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[IM2]

With all due respect, Paul..."fighting racism" is a cottage industry for people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton! They've made millions pretending to champion the black man against "systemic racism" in America! Do you really think either of them cares about the average black man on the street other than as a means to an end? To be honest...I find you to be rather naive.

That's a delusion racists like you have chosen to believe.

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The king of white grievance and white identity politics was a college dropout with no skills who race pimped whites for 33 years making himself nearly a billionaire while doing so. Yet he told whites like you how it was people like Sharpton who made fighting racism a cottage industry.

You know nothing about being black. You know nothing about the black population in America. You don't speak for blacks nor do you know the intentions of black leaders. You repeat bullshit you hear from white racists. You really need to STFU.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Did it ever occur to you that the reason those "involved" parents didn't want their children in public schools is because public school education has been awful at educating kids? They're not putting them in charter schools for no reason! Use your head!

Things were a lot better twenty years ago when my daughter was in school. Even then it was a constant battle getting her a decent education despite the fact that my wife was a teacher in the same school district. We had to hand pick my daughter's teachers, something the average parent wasn't able to do. We were involved and made sure her homework got done and kept a constant line of communication open with her teachers. She still got a worse education than I got in inner city schools in the late sixties. Many of the courses had been dumbed down to Reader's Digest levels of detail.

 

[IM2]

It's not just Black women having children without a father, it's Black GIRLS having babies when they are just children themselves. How much chance does a girl of fifteen or sixteen have with a baby and no father helping to support that baby? Not much of one. The longer you wait to have children the more successful you are in life.

Both of these are racist assertions that are not based in fact.

"It is important to realize that the "percent of births" is not a birth rate. The birth rate is the number of births for every 1,000 women in a specific category. The last marital birth rates calculated by the National Center for Health Statistics were for 2002. In 2002, the black marital birth rate was 64.9 births for every 1,000 married black women. The white marital birth rate was 88.2 for every 1,000 married white women. The black marital birth rate was 23.3 births less than the white rate. In the past, the black marital birth rate was higher than the white rate. Because there is such a low number of births among married black women, the percent of births to unmarried black women is especially high."

To summarize--there is no data to show that the black "illegitimacy" figure of 70 percent has been caused by unmarried black women having more kids than they did in the past. In fact, the trend is the exact opposite. What is clear is that the behavior of married black women has changed, to the point that married black women are actually having less kids than married white women.

This is why stigmatizing lifestyles is a strategy for neanderthals, why it's always sinful to look past the weeds in your lawn in order to lecture your neighbor. I'll live for the day when all these social conservatives who think that the 70 percent figure is the cause of all that's wrong in black America, start hectoring married black people to have more kids.

The math on Black out of wedlock births

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So you go on into the hood and go tell married black women to have more kids.

Furthermore

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."
-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant abot the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what ut was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

 

[AZrailwhale]

Sure they did..
By lynching, bombing churches and schools, fire hoses, attack dogs, beating protestors and arresting leaders

There were what four states in the deep south that did that? The other FORTY FOUR states made a hell of a lot of progress and dragged the deep south along kicking and screaming all the way. Compared to then, even the deep south is a paradise of racial equality today.

 

[rightwinger]

There were what four states in the deep south that did that? The other FORTY FOUR states made a hell of a lot of progress and dragged the deep south along kicking and screaming all the way. Compared to then, even the deep south is a paradise of racial equality today.

Even those states were no bastions of racial equality.
They needed Affirmative Action and Busing

 

[AZrailwhale]

Both of these are racist assertions that are not based in fact.



To summarize--there is no data to show that the black "illegitimacy" figure of 70 percent has been caused by unmarried black women having more kids than they did in the past. In fact, the trend is the exact opposite. What is clear is that the behavior of married black women has changed, to the point that married black women are actually having less kids than married white women.

This is why stigmatizing lifestyles is a strategy for neanderthals, why it's always sinful to look past the weeds in your lawn in order to lecture your neighbor. I'll live for the day when all these social conservatives who think that the 70 percent figure is the cause of all that's wrong in black America, start hectoring married black people to have more kids.

The math on Black out of wedlock births

The Atlantic covers news, politics, culture, technology, health, and more, through its articles, podcasts, videos, and flagship magazine.

www.theatlantic.com

So you go on into the hood and go tell married black women to have more kids.

Furthermore

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."
-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant abot the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what ut was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Did you notice the bait and switch in your cite? It went from black women having illegitimate children to the birth rate of MARRIED Black women. Even your p[propaganda is stupid.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Even those states were no bastions of racial equality.
They needed Affirmative Action and Busing

And who were the people forcing that change? Not the ten to twelve percent of the population that was Black. It was Whites helping people get ahead and correcting historical wrongs.

 

[IM2]

Did you notice the bait and switch in your cite? It went from black women having illegitimate children to the birth rate of MARRIED Black women. Even your p[propaganda is stupid.

Yes I know exactly what I posted. Your ass is steady looking for a reason to deny the impact of white racism. The birth rate of married black women must be considered when you are talking about the rate of births in the black community. However, that's not the prblem and your white ass refuses to accept that the problem is economic and it has nothing to do with unwed mothers because white divorced women are unwed mothers and the economic problems are not there.

White divorced suburban women live in communities with plenty of economic and community development that do not exist in most inner city neighborhoods. Thats the problem and a man sitting at the dinner table is not going to cure the lack of economic development in these communities.

 

[IM2]

And who were the people forcing that change? Not the ten to twelve percent of the population that was Black. It was Whites helping people get ahead and correcting historical wrongs.

Incorrect.

 

[Oldestyle]

That's a delusion racists like you have chosen to believe.

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The king of white grievance and white identity politics was a college dropout with no skills who race pimped whites for 33 years making himself nearly a billionaire while doing so. Yet he told whites like you how it was people like Sharpton who made fighting racism a cottage industry.

You know nothing about being black. You know nothing about the black population in America. You don't speak for blacks nor do you know the intentions of black leaders. You repeat bullshit you hear from white racists. You really need to STFU.

I'm amused by the site you've cited to prove Al Sharpton hasn't made millions off his decades of race baiting, IM2! Did you miss the part where he owes 3.7 million in back taxes? Gee, how does that work, little buddy? How can you possibly owe that much when you're supposedly only worth five hundred thousand? Oh, wait...is it because Reverend Al isn't good with money? Like REALLY not good with money? (eye roll)

 

[IM2]

There were what four states in the deep south that did that? The other FORTY FOUR states made a hell of a lot of progress and dragged the deep south along kicking and screaming all the way. Compared to then, even the deep south is a paradise of racial equality today.

Incorrect.

For the first 5 years after WW2 in Chicago alone, there were 357 acts of terror by whites against blacks who tried living in or near majority white neighborhoods. In 1951 a black man named Harvey Clark and his family tried to move into the Cicero neighborhood of Chicago. A white mob vandalized his home and burned his furniture in the front yard. The police did nothing. In first six months of 1955 there were 213 acts of violence against blacks by whites in Philadelphia. Whites resorted to terrorism in order to intimidate blacks so they would not move into white communities. In 1964 when blacks tried renting an apartment in Cicero, their apartment was again vandalized. All the police did was enter the apartment, take out the furniture and told the people they were evicted. At the same time period in Detroit, there were over 200 acts of terrorist violence against blacks to stop black families from moving to the suburbs. From 1950-1965 there were over 100 bombings of black owned residences in Los Angeles. In 1987, another black family tried moving into Cicero. They got gunfire and firebombs. Again, that was in 1987.

Chris Wolfgang, Mafiosi and Madams, Omaha Magazine, August 29, 2013, https://omahamagazine.com/articles/tag/edward-parsons-smith/

Dennison’s Political Machine, Dennison’s Political Machine

B.C Franklin, The Tulsa Race Riots and Three of It’s Victims, A Long-Lost Manuscript Contains a Searing Eyewitness Account of the Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921

William L. Patterson, We Charge Genocide, 4th edition, International Publishers Co., Inc., New York, 2017 pp.60-61

Richard Rothstein, Color of Law, Liverright Publishing, pp.144, 2018

Jae Jones, Cicero Race Riot: Mob of 4,000 Destroys Apartment Building with One Black Family Tenants, November 14, 2018, Cicero Race Riot: Mob of 4,000 Destroys Apartment Building with One Black Family Tenantsblack-family-tenants/

Charles Abrams, The Time Bomb That Exploded in Cicero: Segregated Housing's Inevitable Dividend, The Time Bomb That Exploded in Cicero:Segregated Housing's Inevitable Dividend

Christy Clark-Pujara and Anna-Lisa Cox, How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence, smithsonianmag.com, August 27, 2020, How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And who were the people forcing that change?

Progressives. Thanks for teeing up THAT softball.

 

[IM2]

I'm amused by the site you've cited to prove Al Sharpton hasn't made millions off his decades of race baiting, IM2! Did you miss the part where he owes 3.7 million in back taxes? Gee, how does that work, little buddy? How can you possibly owe that much when you're supposedly only worth five hundred thousand? Oh, wait...is it because Reverend Al isn't good with money? Like REALLY not good with money? (eye roll)

He hasn't. That's a fact. The only race baiter was Limbaugh.

I beieve the tax debt was accumulated over several years.

The IRS established over $2.8 million in liens against Sharpton from 1995-2010, according to the New York City Office of the City Register. The records indicate Sharpton has paid off over $2.1 million.

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But you have chosen to ignore the 85 million dollars per year Limbaugh was paid for his racism.

 

[IM2]

It's time white racists understand that you do not know why things are as they are in the black community and that black people do know.

 

[Paul Essien]

AZrailwhale
If you want to get rid of racism towards Blacks, show Whites positive examples like every other ethnicity has done.

Racism is not about what black people. It's about what white people.

As I've said many times Barack Obama was the perfect example of a black man. He was spoke in way that was acceptable to whites. He was smart. He was educated. He was successful. He was a great father. He had no kids out of wedlock. He committed no crime.He took no drugs and say what you want about his presidency. There was not 1% of personal scandal on that dude.

But he got more racism from whites than any black man alive.

.You view racism as a one way street. "Blacks need to clean up their act, but whites don’t need to do anything"

AZrailwhale
Blacks did that in the late fifties and sixties and most whites got behind them and pushed for better conditions and advantages for Blacks in society.

Nice bit of revisionist history there. This what all that pushing for equality got blks in the 60's. Tell me where were are all these good whites you claim got behind blacks when it got serious bk then ?

In the 50's and 60's. They weren't scared.

They raised hell.

In the United States Of America black people are up against the single most sophisticated military the world has ever seen. The most violent survelliance state the world has ever seen AND YET WE FIGHT THESE BASTARDS

And we do that knowing that we are outnumbered, outgunned and outfinanced. In 2020 black Americans had these white supremacists on their knees. We forced whites to take a knee. .

 

[Oldestyle]

He hasn't. That's a fact. The only race baiter was Limbaugh.

I beieve the tax debt was accumulated over several years.

The IRS established over $2.8 million in liens against Sharpton from 1995-2010, according to the New York City Office of the City Register. The records indicate Sharpton has paid off over $2.1 million.

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But you have chosen to ignore the 85 million dollars per year Limbaugh was paid for his racism.

Why do you keep bringing up Limbaugh? Is it because you don't have a response to my pointing out that people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have made millions from being race activists?

 

[Oldestyle]

AZrailwhale
If you want to get rid of racism towards Blacks, show Whites positive examples like every other ethnicity has done.

Racism is not about what black people. It's about what white people.

As I've said many times Barack Obama was the perfect example of a black man. He was spoke in way that was acceptable to whites. He was smart. He was educated. He was successful. He was a great father. He had no kids out of wedlock. He committed no crime.He took no drugs and say what you want about his presidency. There was not 1% of personal scandal on that dude.

But he got more racism from whites than any black man alive.

.You view racism as a one way street. "Blacks need to clean up their act, but whites don’t need to do anything"

AZrailwhale
Blacks did that in the late fifties and sixties and most whites got behind them and pushed for better conditions and advantages for Blacks in society.

Nice bit of revisionist history there. This what all that pushing for better living conditions got them and trying to got to school.

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They weren't scared/

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They raised hell.

No scandal in the Obama Presidency? Interesting how you ignore the fact that Barry knew that the DNC and Hillary Clinton were smearing Donald Trump in the months leading up to that election using Obama's Justice Department to push made up "dossiers" and did nothing about it! That's sleazier than Richard Nixon EVER was!

 

[Paul Essien]

No scandal in the Obama Presidency? Interesting how you ignore the fact that Barry knew that the DNC and Hillary Clinton were smearing Donald Trump in the months leading up to that election using Obama's Justice Department to push made up "dossiers" and did nothing about it! That's sleazier than Richard Nixon EVER was!

I said personal scandal

There was not 1% of personal scandal on Obama in two terms of office

 

[Oldestyle]

I said personal scandal

There was not 1% of personal scandal on Obama in two terms of office

Who cares about personal scandal when a sitting President of the United States knowingly lets people working in his Justice Department smear the opposition parties candidate with made up dossiers paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC? Do you seriously not grasp how bad that was, Paul?

 

[Oldestyle]

Then there was Obama's Secretary of State running a pay for play operation on servers hidden in her home to avoid Congressional oversight and lying to Congressional investigators about their existence...something that Barack Obama knew because he was emailing her at those secret servers!