Time to form a moderate party

[Flopper]

It was based on Constitutional principles not compromise on those specific rules. That changed in the early 1900's when we began compromising ourselves away from those principles.

Moderate means nothing more than giving up.

The constitution was one huge compromise of principals and without those compromises, our nation would not have existed. Many laws and constitutional amendments we have passed compromised our liberties in one way or another but without those compromises the nation could not have grown to be the most power nation on earth and the envy of the world.

Constitutional Compromises

No it wasn't. It was written by people that stood firm against the socialist and monarchy people of the time. They were so far from negotiation they actually did something the rest of the world never had the balls to do in spite of the left leaning *ssholes involved. Our nation exists because of strong willed people that wouldn't compromise with the big government types.

What exactly do you think is in the Constitution that was a compromise? It seems pretty damn straight forward to me. Lefties got nothing in that document.

The large states wanted a legislature with representation based only population which provided equally representation for every citizen in the nation but compromised with the smaller states that wanted equal representation for each state giving us a bicameral legislature. (The Great Connecticut Compromise)

Northern abolitionists wanted the Constitution to ban the (external) slave trade yet they compromised with Southerns allowing Congress to ban the trade after 1808. (Slave Trade Compromise)

The delegates compromised their principals on these and many other issues in order to create this great nation. Our founders were not principled idealist who refused to compromise but rather practical men ready to do what was necessary. Had the polarization we have in congress today existed in 1776, the nation would have been nothing more than pipe dream.

 

[Politico]

Time to form a moderate party

Jump on it frog. Oh wait....

You don't do anything. Just post on the internets.

 

[editec]

What this nation needs is a NATIONALIST PARTY.

What this nation has is TWO INTERNATIONALIST parties.

 

[ba1614]

What we need is a party that will honor the greatest document ever written, the American Constitution, for what it says, not what they think it means.

It really is that simple.

 

[flacaltenn]

It was based on Constitutional principles not compromise on those specific rules. That changed in the early 1900's when we began compromising ourselves away from those principles.

Moderate means nothing more than giving up.

The constitution was one huge compromise of principals and without those compromises, our nation would not have existed. Many laws and constitutional amendments we have passed compromised our liberties in one way or another but without those compromises the nation could not have grown to be the most power nation on earth and the envy of the world.

Constitutional Compromises

No it wasn't. It was written by people that stood firm against the socialist and monarchy people of the time. They were so far from negotiation they actually did something the rest of the world never had the balls to do in spite of the left leaning *ssholes involved. Our nation exists because of strong willed people that wouldn't compromise with the big government types.

What exactly do you think is in the Constitution that was a compromise? It seems pretty damn straight forward to me. Lefties got nothing in that document.

THe largest compromise they made was a having a Federal govt with any real powers at all...

 

[flacaltenn]

You want "moderates" and you get John McCain and Patrick Leahy.

The number of folks who love their politics can fit in a Starbucks..

 

[NightFox]

Both blue dog democrats and moderate republicans need to form a party of sanity. .

Yeah things aren't bad enough with Democrats and Republicans, what we really need is a another political crime family made up of the worst aspects of both of 'em.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If people wanted moderates they would vote for them.

Romney, McCain, and Dole were the very best we had at the time. The best candidate from the far right would have lost by another five points, at least.

 

[dblack]

Both blue dog democrats and moderate republicans need to form a party of sanity. .

Yeah things aren't bad enough with Democrats and Republicans, what we really need is a another political crime family made up of the worst aspects of both of 'em.

That sure seems to be where most self-proclaimed "moderates" or "centrists" reside. Pretty much just cover for corporatists and authoritarians.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Both blue dog democrats and moderate republicans need to form a party of sanity. .

Yeah things aren't bad enough with Democrats and Republicans, what we really need is a another political crime family made up of the worst aspects of both of 'em.

That sure seems to be where most self-proclaimed "moderates" or "centrists" reside. Pretty much just cover for corporatists and authoritarians.

That's an opinion, a silly one, but an opinion nonetheless.

 

[Yurt]

If people wanted moderates they would vote for them.

Romney, McCain, and Dole were the very best we had at the time. The best candidate from the far right would have lost by another five points, at least.

jeb bush is better than all of them reactionary

 

[JakeStarkey]

If people wanted moderates they would vote for them.

Romney, McCain, and Dole were the very best we had at the time. The best candidate from the far right would have lost by another five points, at least.

jeb bush is better than all of them reactionary

Link?

 

[dblack]

Yeah things aren't bad enough with Democrats and Republicans, what we really need is a another political crime family made up of the worst aspects of both of 'em.

That sure seems to be where most self-proclaimed "moderates" or "centrists" reside. Pretty much just cover for corporatists and authoritarians.

That's an opinion, a silly one, but an opinion nonetheless.

Speak of the devil.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nah, that's the mirror into which you are talking.

 

[JohnL.Burke]

If people wanted moderates they would vote for them.

Romney, McCain, and Dole were the very best we had at the time. The best candidate from the far right would have lost by another five points, at least.

I don't really think sending out republican versions of Obama-light or what a left wing press describes as a "moderate" is a good plan for the republican party. Hasn't worked yet anyway.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If people wanted moderates they would vote for them.

Romney, McCain, and Dole were the very best we had at the time. The best candidate from the far right would have lost by another five points, at least.

I don't really think sending out republican versions of Obama-light or what a left wing press describes as a "moderate" is a good plan for the republican party. Hasn't worked yet anyway.

Your meat of your opinion is why it is not accepted in the mainstream party.

 

[JohnL.Burke]

Romney, McCain, and Dole were the very best we had at the time. The best candidate from the far right would have lost by another five points, at least.

I don't really think sending out republican versions of Obama-light or what a left wing press describes as a "moderate" is a good plan for the republican party. Hasn't worked yet anyway.

Your meat of your opinion is why it is not accepted in the mainstream party.

what does my meat have to do with it?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The "meat" is this: your far right candidates somehow will do better than McCain, Romney, Dole.

The meat of your argument is spoiled, toxic, stupid.

 

[JohnL.Burke]

The "meat" is this: your far right candidates somehow will do better than McCain, Romney, Dole.

The meat of your argument is spoiled, toxic, stupid.

Why don't we try it first before we condemn the notion. Your way has led to failure.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The "meat" is this: your far right candidates somehow will do better than McCain, Romney, Dole.

The meat of your argument is spoiled, toxic, stupid.

Why don't we try it first before we condemn the notion.

We have repeatedly in the national primaries. John, if they can't win there, they can't win nationally. I am not saying 'don't do it', I am saying it won't happen the way you want.