Ray From Cleveland
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No, I'm independent for a reason. I don't think either party have earned my every vote. They both have far too many failures. Best to vote out who is currently doing a bad job.Because the partisans like you don't care. You vote republican no matter how much shit they serve you.Petty crap. Lying to people to destroy an entire industry is different than lying about who is going to pay for a Fn wall.
You keep trying to change the subject, we are not talking about who's lies are worse, but why Trump lies.
Okay, why did they all lie?
Just like you vote Democrat for the same reason. Elections are not about getting your guy in, elections are about keeping the other guy out. If my only concern is a politician lying, then I shouldn't even be allowed to vote. We have far more concerning issues than petty shit like that.
So unlike you on the left, I'm not concerned about what they say, I'm more concerned about results, and right now, I like most of the results we are getting. Am I happy with everything Trump and the Republicans did? Of course not. But show me one administration that made you happy with every move they made.
I look at the entire picture, not just the part where I get to be myopic. No matter who is running the country, you can always find things to dislike about them.
So what's the secret in determining who a great leader will be? The answer is everybody hates him or her. That's it. Not just the opposition party because that's normal, but I mean most everybody in Washington. The status quo hates anybody that will rock the boat. They just want politics as usual day after day, month after month, year after year.
Now if you're going to say you are not a liberal or Democrat, then I would say you and Gator are like those high maintenance women. You can shower them with gifts, send flowers every month to their job, write poems for them or wash their car, but the one time you forget your anniversary, that's the only thing she remembers about you.
So who is doing a bad job?