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I agree, wouldn’t want to compromise sources and methods but the stakes are pretty damn high here and I see a country morning the loss of a highly respected general who we assassinated. They are vowing retribution which could very well lead to war. War involves not just our country but likely our allies so it is imperative to share our intel with our congress and our allies.I agree in general, and I think the world would accept solid evidence (except for those who won't accept anything for other reasons).After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
The problem is always this: Exposing critical intel may also expose the methodology we used to acquire it. So reporting it may be counter-productive, and leaving it out might not be persuasive. A Catch-22.
What I'd like to see is leaders from the opposing party being shown the intel, and then coming out in favor of what happened. Unfortunately, I really can't trust them to be honest (regardless of the party), so that might be a waste of time, too.
Maybe having another country come out in support after seeing the intel might work. It's a shame that it's so difficult to trust people in such critical times.
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They especially need to show that we have steady deliberate leadership. Not seeing it at this point.The stakes are too high, we are talking about war with Iran. There is a time to show our cards and this is one of those times. The kill needs to be justified and explainedAfter watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
Don't be stupid. Intel revealed shows how intel was gathered. General Sulu played a calculated game and lost.
So if it was so easy why has this ben going on for nearly 20 years and 2 trillion dollars.hahahha-Iran is also a shithole like the rest of the Middle EastLooks like you think we are dealing with the military retards who worked for Saddam. You'll see we are dealing with something way harder to defeat if Trump can't find some way to deescalate things.you also do not know about history or military historyThe imminent attack excuse does not make sense. This man was a general in charge of a large international operation. Killing him does practically nothing to stop any ongoing operation that we can assume was handled through whatever command structure that exists. They are lying. Someone else will be promoted to his position and Iran has a new martyr to rally around. You can't kill martyrs.
..there are great generals and there are idiot generals...if they replace him with an idiot general--that's good
......Iraq had one of the largest, combat EXPERIENCED armies in the world--much more combat experience than the US forces -----yet we went through them like a hot knife through butter ...and Iran didn't defeat Iraq in the YEARS long Iran-Iraq War
At this point we don’t know either way. I hope to God you are not right because if this was a political move then it’s going to be a disaster. I don’t think it was though. To many people would have to lie and cover up for the immanent threat story.The snag is there is no intelligence to go public with – no compelling evidence that Soleimani was a clear and present danger justifying he be assassinated.After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
Soleimani was killed for political reasons, not strategic.
Indeed, the attack has only further destabilized the Region, placed American interests and allies in greater jeopardy, and increased the likelihood of war in the ME.
As usual you have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry that I’m not pumped to go to war with Iran. I have a little more respect for our troops than that.After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
Poor Communists, you lost a close ally. We understand that you are inconsolable. It's no different than had we killed bin Laden prior to 9-11, you're outraged..
well perhaps our leader should focus more on building trust and cooperation instead of sewing hate division... it’s time like these when we need allies and unity. Tough when nobody trusts a thing our POTUS saysI agree, wouldn’t want to compromise sources and methods but the stakes are pretty damn high here and I see a country morning the loss of a highly respected general who we assassinated. They are vowing retribution which could very well lead to war. War involves not just our country but likely our allies so it is imperative to share our intel with our congress and our allies.I agree in general, and I think the world would accept solid evidence (except for those who won't accept anything for other reasons).After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
The problem is always this: Exposing critical intel may also expose the methodology we used to acquire it. So reporting it may be counter-productive, and leaving it out might not be persuasive. A Catch-22.
What I'd like to see is leaders from the opposing party being shown the intel, and then coming out in favor of what happened. Unfortunately, I really can't trust them to be honest (regardless of the party), so that might be a waste of time, too.
Maybe having another country come out in support after seeing the intel might work. It's a shame that it's so difficult to trust people in such critical times.
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There are factions in Congress with which it would be unwise to share information. They cannot be trusted. That's a fact.
Europe ran to the arms of socialism almost as soon as the Wall came down. Our allies are changing seats.
You do not know what you are talking about. I can guarantee that the realist generals who have to actually conduct a war are sweating bullets. Not saying that Iran can win but they will make victory so expensive that it seems like a defeat.hahahha-Iran is also a shithole like the rest of the Middle EastLooks like you think we are dealing with the military retards who worked for Saddam. You'll see we are dealing with something way harder to defeat if Trump can't find some way to deescalate things.you also do not know about history or military historyThe imminent attack excuse does not make sense. This man was a general in charge of a large international operation. Killing him does practically nothing to stop any ongoing operation that we can assume was handled through whatever command structure that exists. They are lying. Someone else will be promoted to his position and Iran has a new martyr to rally around. You can't kill martyrs.
..there are great generals and there are idiot generals...if they replace him with an idiot general--that's good
......Iraq had one of the largest, combat EXPERIENCED armies in the world--much more combat experience than the US forces -----yet we went through them like a hot knife through butter ...and Iran didn't defeat Iraq in the YEARS long Iran-Iraq War
As usual you have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry that I’m not pumped to go to war with Iran. I have a little more respect for our troops than that.After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
Poor Communists, you lost a close ally. We understand that you are inconsolable. It's no different than had we killed bin Laden prior to 9-11, you're outraged..
No one is going to war. It was a surgical strike that took out a terrorist leader who was supported by Barack Obama. This hurts the party in the upcoming elections and the war bullshit is a desperate attempt to spin this away from a total win for Trump and the Americans.
You obviously haven’t been paying attention to the reaction overseas. At this point I don’t know why I’d expect you to be informed before coming to these discussionsAs usual you have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry that I’m not pumped to go to war with Iran. I have a little more respect for our troops than that.After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
Poor Communists, you lost a close ally. We understand that you are inconsolable. It's no different than had we killed bin Laden prior to 9-11, you're outraged..
No one is going to war. It was a surgical strike that took out a terrorist leader who was supported by Barack Obama. This hurts the party in the upcoming elections and the war bullshit is a desperate attempt to spin this away from a total win for Trump and the Americans.
PG1 is NOT going on --it's overSo if it was so easy why has this ben going on for nearly 20 years and 2 trillion dollars.hahahha-Iran is also a shithole like the rest of the Middle EastLooks like you think we are dealing with the military retards who worked for Saddam. You'll see we are dealing with something way harder to defeat if Trump can't find some way to deescalate things.you also do not know about history or military historyThe imminent attack excuse does not make sense. This man was a general in charge of a large international operation. Killing him does practically nothing to stop any ongoing operation that we can assume was handled through whatever command structure that exists. They are lying. Someone else will be promoted to his position and Iran has a new martyr to rally around. You can't kill martyrs.
..there are great generals and there are idiot generals...if they replace him with an idiot general--that's good
......Iraq had one of the largest, combat EXPERIENCED armies in the world--much more combat experience than the US forces -----yet we went through them like a hot knife through butter ...and Iran didn't defeat Iraq in the YEARS long Iran-Iraq War
As usual you have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry that I’m not pumped to go to war with Iran. I have a little more respect for our troops than that.After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
Poor Communists, you lost a close ally. We understand that you are inconsolable. It's no different than had we killed bin Laden prior to 9-11, you're outraged..
..that's EXACTLY what they said about PG1--with the ground attack that lasted about a monthYou do not know what you are talking about. I can guarantee that the realist generals who have to actually conduct a war are sweating bullets. Not saying that Iran can win but they will make victory so expensive that it seems like a defeat.hahahha-Iran is also a shithole like the rest of the Middle EastLooks like you think we are dealing with the military retards who worked for Saddam. You'll see we are dealing with something way harder to defeat if Trump can't find some way to deescalate things.you also do not know about history or military historyThe imminent attack excuse does not make sense. This man was a general in charge of a large international operation. Killing him does practically nothing to stop any ongoing operation that we can assume was handled through whatever command structure that exists. They are lying. Someone else will be promoted to his position and Iran has a new martyr to rally around. You can't kill martyrs.
..there are great generals and there are idiot generals...if they replace him with an idiot general--that's good
......Iraq had one of the largest, combat EXPERIENCED armies in the world--much more combat experience than the US forces -----yet we went through them like a hot knife through butter ...and Iran didn't defeat Iraq in the YEARS long Iran-Iraq War
..that's what they said about Churchill in WW2well perhaps our leader should focus more on building trust and cooperation instead of sewing hate division... it’s time like these when we need allies and unity. Tough when nobody trusts a thing our POTUS saysI agree, wouldn’t want to compromise sources and methods but the stakes are pretty damn high here and I see a country morning the loss of a highly respected general who we assassinated. They are vowing retribution which could very well lead to war. War involves not just our country but likely our allies so it is imperative to share our intel with our congress and our allies.I agree in general, and I think the world would accept solid evidence (except for those who won't accept anything for other reasons).After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
The problem is always this: Exposing critical intel may also expose the methodology we used to acquire it. So reporting it may be counter-productive, and leaving it out might not be persuasive. A Catch-22.
What I'd like to see is leaders from the opposing party being shown the intel, and then coming out in favor of what happened. Unfortunately, I really can't trust them to be honest (regardless of the party), so that might be a waste of time, too.
Maybe having another country come out in support after seeing the intel might work. It's a shame that it's so difficult to trust people in such critical times.
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There are factions in Congress with which it would be unwise to share information. They cannot be trusted. That's a fact.
Europe ran to the arms of socialism almost as soon as the Wall came down. Our allies are changing seats.
intel that starts a war is pretty damn important don’t you think? WMDs ring a bell? In retrospect don’t you think that intel should have been shared and verified?After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
It don’t make a lot of sense but it the reasoning the admin is going with which is why I think the intel needs to be made publicThe imminent attack excuse does not make sense. This man was a general in charge of a large international operation. Killing him does practically nothing to stop any ongoing operation that we can assume was handled through whatever command structure that exists. They are lying. Someone else will be promoted to his position and Iran has a new martyr to rally around. You can't kill martyrs.
NOPE
There’s lots of “intelligence” the public should never be privy to. If filthy LefTards will feel fucked off by the Trump admin for not sharing this bit of intel my bet is he won’t release it.
So our troops are home and we have quit spending money huh?LOLPG1 is NOT going on --it's overSo if it was so easy why has this ben going on for nearly 20 years and 2 trillion dollars.hahahha-Iran is also a shithole like the rest of the Middle EastLooks like you think we are dealing with the military retards who worked for Saddam. You'll see we are dealing with something way harder to defeat if Trump can't find some way to deescalate things.you also do not know about history or military historyThe imminent attack excuse does not make sense. This man was a general in charge of a large international operation. Killing him does practically nothing to stop any ongoing operation that we can assume was handled through whatever command structure that exists. They are lying. Someone else will be promoted to his position and Iran has a new martyr to rally around. You can't kill martyrs.
..there are great generals and there are idiot generals...if they replace him with an idiot general--that's good
......Iraq had one of the largest, combat EXPERIENCED armies in the world--much more combat experience than the US forces -----yet we went through them like a hot knife through butter ...and Iran didn't defeat Iraq in the YEARS long Iran-Iraq War
....hahahhahaha--key word is ''respected''' ---as in the Iranians respect him ----like the Germans respected hitler and HeydrichI agree, wouldn’t want to compromise sources and methods but the stakes are pretty damn high here and I see a country morning the loss of a highly respected general who we assassinated. They are vowing retribution which could very well lead to war. War involves not just our country but likely our allies so it is imperative to share our intel with our congress and our allies. I think a public explanation needs to be made. Either show the evidence of what threat we faced or gather statements from our leaders and our allies to stand behind the actions.I agree in general, and I think the world would accept solid evidence (except for those who won't accept anything for other reasons).After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
The problem is always this: Exposing critical intel may also expose the methodology we used to acquire it. So reporting it may be counter-productive, and leaving it out might not be persuasive. A Catch-22.
What I'd like to see is leaders from the opposing party being shown the intel, and then coming out in favor of what happened. Unfortunately, I really can't trust them to be honest (regardless of the party), so that might be a waste of time, too.
Maybe having another country come out in support after seeing the intel might work. It's a shame that it's so difficult to trust people in such critical times.
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well perhaps our leader should focus more on building trust and cooperation instead of sewing hate division... it’s time like these when we need allies and unity. Tough when nobody trusts a thing our POTUS saysI agree, wouldn’t want to compromise sources and methods but the stakes are pretty damn high here and I see a country morning the loss of a highly respected general who we assassinated. They are vowing retribution which could very well lead to war. War involves not just our country but likely our allies so it is imperative to share our intel with our congress and our allies.I agree in general, and I think the world would accept solid evidence (except for those who won't accept anything for other reasons).After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
The problem is always this: Exposing critical intel may also expose the methodology we used to acquire it. So reporting it may be counter-productive, and leaving it out might not be persuasive. A Catch-22.
What I'd like to see is leaders from the opposing party being shown the intel, and then coming out in favor of what happened. Unfortunately, I really can't trust them to be honest (regardless of the party), so that might be a waste of time, too.
Maybe having another country come out in support after seeing the intel might work. It's a shame that it's so difficult to trust people in such critical times.
.
There are factions in Congress with which it would be unwise to share information. They cannot be trusted. That's a fact.
Europe ran to the arms of socialism almost as soon as the Wall came down. Our allies are changing seats.
PG1 is over --we went through them very fast--undeniableSo our troops are home and we have quit spending money huh?LOLPG1 is NOT going on --it's overSo if it was so easy why has this ben going on for nearly 20 years and 2 trillion dollars.hahahha-Iran is also a shithole like the rest of the Middle EastLooks like you think we are dealing with the military retards who worked for Saddam. You'll see we are dealing with something way harder to defeat if Trump can't find some way to deescalate things.you also do not know about history or military history
..there are great generals and there are idiot generals...if they replace him with an idiot general--that's good
......Iraq had one of the largest, combat EXPERIENCED armies in the world--much more combat experience than the US forces -----yet we went through them like a hot knife through butter ...and Iran didn't defeat Iraq in the YEARS long Iran-Iraq War
So if it was so easy why has this ben going on for nearly 20 years and 2 trillion dollars.hahahha-Iran is also a shithole like the rest of the Middle EastLooks like you think we are dealing with the military retards who worked for Saddam. You'll see we are dealing with something way harder to defeat if Trump can't find some way to deescalate things.you also do not know about history or military historyThe imminent attack excuse does not make sense. This man was a general in charge of a large international operation. Killing him does practically nothing to stop any ongoing operation that we can assume was handled through whatever command structure that exists. They are lying. Someone else will be promoted to his position and Iran has a new martyr to rally around. You can't kill martyrs.
..there are great generals and there are idiot generals...if they replace him with an idiot general--that's good
......Iraq had one of the largest, combat EXPERIENCED armies in the world--much more combat experience than the US forces -----yet we went through them like a hot knife through butter ...and Iran didn't defeat Iraq in the YEARS long Iran-Iraq War
