This tenet of fascism is a value shared by modern leftists

[surada]

Were Hitler and Mussolini Socialists? - The History Forum
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Jan 15, 2012 · Mussolini may have started out as a socialist, but the ideology he went on to create was nothing like Marxism. Fascism demands the individual's absolute obedience and loyalty to the state - it suppresses conflict between business and labour through this combined loyalty to the state. Communism extols the dictatorship of the masses to take over ...

 

[surada]

Damn. You're such a victim. Trump tells you what to think and you're off to the races.

Nope. I've simply witnessed the total lack of transparency in numerous voting jurisdictions. If we had transparency, there would be no dispute. You don't mind, of course, because you don't care about legitimate elections because your love, loyalty, and devotion are to the party. By hook or by crook, it's fine with you.

LOLOL.. Trump told you they lacked "transparency".

 

[K9Buck]

Mussolini was a socialist initially but quickly became disenchanted

That's not accurate.

9 Things You May Not Know About Mussolini - HISTORY

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Oct 26, 2012 · Mussolini was a socialist before becoming a fascist. Born to a socialist father, Mussolini was named after leftist Mexican President Benito Juárez. His …

As I said, your statement is inaccurate. You insulted my level of education when, in fact, it is YOU that is completely ignorant about Benito Mussolini and the tenets of fascism. You didn't even know that FDR and much of the western left thought Mussolini and his policies were GREAT! LOL!

 

[Kondor3]

...If fascism is "right-wing", why then were FDR and many other western leftists such big fans of Mussolini and fascism?

Links? (to credible sources, not right-wing op-eds from loser trying to re-brand themselves )

 

[K9Buck]

Fascism demands the individual's absolute obedience and loyalty to the state

So did/does communism.

The fundamental difference between communism and fascism is that, under communism, the state owns EVERYTHING. Under fascism, private ownership is permitted but not necessarily control of the entity.

 

[K9Buck]

...If fascism is "right-wing", why then were FDR and many other western leftists such big fans of Mussolini and fascism?

Links? (to credible sources, not right-wing op-eds from loser trying to re-brand themselves )

Do your own research shit-for-brains, it's common knowledge, dumbass.

 

[K9Buck]

Trump told you they lacked "transparency".

No, I've seen the lack of transparency for myself. You're on the wrong side. The American left is a totalitarian movement and you support them.

 

[surada]

Mussolini founds the Fascist party - HISTORY

Mussolini founds precursor to the Fascist party | March 23, 1919 | HISTORY

Benito Mussolini, an Italian World War I veteran and publisher of Socialist newspapers, breaks with the Italian Socialists and establishes the nationalist Fasci di Combattimento, named after the Italian peasant revolutionaries, or “Fighting Bands,” from the 19th century. It would evolve into the...

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Mussolini founds the Fascist party Benito Mussolini, an Italian World War I veteran and publisher of Socialist newspapers, breaks with the Italian Socialists and establishes the nationalist Fasci..

 

[surada]

...If fascism is "right-wing", why then were FDR and many other western leftists such big fans of Mussolini and fascism?

Links? (to credible sources, not right-wing op-eds from loser trying to re-brand themselves )

Do your own research shit-for-brains, it's common knowledge, dumbass.

I'm afraid you have a common education.. like a soundbite education.

Mussolini, "Doctrine of Fascism" (1932)
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Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism (1932) Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) started his political life as a socialist and in 1912, was appointed editor of Avanti, a leading socialist newspaper. During the Great War, Mussolini was expelled from the Socialist Party for advocating Italy’s entrance into battle.

Benito Mussolini's Fascism: The Ideology Of The Twentieth ...

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In the political and social doctrine “The Ideology of Twentieth Century” the fascist leader Benito Mussolini expresses his view about the aims of the Fascist government with impressive but indirect way: “The

 

[K9Buck]

Leftists don't know that their political and economic aspirations are

Mussolini founds the Fascist party Benito Mussolini, an Italian World War I veteran and publisher of Socialist newspapers, breaks with the Italian Socialists and establishes the nationalist Fasci..

Correct. Mussolini broke with the Italian socialists and created his own party/movement. None of that is in dispute. You don't know basic history nor do you understand basic political and economic ideologies. As I said earlier, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what is fascism.

 

[bripat9643]

Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...

- Benito Mussolini

We see countless examples of the party and/or the government screwing poor and middle-class Americans and leftists are either mute about it or deflect, blame Trump, etc. I often tell leftists that their love, loyalty, and devotion are to the party and NOT to average Americans. Very seldom, if ever, do they respond and disagree with that statement.

For the modern leftist, NOTHING matters more than the party/state, which is one-in-the-same under the Democratic (fascist) oligarchy.

Some of you will question as to why the left does this or that. It's simple. Anything that advances the party, they support, and I mean ANYTHING. One can see the staggering amount of crime, lies, and corruption taking place in the federal government but you won't see a leftist complain or even acknowledge any of it because their love, loyalty, and devotion are to serving the party and, in particular, the party elites.

So, yes, leftists agree with Mussolini in that the left only cares about individuals and individual "rights" so long as their interests coincide with the interests of the party/state.

For instance, acknowledging and discussing the 50+ years of catastrophic black murder rates in Democratic ghettos is strictly verboten because the discussion of mountains of dead, black, bodies is contrary to the interests of the party/state. Therefore, murders of poor blacks continue unabated because their interests in life do not outweigh the party's/state's interests of retaining and increasing their power and wealth.

There are countless more examples, but you get the point. For the leftist, the party/state is everything and nothing else matters.

Fascism was embraced by hard right Italian conservatives.

Bullshit. Musolinni was a communist before he invented Fascism.

 

[BS Filter]

...If fascism is "right-wing", why then were FDR and many other western leftists such big fans of Mussolini and fascism?

Links? (to credible sources, not right-wing op-eds from loser trying to re-brand themselves )

Do your own research shit-for-brains, it's common knowledge, dumbass.

I'm afraid you have a common education.. like a soundbite education.

Mussolini, "Doctrine of Fascism" (1932)
www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html
Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism (1932) Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) started his political life as a socialist and in 1912, was appointed editor of Avanti, a leading socialist newspaper. During the Great War, Mussolini was expelled from the Socialist Party for advocating Italy’s entrance into battle.

Benito Mussolini's Fascism: The Ideology Of The Twentieth ...

https://www.ipl.org/essay/Benito-Mussolinis

...
In the political and social doctrine “The Ideology of Twentieth Century” the fascist leader Benito Mussolini expresses his view about the aims of the Fascist government with impressive but indirect way: “The

Hitler was definitely a socialist. He stated that fact.

 

[bripat9643]

...If fascism is "right-wing", why then were FDR and many other western leftists such big fans of Mussolini and fascism?

Links? (to credible sources, not right-wing op-eds from loser trying to re-brand themselves )

Do your own research shit-for-brains, it's common knowledge, dumbass.

I'm afraid you have a common education.. like a soundbite education.

Mussolini, "Doctrine of Fascism" (1932)
www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html
Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism (1932) Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) started his political life as a socialist and in 1912, was appointed editor of Avanti, a leading socialist newspaper. During the Great War, Mussolini was expelled from the Socialist Party for advocating Italy’s entrance into battle.

Benito Mussolini's Fascism: The Ideology Of The Twentieth ...

https://www.ipl.org/essay/Benito-Mussolinis

...
In the political and social doctrine “The Ideology of Twentieth Century” the fascist leader Benito Mussolini expresses his view about the aims of the Fascist government with impressive but indirect way: “The

So what does Mussolini claim about fascism that is inline with modern conservatism?

 

[surada]

Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...

- Benito Mussolini

We see countless examples of the party and/or the government screwing poor and middle-class Americans and leftists are either mute about it or deflect, blame Trump, etc. I often tell leftists that their love, loyalty, and devotion are to the party and NOT to average Americans. Very seldom, if ever, do they respond and disagree with that statement.

For the modern leftist, NOTHING matters more than the party/state, which is one-in-the-same under the Democratic (fascist) oligarchy.

Some of you will question as to why the left does this or that. It's simple. Anything that advances the party, they support, and I mean ANYTHING. One can see the staggering amount of crime, lies, and corruption taking place in the federal government but you won't see a leftist complain or even acknowledge any of it because their love, loyalty, and devotion are to serving the party and, in particular, the party elites.

So, yes, leftists agree with Mussolini in that the left only cares about individuals and individual "rights" so long as their interests coincide with the interests of the party/state.

For instance, acknowledging and discussing the 50+ years of catastrophic black murder rates in Democratic ghettos is strictly verboten because the discussion of mountains of dead, black, bodies is contrary to the interests of the party/state. Therefore, murders of poor blacks continue unabated because their interests in life do not outweigh the party's/state's interests of retaining and increasing their power and wealth.

There are countless more examples, but you get the point. For the leftist, the party/state is everything and nothing else matters.

Fascism was embraced by hard right Italian conservatives.

Bullshit. Musolinni was a communist before he invented Fascism.

He was a socialist.

Mussolini, "Doctrine of Fascism" (1932)
www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html
Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism (1932) Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) started his political life as a socialist and in 1912, was appointed editor of Avanti, a leading socialist newspaper. During the Great War, Mussolini was expelled from the Socialist Party for advocating Italy’s entrance into battle.

Benito Mussolini's Fascism: The Ideology Of The Twentieth ...

https://www.ipl.org/essay/Benito-Mussolinis

...
In the political and social doctrine “The Ideology of Twentieth Century” the fascist leader Benito Mussolini expresses his view about the aims of the Fascist government with impressive but indirect way: “The

 

[K9Buck]

...If fascism is "right-wing", why then were FDR and many other western leftists such big fans of Mussolini and fascism?

Links? (to credible sources, not right-wing op-eds from loser trying to re-brand themselves )

Do your own research shit-for-brains, it's common knowledge, dumbass.

I'm afraid you have a common education.. like a soundbite education.

Mussolini, "Doctrine of Fascism" (1932)
www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html
Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism (1932) Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) started his political life as a socialist and in 1912, was appointed editor of Avanti, a leading socialist newspaper. During the Great War, Mussolini was expelled from the Socialist Party for advocating Italy’s entrance into battle.

Benito Mussolini's Fascism: The Ideology Of The Twentieth ...

https://www.ipl.org/essay/Benito-Mussolinis

...
In the political and social doctrine “The Ideology of Twentieth Century” the fascist leader Benito Mussolini expresses his view about the aims of the Fascist government with impressive but indirect way: “The

Yea, I've studied that many times.

I'll ask again the question that you keep dodging. Where did Mussolini make derogatory statements about minorities?

Your problem is that you want to win an argument rather than acknowledge basic truths and expand your understanding. Therefore, you're forced to contort yourself to try and justify your erroneous arguments. The American left is all about fascism. Companies like AT&T, which owns CNN, are in lockstep with the party and, in return, the party bestows protections and favors upon them. The same is true with social media giants such as Twitter, Facebook, etc., that are protected by the party and, in return, they serve the party. It's the perfect marriage of corrupt corporations with corrupt politicians.

In the end, poor and middle-class Americans get SCREWED and guys you support it. You'll deny simple facts and do everything to support and protect the people that are screwing you. Amazing.

 

[BS Filter]

Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxists have stolen the term and confused its meaning… We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national.’

– Adolf Hitler

 

[K9Buck]

So what does Mussolini claim about fascism that is inline with modern conservatism?

Nothing.

 

[bripat9643]

It’s not verboten, it just is that the only time you guys bring it up is when you’re trying to distract from something else.

Yea, that's a lie. The Democratic Party has essentially killed MILLIONS of poor black folks and you guys don't want to talk about it, let alone do anything about it because you like the status quo because the status quo is good for the party/state, which is all you care about.

The only thing you care about is using this as a political cudgel.

There’s no discussion of root causes or solutions. Just “Democrats are bad”. This is a tool for you, not a problem.

The so-called "root solutions" are just more Democrat Voo-Doo that has never worked.

 

[K9Buck]

Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxists have stolen the term and confused its meaning… We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national.’

– Adolf Hitler

In trying to understand ideologies, it's obviously important to know their beliefs and what they advocated. However, it's even more important to know what they DID. Hitler claiming NOT to be an "internationalist" is pretty damn funny. That mofo was about as "international" as it gets.

 

[bripat9643]

Fascism was embraced by hard right Italian conservatives.

Is that what your government school taught you? LOL.

I didn't attend government schools.

Fascism includes racism and nationalism... and it is always hard right. Look up the Fascists of the 20th century. Fascists like Hitler hated socialism and communism. That's why Hitler purged them in 1933 by killing them or putting them in concentration camps.

No it doesn't. Mussolini was not a racist. Hitler had his own brand of fascism that didn't serve as the template.

Fascism is hard left. Hitler did not hate socialism. He promoted it in almost every speech he gave.

Your talking points have all been debunked.