Thousands march in London in support of Palestine

[hadit]

Watch: Thousands of pro-Palestine supporters march through London to protest Israel

WARNING: This video may contain scenes that some viewers find distressing

www.independent.co.uk

Its good when deceent people come together to protest evil.

Despite the tory opposition to this it is good that people recognise ethnic cleansing and protest against it.

Israel is murdering British citizens in Gaza and our govt should be acting on their behalf not cheering on the slaughter..

Thoughtful people realise that a prison camp for 2 million people is not right and there needs to be a proper solution. People are living their whole lives under the sshadow of violence.
It has to end.

Did you forget what precipitated this? It appears that you weren't even told about it. Dig a little bit deeper next time.

 

[DGS49]

There are a pair of questions that elucidate the entire situation in that Godforsaken corner of the war and they are as follows:

(1) If the Israeli's decided tomorrow to lay down their arms and forsake all military/police action going forward, what would happen?
ANSWER: All of the Israeli's would be killed by Hamas and the so-called Palestinians, as quickly as possible.

(2) If Hamas and the other Palestinians decided tomorrow to lay down their arms and forsake all military/terrorist activity going forward, what would happen? ANSWER: End of the conflict.

Does anyone reading this dispute these two answers?

 

[Mac-7]

How do you distinguish Hamas from a Palestinian?

If they are fanatical enough to carry a weapon they should die

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No one in arms will be allowed to surrender; they will be summarily dispatched.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

If they are fanatical enough to carry a weapon they should die

Is it against the law to carry a weapon in Gaza or anywhere else in Palestine?

Carrying a weapon equates to being a fanatical in your eyes? Is that everywhere or only in Palestine?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

No one in arms will be allowed to surrender; they will be summarily dispatched.

Why?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Go March with them, tainty....

If that is him in the pic, I think the best he could come up with is a waddle.

Did you march in support of Hamas?

Did you march for Hamas?

Why are you such a coward and not marching with them?

It's kind of difficult to march properly with only one leg.

 

[westwall]

It's kind of difficult to march properly with only one leg.

Yeah, that's what I was alluding too.

 

[braalian]

Watch: Thousands of pro-Palestine supporters march through London to protest Israel

WARNING: This video may contain scenes that some viewers find distressing

www.independent.co.uk

Its good when deceent people come together to protest evil.

Despite the tory opposition to this it is good that people recognise ethnic cleansing and protest against it.

Israel is murdering British citizens in Gaza and our govt should be acting on their behalf not cheering on the slaughter..

Thoughtful people realise that a prison camp for 2 million people is not right and there needs to be a proper solution. People are living their whole lives under the sshadow of violence.
It has to end.

Looks like most of the “thousands” are Arabs.

They’re free to leave the horrible yoke of white oppression in the UK and return to their paradise homelands whenever they wish.

 

[westwall]

Looks like most of the “thousands” are Arabs.

They’re free to leave the horrible yoke of white oppression in the UK and return to their paradise homelands whenever they wish.

In fact they SHOULD return to their homeland.

But they won't

 

[toobfreak]

Its good when deceent people come together to protest evil.

Gee Tommy, why is it that I am not the least bit surprised to find you supporting child rapists and baby decapitators, who train their children as terrorists, raise them on a diet of venal race hatred, launched an unprovoked slaughter of thousands of innocent people, the same group of people who've sworn their lives for 70 years to the genocide of another race?

Are you wearing your B&W checkered towel on your head in honor of them?

 

[The Duke]

Watch: Thousands of pro-Palestine supporters march through London to protest Israel

WARNING: This video may contain scenes that some viewers find distressing

www.independent.co.uk

Its good when deceent people come together to protest evil.

Despite the tory opposition to this it is good that people recognise ethnic cleansing and protest against it.

Israel is murdering British citizens in Gaza and our govt should be acting on their behalf not cheering on the slaughter..

Thoughtful people realise that a prison camp for 2 million people is not right and there needs to be a proper solution. People are living their whole lives under the sshadow of violence.
It has to end.

And Tommy's too stupid to be scared about it.

 

[Mac-7]

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Is it against the law to carry a weapon in Gaza or anywhere else in Palestine?

Carrying a weapon equates to being a fanatical in your eyes? Is that everywhere or only in Palestine?

Do you think you can breathe under water like a fish?

Thats what you are trying to do here with that post

Yes, the IDF says its against their law and will shoot you dead

But if you are a jihadi in Gaza feel free to complain to the Allah when you meet Him

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Why?

They can surrender without arms and have a chance. Take it.

 

[eagle1462010]

UK. Invited their enemies to live with them. Like so many other countries including America. Now we have possible millions here fucking chanting death to Israel.

This is now an internal threat to the entire west.

Oh....my view on Hamas...They can burn in Hell.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Why?

Weep for your Muslim heroes, for the IDF is arranging a meeting between them and God.

 

[mudwhistle]

Subhumans march for Hamas and are unmolested. If humans marched in defense of Jews, they would be attacked.

What a sad world we live in.

They also have police protection.
If you want to end that crap....let the locals take care of them.

I remember in 78' when Iranians started protesting in Los Angeles after they took our embassy personnel hostage, and a bunch of locals beat the shit out of them.
That was the end of the BS.

 

[zaangalewa]

Thank you Tommy for your thoughtful comments on the matter. I have purposely stayed away from this topic because it's impossible to discuss without being labeled an antisemite for simply trying to understand the conflict, it's origins and why we're where we are today. So I decided to ask a neutral third-party for an explanation. I don't know if it will all fit here but if not then I'll separate it into a couple of windows:

ME: what is the non-political reason that the Israelis and Palestinians are in conflict​

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ChatGPT:​

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a complex and longstanding issue with roots in historical, cultural, religious, and territorial factors. While political issues are significant, there are also non-political reasons contributing to the conflict. Some of these include:​

1. Historical and Cultural Narratives:
   • Claims to the Land: Both Israelis and Palestinians have historical and cultural ties to the land, each asserting a connection that dates back centuries. The competition for the same territory has fueled tensions.
2. Religious Differences:
   • Religious Significance: Jerusalem holds religious significance for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Disputes over control of religious sites, such as the Temple Mount, have intensified the conflict.
3. Nationalism and Identity:
   • Nationalistic Aspirations: Both Israelis and Palestinians have strong nationalistic aspirations and identities tied to the land. The desire for self-determination and sovereignty has led to conflicting claims.
4. Refugee Issue:
   • Displacement: The creation of Israel in 1948 resulted in the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, leading to a longstanding refugee issue. This contributes to a sense of injustice and fuels resentment.
5. Water and Resource Scarcity:
   • Limited Resources: The region faces challenges related to water scarcity and resource distribution. Control over water sources and access to resources can become points of contention.
6. Security Concerns:
   • Security and Terrorism: Israel has faced security concerns, including acts of terrorism. This has led to a focus on securing borders and preventing attacks, often resulting in measures that generate tension.
7. Settlements and Land Disputes:
   • Israeli Settlements: The construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank has been a major source of tension. Palestinians view these settlements as a violation of their territorial rights.
8. Economic Disparities:
   • Economic Inequality: There are significant economic disparities between Israel and the Palestinian territories. These disparities can contribute to social and political tensions.

Understanding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves recognizing the interconnectedness of these various factors. Resolving the conflict requires addressing both political and non-political dimensions, considering the historical, cultural, and societal aspects that contribute to the complexities of the issue.​

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ME: do the israelis control or hold the Palestinians captive in any manner?

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ChatGPT:​

The situation between Israelis and Palestinians is highly complex and contentious, and perspectives on whether Israelis control or hold Palestinians captive can vary based on one's point of view. It's important to note that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a deeply rooted political and territorial dispute with historical, cultural, and religious dimensions. Different parties involved in the conflict may view the situation differently.​

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Critics of Israeli policies argue that factors such as the construction of settlements in the West Bank, restrictions on the movement of people and goods, and the presence of security barriers contribute to a situation where Palestinians may feel confined or restricted. Additionally, critics point to the impact of the Israeli military presence in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.​

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From the Israeli perspective, security concerns and the history of conflict, including acts of terrorism, have influenced policies aimed at protecting Israeli citizens. Security measures such as checkpoints, restrictions on movement, and military presence in certain areas are often framed as necessary for self-defense.​

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The Gaza Strip, in particular, has been a focal point of contention. Israel withdrew its settlements and military forces from Gaza in 2005, but the territory has since been the site of conflicts between Israel and Hamas, the Palestinian militant group in control of Gaza. Israel imposes a blockade on Gaza, which it argues is necessary to prevent the smuggling of weapons and materials that could be used for attacks.​

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International organizations and human rights groups have raised concerns about the impact of certain Israeli policies on the well-being and rights of Palestinians, including issues related to freedom of movement, access to resources, and living conditions.​

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It's essential to approach discussions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with an awareness of the complexity of the issues involved, recognizing the diverse perspectives and experiences of both Israelis and Palestinians. Efforts toward a peaceful resolution often involve addressing political, economic, and social aspects of the conflict to ensure the rights and security of both parties.​

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ME: Do the Palestinians control or hold the Israelis captive in any manner?​

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ChatGPT:​

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The situation between Israelis and Palestinians is a complex and multifaceted conflict, and the characterization of one side "controlling" or "holding captive" the other is highly contentious. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves historical, political, and territorial disputes with deep-rooted grievances on both sides.​

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In terms of control, the West Bank is a particularly sensitive area where both Israelis and Palestinians exert varying degrees of influence. The Oslo Accords, signed in the 1990s, divided the West Bank into Areas A, B, and C. Area A is under the control of the Palestinian Authority (PA), Area B is under joint Israeli-Palestinian security control, and Area C, which constitutes a significant portion of the West Bank, is under Israeli control. This division reflects a complex arrangement that involves both Israeli and Palestinian governance in different areas.​

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In the Gaza Strip, Hamas, a Palestinian militant group, took control in 2007 after winning legislative elections in 2006 and subsequently ousting the Palestinian Authority from Gaza. Since then, Israel has imposed a blockade on Gaza, citing security concerns. Critics argue that this blockade has had severe humanitarian consequences for the population in Gaza.​

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The conflict has seen various forms of violence and tensions from both sides over the years, including acts of terrorism, military operations, and clashes. It is important to note that generalizing the actions of an entire population based on the actions of specific groups or individuals is not accurate or fair.​

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In any discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it is crucial to recognize the complexity of the situation and avoid oversimplifying the dynamics. Efforts to achieve peace and resolution require addressing the legitimate concerns and aspirations of both Israelis and Palestinians while acknowledging the rights and security concerns of both parties.​

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ME: Why was Israel created?​

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ChatGPT:​

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Israel was created as a result of a series of historical and geopolitical developments, with the key event being the United Nations' approval of the partition plan for Palestine in 1947. The creation of Israel is deeply connected to the aftermath of World War II and the Holocaust, as well as the longstanding Zionist movement.​

Here are the key factors that led to the creation of Israel:​

1. Zionist Movement:
   • The Zionist movement, which emerged in the late 19th century, sought to establish a national homeland for the Jewish people. The idea was to create a Jewish state in the historic land of Israel, which had cultural and religious significance for Jewish communities.
2. Balfour Declaration (1917):
   • During World War I, the British government issued the Balfour Declaration in 1917, expressing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine. This declaration reflected the influence of the Zionist movement and Britain's strategic interests in the region.
3. British Mandate:
   • After World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain the mandate to administer Palestine. However, tensions increased between Jewish and Arab communities as Jewish immigration to the region grew, leading to conflicts.
4. World War II and the Holocaust:
   • The horrors of the Holocaust during World War II, in which six million Jews were systematically murdered by the Nazis, increased international sympathy for the Jewish cause. The global community was more supportive of the idea of a Jewish homeland.
5. United Nations Partition Plan (1947):
   • In 1947, the United Nations proposed a partition plan that would divide Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an international city. The plan was accepted by the Jewish leadership but rejected by Arab leaders, leading to tensions and ultimately conflict.
6. Declaration of the State of Israel (1948):
   • On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, declared the establishment of the State of Israel. The declaration came on the eve of the expiration of the British Mandate. The same day, neighboring Arab states invaded Israel in response to the declaration.

The creation of Israel resulted in a war between the newly formed state and its Arab neighbors, known as the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The conflict marked the beginning of a series of wars and disputes between Israel and its Arab neighbors that have continued for decades. The establishment of Israel had a profound impact on the geopolitics of the Middle East and remains a source of ongoing tensions in the region.\​

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ME: is the division of Israel between the Jewish people and the Palestinians equitable?​

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ChatGPT:​

The division of Israel and the Palestinian territories is a deeply contentious and complex issue, and opinions on its equity vary widely. The situation involves historical, political, religious, and territorial dimensions, and finding a consensus on what constitutes an equitable division is challenging due to the deeply rooted and divergent narratives on both sides.​

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The key historical development relevant to this question is the United Nations Partition Plan of 1947, which proposed the division of British Mandate Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. Jerusalem was to have special international status. The Jewish leadership accepted the plan, but Arab leaders rejected it. Subsequently, the State of Israel was declared in 1948, leading to a war between Israel and its Arab neighbors.​

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The division envisioned by the UN plan did not fully materialize due to the conflict. Instead, Israel declared its independence and expanded its territory beyond the borders proposed by the partition plan. The outcome of the 1948 war left Israel in control of a significant portion of the territory, and subsequent conflicts and wars further shaped the borders and territorial control.​

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Today, the division of Israel and the Palestinian territories includes the State of Israel, the West Bank (administered by the Palestinian Authority), and the Gaza Strip (controlled by Hamas). The status of Jerusalem remains a highly contentious issue, with both Israelis and Palestinians claiming it as their capital.​

Opinions on the equity of this division vary:​

1. Israeli Perspective:
   • Many Israelis argue that the establishment of the State of Israel was a legitimate response to historical and religious connections to the land, as well as the need for a homeland for Jewish people. They may point to Israel's acceptance of the UN partition plan and subsequent military victories as factors justifying their territorial control.
2. Palestinian Perspective:
   • Many Palestinians argue that the division was unfair and resulted in the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in 1948. They express concerns about the continued Israeli presence in the West Bank, the blockade on Gaza, and the status of Jerusalem. Palestinians generally seek self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state.

International opinions on the matter also vary, with some advocating for a two-state solution based on negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians, while others support alternative approaches.​

Ultimately, finding a resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves addressing the concerns and aspirations of both parties and often requires difficult compromises and negotiations. Achieving an equitable division that satisfies both Israeli and Palestinian needs remains a significant challenge in the pursuit of lasting peace in the region.​

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ME: On what grounds did the Arab states reject the United Nations Partition Plan of 1947?​

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ChatGPT:​

The Arab states rejected the United Nations Partition Plan of 1947 for several reasons, reflecting a combination of political, territorial, and ideological concerns. The primary grounds for their rejection included:​

1. Territorial Disagreements:
   • The proposed partition plan allocated specific territories for Jewish and Arab states within Palestine. However, Arab leaders, particularly those of the Arab Higher Committee and the Arab League, opposed the idea of dividing Palestine, arguing that it was unjust to allocate a significant portion of the land to a Jewish state, especially given the Arab majority population.
2. Refusal to Recognize a Jewish State:
   • Arab leaders did not recognize the legitimacy of a Jewish state in Palestine. They rejected the idea of establishing a separate state based on religious or ethnic lines and insisted on the establishment of a single, unified Arab state in Palestine.
3. Concerns about Minority Rights:
   • Arab leaders were concerned about the rights and status of the Arab population that would remain within the proposed Jewish state. They feared that the Arab minority in a Jewish state might face discrimination or unequal treatment.
4. Ideological Opposition:
   • The rejection of the partition plan was also influenced by broader ideological and political considerations. Arab leaders saw the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine as a violation of Arab national interests and sovereignty.
5. Solidarity with the Palestinian Arab Cause:
   • Arab leaders expressed solidarity with the Palestinian Arab cause and their right to self-determination. They viewed the establishment of a Jewish state as an infringement on the rights of the Arab population in Palestine.
6. Belief in Military Solution:
   • Some Arab leaders believed that they could prevent the establishment of a Jewish state through military means. They were confident that, militarily, they could defeat the Zionist forces and maintain control over the entire territory.

As a result of the Arab rejection, the United Nations resolution (Resolution 181) was not implemented as intended. Instead, hostilities erupted between Jewish and Arab communities, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The war resulted in significant territorial changes, with Israel declaring independence and expanding its territory beyond the borders proposed by the partition plan. The rejection of the partition plan and the subsequent war shaped the geopolitical landscape of the region and contributed to the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.​

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ME: please explain the history of Palestine prior to the create of the state of Israel​

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ChatGPT:​

The history of the region that is now referred to as Palestine is rich and complex, spanning thousands of years. The term "Palestine" has been historically used to describe a geographical area rather than a political entity. Here is a brief overview of the history of the region before the creation of the State of Israel in 1948:​

Ancient Times:​

• The region has been inhabited since ancient times, with evidence of human settlement dating back to the prehistoric era.
• It was home to various ancient civilizations, including the Canaanites, Philistines, Israelites, and others.
• Jerusalem became a significant city with religious and cultural importance for various peoples, including Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

Roman Period:​

• In 63 BCE, the Roman Empire conquered the region, leading to the establishment of the province of Judea.
• In 70 CE, the Romans destroyed the Second Temple in Jerusalem, an event that had profound consequences for Jewish history.

Byzantine and Islamic Periods:​

• The region later came under Byzantine rule.
• In the 7th century, Islamic Arab armies conquered the area, leading to the spread of Islam and the establishment of various Islamic empires.

Crusader Period:​

• During the medieval period, the region witnessed the Crusades, with European Christian powers attempting to control Jerusalem.
• The Crusaders established the Kingdom of Jerusalem but were eventually expelled by Muslim forces.

Ottoman Empire:​

• In 1516, the Ottoman Empire, led by the Turks, took control of the region.
• The area remained under Ottoman rule for centuries, with diverse populations, including Muslims, Christians, and Jews, living in relative harmony.

Late 19th and Early 20th Centuries:​

• In the late 19th century, the Zionist movement emerged among Jews in Europe, seeking a national homeland in Palestine.
• Jewish immigration to Palestine increased during the late Ottoman period and the British Mandate period.
• The British took control of the region after World War I under the League of Nations mandate.

British Mandate Period:​

• The League of Nations granted Britain the mandate to administer Palestine.
• Jewish and Arab communities experienced tensions over issues like land, immigration, and self-determination.
• Arab opposition to Jewish immigration and land purchases increased.

United Nations Partition Plan (1947):​

• In 1947, the United Nations proposed a partition plan that would create separate Jewish and Arab states in Palestine, with Jerusalem under international administration.
• Jewish leaders accepted the plan, but Arab leaders rejected it, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

The creation of the State of Israel in 1948 marked a significant turning point in the region's history, leading to ongoing conflicts and geopolitical changes. The historical narratives and interpretations of this period remain a subject of intense debate among various communities and scholars.​

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ME: Please explain the history of Gaza​

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ChatGPT:​

The history of Gaza is long and multifaceted, with the region having been inhabited for thousands of years. Gaza, located on the Mediterranean coast, has a rich history that spans various civilizations and historical periods:​

Ancient and Biblical Periods:​

• Gaza has ancient roots, with evidence of settlement dating back to at least the 15th century BCE.
• It was mentioned in ancient Egyptian texts and played a role in trade routes connecting Egypt and the Levant.
• The city of Gaza is mentioned in the Bible in connection with various historical events and figures.

Classical Periods:​

• Gaza was part of the Hellenistic Seleucid Empire and later came under the control of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt.
• During the Hellenistic and Roman periods, Gaza flourished as a center of commerce and culture.

Byzantine and Islamic Periods:​

• In the 7th century, Arab-Muslim forces conquered Gaza, bringing the region under Islamic rule.
• Throughout the medieval period, Gaza was a significant city under various Islamic empires, including the Umayyads, Abbasids, and Fatimids.

Crusader Period:​

• During the Crusades, Gaza witnessed battles between European Crusaders and Muslim forces.
• It changed hands multiple times between Crusader and Muslim rule.

Ottoman Empire:​

• In 1516, Gaza became part of the Ottoman Empire, under which it experienced periods of stability and growth.
• The Ottomans built structures, including mosques and schools, contributing to the city's cultural and architectural heritage.

British Mandate and 1948 War:​

• After World War I, Gaza came under British control as part of the League of Nations mandate for Palestine.
• During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Egyptian forces took control of Gaza. The armistice agreement that ended the war left Gaza under Egyptian administration.

Israeli Occupation (1967):​

• During the Six-Day War in 1967, Israel captured the Gaza Strip from Egypt. This marked the beginning of Israeli military occupation.
• Israel withdrew its settlements and military presence from Gaza in 2005.

Hamas Takeover:​

• In 2006, Hamas, an Islamist political and militant group, won legislative elections in the Palestinian territories, including Gaza.
• In 2007, following a brief but violent conflict between Hamas and Fatah (the political faction of the Palestinian Authority), Hamas took control of Gaza.

Blockade and Conflicts:​

• Since 2007, Gaza has been under a blockade imposed by Israel and Egypt. The blockade has had significant humanitarian implications, with restrictions on the movement of people and goods.
• Gaza has been the site of multiple conflicts between Israel and Hamas, including wars in 2008-2009, 2012, and 2014.

The history of Gaza is intertwined with the broader history of the region, and its geopolitical status and the well-being of its population continue to be central issues in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The situation in Gaza remains complex, with ongoing challenges related to political, economic, and humanitarian issues.​

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What do you like to say? How helps this all - whatever is right or wrong in this text - to get back all hostages and to wipe out the terror organisation Hamas?

By the way: How help Arabs the Palestinians with humanitarian aid on the Egypt border to Gaza? And what do they do with Hamas-terrorists?

 

[zaangalewa]

They seem intent on killing everyone.. The world has seen this before.

When Jews murdered Nazis in industrialized dimensions in extermination camps, weirdo? The idea "concentration camps" was by he way a British idea. I heard you murdered once in masses Boers (=farmers from the Nethertlands) in concentration camps in Africa. Did you drink tea before or after you murdered them?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Thank you Tommy for your thoughtful comments on the matter. I have purposely stayed away from this topic because it's impossible to discuss without being labeled an antisemite for simply trying to understand the conflict, it's origins and why we're where we are today. So I decided to ask a neutral third-party for an explanation. I don't know if it will all fit here but if not then I'll separate it into a couple of windows:

ME: what is the non-political reason that the Israelis and Palestinians are in conflict​

​

ChatGPT:​

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a complex and longstanding issue with roots in historical, cultural, religious, and territorial factors. While political issues are significant, there are also non-political reasons contributing to the conflict. Some of these include:​

1. Historical and Cultural Narratives:
   • Claims to the Land: Both Israelis and Palestinians have historical and cultural ties to the land, each asserting a connection that dates back centuries. The competition for the same territory has fueled tensions.
2. Religious Differences:
   • Religious Significance: Jerusalem holds religious significance for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Disputes over control of religious sites, such as the Temple Mount, have intensified the conflict.
3. Nationalism and Identity:
   • Nationalistic Aspirations: Both Israelis and Palestinians have strong nationalistic aspirations and identities tied to the land. The desire for self-determination and sovereignty has led to conflicting claims.
4. Refugee Issue:
   • Displacement: The creation of Israel in 1948 resulted in the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, leading to a longstanding refugee issue. This contributes to a sense of injustice and fuels resentment.
5. Water and Resource Scarcity:
   • Limited Resources: The region faces challenges related to water scarcity and resource distribution. Control over water sources and access to resources can become points of contention.
6. Security Concerns:
   • Security and Terrorism: Israel has faced security concerns, including acts of terrorism. This has led to a focus on securing borders and preventing attacks, often resulting in measures that generate tension.
7. Settlements and Land Disputes:
   • Israeli Settlements: The construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank has been a major source of tension. Palestinians view these settlements as a violation of their territorial rights.
8. Economic Disparities:
   • Economic Inequality: There are significant economic disparities between Israel and the Palestinian territories. These disparities can contribute to social and political tensions.

Understanding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves recognizing the interconnectedness of these various factors. Resolving the conflict requires addressing both political and non-political dimensions, considering the historical, cultural, and societal aspects that contribute to the complexities of the issue.​

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ME: do the israelis control or hold the Palestinians captive in any manner?

​

ChatGPT:​

The situation between Israelis and Palestinians is highly complex and contentious, and perspectives on whether Israelis control or hold Palestinians captive can vary based on one's point of view. It's important to note that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a deeply rooted political and territorial dispute with historical, cultural, and religious dimensions. Different parties involved in the conflict may view the situation differently.​

​

Critics of Israeli policies argue that factors such as the construction of settlements in the West Bank, restrictions on the movement of people and goods, and the presence of security barriers contribute to a situation where Palestinians may feel confined or restricted. Additionally, critics point to the impact of the Israeli military presence in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.​

​

From the Israeli perspective, security concerns and the history of conflict, including acts of terrorism, have influenced policies aimed at protecting Israeli citizens. Security measures such as checkpoints, restrictions on movement, and military presence in certain areas are often framed as necessary for self-defense.​

​

The Gaza Strip, in particular, has been a focal point of contention. Israel withdrew its settlements and military forces from Gaza in 2005, but the territory has since been the site of conflicts between Israel and Hamas, the Palestinian militant group in control of Gaza. Israel imposes a blockade on Gaza, which it argues is necessary to prevent the smuggling of weapons and materials that could be used for attacks.​

​

International organizations and human rights groups have raised concerns about the impact of certain Israeli policies on the well-being and rights of Palestinians, including issues related to freedom of movement, access to resources, and living conditions.​

​

It's essential to approach discussions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with an awareness of the complexity of the issues involved, recognizing the diverse perspectives and experiences of both Israelis and Palestinians. Efforts toward a peaceful resolution often involve addressing political, economic, and social aspects of the conflict to ensure the rights and security of both parties.​

​

ME: Do the Palestinians control or hold the Israelis captive in any manner?​

​

ChatGPT:​

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The situation between Israelis and Palestinians is a complex and multifaceted conflict, and the characterization of one side "controlling" or "holding captive" the other is highly contentious. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves historical, political, and territorial disputes with deep-rooted grievances on both sides.​

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In terms of control, the West Bank is a particularly sensitive area where both Israelis and Palestinians exert varying degrees of influence. The Oslo Accords, signed in the 1990s, divided the West Bank into Areas A, B, and C. Area A is under the control of the Palestinian Authority (PA), Area B is under joint Israeli-Palestinian security control, and Area C, which constitutes a significant portion of the West Bank, is under Israeli control. This division reflects a complex arrangement that involves both Israeli and Palestinian governance in different areas.​

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In the Gaza Strip, Hamas, a Palestinian militant group, took control in 2007 after winning legislative elections in 2006 and subsequently ousting the Palestinian Authority from Gaza. Since then, Israel has imposed a blockade on Gaza, citing security concerns. Critics argue that this blockade has had severe humanitarian consequences for the population in Gaza.​

​

The conflict has seen various forms of violence and tensions from both sides over the years, including acts of terrorism, military operations, and clashes. It is important to note that generalizing the actions of an entire population based on the actions of specific groups or individuals is not accurate or fair.​

​

In any discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it is crucial to recognize the complexity of the situation and avoid oversimplifying the dynamics. Efforts to achieve peace and resolution require addressing the legitimate concerns and aspirations of both Israelis and Palestinians while acknowledging the rights and security concerns of both parties.​

​

ME: Why was Israel created?​

​

ChatGPT:​

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Israel was created as a result of a series of historical and geopolitical developments, with the key event being the United Nations' approval of the partition plan for Palestine in 1947. The creation of Israel is deeply connected to the aftermath of World War II and the Holocaust, as well as the longstanding Zionist movement.​

Here are the key factors that led to the creation of Israel:​

1. Zionist Movement:
   • The Zionist movement, which emerged in the late 19th century, sought to establish a national homeland for the Jewish people. The idea was to create a Jewish state in the historic land of Israel, which had cultural and religious significance for Jewish communities.
2. Balfour Declaration (1917):
   • During World War I, the British government issued the Balfour Declaration in 1917, expressing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine. This declaration reflected the influence of the Zionist movement and Britain's strategic interests in the region.
3. British Mandate:
   • After World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain the mandate to administer Palestine. However, tensions increased between Jewish and Arab communities as Jewish immigration to the region grew, leading to conflicts.
4. World War II and the Holocaust:
   • The horrors of the Holocaust during World War II, in which six million Jews were systematically murdered by the Nazis, increased international sympathy for the Jewish cause. The global community was more supportive of the idea of a Jewish homeland.
5. United Nations Partition Plan (1947):
   • In 1947, the United Nations proposed a partition plan that would divide Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an international city. The plan was accepted by the Jewish leadership but rejected by Arab leaders, leading to tensions and ultimately conflict.
6. Declaration of the State of Israel (1948):
   • On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, declared the establishment of the State of Israel. The declaration came on the eve of the expiration of the British Mandate. The same day, neighboring Arab states invaded Israel in response to the declaration.

The creation of Israel resulted in a war between the newly formed state and its Arab neighbors, known as the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The conflict marked the beginning of a series of wars and disputes between Israel and its Arab neighbors that have continued for decades. The establishment of Israel had a profound impact on the geopolitics of the Middle East and remains a source of ongoing tensions in the region.\​

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ME: is the division of Israel between the Jewish people and the Palestinians equitable?​

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ChatGPT:​

The division of Israel and the Palestinian territories is a deeply contentious and complex issue, and opinions on its equity vary widely. The situation involves historical, political, religious, and territorial dimensions, and finding a consensus on what constitutes an equitable division is challenging due to the deeply rooted and divergent narratives on both sides.​

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The key historical development relevant to this question is the United Nations Partition Plan of 1947, which proposed the division of British Mandate Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. Jerusalem was to have special international status. The Jewish leadership accepted the plan, but Arab leaders rejected it. Subsequently, the State of Israel was declared in 1948, leading to a war between Israel and its Arab neighbors.​

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The division envisioned by the UN plan did not fully materialize due to the conflict. Instead, Israel declared its independence and expanded its territory beyond the borders proposed by the partition plan. The outcome of the 1948 war left Israel in control of a significant portion of the territory, and subsequent conflicts and wars further shaped the borders and territorial control.​

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Today, the division of Israel and the Palestinian territories includes the State of Israel, the West Bank (administered by the Palestinian Authority), and the Gaza Strip (controlled by Hamas). The status of Jerusalem remains a highly contentious issue, with both Israelis and Palestinians claiming it as their capital.​

Opinions on the equity of this division vary:​

1. Israeli Perspective:
   • Many Israelis argue that the establishment of the State of Israel was a legitimate response to historical and religious connections to the land, as well as the need for a homeland for Jewish people. They may point to Israel's acceptance of the UN partition plan and subsequent military victories as factors justifying their territorial control.
2. Palestinian Perspective:
   • Many Palestinians argue that the division was unfair and resulted in the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in 1948. They express concerns about the continued Israeli presence in the West Bank, the blockade on Gaza, and the status of Jerusalem. Palestinians generally seek self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state.

International opinions on the matter also vary, with some advocating for a two-state solution based on negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians, while others support alternative approaches.​

Ultimately, finding a resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves addressing the concerns and aspirations of both parties and often requires difficult compromises and negotiations. Achieving an equitable division that satisfies both Israeli and Palestinian needs remains a significant challenge in the pursuit of lasting peace in the region.​

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ME: On what grounds did the Arab states reject the United Nations Partition Plan of 1947?​

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ChatGPT:​

The Arab states rejected the United Nations Partition Plan of 1947 for several reasons, reflecting a combination of political, territorial, and ideological concerns. The primary grounds for their rejection included:​

1. Territorial Disagreements:
   • The proposed partition plan allocated specific territories for Jewish and Arab states within Palestine. However, Arab leaders, particularly those of the Arab Higher Committee and the Arab League, opposed the idea of dividing Palestine, arguing that it was unjust to allocate a significant portion of the land to a Jewish state, especially given the Arab majority population.
2. Refusal to Recognize a Jewish State:
   • Arab leaders did not recognize the legitimacy of a Jewish state in Palestine. They rejected the idea of establishing a separate state based on religious or ethnic lines and insisted on the establishment of a single, unified Arab state in Palestine.
3. Concerns about Minority Rights:
   • Arab leaders were concerned about the rights and status of the Arab population that would remain within the proposed Jewish state. They feared that the Arab minority in a Jewish state might face discrimination or unequal treatment.
4. Ideological Opposition:
   • The rejection of the partition plan was also influenced by broader ideological and political considerations. Arab leaders saw the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine as a violation of Arab national interests and sovereignty.
5. Solidarity with the Palestinian Arab Cause:
   • Arab leaders expressed solidarity with the Palestinian Arab cause and their right to self-determination. They viewed the establishment of a Jewish state as an infringement on the rights of the Arab population in Palestine.
6. Belief in Military Solution:
   • Some Arab leaders believed that they could prevent the establishment of a Jewish state through military means. They were confident that, militarily, they could defeat the Zionist forces and maintain control over the entire territory.

As a result of the Arab rejection, the United Nations resolution (Resolution 181) was not implemented as intended. Instead, hostilities erupted between Jewish and Arab communities, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The war resulted in significant territorial changes, with Israel declaring independence and expanding its territory beyond the borders proposed by the partition plan. The rejection of the partition plan and the subsequent war shaped the geopolitical landscape of the region and contributed to the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.​

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ME: please explain the history of Palestine prior to the create of the state of Israel​

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ChatGPT:​

The history of the region that is now referred to as Palestine is rich and complex, spanning thousands of years. The term "Palestine" has been historically used to describe a geographical area rather than a political entity. Here is a brief overview of the history of the region before the creation of the State of Israel in 1948:​

Ancient Times:​

• The region has been inhabited since ancient times, with evidence of human settlement dating back to the prehistoric era.
• It was home to various ancient civilizations, including the Canaanites, Philistines, Israelites, and others.
• Jerusalem became a significant city with religious and cultural importance for various peoples, including Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

Roman Period:​

• In 63 BCE, the Roman Empire conquered the region, leading to the establishment of the province of Judea.
• In 70 CE, the Romans destroyed the Second Temple in Jerusalem, an event that had profound consequences for Jewish history.

Byzantine and Islamic Periods:​

• The region later came under Byzantine rule.
• In the 7th century, Islamic Arab armies conquered the area, leading to the spread of Islam and the establishment of various Islamic empires.

Crusader Period:​

• During the medieval period, the region witnessed the Crusades, with European Christian powers attempting to control Jerusalem.
• The Crusaders established the Kingdom of Jerusalem but were eventually expelled by Muslim forces.

Ottoman Empire:​

• In 1516, the Ottoman Empire, led by the Turks, took control of the region.
• The area remained under Ottoman rule for centuries, with diverse populations, including Muslims, Christians, and Jews, living in relative harmony.

Late 19th and Early 20th Centuries:​

• In the late 19th century, the Zionist movement emerged among Jews in Europe, seeking a national homeland in Palestine.
• Jewish immigration to Palestine increased during the late Ottoman period and the British Mandate period.
• The British took control of the region after World War I under the League of Nations mandate.

British Mandate Period:​

• The League of Nations granted Britain the mandate to administer Palestine.
• Jewish and Arab communities experienced tensions over issues like land, immigration, and self-determination.
• Arab opposition to Jewish immigration and land purchases increased.

United Nations Partition Plan (1947):​

• In 1947, the United Nations proposed a partition plan that would create separate Jewish and Arab states in Palestine, with Jerusalem under international administration.
• Jewish leaders accepted the plan, but Arab leaders rejected it, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

The creation of the State of Israel in 1948 marked a significant turning point in the region's history, leading to ongoing conflicts and geopolitical changes. The historical narratives and interpretations of this period remain a subject of intense debate among various communities and scholars.​

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ME: Please explain the history of Gaza​

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ChatGPT:​

The history of Gaza is long and multifaceted, with the region having been inhabited for thousands of years. Gaza, located on the Mediterranean coast, has a rich history that spans various civilizations and historical periods:​

Ancient and Biblical Periods:​

• Gaza has ancient roots, with evidence of settlement dating back to at least the 15th century BCE.
• It was mentioned in ancient Egyptian texts and played a role in trade routes connecting Egypt and the Levant.
• The city of Gaza is mentioned in the Bible in connection with various historical events and figures.

Classical Periods:​

• Gaza was part of the Hellenistic Seleucid Empire and later came under the control of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt.
• During the Hellenistic and Roman periods, Gaza flourished as a center of commerce and culture.

Byzantine and Islamic Periods:​

• In the 7th century, Arab-Muslim forces conquered Gaza, bringing the region under Islamic rule.
• Throughout the medieval period, Gaza was a significant city under various Islamic empires, including the Umayyads, Abbasids, and Fatimids.

Crusader Period:​

• During the Crusades, Gaza witnessed battles between European Crusaders and Muslim forces.
• It changed hands multiple times between Crusader and Muslim rule.

Ottoman Empire:​

• In 1516, Gaza became part of the Ottoman Empire, under which it experienced periods of stability and growth.
• The Ottomans built structures, including mosques and schools, contributing to the city's cultural and architectural heritage.

British Mandate and 1948 War:​

• After World War I, Gaza came under British control as part of the League of Nations mandate for Palestine.
• During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Egyptian forces took control of Gaza. The armistice agreement that ended the war left Gaza under Egyptian administration.

Israeli Occupation (1967):​

• During the Six-Day War in 1967, Israel captured the Gaza Strip from Egypt. This marked the beginning of Israeli military occupation.
• Israel withdrew its settlements and military presence from Gaza in 2005.

Hamas Takeover:​

• In 2006, Hamas, an Islamist political and militant group, won legislative elections in the Palestinian territories, including Gaza.
• In 2007, following a brief but violent conflict between Hamas and Fatah (the political faction of the Palestinian Authority), Hamas took control of Gaza.

Blockade and Conflicts:​

• Since 2007, Gaza has been under a blockade imposed by Israel and Egypt. The blockade has had significant humanitarian implications, with restrictions on the movement of people and goods.
• Gaza has been the site of multiple conflicts between Israel and Hamas, including wars in 2008-2009, 2012, and 2014.

The history of Gaza is intertwined with the broader history of the region, and its geopolitical status and the well-being of its population continue to be central issues in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The situation in Gaza remains complex, with ongoing challenges related to political, economic, and humanitarian issues.​

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