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What a load of horse hocky.
We read this part of the bill, remember?
It does NOT say what this person is saying it does.
She's fucking making shit up, folks.
I find it mind-boggling that so many are willing to put the future of their health care in the hands of the government. Your trust and faith in them astounds me.
I find it mind-boggling that so many are willing to put the future of their health care in the hands of the government. Your trust and faith in them astounds me.
really?
perhaps a look at the friggin' obvious would help that perspective...?
Republicans Reveal Their Hypocrisy On Health Care, Refuse To Support Bill To Kill Government-Run Medicare
For months, Republicans have been trying to scare Americans away from supporting a public option in health care reform, claiming that government-run medicine is akin to socialism and would be disastrous. But the government already runs several successful, well-loved health care programs most notably, Medicare.
Yesterday, Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) decided that it was put-up or shut-up time for the phonies who deride the so-called public option. He offered an amendment that would eliminate government-run Medicare:
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Not a single member of Congress voted for the amendment, and Republicans were blasting it as a political farce. Last night, Weiner went on MSNBC and explained the GOPs hypocrisy:
WEINER: Well, for some reason, I guess Republicans dont like publicly funded, publicly administered health plans except for Medicare, and, I guess, except for the Veterans Administration and except for the health care that our military gets from the Department of Defense. The fact of the matter is, what weve learned is that government administered health care works pretty darn well. Its got lower overhead and people like it.
So, when my Republican colleagues pound the drum and pound the podium about how they hate government-run health care, I guess they havent looked at what they get.
Republicans are refusing to acknowledge the hypocrisy in their statements warning about socialized medicine and their support for Medicare. Of course, conservatives also opposed the creation of Medicare in the 1960s and made many of the same claims that their counterparts are doing today. Forty-four years later, Medicare has helped Americas senior citizens live longer, healthier lives. By not voting for Weiners amendment, conservatives are acknowledging that their supposedly substantive claims about health care reform are nothing more than crass political fear-mongering.
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I find it mind-boggling that so many are willing to put the future of their health care in the hands of the government. Your trust and faith in them astounds me.
really?
perhaps a look at the friggin' obvious would help that perspective...?
Republicans Reveal Their Hypocrisy On Health Care, Refuse To Support Bill To Kill Government-Run Medicare
For months, Republicans have been trying to scare Americans away from supporting a public option in health care reform, claiming that government-run medicine is akin to socialism and would be disastrous. But the government already runs several successful, well-loved health care programs most notably, Medicare.
Yesterday, Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) decided that it was put-up or shut-up time for the phonies who deride the so-called public option. He offered an amendment that would eliminate government-run Medicare:
![]()
Not a single member of Congress voted for the amendment, and Republicans were blasting it as a political farce. Last night, Weiner went on MSNBC and explained the GOPs hypocrisy:
WEINER: Well, for some reason, I guess Republicans dont like publicly funded, publicly administered health plans except for Medicare, and, I guess, except for the Veterans Administration and except for the health care that our military gets from the Department of Defense. The fact of the matter is, what weve learned is that government administered health care works pretty darn well. Its got lower overhead and people like it.
So, when my Republican colleagues pound the drum and pound the podium about how they hate government-run health care, I guess they havent looked at what they get.
Republicans are refusing to acknowledge the hypocrisy in their statements warning about socialized medicine and their support for Medicare. Of course, conservatives also opposed the creation of Medicare in the 1960s and made many of the same claims that their counterparts are doing today. Forty-four years later, Medicare has helped Americas senior citizens live longer, healthier lives. By not voting for Weiners amendment, conservatives are acknowledging that their supposedly substantive claims about health care reform are nothing more than crass political fear-mongering.
Do as I say, not as I do. I don't know any other way to explain the sheer arrogance of Henry Waxman.
The House Energy and Commerce Committee chairman says Congress does not have to join the government health care.
You, maybe. But not them.
So he's fine foisting this health care monstrosity on us, just not Congress. Waxman says members of Congress do not have to join the public option government health plan.
i find it mind-boggling that so many are willing to put the future of their health care in the hands of the government. Your trust and faith in them astounds me.
really?
Perhaps a look at the friggin' obvious would help that perspective...?
Republicans reveal their hypocrisy on health care, refuse to support bill to kill government-run medicare
for months, republicans have been trying to scare americans away from supporting a public option in health care reform, claiming that “government-run” medicine is akin to socialism and would be disastrous. but the government already runs several successful, well-loved health care programs — most notably, medicare.
Yesterday, rep. Anthony weiner (d-ny) decided that it was “put-up or shut-up time for the phonies who deride the so-called ‘public option.’” he offered an amendment that would eliminate government-run medicare:
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not a single member of congress voted for the amendment, and republicans were blasting it as a “political farce.” last night, weiner went on msnbc and explained the gop’s hypocrisy:
weiner: Well, for some reason, i guess republicans don’t like publicly funded, publicly administered health plans except for medicare, and, i guess, except for the veterans administration and except for the health care that our military gets from the department of defense. The fact of the matter is, what we’ve learned is that government administered health care works pretty darn well. It’s got lower overhead and people like it.
so, when my republican colleagues pound the drum and pound the podium about how they hate government-run health care, i guess they haven’t looked at what they get.
republicans are refusing to acknowledge the hypocrisy in their statements warning about “socialized” medicine and their support for medicare. Of course, conservatives also opposed the creation of medicare in the 1960s and made many of the same claims that their counterparts are doing today. Forty-four years later, medicare has helped america’s senior citizens live longer, healthier lives. By not voting for weiner’s amendment, conservatives are acknowledging that their supposedly substantive claims about health care reform are nothing more than crass political fear-mongering.
well-run? Isn't medicare going to be belly up in 10 years or so? Well-loved? I'll let those who have va health care chime in on that one.
Too bad the gop didn't have the balls to vote yes on this. Then again, got to look towards 2010 and all those old votes, eh? Can't cut off your nose to spite your face.
If single payer, government run health care is so wonderful, why is waxman being the hypocrite? I say it's put up or shut up time for the dems. If this system they are proposing is so wonderful, then all who vote for it should drop their current private health care and go on the government run plan.
do as i say, not as i do. I don't know any other way to explain the sheer arrogance of henry waxman.
The house energy and commerce committee chairman says congress does not have to join the government health care.
You, maybe. But not them.
So he's fine foisting this health care monstrosity on us, just not congress. waxman says members of congress do not have to join the public option government health plan.
the sheer arrogance of rep. Waxman - neil cavuto | your world - foxnews.com
didn't you get the memo? There are hypocrites on both sides of the aisle.
It doesn't shock me. This is pure progressivism and today's liberalism. The elderly, the ill, and the people who live outside of cities are disposable, and they have every intention of disposing of them.
SEC. 1233. ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTATION of "the bill" quoted in this thread (post 6) is only a part of the bill and it is essentially a definitional portion of the bill. It does use some mandatory language, but it seems misleading to read it as requiring such counseling in general. Section 1233 of the proposed legislation is intended to be read as part of the entire bill and it makes specific reference to Sec. 1861. of the SOCIAL SECURITY ACT.
Wading through all of that mess would take undue time for present purposes. However, my preliminary reading of these acts (together) SEEMS to suggest that the legislation in question is meant only to say that IF the provider performs such "end of life" type counseling services, then the provider is only going to get paid for it once every five years.
When I first heard about this part of the proposed Act, I was concerned that they were making it mandatory, too. But a closer look SEEMS to reveal that it really doesn't.
EDIT:
for ease of reference, her's a quick link to the other Act I mentioned: Social Security Act §1861
I find it mind-boggling that so many are willing to put the future of their health care in the hands of the government. Your trust and faith in them astounds me.
I find it mind-boggling that so many are willing to put the future of their health care in the hands of the government. Your trust and faith in them astounds me.
I find it mind boggling that fools like you put your trust in corperations that profit from denying you treatment.