This tenet of fascism is a value shared by modern leftists

[bripat9643]

Ignored.

You replied to my post, kiddo. Your depth of knowledge couldn't drown a cricket.

You have failed to prove it, NAZI.

 

[K9Buck]

"Common knowledge?" - hardly

It's not common knowledge to guys like you because your media masters don't tell you the truth. And then you accuse me of being a liar. Amazing.

 

[colfax_m]

The guy that just told another that he doesn't understand the definition of "big" words is now lecturing me about "tirades".

Tirades isn't that big of a word, I figured you'd know what it meant.

This entire thread is based on a meandering nonsensical emotional outburst based solely on modern day politics and not rationality let alone history.

 

[K9Buck]

This entire thread is based on a meandering nonsensical emotional outburst...

The root problem is that leftists like you are unwilling to acknowledge the truth and, when you dislike the FACTS that are presented, you call us names, etc. You simply CANNOT accept that your ideology was shared by guys like Mussolini. I'm trying to help you to SEE the truth and you respond with insults. That's not my problem.

 

[PoliticalChic]

...If fascism is "right-wing", why then were FDR and many other western leftists such big fans of Mussolini and fascism?

Links? (to credible sources, not right-wing op-eds from loser trying to re-brand themselves )

Do your own research shit-for-brains, it's common knowledge, dumbass.

Translation: "I cannot provide you with links to credible sources that ascertain that FDR and other high-profile Leftists were 'big fans of Mussolini and fascism.' "

"Common knowledge?" - hardly - and your assertion here was worthy of a 4th-grade recess-yard debater, Princess.

Lying weasel.

FDR Praised Mussolini And Loved Fascism

So much so, that FDR took Mussolini's entire Fascist system and imposed it on America as the New Deal.


FDR co-opted Mussolini's economic program and called it the New Deal.



1. "Perhaps the most radical aspect of the New Deal was the National Industrial Recovery Act, passed in June 1933, which created a massive new bureaucracy called the National Recovery Administration. Under the NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels.

Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement, while the NRA was financed by new taxes on the very industries it controlled. Some economists have estimated that the NRA boosted the cost of doing business by an average of 40 percent — not something a depressed economy needed for recovery."

http://www.theadagiogroup.com/Great_Myths_of_the_Great_Depression.pdf

Great Myths of the Great Depression, Lawrence W Reed


2. The man Roosevelt picked to direct the NRA effort was General Hugh Johnson, a profane, red-faced bully and professed admirer of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. ...There were ultimately more than 500 NRA codes, “ranging from the production of lightning rods to the manufacture of corsets and brassieres, covering more than 2 million employers and 22 million workers.”
“FDR’s Disputed Legacy,” Time, February 1, 1982, p. 30.

There were codes for the production of hair tonic, dog leashes, and even musical comedies. A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents.




3. Roosevelt's economic guru, Rex Tugwell was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Francis Perkins, U.S. Secretary of Laborfrom 1933 to 1945, the longest serving in that position, and thefirst womanappointed to theU.S. Cabinet, the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described."
Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."

The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system.

a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.

b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington
until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48


4. There were codes for the production of hair tonic, dog leashes, and even musical comedies. A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents.

 

[Dragonlady]

What a good little conformist YOU are!

You're a batshit crazy nutcase.

What is it about right wing FuckBois that their knee jerk reaction to having their lies exposed is to declare the person who debunks their bullshit as “crazy”.

While offering NOTHING to prove their ridiculous twaddle. Communists everywhere. Democrats are communists. Run for your lives!!!

 

[K9Buck]

So much so, that FDR took Mussolini's entire Fascist system and imposed it on America as the New Deal.

The problem with leftists is that they CANNOT accept the truth. Rather than thanking you for enlightening them, they will hate you for it. They don't believe in doing their own research but, instead, rely on a narrative that was fed to them by their party masters. And when someone like you does their digging for them, they deny it. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[K9Buck]

...having their lies exposed is to declare the person who debunks their bullshit as “crazy”.

You're irrational because you deny basic truths. A rational and reasonable person accepts facts, even facts that they dislike.

 

[K9Buck]

You’ve described nationalism, which received quite the makeover under Trump.

I'll ask again, what is your issue with nationalism?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So much so, that FDR took Mussolini's entire Fascist system and imposed it on America as the New Deal.

The problem with leftists is that they CANNOT accept the truth. Rather than thanking you for enlightening them, they will hate you for it. They don't believe in doing their own research but, instead, rely on a narrative that was fed to them by their party masters. And when someone like you does their digging for them, they deny it. Rinse. Repeat.

Ronald Reagan : "Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.”

 

[PoliticalChic]

You’ve described nationalism, which received quite the makeover under Trump.

I'll ask again, what is your issue with nationalism?

They are internationalists.
Communism is international socialism.

 

[K9Buck]

They are internationalists.
Communism is international socialism.

Our leftist friends have a very narrow understanding of political and economic ideologies, as well as terms such as "nationalism". They know that Hitler was a nationalist so, for them, that means that ALL nationalism is bad. And when you ask them to discuss Abraham Lincoln's nationalism, they become flummoxed and then begin performing contortions with their illogic.

 

[K9Buck]

Our boisterous, leftist, friends are suddenly gone. I know where they are.

 

[struth]

Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...

- Benito Mussolini

We see countless examples of the party and/or the government screwing poor and middle-class Americans and leftists are either mute about it or deflect, blame Trump, etc. I often tell leftists that their love, loyalty, and devotion are to the party and NOT to average Americans. Very seldom, if ever, do they respond and disagree with that statement.

For the modern leftist, NOTHING matters more than the party/state, which is one-in-the-same under the Democratic (fascist) oligarchy.

Some of you will question as to why the left does this or that. It's simple. Anything that advances the party, they support, and I mean ANYTHING. One can see the staggering amount of crime, lies, and corruption taking place in the federal government but you won't see a leftist complain or even acknowledge any of it because their love, loyalty, and devotion are to serving the party and, in particular, the party elites.

So, yes, leftists agree with Mussolini in that the left only cares about individuals and individual "rights" so long as their interests coincide with the interests of the party/state.

For instance, acknowledging and discussing the 50+ years of catastrophic black murder rates in Democratic ghettos is strictly verboten because the discussion of mountains of dead, black, bodies is contrary to the interests of the party/state. Therefore, murders of poor blacks continue unabated because their interests in life do not outweigh the party's/state's interests of retaining and increasing their power and wealth.

There are countless more examples, but you get the point. For the leftist, the party/state is everything and nothing else matters.

Fascism was embraced by hard right Italian conservatives.

nah bro Benito was a lefist socialist

Mussolini started out as a socialist..

Was Benito Mussolini a socialist? - Quora

Was Benito Mussolini a socialist?

Answer (1 of 45): As Anonymous stated,Mussolini was a socialist initially but quickly became disenchanted with socialist internationalism and egalitarianism which he considered to be a contradiction of evolutionary principles.Thus,he founded political fascism which synthesized the working-class e...

www.quora.com

As Anonymous stated,Mussolini was a socialist initially but quickly became disenchanted with socialist internationalism and egalitarianism which he considered to be a contradiction of evolutionary

yep...he was a socialist. like i said.

but didnt like his party so started a different one, a third way that was no the right wing capitalist, way...but fascism...socialism with some hand picked private industries that only worked for the state and party interest

 

[K9Buck]

socialism with some hand picked private industries that only worked for the state and party interest

Yea, just like AT&T, Amazon, Twitter, etc.

 

[surada]

You’ve described nationalism, which received quite the makeover under Trump.

I'll ask again, what is your issue with nationalism?

Nationalism is always aggressive, authoritarian and racist.. Its quite the opposite of patriotism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They are internationalists.
Communism is international socialism.

Our leftist friends have a very narrow understanding of political and economic ideologies, as well as terms such as "nationalism". They know that Hitler was a nationalist so, for them, that means that ALL nationalism is bad. And when you ask them to discuss Abraham Lincoln's nationalism, they become flummoxed and then begin performing contortions with their illogic.

a. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

b. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.


It's the 'socialism' part that is deadly.....the Democrat hallmark.


And communism is far more dangerous.

.…as Martin Amis put it, 'Bolshevism was exportable and produced near-identical results elsewhere. Nazism could not be duplicated. Compared to it, the other fascist states were simply amateurish' (Amis, 'Koba the Dread,' 2002, p. 91).

This makes communism more dangerous than Nazism.

Nazism was based on blood and nationalism, so, could not be duplicated in nations like America, which is made up of so very many nations.

 

[surada]

socialism with some hand picked private industries that only worked for the state and party interest

Yea, just like AT&T, Amazon, Twitter, etc.

Start your own platform if you want hate speech and lies. I don't know where you'll get sponsors, but have at it.. Freedom of speech doesn't mean anyone owes you a venue.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You’ve described nationalism, which received quite the makeover under Trump.

I'll ask again, what is your issue with nationalism?

Nationalism is always aggressive, authoritarian and racist.. Its quite the opposite of patriotism.

You should stop being afraid to read a book.....therapy might help.

 

[struth]

socialism with some hand picked private industries that only worked for the state and party interest

Yea, just like AT&T, Amazon, Twitter, etc.

Start your own platform if you want hate speech and lies. I don't know where you'll get sponsors, but have at it.. Freedom of speech doesn't mean anyone owes you a venue.

i don’t disagree, but when tweeter no longer has bulletin board and asks as a publisher it loses its immunity from liability that the govt has given it.