This may make me sound like a liberal, I don't care. Not into trophy hunters.

[koshergrl]

As long as what they kill is either a pest or is consumed, trophies are fine.

They aren't "consuming" Tigers, dude. They're simply killing them for fun.

You're lying, again! Usually the meat is given to local tribes or the folks that tend the camp.

what happens to animals hunted in african safaris?

Don't like the idea of hanging majestic animals on walls.

Proverbs 12:10 : "A righteous man cares for the needs of animals, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel."

Like I mentioned, I do not have a problem with them being killed for food or population control. There is something disrespectful about displaying them on walls. I also do not think the ones hanging them on walls and paying big money to do that really care all that much what they are doing with the meat.

There is a line and using them to parade on walls is wrong.

There is more to a hunt than just getting meat.

And part of that is the symbolic value of the hide and various body parts. Claws, bones, teeth all have symbolic value to hunters. There is nothing disrespectful about showing the hide or using it. That is your own bias, but it's far removed from the reality of why hunters display their trophies.

There are risks associated with hunting, one of which is death. Those who have hunted enjoy the tangible remembrances of the event, and believe it or not, they find those things beautiful and they treasure them. It's a really primal thing. If I killed a cat, there is no way I would *bury* or otherwise discard the skin, teeth and claws. I feel perfectly comfortable in homes that have trophies..bear, cat, antlers, fish, whatever, on the walls. To me it feels like home. The people I grew up with hunted...some on a subsistence level, some went for trophies, and none of those people disrespected the animals they took.

They have the right to hunt. You don't have to like it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I do not like hunting I despise trophies.

The American First People had to hunt to survive, but they prayed over the animal recognizing the necessity of the death and thanking the animal for its sacrifice.

 

[Picaro]

As long as what they kill is either a pest or is consumed, trophies are fine.

They aren't "consuming" Tigers, dude. They're simply killing them for fun.

Given the numbers of people and farm animals tigers kill I say trophy up.

"The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber"

That's typical of how degenerate misfit PETA scum hurt the people their New Age cult pretends to love, proving that all these jealous sissyboys really care about is insulting manly White people. Not only do impoverished Africans lose the revenue from ivory, but the Sacred Elephants ransack their village and stomp their children to death.

Shut the fuck up you moron.

lol

 

[JakeStarkey]

I have not hunted large animals since the Army, other than rakestraw rooters and vermin.

Trophy hunting is disguised blood lust, nothing more, to me.

So let's not waste tears on the hunter who ended up as game.

 

[skye]

At the end of the day their less than honorable purpose for hunting them is irrelevant. They might be dicks, but they are the only reason rhinos even still exist.

Why in the hell are they dicks?

They are funding the care of animals, conservationism and laws against poachers.

Most trophy hunters admire the animals that they hunt.

Why are you so judgmental against trophy hunters?

I'll tell you what

I suggest that from now on, we hunt trophy hunters to extinction.... until there is none left, ok?

Now, that would be a novel idea!

And then we mount them on a wall.....like this

 

[Correll]

I do not like hunting I despise trophies.

The American First People had to hunt to survive, but they prayed over the animal recognizing the necessity of the death and thanking the animal for its sacrifice.

If they wanted to pray over dead animals, no skin off my nose.

If they want their Stone Age culture to influence my behavior or beliefs in any way, fuck them.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I'll tell you what

I suggest that from now on, we hunt trophy hunters to extinction.... until there is none left, ok?

Now, that would be a novel idea!

And then we mount them on a wall.....like this

So you believe that human life and animal life are equivalent?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I'll tell you what

I suggest that from now on, we hunt trophy hunters to extinction.... until there is none left, ok?

Now, that would be a novel idea!

And then we mount them on a wall.....like this

So you believe that human life and animal life are equivalent?

Of course they are!

If we truly allowed hunting we would include people.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

At the end of the day their less than honorable purpose for hunting them is irrelevant. They might be dicks, but they are the only reason rhinos even still exist.

Why in the hell are they dicks?

They are funding the care of animals, conservationism and laws against poachers.

Most trophy hunters admire the animals that they hunt.

Why are you so judgmental against trophy hunters?

I'll tell you what

I suggest that from now on, we hunt trophy hunters to extinction.... until there is none left, ok?

Now, that would be a novel idea!

And then we mount them on a wall.....like this

Looks like a typical pothead and deservedly so.

 

[skye]

I'll tell you what

I suggest that from now on, we hunt trophy hunters to extinction.... until there is none left, ok?

Now, that would be a novel idea!

And then we mount them on a wall.....like this

So you believe that human life and animal life are equivalent?

I didn't say that

I said that trophy hunting is revolting and immoral.

I said that trophy hunters should be vanished from the earth.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I'm not a big fan of trophy hunting. Don't kill it unless it's threatening you or you're going to eat it.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

At the end of the day their less than honorable purpose for hunting them is irrelevant. They might be dicks, but they are the only reason rhinos even still exist.

Why in the hell are they dicks?

They are funding the care of animals, conservationism and laws against poachers.

Most trophy hunters admire the animals that they hunt.

Why are you so judgmental against trophy hunters?

No they are not "funding the care of animals". That's just plain ludicrous and, as that old joke says, 'killing for conservation is like fucking for chastity'.

If it were about conservation, hunters would not target the youngest, healthiest and strongest.

Trophy hunting harms the ecology and balance of a particular which results in many more deaths. It also harms the human population because it pays only the outfitters. Photo tourism benefits all of that and strengthens the genetic diversity of the species.

Don't knee jerk support something unless you educate yourself first. Ignorance if such basic facts makes you look like a fool.


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[Luddly Neddite]

People who condemn trophy killing and then go and eat an animal are simply hypocrites. But it could be a decent first step. If trophy killing really upsets you, vote with your money and go vegetarian.

If you left out the word "trophy", you would be partly correct.

I've been vegetarian since the mid80s and have a sort of grudging respect for subsistence hunting. The problem is that all hunting does enormous damage. And really, there is no ethical reason to kill any animal just to hang a dead-head on the wall.


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[Luddly Neddite]

Crocodiles and gators should be hunted; a vile creature at best, and nobody should be whining about 'saving' them. They're just a form of vermin.

No they're not. They serve an important function, fill a vital niche.


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[Luddly Neddite]

They aren't "consuming" Tigers, dude. They're simply killing them for fun.

You're lying, again! Usually the meat is given to local tribes or the folks that tend the camp.

what happens to animals hunted in african safaris?

LOL "Yahoo answers" is hardly a reliable source.

Don't attack the source maggot, prove it wrong or STFU.


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That's not a "source." Any random joe can answer questions on yahoo answers. And hunting an endangered species for meat is beyond fucked up.

Is your google broke freak? Prove it wrong or STFU!

BTW you can't get a license to hunt endangered species.

OKTexas

Not true.

Check the " T&E" regs.

Also, TX is lousy with canned (chicken shit) hunts of endangered species.


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[Luddly Neddite]

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Why is this a political issue? Africa has regulated Safari hunting for decades and local poaching is a problem so you can't blame an American trophy hunter for anything. I hope the anti sport hunting fraternity doesn't applaud the gruesome death of an American hunter simply because they hate hunting.

Trophy hunting is not right. Hunting for food, or for population control etc where it is necessary is one thing.

Not for the big business.

Something about killing majestic animals and hanging them on walls....

There is a difference between hunting for trophy etc and doing it for food.

Period.

In a way i feel the same way as you, but thr truth is, if American trophy hunters werent doing these trips to Africa, all those majestic animals would be dead due to local poachers. An illegal poacher can go out and kill rhinos all day long, providing no money to the region at all. An american on the other hand will pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to hunt just one. That money then goes to preserving all the other wildlife by hiring security forces that watch for poachers.

An old adult rhino is extremely damaging to other rhinos. They become agressive and kill younger males so they cant breed. Culling them is vital to the rhino population. Thats where an american will step in, pay them a fuckload of cash and go cull the the old rhino.

It may look bad at a glance. Hell, these guys might be assholes who just want a trophy, but they truly are doing a huge service for wildlife when they go on these hunts.

Winner of rhino hunting auction: My $350,000 will help save species - CNN.com

If they are doing it to thin out herds or for food, but let's not kid ourselves.

Displaying them on walls and displaying them out is what the millionaires are paying big money to do.

It is about big business and there is something immoral about it. If it is necessary to kill animals for whatever the reasons, it should be done with more respect than the way it is being done.

I can tell you a lot of benefits in having abortions. From the overpopulation of humans, to not wanting more and more unwanted pregnancies with fatherless kids. Jesus even said judas would have been better off never being born. I can use all of the logic in the world. Displaying and smiling over a slaughtered majestic animal is NOT respecting creation.

This is about big business. If it was merely about what you are saying, it can still be done without the parading. I could get behind that. Would still have remorse though.

This is about the immoral manner in the way these things are done.

Do you support abortion?

I always wonder how anyone can compare the human fetus with any other animal because, usually, they are making a point against abortion.

I care more about animals than I do most humans but I find that comparison reprehensible.


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[percysunshine]

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Pumpkins on the front porch at halloween are just vegetarian trophys. Can't even make pumpkin pie out of them.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Our teeth show us to be omnivores, not herbavors

To a great extent but we don't do well I'd we ear animal source foods like dairy and eggs in any great quantity.

The American Dairy Assoc did two studies that showed the consumption of dairy contributes to osteoporosis. It's actually a high protein diet that leaches minerals out of our bones. We're not baby cows.were the only animal that's never weaned and it's not even the milk that we are made to assimilate, metabolize and can use.

Meat ---

Funny that people don't see long canines and conclude that we have long canines. True carnivores have long canines.

We don't have strong claws for catching, gripping and holding our prey.

Our saliva starts the digestion and we chew our food - note the flat molars.

Our digestive system is very long in order to extract nutrients while a true carnivore has a very short, all but straight shot through because meat rots.

I've seen three autopsies and in all of them, the pathologist "ran the bowel", which extrudes the contents. In each one, there were small hard pieces that fell onto the stainless steel with clinking sound.

When asked, the pathologist said that was old, partially digested meat and why we get certain cancers.

Two of these people were middle aged, one was a young man, electrocuted at his job. IOW, it's not a part of aging.

There was a meat sandwich on the pathologist's desk and after class, I remember that we stopped at a McDonalds. It was years before I went vegetarian. Such is the willful and convenient disconnect we all do.



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[OKTexas]

You're lying, again! Usually the meat is given to local tribes or the folks that tend the camp.

what happens to animals hunted in african safaris?

LOL "Yahoo answers" is hardly a reliable source.

Don't attack the source maggot, prove it wrong or STFU.


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That's not a "source." Any random joe can answer questions on yahoo answers. And hunting an endangered species for meat is beyond fucked up.

Is your google broke freak? Prove it wrong or STFU!

BTW you can't get a license to hunt endangered species.

OKTexas

Not true.

Check the " T&E" regs.

Also, TX is lousy with canned (chicken shit) hunts of endangered species.


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Claims, is that all you got? What endangered species are legally hunted in TX?

 

[Godboy]

At the end of the day their less than honorable purpose for hunting them is irrelevant. They might be dicks, but they are the only reason rhinos even still exist.

Why in the hell are they dicks?

They are funding the care of animals, conservationism and laws against poachers.

Most trophy hunters admire the animals that they hunt.

Why are you so judgmental against trophy hunters?

No they are not "funding the care of animals". That's just plain ludicrous and, as that old joke says, 'killing for conservation is like fucking for chastity'.

If it were about conservation, hunters would not target the youngest, healthiest and strongest.

Trophy hunting harms the ecology and balance of a particular which results in many more deaths. It also harms the human population because it pays only the outfitters. Photo tourism benefits all of that and strengthens the genetic diversity of the species.

Don't knee jerk support something unless you educate yourself first. Ignorance if such basic facts makes you look like a fool.


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Words from a guy who definitely knows jack shit about hunting. They hunt the youngest? Young deer dont have very few "points". The best trophies are always the oldest, who have the most points. Quit talking about things you dont understand.