Title 18, "Misprision of treason" filed in District Court

[DiveCon]

I've been told that the issue of the FEMA deception is well presented in the disclosure presented to a US district court judge. This came from retired attorneys and scientists, so perhaps the maxim is true, that the reverse of what agents say is often closer to the truth.

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LOL!

They were obviously just humoring you, you fucking psychotic imbecile.

Nothing in that miasma you cobbled together is "well presented."

I already told you: it's fucking incoherent.

It's like that time the crazy woman kept coming to the District Attorney's Office to report that people were beaming disturbing images into her mind. She was serious. Crazy as a loon: crazy as a ChristoFEARa, but serious.

My friend kept gently dismissing her rambling, incoherent, paranoid claims and sending her on her way. But she kept finding her way back. Finally, because my friend had actual work to do, one day he got inspired and told her that as much as he'd like to "help" her, his hands were tied. She demanded to know why. He said to her (straight faced): "Ma'am, you have reported that whoever is doing this to you is beaming the images into your mind. Clearly, this is a matter for the Federal Communications Commission."

She bought it. JUST like YOU, you poor hopelessly deluded crazy man, "bought it" when your retired lawyer acquaintance(s) and "scientist" friend(s) humored YOU!

if he isnt totally lying about it as well

 

[Christophera]

When the hell did I ever maintain that the public doesn't have a right to public records?

You've been failing to recognize the violations of law depriving the public of public records. That is very much the same as saying the public doesn't have a right to public records.

Of course the perps would not want you to recognize that.

No you complete retard. YOU have persistently failed to recognize that the ACLU making a fucking "claim" is not at all the same thing as anybody at any time, anywhere, ever having actually DONE whatever the ACLU is "claiming" was done.

Anybody can make a claim. Making the claim doesn't make anything a fact, you fucking imbecile scumbag Troofer.

You are a 9/11 Troofer; therefore you lie.

The NYCLU did not make a "claim". I suppose since it is obvious you hardly read my posts you certainly won't read data at a link.

What the NYCLU did was point out that the city and guiliani were in violation of the NYS FOIL laws.

The City also violated the Freedom of Information Law by transferring records to the custody of the Giuliani Center without first compiling a detailed list. Section 87(3)(c) of the Public Officer Law obligates an agency to maintain a “reasonably detailed list by subject matter” of all agency records, “whether or not [those records are] available under this article.” Such a list is necessary to prevent the inappropriate destruction of documents and to inform the public as to the content of the documentary collection. The list appended to the December 24th contract as Attachment A does not contain sufficiently detailed information to satisfy this requirement. And the documents appear, therefore, to have been transferred without complying with this requirement.​

 

[Liability]

You've been failing to recognize the violations of law depriving the public of public records. That is very much the same as saying the public doesn't have a right to public records.

Of course the perps would not want you to recognize that.

No you complete retard. YOU have persistently failed to recognize that the ACLU making a fucking "claim" is not at all the same thing as anybody at any time, anywhere, ever having actually DONE whatever the ACLU is "claiming" was done.

Anybody can make a claim. Making the claim doesn't make anything a fact, you fucking imbecile scumbag Troofer.

You are a 9/11 Troofer; therefore you lie.

The NYCLU did not make a "claim". I suppose since it is obvious you hardly read my posts you certainly won't read data at a link.

What the NYCLU did was point out that the city and guiliani were in violation of the NYS FOIL laws.

The City also violated the Freedom of Information Law by transferring records to the custody of the Giuliani Center without first compiling a detailed list. Section 87(3)(c) of the Public Officer Law obligates an agency to maintain a “reasonably detailed list by subject matter” of all agency records, “whether or not [those records are] available under this article.” Such a list is necessary to prevent the inappropriate destruction of documents and to inform the public as to the content of the documentary collection. The list appended to the December 24th contract as Attachment A does not contain sufficiently detailed information to satisfy this requirement. And the documents appear, therefore, to have been transferred without complying with this requirement.​

That IS a "claim," you retard.

And let us suppose that the Mayor's Administration HAD created the "list" in question, but that (later) a DISPUTE arises about WHETHER OR NOT the list is "sufficient." The ACLU or the NYCLU making the CLAIM that it is insufficient is just that: their fucking CLAIM.

Did I mention that you are retarded, you fucking scumbag lying Troofer retard? Because, really, that shouldn't go unmentioned.

And as for "hardly" reading your posts, you fucking incoherent retard, I have waded through them aplenty. More than your general incoherence and mentally unbalanced prose merits.

A claim is a -- CLAIM. You can deny that a claim is a claim, but the denial constitutes only additional evidence that you are totally out of your jug-eared pin-head.

Go get a job, scum bag. Support your own flesh and blood.

 

[Fizz]

the ACLU thing doesnt matter because you have absolutely no evidence linking these files to your concrete core hoax. where is your documentation that any of these files have anything to do with photos of a concrete core 30 years earlier?

you are just making shit up again....

 

[Christophera]

No you complete retard. YOU have persistently failed to recognize that the ACLU making a fucking "claim" is not at all the same thing as anybody at any time, anywhere, ever having actually DONE whatever the ACLU is "claiming" was done.

Anybody can make a claim. Making the claim doesn't make anything a fact, you fucking imbecile scumbag Troofer.

You are a 9/11 Troofer; therefore you lie.

The NYCLU did not make a "claim". I suppose since it is obvious you hardly read my posts you certainly won't read data at a link.

What the NYCLU did was point out that the city and guiliani were in violation of the NYS FOIL laws.

The City also violated the Freedom of Information Law by transferring records to the custody of the Giuliani Center without first compiling a detailed list. Section 87(3)(c) of the Public Officer Law obligates an agency to maintain a “reasonably detailed list by subject matter” of all agency records, “whether or not [those records are] available under this article.” Such a list is necessary to prevent the inappropriate destruction of documents and to inform the public as to the content of the documentary collection. The list appended to the December 24th contract as Attachment A does not contain sufficiently detailed information to satisfy this requirement. And the documents appear, therefore, to have been transferred without complying with this requirement.​

That IS a "claim,"

Prove that.

 

[DiveCon]

The NYCLU did not make a "claim". I suppose since it is obvious you hardly read my posts you certainly won't read data at a link.

What the NYCLU did was point out that the city and guiliani were in violation of the NYS FOIL laws.

The City also violated the Freedom of Information Law by transferring records to the custody of the Giuliani Center without first compiling a detailed list. Section 87(3)(c) of the Public Officer Law obligates an agency to maintain a “reasonably detailed list by subject matter” of all agency records, “whether or not [those records are] available under this article.” Such a list is necessary to prevent the inappropriate destruction of documents and to inform the public as to the content of the documentary collection. The list appended to the December 24th contract as Attachment A does not contain sufficiently detailed information to satisfy this requirement. And the documents appear, therefore, to have been transferred without complying with this requirement.​

That IS a "claim," you retard.

Prove that.

you want him to prove you are a retard?
all anyone has to do is read any post you make and its painfully obvious

 

[Christophera]

That IS a "claim,".

Prove that.

you want him to prove you are a retard?

No, that a claim was made. Your evasive teamwork exposes your intent.

 

[Christophera]

the ACLU thing doesnt matter

The NYCLU, not ACLU. It states,

Giuliani's "World Trade Center files" and "Millennium Project files," together with 6000 files of photographs, 1000 audiotapes, and 15,000 videotapes, are also reported to be a part of the records covered by the contract.

Those are the "World Trade Center" documents of the NC civic center documents and emergency regulations require that they have the plans, logically.

It matters a great deal because the buildings were supposed to have collapsed.

Of course if the 3,000 lives lost do not matter to you, as they don't to the infiltrating perps, that would explain why you do not think they matter.

 

[Fizz]

Giuliani's "World Trade Center files" and "Millennium Project files," together with 6000 files of photographs, 1000 audiotapes, and 15,000 videotapes, are also reported to be a part of the records covered by the contract.

Those are the "World Trade Center" documents of the NC civic center documents and emergency regulations require that they have the plans, logically.

no jackass. you IMAGINE they are the documents you state. where is your proof?

 

[DiveCon]

Prove that.

you want him to prove you are a retard?

No, that a claim was made. Your evasive teamwork exposes your intent.

now who is editing posts

 

[Liability]

The NYCLU did not make a "claim". I suppose since it is obvious you hardly read my posts you certainly won't read data at a link.

What the NYCLU did was point out that the city and guiliani were in violation of the NYS FOIL laws.

The City also violated the Freedom of Information Law by transferring records to the custody of the Giuliani Center without first compiling a detailed list. Section 87(3)(c) of the Public Officer Law obligates an agency to maintain a “reasonably detailed list by subject matter” of all agency records, “whether or not [those records are] available under this article.” Such a list is necessary to prevent the inappropriate destruction of documents and to inform the public as to the content of the documentary collection. The list appended to the December 24th contract as Attachment A does not contain sufficiently detailed information to satisfy this requirement. And the documents appear, therefore, to have been transferred without complying with this requirement.​

That IS a "claim,"

Prove that.

Prove that a claim is a claim?

The NYCLU made the CLAIM that the Mayoral Administration's LIST was "insufficient."

Prove that their claim ISN'T a claim, asshole.

WTF is wrong with you, you child-support evading pussy of a retard scumbag liar?

 

[Christophera]

That IS a "claim,"

Prove that.

Prove that a claim is a claim?

The NYCLU made the CLAIM that the Mayoral Administration's LIST was "insufficient."

Prove that their claim ISN'T a claim, asshole.

Search the page for the word "claim", then you will see that the NYCLU was simply pointing out that guiliani and the city were violating the FOIL laws. They proved it they did not claim it happened. Everyone knows it happened and no one is denying it.

NYCLU:

Apparently you have no evidence. All you can do is attempt a stupid, baseless argument. You don't give a rats ass for the US Constitution or the 3,000 that were killed and are trying to dismiss the information that can explain HOW they were killed.

The evidence assembled has been presented to a judge of the US district court.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html

 

[DiveCon]

Prove that.

Prove that a claim is a claim?

The NYCLU made the CLAIM that the Mayoral Administration's LIST was "insufficient."

Prove that their claim ISN'T a claim, asshole.

Search the page for the word "claim", then you will see that the NYCLU was simply pointing out that guiliani and the city were violating the FOIL laws. They proved it they did not claim it happened. Everyone knows it happened and no one is denying it.

NYCLU:

Apparently you have no evidence. All you can do is attempt a stupid, baseless argument. You don't give a rats ass for the US Constitution or the 3,000 that were killed and are trying to dismiss the information that can explain HOW they were killed.

The evidence assembled has been presented to a judge of the US district court.

Title 18, part I, chapter 115, §2382

which is a CLAIM, dipshit

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/claim

 

[Fizz]

Prove that.

Prove that a claim is a claim?

The NYCLU made the CLAIM that the Mayoral Administration's LIST was "insufficient."

Prove that their claim ISN'T a claim, asshole.

Search the page for the word "claim", then you will see that the NYCLU was simply pointing out that guiliani and the city were violating the FOIL laws. They proved it they did not claim it happened. Everyone knows it happened and no one is denying it.

NYCLU:

Apparently you have no evidence. All you can do is attempt a stupid, baseless argument. You don't give a rats ass for the US Constitution or the 3,000 that were killed and are trying to dismiss the information that can explain HOW they were killed.

The evidence assembled has been presented to a judge of the US district court.

Title 18, part I, chapter 115, §2382

doesnt matter anyway. all the documents were returned to the city after being microfilmed. the purpose of guiliani "taking" his own documents was to preserve them through hiring a non-profit firm to archive everything. meanwhile, the records from previous mayors sit in boxes uncategorized and unarchived.

 

[DiveCon]

Prove that a claim is a claim?

The NYCLU made the CLAIM that the Mayoral Administration's LIST was "insufficient."

Prove that their claim ISN'T a claim, asshole.

Search the page for the word "claim", then you will see that the NYCLU was simply pointing out that guiliani and the city were violating the FOIL laws. They proved it they did not claim it happened. Everyone knows it happened and no one is denying it.

NYCLU:

Apparently you have no evidence. All you can do is attempt a stupid, baseless argument. You don't give a rats ass for the US Constitution or the 3,000 that were killed and are trying to dismiss the information that can explain HOW they were killed.

The evidence assembled has been presented to a judge of the US district court.

Title 18, part I, chapter 115, §2382

doesnt matter anyway. all the documents were returned to the city after being microfilmed. the purpose of guiliani "taking" his own documents was to preserve them through hiring a non-profit firm to archive everything. meanwhile, the records from previous mayors sit in boxes uncategorized and unarchived.

ah, so thats why that story no longer resides on the NYCLU website
because it was RESOLVED

 

[Christophera]

Prove that a claim is a claim?

The NYCLU made the CLAIM that the Mayoral Administration's LIST was "insufficient."

Prove that their claim ISN'T a claim, asshole.

Search the page for the word "claim", then you will see that the NYCLU was simply pointing out that guiliani and the city were violating the FOIL laws. They proved it they did not claim it happened. Everyone knows it happened and no one is denying it.

NYCLU:

Apparently you have no evidence. All you can do is attempt a stupid, baseless argument. You don't give a rats ass for the US Constitution or the 3,000 that were killed and are trying to dismiss the information that can explain HOW they were killed.

The evidence assembled has been presented to a judge of the US district court.

Title 18, part I, chapter 115, §2382

doesnt matter anyway. all the documents were returned to the city after being microfilmed.

You cannot prove that. It is a lie.

 

[elvis]

I still love how Rudy Giuliani is being charged by a mental case in california with misprision of treason, which he allegedly committed in New York city.

 

[Fizz]

You cannot prove that. It is a lie.

actually, you are the one claiming they are being hidden so its up to you to prove that is still true.

but here's something to keep you busy:
Over time, the records were microfilmed and returned to the city archives. Giuliani aides have bristled at suggestions that documents were withheld, scrubbed of embarrassing details or destroyed.

But "there will always be questions," Freeman added.

The administration of Giuliani's successor, Michael Bloomberg, is confident the records were returned. City archivists echo that assessment but, when questioned, acknowledge the situation is less than definitive.
Giuliani's claim of transparency contradicted by record - USATODAY.com

 

[Christophera]

You cannot prove that. It is a lie.

actually, you are the one claiming they are being hidden so its up to you to prove that is still true.

but here's something to keep you busy:
Over time, the records were microfilmed and returned to the city archives. Giuliani aides have bristled at suggestions that documents were withheld, scrubbed of embarrassing details or destroyed.

But "there will always be questions," Freeman added.

The administration of Giuliani's successor, Michael Bloomberg, is confident the records were returned. City archivists echo that assessment but, when questioned, acknowledge the situation is less than definitive.
Giuliani's claim of transparency contradicted by record - USATODAY.com

Your link is pure crap. Nothing about the records mentioned in the NYCLU expose.

NYCLU:

NO ONE CAN GET THE TOWERS OFFICIAL PLANS and you can find no link to locate them.

We get altered, obsolete conceptual drawing from silverstein.

 

[DiveCon]

You cannot prove that. It is a lie.

actually, you are the one claiming they are being hidden so its up to you to prove that is still true.

but here's something to keep you busy:
Over time, the records were microfilmed and returned to the city archives. Giuliani aides have bristled at suggestions that documents were withheld, scrubbed of embarrassing details or destroyed.

But "there will always be questions," Freeman added.

The administration of Giuliani's successor, Michael Bloomberg, is confident the records were returned. City archivists echo that assessment but, when questioned, acknowledge the situation is less than definitive.
Giuliani's claim of transparency contradicted by record - USATODAY.com

Your link is pure crap. Nothing about the records mentioned in the NYCLU expose.

NYCLU:

NO ONE CAN GET THE TOWERS OFFICIAL PLANS and you can find no link to locate them.

We get altered, obsolete conceptual drawing from silverstein.

funny how your NYCLU claim no longer resides on the NYCLU webpage