U.S. has most expensive, least effective health care system in survey


US healthcare system ranks 50th out of 55 countries for efficiency
US healthcare system ranks 50th out of 55 countries for efficiency


The U.S. healthcare system notched another dubious honor in a new comparison of its quality to the systems of 10 other developed countries: its rank was dead last.

The new study by the Commonwealth Fund ranks the U.S. against seven wealthy European countries and Canada, Australia and New Zealand. It's a follow-up of previous surveys published in 2010, 2007, 2006 and 2004, in all of which the U.S. also ranked last.

Although the U.S. ranked in the middle of the pack on measures of effectiveness, safety and coordination of care, it ranked dead last on access and cost, by a sufficient margin to rank dead last overall. The breakdowns are in the chart above.

Conservative pundits hastened to explain away these results after the report was published. See Aaron Carroll for a gloss on the "zombie arguments" put forth against the clear evidence that the U.S. system falls short.

The U.S. healthcare system: worst in the developed world

U.S. Health Care Ranked Worst in the Developed World
U.S. Health Care Ranked Worst in the Developed World

Healthy lives: The U.S. ranks last overallwith poor scores on all three indicators of healthy lives—mortality amenable to medical care, infant mortality, and healthy life expectancy at age 60. The U.S. and U.K. had much higher death rates in 2007 from conditions amenable to medical care than some of the other countries, e.g., rates 25 percent to 50 percent higher than Australia and Sweden. Overall, France, Sweden, and Switzerland rank highest on healthy lives.

How the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally


Like I said all your talking points have been debunked so many times, how many countries have the 2nd amendment?


This Is Why Americans Aren’t Living As Long As They Should Be


The researchers looked at the top three largest causes of U.S. injury death — motor vehicle traffic crashes, firearm-related injuries, and drug poisonings. These causes are collectively responsible for more than 100,000 deaths every year.


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[Moonglow]

Five hours in the hot sun and little water, sounds like a day at the job...But a wall will only make those people who would walk go around it to get in. Stop hiring these people and pass legislation to stop the influx of people...

 

[80zephyr]

It's real funny when you argue with the left they say it's just a misdemeanor, no it's not you deported and come back it's a felony




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Did you know that the wall will be tied up in the courts for years due to Eminent Domain proceedings? Didga? I guess Orange Man & his cult didn't figure that there are going to be landowners in Texas who aren't willing to hand over their land without a fight to that goddam fool you elected so he can ram thru his pipe dream of a wall! If it even gets funded, which is doubtful. So rant on about Dotards wall. And look up Eminent Domain.

Why would it be tied up in court? I have been thru 4 eminent domain takings of my property, and I can assure you that the process is pretty simple.

Mark

 

[BrokeLoser]

You need it to feel safe for ten minutes until Trump pulls another fake crisis out of his fat ass to scare you into supporting another of his harebrained schemes. What will it be next? You have no idea because Trump has not told you what to fear yet.

Haha..do these numbers indicate a “crisis” to you...what’s your number? At what point would you call it a crisis?
In November, 51,856 people were apprehended between ports of entry on the Southwest Border, compared with 51,001 in the month of October. In FY18, a total of 396,579 individuals were apprehended between ports of entry on our Southwest Border.
Southwest Border Migration FY 2019 | U.S. Customs and Border Protection